These MASSIVE Tractor Bushings Are A NIGHTMARE!!
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Original bushings from 1977 were worn and needed replaced. First time for everything, let's get it done!
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I just lost my dad today... He was a farmer till the end but unfortunately he didn't win against cancer. I'm only 28 so it can happen to anyone cherish these moments.. you never know when if it might be your last!! I love watching you two work with your dad it brings me joy seeing him happy for what you two can accomplish!! Cant wait to see the seeding videos next spring.
I'm so sorry to hear that.I am praying for you.
I’m sorry for your loss
My heart goes out to you
Sorry for your loss.
My Dad passed 25 years ago. Leukemia. His birthday would have been tomorrow. I think of him all the time.
That band saw should have a tank under it. For coolant to keep the blade cool and lubed up so you run coolant on the cutting edge.
Definitely need coolant
👍👍👍
Taps and dies, no oil, blades with no coolant. Pretty rough cutting.
100% smoother, cooler, and way faster cutting those big pieces with coolant. I couldn't agree more. Running that thing dry limits the machine big time.
@@TheoSmith249agree 👍
I was a toolmaker in the automotive world. I was involved in many large machine rebuilds. I always turn a small od lead on bushings so they start straight. On that bushing you could've turned the first 1/2" of the od undersized a few thousands. It makes a big difference.
Its great seeing you guys make it work, most people today would have no idea how to do any of the work your doing.
Great score on those shop equipment, (“metal worker”, “bandsaw”) fabrication units…! You “just farmers”…, have done some awesome work on this project.
Do you guy enjoy farming or building to stuff you guys blow my mind on how you can do all the stuff you do. And on the videos never get mad at each other. God Bless all of you and your family.
I can't imagine how far they are already. We are seeing them like 2-3 weeks later
Heavy metal, big tractor parts and excellent teamwork! There is lots of banging, chatter and hard work on this episode. You boys sure know how to start the year out RIGHT!
Cool “Scotsman” !!! My dad was a dealer for them.
Wow. When you were hammering on that piece of the hitch, it sounded a LOT like the intro to AC/DC's "Hells Bells" to me! Y'all are really set up for rebuilding the Bud, amazing shop, and the new tools are a great addition!
23:49 Vanity plate "LEGARMS" -- nice and discrete Scott 🙂 Looking out for you on the road!
Big boys & their new toys!
I’ve always said, if we end up in Mad Max situation, you guys would have the best vehicles.
Common Sense is what you need, not pieces of paper. How many 'qualified' people have you come across that can't actually do it? Many. A wonderful display of real world experience, common sense and work ethic on display here.... 99% of the world could learn a lot
Ironically enough, I currently work at Scotchman and been a longtime viewer. If you didn't get an operators manual, you should be able to call in (with the serial #) and request one. This machine looks to be moderately modified from stock (extra parts, custom risers, etc..) and I have total faith that you guys can add whatever is necessary to get the most out of that machine. As stated by someone else, you definitely need a hold down for the bar shear. Even thinner material can pitch up and jam or cut crooked, not to mention hurt an operator.
Something to keep in mind for parts replacements: while we should be able to sell all of the consumables (punches, dies, blades, possibly extra tooling), if you require bigger replacement components, those items can get spendy coming from the factory. Most of the inventory on a discontinued model (from '03?, last 3 or 4 digits in serial # will give the mfg. date) has been used up at this point, and tearing down our current setups to make older parts can be very time/labor intensive. Electrical/hydraulic is a mixed bag, depending on vendor availability. My advice if you run into those bigger items would be either to look for a parts machine, or fab replacement parts yourself.
Thank you for the insights. Keep it in mind
Y’all will love that Scotsman. It’ll make your life so much easier. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
They got on vacation and buy a bunch of sick tools that’s awesome af can’t wait to see you guys use them and funny at the same time the welker boys go on a vacation and buy awsome tools lol
The French called, said they were looking for the bronze missing from their olympic medals.😂
I'm no machinist but, if your boring bar is too long, or too far from the lathe turret, you will get chatter. Not much you can do other than, shorten the bar, slow the speed down or, go to a larger bar.
You guys are getting closer. Great video, cheers :)
Leg Arms has got the big power but Bob and Nick sure slammed hard when they needed to! Keep the faith guys!
Dad should be very proud to work with his sons every day
Oh man, about time for you to get these sweet shop machines! With the amount of fab work you guys constantly do these will make life easier - especially the hydraulic bandsaw and the ironworker. 😎🤘
I know i keep repeating myself but you guys are amazing. Great job, this build is unreal.
WOW talk about Christmas gifts for the shop! I’m super excited to see what you make with them.
I’m sorry the broken bushing didn’t work…but it’s pretty. That’s something.
Awesome job lads and it will work for another 50 years. Thank you, take care and God bless,
Greetings from Billings. Should have used anti seize on the bushings and threads. You do amazing work
Looks like Amco cast bronze. Super tough and I use it regularly on my repair jobs in my machine shop.😊
Good machine purchases guys. The work you "farmers" can do is impressive.
Great content and progress guys! 👍🏼
Now let’s all take a moment to appreciate the responsibility that ONE pin has on the front end of that tow bar… 🤔🤞😂
These videos is what i love and can’t get enough of all problem solving and ideas explained clearly missed these big jobs over the last few years keep up the good work
"These . . . *is* . . . ?"
@ god u must be miserable if that’s all you can do in your spare time lol
Look at the ball and socket, on a D8 blade push arm. For the drawbar pivot, front end.
Was thinking the same thing but pulling on the socket and constant slop up and down from weight of a massive loaded grain cart might shear or wear the socket out fast what about pinning front way it always has been maybe bigger pin and bushing so it's greaseable but building a tube or socket at the rear support so it's got solid in front half and has no side to side or up and down but can be greased and pivot independently inside rear
good idea, however the direction of force is wrong: 'dozer push arms are working under compression, the draw bar is under tension, the cap on a push arm is functionally not under any load on a bulldozer whereas if you were to pull on it either the cap would fail or it would be constantly stretching bolts.
Would a sleeve and collar allow enough motion? There is a healthy chunk of 5" unused bronze bushing available.
I love watching people machine brass for the first time! The brass will pull the drill bit out of the chuck, until the cutting edges are shaped for sheet metal. Bronze is a little different, but still funny in how it changes shape with temps. The first step is to check the shaft for roundness! The Machinery's Handbook is the best source for tolerances. Oil-impregnated bronze can be fun to work with, if you have time to play.
My dad worked in a welding fab shop for over 30 years. On 2 different occasions, he got fingers caught between the table and steel he was cutting with an Iron Worker. It split the tops of his fingers open. (Picture like squeezing a grape between your fingers) He managed to keep all his digits.
I farmed North of Billings for a lot of years. I also had a Iron Worker on the farm Fabrication shop. I have a 314, the predecessor to your 314. Mine has the punch on the inside instead of the end. I made a copy of mine with the punch on the outside for a friend. I sold the farm in the Mid 1980's and went back to Grad school. Great videos. Great videos. I look forward to your videos and to Fast AG.
"We're not engineers" works for me. Retired carpenter says "get a bigger hammer!" Nice work gents!
That looks like a lot of work! And that's just the basic tractor! Cab, hydraulics, electrical, engine running, trans synching.... Crazy amount to do yet!!
And, that PTO, going thru the center pivot.
@@rearspeaker6364 ...and the list goes on...! :)
Plenty of people have been caught without everything set up for a frozen bush install. The transfer of heat from one part to an adjacent part is pretty quick not allowing you much time to get it done. Good work.
I enjoy watching your videos and how you improvise to achieve what is needed. Now that speed square is great for rough carpentry. But good enough for marking steel for cutting off length. After seeing the bronze tubing for new bushings. I do hope this material is bearing grade. In watching the boring on the lathe you mention chatter. Some things to keep in mind when boring material like bronze. A stout boring bar is one. Length is important . The longer the bore more deflection of the bar. In short pushing down from center line of the peace. Suggest setting tool slightly above center line. You found slower speed helps in the chatter. You will have to use trial and error for speed rate. All depends on what grade of bronze. Now a couple new toys for the shop. Band saw great addition for your shop. By now you may know to check square of blade to the stationary jaw before loading peace for cutting. Now place that peace in clamp and bring blade down close to part and set the blade guides. Making sure guides clear the clamp jaws.This helps keep the blade running true. Coolant a big plus on this type of saw. Keeps blade cool during cutting and prolongs blade life. Now here is some advice invest in a good quality micrometer. Inside ones also. Veneer calipers are handy also.
You can tell that dad is proud to be working with his boys
chatter is caused by vibration. the cutter bar is extended too far. reduce its length to just the length of the bar and that should reduce the chatter. then you can play around with the speeds and feeds. Hope this helps, hello from Ireland
Cutting rounds with bandsaw I generally tack two together or clamp a vise grip on some where so the tube won"t spin. Once a few teeth are gone blade is toast. Looking forward to seeing the Bud moving on its own!
Good work guys!! Awesome watching you build this machine. God Bless all of you and your family.
I just love this channel!! Been watching for several years! My Christmas wish… longer videos! I wonder who is stronger… I must say, take it easy on those backs! You only have one. I used to be just like you all, but now, I am paying the price… Thank you for sharing your lives with us!
Yep! Take care of the backs, at 76 years old I am now paying for all of the times that I did not take care of my back. I enjoy all of the videos. Take care and work safe. I see you doing some things you should not be doing but I cannot hollor loud enough to stop you.
That Ironworker is a great tool. You will find alot of things to use it on.
The Welker Farms Re-Bud shop...doing it's best work! Great work guys!!
This tractor project is like a gift that keeps on giving. Love how hard you Men atewotking to take something on the brink of scrapped, to making a useful and viable farm equipment investment. Keep up the great work !!! 💪💯
You guys deserve all the love in the world for all this content! Thanks for taking all of us along the ride!
Any engineer should take pride in listening to experienced end users when designing anything. Many end users know more about what is needed than an engineer that chooses to do designing totally from his desk.
Probably to late to consider but maybe a dozer trunnion ball would work for your hitch attachment. It is like that spherical bushing .
You could have put a rod or even a big taper shank drill bit in your tailstock to help prevent your part dropping when cutting it off, but I am sure you know that.
I am really enjoying this series, keep up the good work!
I love new tools. That shear on the iron worker should have a bar that is threaded down to hold the workpiece down to the table while the shear cuts it.
@@tvlarsen76 they have been amazing! And yes we found the bar that holds the work piece down. It makes a huge difference.
Love what you guys are doing I know how much equipment cost glad you have the means to do all this what a task you took on
I think we have a new leg arms. What a great bunch of skilled workers ❤god bless
For inexpensive cold get an industrial CO2 extinguisher for homemade Dry Ice. The extinguisher cylinders are great for welding gas, get replacement valves installed when you get the used cylinders Hydro tested, it's a regular thing. 20:02
Scott wrap some rubber around the outside of the bushings and that will help keep the harmonics down on the bronze. It also helps on other metals.
Thanks for another fantastic video guys. You folks are absolutely amazing !!!!!!!!!!
The work and engineering you all are putting into this project is to be commendable!!!!!!!!
Some of the best I have ever seen on a home based project. Bob and Scott and Nick my compliments to each of you for your dedication to this tractor project !!!!!!!!!
Congratulations on your new equipment for the shop. Glad you happened onto and was able to purchase them. Nice pieces of shop equipment.
Your project is coming along nicely. Little by little you are getting the pieces coming together. Soon you’ll have this project ready. Congratulations!!!!!!!!
With my blessings to ALL of you.
The Iowa farm boy. Steve.
I am really anxious to see this complete & farming! I think this is the best build on the internet!
Scott, The source of your chatter is probably the boring bar itself. It might help to have a really sharp tool. If you start developing chatter, you can hone the edge and sharpen it up. That doesn't necessarily work so well for steel, but for softer materials you definitely want a sharp cutting tool. High-Speed steel is really good for that. So if you're trying to use carbide I would try switching to a high-speed steel cutter that you can sharpen and hone a very sharp edge. Sometimes if you have space you can clamp on a set of vice grips or something onto the end of that boring bar and it will change the resonant frequency of it. Sometimes trying to sharpen a smaller edge so that you're only cutting a small area you can overcome those forces. Or you can change your speed. Good to see you guys finally got an iron worker now you just need a mag drill to go with it and most of your days of having to drill holes the hard way are gone.
Can't wait to see the new cab. Crushed velvet never goes out of style!
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Your camera shots, this episode is remarkable. Lots of thought. Well done, fellows.
That oold bud must have been rode hard and put up wet, good job on the progress.
See, all this ciphering is why I say this machine is a Big Bud in name only. You guys are building your own machine using a Bug Bud frame. Makes it your own machine. It absolutely is a one off and i sincerely the three of you guys figure out a way to brand it as the one of it is, and who put it together. Definitely something y'all ought to be extremely proud of Nick. Been a while since ive been hangin on every video of a build, thank you for sharing... Cant hardly wait for the next one.
Congrats on the tools Gents. Im still jealous lol
I am so jealous of your scores! The time and labor savings is huge not to mention the financial costs will be greatly reduced. Less blades, bits and the tools that take said blades and bits! I wish they were in my shop!!!
/less\ *fewer* /
@manifold1476 I stand corrected!
TEAMWORK...patient teamwork...Those bushings tested family relationships! Grand Video!
Youll love that ironworker it cuts down fab time a ton. Had one at a shop i worked at
Get a coolant-lubricant pump and reservoir on the new saw! Nice Ironworker!
Great to see progress with the project - Question: Oil on the steel saw to protect the blade? - Cheers 👍
next time on the bushing work put them in the chest freezer for a day , rosebud the outer section then grab the bushing from the freezer and they pop in with ez, did this on large CAT pins all the time
They had the bussing out in the freezing snow !!! They were cold !!!! DUUUUHH!!!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 Bushing. DUUUUUHHH!!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 chest freezer set a -10 F or better will insure its shrunk. we did this at a CAT dealer as techs...... outside in the snow is not the right way.
The Bushing game I just played that today on a 7500 gallon INJECTOR TANK we snapped the rear SPINDLE right off SLEDGE HAMMER AND PORTAPOWER got it out! Now just got to order a new one and play the install game !
Someday I would like to see a video of a SHOP TOUR that goes in to all those HIDE-E-HOLES we see in the background, IE steps into the wall, doors that never open on video etc. I think it would be fun and MAYBE find Nick some more places to clean in the shop LOL
Nice score. Those Iron workers are awesome!
I've never seen one before. I could use the hell out of one of those.
Beat it to fit, paint it to match Big Bud!!! Keep up the good work!🍻
If that pin comes out you could of had it spray welded and turned to spec, I’m surprised the cylinder shop you mentioned doesn’t do it
They might not offer that service, or maybe it was overlooked. Worth checking again!
I'd bet the engineers at the Havre Bud plant are watching!
A much larger boring bar will help. Also machining bronze you might want to look into the cutting insert you are using.
You should have put those bushings in your deep freezer over night. I used to do that with the cylinder sleeves when I rebuilt engines that had dry sleeves. They just fell right in the next morning.
Could have maybe created a recess or channel on the sleeve and welded in that section and the channel would also have reduced friction when running the bushings over the sleeve. Great work though and super to see the progress and detail going into the build 👍
Nice job guys! Definitely looks like quite the workout! Coming along nicely!!
You might try a rubber bungie around the outside of the bushing when cutting it on the lathe, It might help the chatter problem.
Wrap long tubular work when performing inside bore. Maintains Round, prevents frequency/chatter. Wear ear plugs. I no longer can listen to grand kids due to noise I though was safe
Best tool you can buy is a good air hammer and I stand by that
Drill some shallow holes on the outside diameter of that ring nut, the make a nice large spanner wrench to tighten it up.
That's some serious fabrication. Rock on!
Great job guys, hard graft. Workshops looking great!
Leg Arms.....feed faster to reduce chatter! plus alittle slower spindle speed. Harmonic vibrations can be hard to deal with in certain situations on a lathe. Remember one thing when all else fails on a lathe when harmonics become an issue. Feed it faster! Great job guys! Love what you are doing!
You might save your saw blades if you add cutting fluid to your saw, seems a little dry!
was thinking that too but unless it is designed for wet operation then the lube is gonna go everywhere... If though it already has the tank and recirculation system for it but it just is not connected up would make good sense.
@@nzcyclone The pan around it is to catch the coolant, it almost certainly has, or had a coolant system at one point.
I have a feeling they might know a guy or two to build a tank/pan for cutting fluid!🤣🤔
@@--_DJ_-- I am pretty sure it can too, but, didn't want to assume as cannot see the rest of it. It may not even have a pump fitted still. Although, not difficult to add one.
@@gregwaltman6539 You can see the catch pan on the vid
Welker TEAM effort !!
Good job guys !!
Try setting your cutting corner on the boring bar to 0.005"-0.008" above center line. So that when your tool engages into the cut it is pulled down to centerline or close to. Another thing to try is if you have the room try clamping a pair of vise grips on the end of your boring bar, that has worked for me before.
100 percent correct with the tool height over centre. You don’t want the bottom on the insert rubbing in the curve on the inside diameter. Large cuts make it flex downward, so naturally you need more height. I often use the wooden handle of my file pressed against the boring bar to stop chatter.
Usually above centerline is bad, rotating the boring bar itself does a better trick to avoid chatter, however this can be an annoyance to do if you have a flat on the bar.
Also the negative rake angle can screw with you also.
I was going to suggest less bar stick out myself, tightening up the length of the bar protruding, clearance is clearance.
As long as you can get back far enough to finish your operation even if the clearance is less than .010" and it still clears you're golden.
Both of you are spot on though with something to absorb the vibration.
To me it also looks like the RPM is a tad high for that diameter bronze.
Either way, you did it well welkers, I wish I could be apart of something that great, but I'm just a tool maker stuck in a shop. Absolutely excited and ready to see this beautiful price of equipment get put into use! Everyone upgrades cars or trucks, but you guys take the BIG (bud) cake!
Great work chaps, not long now to join up🇬🇧
Howdy do to all the welker family,,greetings from Ireland,,
The chatter when using the boring bar on the inside of the bronze bushing was probably from too much stick out - a steady rest would have been beneficial
I'll say it again. You guys sure know how to get it done. Love this type of Video. Cheers from Wisconsin
Nice finds!! Those machines are going to be handy. Oh....You left us hanging on this one. Was hoping to see it go back together.
Tony (Fast AG) was at the Welker farm a few weeks ago, gave them some tips I think, he has a 50 ton Spartan IW50S ironworker, he did a nice video on that and his press brake, video on his channel is [ What a tool ! ]. 😉😊
You need to put grease grooves in bushings, criss-cross, groove on lathe, finish with air tool
Looking good can't wait to see it running and moving on it own
We have that same Wilton band saw at my shop that thing is a beast! Those ironworkers amazing! We have a 70 ton you can cut 4”x1” angle no problem
Looks like you guys had the solution all along, but its great to see a good piece of bearing bronze being used there!
Re the draw bar…a combination of both of your solutions seems the best. Drop the bracket as you intended, build a new draw bar with spherical bearings at both ends. It will allow 2x the rotation with no huge design changes!
Another great and inspirational video, I'm always impressed with your inginuity and can do approach to all the projects you take on together. Thanks for sharing.
A commonsense farmer is an engineer!
The cutting angle for bronze is -.01. Bronze tends to chatter the cutter as you herd when turning the inside. Shavings should be the size of the face of the cutting. Used to make tooling.to.make the connecter on gas hose used on service stations.