The response I received from Fuji was, "It appears with Normal 4K, line skipping is used making the footage vulnerable to noise, and thus the shadow end can be prone to clipping." 🤔🤷♂ Thanks again for watching! 🤓🙏 Don't forget to check out Nebula: go.nebula.tv/geraldundone
New X-H2 owner here, been using for around 10 days. Amazing camera, but I haven't been able to look at the files on a large screen (only on my Macbook). That answer seems to indicate that Fuji has no plans of reverting that shadow crushing. They might be doing that to hide the deep black noise on those shots, but that's a shame. I'm excited to see what the video looks like on real world usage. Thanks for the video!
It does seem odd given it’s not there in the 6K. I’m trying to imagine the maths behind the line skipping but failing miserably. Maybe the skipping gave a pattern to the noise that was distracting? It seems a bit of a brutal fix if it is. I got my X-H2 today. I don’t have an S to compare but I still have my X-T4 as a baseline. If I start right away I might be able to test every resolution/codec/bit rate/picture profile combination before the X-H3 arrives 🙄
Thanks! Your videos are unmatched. You've been so much help over the years. The engineers at Fuji, Sony, Canon etc. must be terrified of you. Not to say you aren't fair but talk about exhaustive breakdowns. Kudos Gerald.
Nearing 15 stops of dynamic range on that Xyla 21 -test is very impressive. I wonder how much you can push or pull exposure in post or how much would enabling the interframe NR help.
As a hybrid shooter who does a lot pictures the 40mp version looks very good to me, especially as it is cheaper. I usually dont need more than 4k60 and having 8k is great for cropping in video or taking out fotos from the video
Could there be a standardized test for rolling shutter? Place the cam on an electrically turned head for controlled and standardized movement. Then film a section of vertical lines on a chart and compare the deviation from perfectly vertical. Yes, certain things more than mentioned need also to be standardized...
I did the dynamic range test vs the XH2S here on my channel, everyone doubted me lol. I ended up returning the XH2 because of the quality loss in 60FPS.
Honestly I really don’t think it’s a quality loss just that it as more contrast. I will suggest in 4K60p in the XH2 you shoot with flog1 instead of flog2. Either way I’m enjoying both cameras and been using them for my client jobs.
@@cammackey Well maybe lol. I use both cameras and so I have been able to know my workarounds. Also there is no perfect camera even the 10k cameras have their many issues.
@@AsuquoTravelsProductions once again, you’d be great at a marketing firm haha. Granted we’re not talking about work arounds. We’re just comparing two cameras and the fact is one is better for video than the other. They’re both great. Don’t know why people gotta try to flip it or explain it. We can be honest, for these companies are making tools for our crafts. We are their priority, not the other way around.
I seen your video and "seeing" is believing. You have shown proof that X-H2 was noisier than X-H2s while folks acting like they are blind to see the truth for this obsession of high megapixels.
My experience is that even if flog2 is noisier and in 60p uses 12 bit instead of 14, for very demanding colours/lighting scenarios flog2 can handle those very well where hlg and flog1 will start losing detail and clip/shift colours, When I was out testing i shot flog2 of a black/gray crow sitting on a white birch branch lit by the sun and camera exposed for the crow and still being super overexposed i was able to recover detail in the branch it was sitting. absolutely amazed. Only exception is in very low light there is a lot of magenta chroma noise in flog2 but it disappears completely in flog1, noticed this while trying to record the auroras. Thanks for the amazing insight of both cameras!
XH2S is videocentic, XH2 is photocentric. What ever you do more is alright to get, but also keep in mind that the XH2S sensor is stacked, so even on stills its gonna be amazing, and 26mp isnt bad for photos, you dont really need 40.
I just got the X-H2S because it was reduced on Amazon by £600, so basically the same price as the X-H2. Since I want it primarily for video, it was a great purchase!
I think I forgot to ask last time about the following: Everyone analyses the rolling shutter effect in 4K, 6.2K or 8K, but non-oversampled 1080p is seldom looked at. Is non-oversampled 1080p rolling shutter any different (better) than 4K on the X-H2? Because I wouldn't mind using 1080p for home videos, for instance. I'm loving the high resolution possibilities of the X-H2 both for photo and video, especially the pixel-shift mode. It'd be a shame to lose them by choosing the X-H2s...
The Canon R5 in Gerald's R5 and R6 review exhibited very similar behaviour as the Fuji X-h2 where the total dynamic range was equal to the low number. The non-HQ mode on the X-H2 still appears to have better dynamic range than the Canons based on the test patterns in your reviews.
cammackey has a comparative between R5C against the XH2S and the Fuji perfomed waaaaay better! i dont know about the numbers of DR on the Canon, but judging by this video... the fuji has the advantage by a large margin
I don’t know if anyone has asked this or not but what about filming with these two cameras together? I have the h2s and am picking up the h2 for resolution in stills. I also shoot video scenes and need 2 cams for that. I currently use Sonys for work but my personal business I’m using Fuji. It’s a little complicated to explain but I have different brands for different things.
As always, a fantastic review. This is a great service you perform in your exhaustive analysis of these cameras. Thank you so much. I'll have to candidly say I Love the X-H2s, but really wish the AF were better. While AF is convenient in certain instances, mostly it makes for lazy filmmakers. You are (at least among the few who mention this from time to time), Specifically, Fuji provides a fantastic consolation by giving users something that is much better: the best peaking capability of any camera I know of, hands down. Rokinon X mount lenses are fantastic, and provide butter-like focus pulls, that not only look gorgeous, but are also wonderfully accurate, detailed, easy to see and control. Using it makes for a much more creative and inventive shooting experience than trying to treat the camera like some sort of glorified point and shoot. GAAAHHH. Enough with that.
Nice review between the X-H2 vs X-H2S. I would go for the X-H2 myself for the 8K capability since I don't see any other cameras under $2K that can do 8K! The battle for APSC sensor cameras seems to be heating up now that the Fujifilm X-H2/S, Sony FX30 and Canon EOS R7 are out. It would be great to have a comparison of all cameras in the sub $2K category to see which one would produce the best video quality for budget filmmakers.
8K is not needed and if you want 8k, you must be doing movies and if thats the case, you have no need to purchase a Fuji camera. You should look into cinema cameras. I'm just saying, people only really need 4k, maybe 6k but its not needed especially for the work people do.
I haven't used the XH-2 but, I rented the XH2-S and it was fantastic. I won't lie, after using the 4k120p, I would settle for that over anything higher resolution. It was so nice if you can practice with the autofocus system. I used it with the new 150-600mm lens and I was filming a squirrel from inside my hotel room way out on a tree and I could count the hairs on his ears.
@@sydneynomura281 Cropping an 8K video to a 4K video with the desired focal length and viewpoint has a lot of advantages you can't get with a 4/5/6K only camera. Yes, a dedicated cinema is best but not for a budget filmmaker/hybrid shooter. The BMPCC 6K G2 is tha budget cinema camera but I wouldn't take photos with it.
@@garrett1144 No doubt that the XH-2S is better for slow motion video capture than XH-2 if that important to you. What's more important to me is capturing high resolution photos and videos as a hybrid shooter that wants every ounce of detail from an affordable sub-$2K camera.
@@MrRlaureano I keep battling the decision between the 2. I have a fuji XT-2 i've been looking to upgrade for a year now and I keep wanting to jump to Sony or Canon but I have 5 lenses that I love with fuji and want to get the new 56mm 1.2. I do tend to shoot in poor light conditions sometimes so I think which ever is better for that would be best for me. I wanted full frame for that reason but I don't want to switch and sell everything. The only thing I didn't like were the button setups and the removal of the ability to press in the scrolling dials front and back. I still don't get that, it was so nice on the XT series.
I see the xh2s is a superior video camera which is what it is marketed as. I will be buying the xh2s instead of the xh2. The $500 difference is worth it to get the stacked sensor. I think the xtrans 5 processor has a lot left in it and I think fuji will definitely kizen this bad boy to be a MONSTER. Really hoping for 1080p 480fps 😊😊😊😊
I'm wondering about the crushed blacks phenomenon and how that compares to say the X-T3 or the X-T4. When considering an upgrade from say an X-T3 to an X-H2, will I end up getting worse 4k60 in terms of dynamic range?
Thank you for the insightful review. I'd say if budget was a major constraint in a Fuji only, small independent studio, (like mine where it's just 3 people) then the XH2 would be a great second camera when the need arises. We can keep it on the tripod for all locked off shots while the XH2S, (which we currently have) would be amazing on a gimbal/handheld. Together, they'd be a great Fuji only setup and the savings can go towards cheaper and lighter Sigma lenses versus the very good but expensive new 1.4s from Fuji. Hopefully the recording to SSD, waveforms and false color from the 100ii will come to these two soon. Now, Fuji just needs to get their AF firmware issues sorted(a bit of a lost cause though considering their inconsistent results across lenses) and IBIS, well it seems like they just have bad hardware that isn't yet up to the challenge of their version of compact and dense bodies.
A lot of other cameras downsample from 6K though. The other two cameras in your list can actually shoot 6K. GH6 would be a more suitable inclusion than FX30 which can’t shoot 6K.
Thought I was smart with my research, picked up a X-H2 and was disappointed to learn that it doesn't have an Open Gate feature. If I love this camera I'm for sure going to upgrade to the S.
Nice and helpful video as usual. I am leaning towards the XH2, as i also will us of for photography. But I am also wanting to use it for some run and gun, some tripod work, and walking heads, voiceover stuff. Which would you recommend? I have budget for both. But with the Xh2 it comes down to an extra lens maybe. Or more CF cards.
Very detailed comparisons 😱 There are options that I let on without knowing what it is such as the interframe noise reduction. It is weird that the x-h2 crops in 4k60. this is pretty basic now. The fact to be able to zoom in also in video is very handy. it saves post work Pitty that the x-h2 doesn't offer open gat mode (even though I also still not get 100% what it means) The 4k hq from the h2 is better than the 4k from the xh2 I guess then. The tricky thing would be to coordinate all that when shooting with both of them for a given video - Isn't Prores Hq the best of the best that you can get out of those cameras ? (and prores hq flog 2 the very best?) - Does the 4k of the x-h2s have a similar 'bad' dynamic range than the non hq 4k from the x-h2? (from What I understood, the 4k of the xh2s is better than the non hq of xh2. ) - What happens if you have a footage with some scenes in flog, some in flog2 and some in eterna?
Just once it'd be nice if 1080 was mentioned in any of the xh2, xh2s, xt5 videos anywhere on RUclips lol the pursuit of the highest 'k' has gotten out of control imho. In the real world, does anyone care about 8k yet? Most of us hardly even care about 4k haha. But either way, as usual, great video man! Thanks for your work!
Saying the new Fujifilm XH2 series' AF poor is an understatement. I have tried the XH2S in field shooting using AF in several trial situations, talking head, run and gun walking subject tracking, transitioning from subject to subject both on the same focusing plane and near and far etc. Unlike Panasonic AF, it's was OK when in focus but utterly unreliable when I had to switch focus points or if the subject moved. My old Canon 70D DSLR autofocuses miles better than that in every respect. You also have to be careful when you plan to rely solely on manual focus using most Fuji lenses. The focus by wire mechanism is not smooth and sometimes jumpy making smooth transitioning next to impossible. IMO unless you use one of Fujinon's excellent cine lenes or 3rd party true manual lenses, using one of these Fujifilm cameras for critical work would be at best annoying and at worst wreck your shoots.
The X-H2 is $2700 USED in Japan and all cameras made within the last few years are so expensive that I can't even think of buying older ones. I hope that this camera is still useful in 4 years when the price comes down to the point where I can actually afford it.
The XH2S is a great camera with those 14+ stops of dynamic range score by using davinci resolve noise reduction. But the noise quality and appearace should be taken with a grain of salt. Some would like its fine, sharp, and gritty looking noise but some would probably also prefer blocky but softer noise like what other camera brands produce. It all boils down to your style and its features are outstanding for a 26mp camera.
Dude I love Nebula and CS!! Pretty cool to see they are helping out the Channel with the new sponsorship! Congrats man! (I might have to cancel my old subscription and sign up with your link 😉)
Hi Gerald. Just an observation and a request. Please could you use the black solid cursor rather than the white solid when highlighting data on predominantly white backgrounds. I might be alone, but I find I'm visually scanning the graph to find the data you are talking about, only for you. to have moved on to another point by the time I find the cursor. I use your videos as learning tools as well as very useful reviews. Thanks in anticipation.
Thank you for making this video! As an early owner of Fujifilm X-H2s, even tho it is $500 more than X-H2, X-H2 owners still need to spend extra hundreds of dollars if they want a CF Express B card, which is costly. Fujifilm sent us FREE CF Express B (value $424), almost $500! That's a win-win situation. Unfortunately, that deal ends.
A 200dollar angelbird CFexpress B AV PRO SE is enough, same price as a good v90 card so no it isn't that much! And hight capacity v90 cards cost as well extra hundreds dollars 512gb V90 625 euros ( I 'm french) so the all cards are not cheap, but actually the cfexpress B are the most for the price in term of performances
Hm... the X-T5 will got that 40 MP sensor, so that line skipping 4K/60p maybe a little worse than the oldie-goldie X-T3 (and X-T4) oversampled 4K/60p? 🙈😁
Well you know what they say ... If it ain't broke don't fix it! I'm incredibly happy with my X-T4, and I plan on keeping that until I'm damn well ready to upgrade and it's actually worth it! For now... it's not.
i really like this video, i'm impressed about the details. but as a full fuji hybrid shooter: if my client pay me as much as your information are important, i go RED. and so long, i take the camera, who i feel convenient with. but: get my like sub and all my love, for your work!
Does the AF perform the same during digital zoom as during normal use? Face and eye detection still work? Or is it like Sony clear image zoom where AF reverts to dumb mode?
hello, I want to build a new set and I have been following your videos for a long time. That's why I need your opinion)) I usually take photos, but the photos I take are printed on 2x1 banners, albeit a little. But I also shoot video. I'm torn between sony a7iv and fujiiflm xh2. Do you think it would be enough for someone like Fuji Beniö? Or what would you recommend?
So... question about fuji camera settings. I own an x-t3. In regards to sharpness and noise reduction video settings. Is -4 off? Or is 0 off? Is 0 sharpening a bit or is it off and is -4 actually softening the image? This could be a bit less confusing and the manual offers no clarification. Thanks
The best camera takes a photo ,video that doesn't need after ,post alterations,editing ...I'm the one that likes straight out of a camera ...real thing ... edited it's a lie it's not enymore the reality....
I just wonder how it achieved a 14+ stop dynamic range. Does it have an extereme under the hood noise reduction even when the in camera noise reduction is turned off? It would be interesting to see the detail preservation performance in normal/brighter lighting and also with human subjects. If it still preserves the details in brighter lighting/human subjects while in 14+ stops dynamic range; now that would be impressive but currently I am still not sure if thats the case because I havent found enough tests of those specific scenarios.
I think it’s because of the noise pattern. Fuji advertised their new gen sensors as having the closest to film behaviour, noting that their noise patterns are very close to film. This leads me to believe that it’s the noise pattern+the resolution of the sensor that allows for such tremendous results
Excellent comparison as always! Can either camera crop 2x from 4K to 1080p in the same way the X-H2 can crop 2x from 8K to 4K? Since I'm thinking of getting a camera that can shoot motorsports adequately (lots of panning), either I get the X-H2s or I get the X-H2 but restrict to 1080p due to the excessive rolling shutter at 4K.
I will suggest you get the XH2S since you be doing more run and gun in fast moving objects with panning. Either way you can’t go wrong with either because Fujifilm really did good with both cameras.
While I can't definitively answer your primary question, ( I doubt if they can do that. If Gerald hasn't mentioned about them, I'm sure Gordon Laing would have..you can consider watching his reviews if you haven't). Going by my past experience with motorsports (hobbyist and some years ago) and going by the XH2S performance reviews (I have one but haven't used it for motorsport yet) I'd strongly recommend the XH2S. Not sure about your time & storage constraints during post, but my advice would be to shoot in 4k and reframe in post whenever possible. As of this comment, not sure about either of them doing high res to 1080 in camera zoom. Maybe they could introduce that in firmware later, but the thing is most people prefer shooting in 4k and then exporting to 1080 if needed so I'm not sure if they might add this feature. Wish you the best and I'm sure you will enjoy the cameras, whichever one you pick. May you get more work coming your way. God bless.
X-H2S question: I mostly shoot 4K24 and 4K60 in ProRes 422 externally recording to Ninja V+ via HDMI. I don’t understand the difference in shooting ProRes 422 with no codec and shooting ProRes 422 with ProRes codec. What should I be doing? Will shooting ProRes with ProRes codec make the clips more efficient in the editing process? Does it have any drawbacks?
I need to change my second camera(xt3) to a new one. Will I lose too much for filming if I will choose t he X-H2 not the 2s? My another camera is xt4 and I want to have 40mpx sometime for photos... Please help to decide😮
I have a GH5 and I wonder if I should go for Fujifilm X-H2 or X-H2S or X-S20. The X-S20 has a X-Trans CMOS 4 instead of 5 however . I hope to get a fast responsive and reliable camera for autofocus and stabilization.
Can you pleeease review some high end cameras? I'd love that video. Arri Mini vs RED V Raptor vs Sony Venice 2 vs Canon C700. Then compare it to something like the fx6 or c70 to show what you're getting for all that extra money.
![[사진강좌] 대중을 뛰어넘는 사진, 어떻게 가능할까?](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KNgA_an9qGk/mqdefault.jpg)
The response I received from Fuji was, "It appears with Normal 4K, line skipping is used making the footage vulnerable to noise, and thus the shadow end can be prone to clipping." 🤔🤷♂
Thanks again for watching! 🤓🙏 Don't forget to check out Nebula: go.nebula.tv/geraldundone
Hey Gerald, you are so good on camera, it's really impressive. Thanks for all the work.
Gerald can you say if the 240fps is better on the xh2s than on the xt4? Casey was saying the 240fps is worse….
New X-H2 owner here, been using for around 10 days. Amazing camera, but I haven't been able to look at the files on a large screen (only on my Macbook).
That answer seems to indicate that Fuji has no plans of reverting that shadow crushing. They might be doing that to hide the deep black noise on those shots, but that's a shame.
I'm excited to see what the video looks like on real world usage.
Thanks for the video!
It does seem odd given it’s not there in the 6K. I’m trying to imagine the maths behind the line skipping but failing miserably. Maybe the skipping gave a pattern to the noise that was distracting? It seems a bit of a brutal fix if it is. I got my X-H2 today. I don’t have an S to compare but I still have my X-T4 as a baseline. If I start right away I might be able to test every resolution/codec/bit rate/picture profile combination before the X-H3 arrives 🙄
@@andrewhowe4266 6K is oversampled from 8K, so it makes sense that it doesn’t appear there
The fact that every RUclipsr just points people to you for the nerdy details of tech really says something for your dedication!! Appreciate it!
His dedication is unrivaled I mean can't even begin to image the bhind the scenes work he has to do for these
…and their laziness! 🤓
@@philipbloom Ha!!
@@philipbloom well, what's the point of reiterating facts that can be read elsewhere by others...
@@ev-ezaye3580 because opinions are also important…no?
Thanks! Your videos are unmatched. You've been so much help over the years. The engineers at Fuji, Sony, Canon etc. must be terrified of you. Not to say you aren't fair but talk about exhaustive breakdowns. Kudos Gerald.
Thanks for the kind words and generosity, Mark. Cheers!
Nearing 15 stops of dynamic range on that Xyla 21 -test is very impressive. I wonder how much you can push or pull exposure in post or how much would enabling the interframe NR help.
Me at work dropping everything important to watch this and audibly saying "yes yes yes" the moment I got this notification!
As a hybrid shooter who does a lot pictures the 40mp version looks very good to me, especially as it is cheaper. I usually dont need more than 4k60 and having 8k is great for cropping in video or taking out fotos from the video
How does taking out fotos from the video work?
@@creativetom413 simply grabbing stills from a video
Could there be a standardized test for rolling shutter? Place the cam on an electrically turned head for controlled and standardized movement. Then film a section of vertical lines on a chart and compare the deviation from perfectly vertical. Yes, certain things more than mentioned need also to be standardized...
I did the dynamic range test vs the XH2S here on my channel, everyone doubted me lol. I ended up returning the XH2 because of the quality loss in 60FPS.
Honestly I really don’t think it’s a quality loss just that it as more contrast. I will suggest in 4K60p in the XH2 you shoot with flog1 instead of flog2. Either way I’m enjoying both cameras and been using them for my client jobs.
@@AsuquoTravelsProductions you would do great at a marketing firm.
@@cammackey Well maybe lol. I use both cameras and so I have been able to know my workarounds. Also there is no perfect camera even the 10k cameras have their many issues.
@@AsuquoTravelsProductions once again, you’d be great at a marketing firm haha. Granted we’re not talking about work arounds. We’re just comparing two cameras and the fact is one is better for video than the other. They’re both great. Don’t know why people gotta try to flip it or explain it. We can be honest, for these companies are making tools for our crafts. We are their priority, not the other way around.
I seen your video and "seeing" is believing. You have shown proof that X-H2 was noisier than X-H2s while folks acting like they are blind to see the truth for this obsession of high megapixels.
My experience is that even if flog2 is noisier and in 60p uses 12 bit instead of 14, for very demanding colours/lighting scenarios flog2 can handle those very well where hlg and flog1 will start losing detail and clip/shift colours,
When I was out testing i shot flog2 of a black/gray crow sitting on a white birch branch lit by the sun and camera exposed for the crow and still being super overexposed i was able to recover detail in the branch it was sitting. absolutely amazed.
Only exception is in very low light there is a lot of magenta chroma noise in flog2 but it disappears completely in flog1, noticed this while trying to record the auroras.
Thanks for the amazing insight of both cameras!
You helped inspire my journey into photography and really widen my tech horizons. Thanks for all you do!
I bought the XH2S on Monday. If I watch this video and I got the wrong one, I'll never forgive you for not posting this on Sunday! :D
Ok, so I'm happy I got the S! Great video. Thanks.
@@touchtennis You made the right choice.
Lol
XH2S is videocentic, XH2 is photocentric. What ever you do more is alright to get, but also keep in mind that the XH2S sensor is stacked, so even on stills its gonna be amazing, and 26mp isnt bad for photos, you dont really need 40.
Note for Sub team: 5:18 "in an NLE by just dropping it in a timeline".
An NLE is a Non Linear Editor, like Resolve, Premiere, or Vegas.
I woke up really nerdy today .. watched this video the feeling went away. 😁
I just got the X-H2S because it was reduced on Amazon by £600, so basically the same price as the X-H2. Since I want it primarily for video, it was a great purchase!
Jokes on you
EXACTLY what I needed to really get the difference between those. Thank you!
I'm Gerald Undone and Heeeey, Macarena!
Kudos for an amazingly intense breakdown Gerald
I think I forgot to ask last time about the following:
Everyone analyses the rolling shutter effect in 4K, 6.2K or 8K, but non-oversampled 1080p is seldom looked at.
Is non-oversampled 1080p rolling shutter any different (better) than 4K on the X-H2? Because I wouldn't mind using 1080p for home videos, for instance.
I'm loving the high resolution possibilities of the X-H2 both for photo and video, especially the pixel-shift mode. It'd be a shame to lose them by choosing the X-H2s...
you mentioned that H.265 had a cleaner image than ProRess. Ive felt the same but felt conflicted so im glad you mentioned that
Jello-ier is my new favorite term.
THANK YOU! This is the video that I have been waiting for!
The Canon R5 in Gerald's R5 and R6 review exhibited very similar behaviour as the Fuji X-h2 where the total dynamic range was equal to the low number. The non-HQ mode on the X-H2 still appears to have better dynamic range than the Canons based on the test patterns in your reviews.
cammackey has a comparative between R5C against the XH2S and the Fuji perfomed waaaaay better! i dont know about the numbers of DR on the Canon, but judging by this video... the fuji has the advantage by a large margin
I don’t know if anyone has asked this or not but what about filming with these two cameras together? I have the h2s and am picking up the h2 for resolution in stills. I also shoot video scenes and need 2 cams for that. I currently use Sonys for work but my personal business I’m using Fuji. It’s a little complicated to explain but I have different brands for different things.
Great job Gerald. I’m a Sony shooter but I’ve been in love with the Fuji look / colors.
That's what happened with me. Got an xt3 coming from a6k
Are you gonna do a review for the Fuji XT-5 sometime in the future?
great video - really thankful to see this comparison and explained clearly
As always, a fantastic review. This is a great service you perform in your exhaustive analysis of these cameras. Thank you so much.
I'll have to candidly say I Love the X-H2s, but really wish the AF were better.
While AF is convenient in certain instances, mostly it makes for lazy filmmakers.
You are (at least among the few who mention this from time to time), Specifically, Fuji provides a fantastic consolation by giving users something that is much better: the best peaking capability of any camera I know of, hands down. Rokinon X mount lenses are fantastic, and provide butter-like focus pulls, that not only look gorgeous, but are also wonderfully accurate, detailed, easy to see and control. Using it makes for a much more creative and inventive shooting experience than trying to treat the camera like some sort of glorified point and shoot. GAAAHHH. Enough with that.
Are you experiencing any overheating issue? I'm having it at 27°C room temperature after 15min 😢.. 4k30
Nice review between the X-H2 vs X-H2S. I would go for the X-H2 myself for the 8K capability since I don't see any other cameras under $2K that can do 8K! The battle for APSC sensor cameras seems to be heating up now that the Fujifilm X-H2/S, Sony FX30 and Canon EOS R7 are out. It would be great to have a comparison of all cameras in the sub $2K category to see which one would produce the best video quality for budget filmmakers.
8K is not needed and if you want 8k, you must be doing movies and if thats the case, you have no need to purchase a Fuji camera. You should look into cinema cameras. I'm just saying, people only really need 4k, maybe 6k but its not needed especially for the work people do.
I haven't used the XH-2 but, I rented the XH2-S and it was fantastic. I won't lie, after using the 4k120p, I would settle for that over anything higher resolution. It was so nice if you can practice with the autofocus system. I used it with the new 150-600mm lens and I was filming a squirrel from inside my hotel room way out on a tree and I could count the hairs on his ears.
@@sydneynomura281 Cropping an 8K video to a 4K video with the desired focal length and viewpoint has a lot of advantages you can't get with a 4/5/6K only camera. Yes, a dedicated cinema is best but not for a budget filmmaker/hybrid shooter. The BMPCC 6K G2 is tha budget cinema camera but I wouldn't take photos with it.
@@garrett1144 No doubt that the XH-2S is better for slow motion video capture than XH-2 if that important to you. What's more important to me is capturing high resolution photos and videos as a hybrid shooter that wants every ounce of detail from an affordable sub-$2K camera.
@@MrRlaureano I keep battling the decision between the 2. I have a fuji XT-2 i've been looking to upgrade for a year now and I keep wanting to jump to Sony or Canon but I have 5 lenses that I love with fuji and want to get the new 56mm 1.2. I do tend to shoot in poor light conditions sometimes so I think which ever is better for that would be best for me. I wanted full frame for that reason but I don't want to switch and sell everything. The only thing I didn't like were the button setups and the removal of the ability to press in the scrolling dials front and back. I still don't get that, it was so nice on the XT series.
There's a lot more explanation (for us dummies) in your more recent videos. I appreciate this, thank you.
we have been waiting for this review, happy to see it undone.. thank you
Have you thought about making 4K HDR videos? Would be nice to see samples from these cameras.
I’d love to see that too!
I see the xh2s is a superior video camera which is what it is marketed as. I will be buying the xh2s instead of the xh2. The $500 difference is worth it to get the stacked sensor. I think the xtrans 5 processor has a lot left in it and I think fuji will definitely kizen this bad boy to be a MONSTER. Really hoping for 1080p 480fps 😊😊😊😊
It's exciting to see what will come with firmware updates.
I'm wondering about the crushed blacks phenomenon and how that compares to say the X-T3 or the X-T4. When considering an upgrade from say an X-T3 to an X-H2, will I end up getting worse 4k60 in terms of dynamic range?
Thank you for the insightful review.
I'd say if budget was a major constraint in a Fuji only, small independent studio, (like mine where it's just 3 people) then the XH2 would be a great second camera when the need arises.
We can keep it on the tripod for all locked off shots while the XH2S, (which we currently have) would be amazing on a gimbal/handheld.
Together, they'd be a great Fuji only setup and the savings can go towards cheaper and lighter Sigma lenses versus the very good but expensive new 1.4s from Fuji.
Hopefully the recording to SSD, waveforms and false color from the 100ii will come to these two soon.
Now, Fuji just needs to get their AF firmware issues sorted(a bit of a lost cause though considering their inconsistent results across lenses) and IBIS, well it seems like they just have bad hardware that isn't yet up to the challenge of their version of compact and dense bodies.
id love to see a "6k" showdown, between the fx30, xh2s and blackmagic 6k pro in terms of xyla tests and noise and stuff like that
I second this! I would love to see that.
The FX30 shoots 4K downsampled from 6K. Is that what you mean?
@@AllThingsFilm1 yeah that it has a 6k sensor
A lot of other cameras downsample from 6K though. The other two cameras in your list can actually shoot 6K. GH6 would be a more suitable inclusion than FX30 which can’t shoot 6K.
Thought I was smart with my research, picked up a X-H2 and was disappointed to learn that it doesn't have an Open Gate feature. If I love this camera I'm for sure going to upgrade to the S.
out of every camera you've tested to date, which has provided the most dynamic range with a signal to noise ratio of 2:1?
Interesting and thorough comparison, thanks. 4KHQ works for me.
Nice and helpful video as usual. I am leaning towards the XH2, as i also will us of for photography. But I am also wanting to use it for some run and gun, some tripod work, and walking heads, voiceover stuff. Which would you recommend? I have budget for both. But with the Xh2 it comes down to an extra lens maybe. Or more CF cards.
Very detailed comparisons 😱
There are options that I let on without knowing what it is such as the interframe noise reduction.
It is weird that the x-h2 crops in 4k60. this is pretty basic now.
The fact to be able to zoom in also in video is very handy. it saves post work
Pitty that the x-h2 doesn't offer open gat mode (even though I also still not get 100% what it means)
The 4k hq from the h2 is better than the 4k from the xh2 I guess then.
The tricky thing would be to coordinate all that when shooting with both of them for a given video
- Isn't Prores Hq the best of the best that you can get out of those cameras ? (and prores hq flog 2 the very best?)
- Does the 4k of the x-h2s have a similar 'bad' dynamic range than the non hq 4k from the x-h2? (from What I understood, the 4k of the xh2s is better than the non hq of xh2. )
- What happens if you have a footage with some scenes in flog, some in flog2 and some in eterna?
if xh2 had an open gate mode, it would be using the entire 40mp sensor, which would be like 8.5k or something
I’m a Sony shooter and for some reason, I don’t care what product you’re talking about, I just like hearing your tech talk 😅 it’s my asmar.
Just once it'd be nice if 1080 was mentioned in any of the xh2, xh2s, xt5 videos anywhere on RUclips lol the pursuit of the highest 'k' has gotten out of control imho. In the real world, does anyone care about 8k yet? Most of us hardly even care about 4k haha. But either way, as usual, great video man! Thanks for your work!
Gerald, you bring unparalleled joy to my nerdy senses❤
Really appreciate all the detail that you go into!
Great review. Thank you for including my twitter and clips here!
Saying the new Fujifilm XH2 series' AF poor is an understatement. I have tried the XH2S in field shooting using AF in several trial situations, talking head, run and gun walking subject tracking, transitioning from subject to subject both on the same focusing plane and near and far etc. Unlike Panasonic AF, it's was OK when in focus but utterly unreliable when I had to switch focus points or if the subject moved. My old Canon 70D DSLR autofocuses miles better than that in every respect. You also have to be careful when you plan to rely solely on manual focus using most Fuji lenses. The focus by wire mechanism is not smooth and sometimes jumpy making smooth transitioning next to impossible.
IMO unless you use one of Fujinon's excellent cine lenes or 3rd party true manual lenses, using one of these Fujifilm cameras for critical work would be at best annoying and at worst wreck your shoots.
Love your content brother.
The X-H2 is $2700 USED in Japan and all cameras made within the last few years are so expensive that I can't even think of buying older ones.
I hope that this camera is still useful in 4 years when the price comes down to the point where I can actually afford it.
The XH2S is a great camera with those 14+ stops of dynamic range score by using davinci resolve noise reduction. But the noise quality and appearace should be taken with a grain of salt. Some would like its fine, sharp, and gritty looking noise but some would probably also prefer blocky but softer noise like what other camera brands produce. It all boils down to your style and its features are outstanding for a 26mp camera.
Big big thanks for making this video, exactly the one I wanted to see about this very appealing camera 📷
Great vid. Curious how the the 8K compares to the 6K of the GH6. I don't see a difference between the 6K and 8K on the Fuji.
Dude I love Nebula and CS!! Pretty cool to see they are helping out the Channel with the new sponsorship! Congrats man!
(I might have to cancel my old subscription and sign up with your link 😉)
Hi Gerald. Just an observation and a request. Please could you use the black solid cursor rather than the white solid when highlighting data on predominantly white backgrounds. I might be alone, but I find I'm visually scanning the graph to find the data you are talking about, only for you. to have moved on to another point by the time I find the cursor. I use your videos as learning tools as well as very useful reviews. Thanks in anticipation.
I want a stacked fuji medium format camera
X-H2S's rolling shutter is very much acceptable.
I’ve been waiting for this video. Your the best at this.
Thanks Gerald. Really useful and helpful. Cheers
Thanks!
Thank you for making this video! As an early owner of Fujifilm X-H2s, even tho it is $500 more than X-H2, X-H2 owners still need to spend extra hundreds of dollars if they want a CF Express B card, which is costly. Fujifilm sent us FREE CF Express B (value $424), almost $500! That's a win-win situation. Unfortunately, that deal ends.
A 200dollar angelbird CFexpress B AV PRO SE is enough, same price as a good v90 card so no it isn't that much! And hight capacity v90 cards cost as well extra hundreds dollars 512gb V90 625 euros ( I 'm french) so the all cards are not cheap, but actually the cfexpress B are the most for the price in term of performances
Great review….as always.
I’d love to watch a nerdy Gerald video on the Red Komodo
Hi Gerald
I am interested to purchase 1 of this camera but confusing which one to choose. Can you recommend me. Tks you
Hm... the X-T5 will got that 40 MP sensor, so that line skipping 4K/60p maybe a little worse than the oldie-goldie X-T3 (and X-T4) oversampled 4K/60p? 🙈😁
Well you know what they say ... If it ain't broke don't fix it!
I'm incredibly happy with my X-T4, and I plan on keeping that until I'm damn well ready to upgrade and it's actually worth it! For now... it's not.
Nebula and Curiosity sounds like a great deal!
i really like this video, i'm impressed about the details. but as a full fuji hybrid shooter: if my client pay me as much as your information are important, i go RED. and so long, i take the camera, who i feel convenient with. but: get my like sub and all my love, for your work!
How do the X-H2\X-H2s compare with the Canon R5c for video shooters?
At last, in Gerald we trust
Me: *should be working from home*
*gerald releases a new camera review*
Me: awww shucks, there goes my productivity again
Very very Deep information. thanks Gerald.✌
excelente análisis técnico. Se nota que es un tema que te apasiona y manejas muy bien.
Does the AF perform the same during digital zoom as during normal use? Face and eye detection still work? Or is it like Sony clear image zoom where AF reverts to dumb mode?
The 3:2 6k is great for those reframing for instagram clients.
Sweet thanks, Cannot wait for the next model which might make me switch from Sony...
You better be switching now lol. There is no full frame camera honestly that can match the XH2S spec and price right now.
I still can't decide which to get between Sony x30 or Fuji xh2s ? Anyone can help me ?
Hi gerald ,vhat is yorur idea for big photo and photo printing ,xh2 or a7r3 a73
informative review.
hello, I want to build a new set and I have been following your videos for a long time. That's why I need your opinion)) I usually take photos, but the photos I take are printed on 2x1 banners, albeit a little. But I also shoot video. I'm torn between sony a7iv and fujiiflm xh2. Do you think it would be enough for someone like Fuji Beniö? Or what would you recommend?
My brain hurts after watching your videos. But, I love them. Keep it up. Thanks
So... question about fuji camera settings. I own an x-t3. In regards to sharpness and noise reduction video settings. Is -4 off? Or is 0 off? Is 0 sharpening a bit or is it off and is -4 actually softening the image? This could be a bit less confusing and the manual offers no clarification. Thanks
on the X-H2S review you mentioned H.265 All-Intra 422 codec editing performance, any updates on that?
The camera performs well in all modes/codec in editing.
it's not the camera that needs to perform when editing
@@BogdanSorlea I never said the camera, I was talking about the codecs you mentioned.
The best camera takes a photo ,video that doesn't need after ,post alterations,editing ...I'm the one that likes straight out of a camera ...real thing ... edited it's a lie it's not enymore the reality....
The choice between the 2 camera's will be more on the photography side then i guess. High res or speed.
Please Gerarld make a review of the Fujifilm X-T5
Would you recommend buying the xh2s over the sony a7iv?
Your videos are so SO good. Thank you! Was thinking about the XH2 but the 4K / 60 issue killed the idea for me.
I just wonder how it achieved a 14+ stop dynamic range. Does it have an extereme under the hood noise reduction even when the in camera noise reduction is turned off? It would be interesting to see the detail preservation performance in normal/brighter lighting and also with human subjects. If it still preserves the details in brighter lighting/human subjects while in 14+ stops dynamic range; now that would be impressive but currently I am still not sure if thats the case because I havent found enough tests of those specific scenarios.
I think it’s because of the noise pattern. Fuji advertised their new gen sensors as having the closest to film behaviour, noting that their noise patterns are very close to film. This leads me to believe that it’s the noise pattern+the resolution of the sensor that allows for such tremendous results
X H2s lives up to its "flagship" status.
That’s why we paying the extra $2,500 premium and it’s worth it.
@@AsuquoTravelsProductions Don't you mean $500 premium over the X H2? I got the X H2S and it's fantastic.
@@parmanduke Well I have both and they have performed well above my expectations.
Excellent comparison as always!
Can either camera crop 2x from 4K to 1080p in the same way the X-H2 can crop 2x from 8K to 4K?
Since I'm thinking of getting a camera that can shoot motorsports adequately (lots of panning), either I get the X-H2s or I get the X-H2 but restrict to 1080p due to the excessive rolling shutter at 4K.
I will suggest you get the XH2S since you be doing more run and gun in fast moving objects with panning. Either way you can’t go wrong with either because Fujifilm really did good with both cameras.
While I can't definitively answer your primary question, ( I doubt if they can do that. If Gerald hasn't mentioned about them, I'm sure Gordon Laing would have..you can consider watching his reviews if you haven't). Going by my past experience with motorsports (hobbyist and some years ago) and going by the XH2S performance reviews (I have one but haven't used it for motorsport yet) I'd strongly recommend the XH2S. Not sure about your time & storage constraints during post, but my advice would be to shoot in 4k and reframe in post whenever possible. As of this comment, not sure about either of them doing high res to 1080 in camera zoom. Maybe they could introduce that in firmware later, but the thing is most people prefer shooting in 4k and then exporting to 1080 if needed so I'm not sure if they might add this feature. Wish you the best and I'm sure you will enjoy the cameras, whichever one you pick. May you get more work coming your way. God bless.
There is an HD digital zoom too, yes.
@@geraldundone Excellent news! Thank you. 👍
It's a shame the X-H2s doesn't have a pixel shift mode, though.
Thank you so much for another great content
I want the best of both cameras combined. Why do we always have to choose either or
X-H2S question: I mostly shoot 4K24 and 4K60 in ProRes 422 externally recording to Ninja V+ via HDMI. I don’t understand the difference in shooting ProRes 422 with no codec and shooting ProRes 422 with ProRes codec. What should I be doing? Will shooting ProRes with ProRes codec make the clips more efficient in the editing process? Does it have any drawbacks?
Recording over HDMI likely bypasses the codec you set in camera.
Does the Xt5 have that lineskip issue too?
Any update on the crushing the blacks for xh2 in 4k 60 ?
I may have watched this video more than once.
OK, this was really great. Thank you.
I need to change my second camera(xt3) to a new one. Will I lose too much for filming if I will choose t he X-H2 not the 2s? My another camera is xt4 and I want to have 40mpx sometime for photos... Please help to decide😮
Thanks for making this video.
Would it be feasible to use a speedbooster on a Sony FX30 or Fuji XH2?
I have a GH5 and I wonder if I should go for Fujifilm X-H2 or X-H2S or X-S20. The X-S20 has a X-Trans CMOS 4 instead of 5 however . I hope to get a fast responsive and reliable camera for autofocus and stabilization.
XS 20 is not for pro video work.
Can you pleeease review some high end cameras? I'd love that video. Arri Mini vs RED V Raptor vs Sony Venice 2 vs Canon C700. Then compare it to something like the fx6 or c70 to show what you're getting for all that extra money.
So just go to lab tests at cine5 web...