Thanks for the shout-out! :) I wanted to add on to Grodus' scepter -- the first time you hit it, it's guaranteed to fail. From then on, the % chance of it failing is directly tied to the damage you deal to it. AND, if you use Fire Drive, which hits both Grodus & the scepter (the only attack to do so), it adds the damage dealt to Grodus to the % chance of it failing! That means if you deal enough damage with Fire Drive, Grodus will *NEVER* attack LOL
To add to this, the chance of Grodus failing to attack is 10% * damage dealt, meaning that you only need a single Power Plus to make Fire Drive guarantee that Grodus will be unable to attack.
Flurrie is also vulnerable to quake attacks during the one time you fight her, against Doopliss. She’s even resting directly on the ground instead of floating.
Something else about the ceilings in the game that I heard a while ago is that piranha plants have like a 50% chance to sprout from the ceiling if there is one, but they're never actually encountered in battles with ceilings so the behaviour is unused outside of hacking.
The canon name is bizarre, but you've certainly seen it before. It's the "Status Hasn't Changed!" attack the Shadow Queen has. It makes you immune to status changes for several turns. I don't know why it's called that. Or why the display message is so nonsensical.
I'm actually not sure it's the canon name at all. Far as I'm aware, it's only called that in a Nintendo Power guide. But without any other name for it, it's what we've gone with.
@@LtLabcoatit’s a bad translation, it’s supposed to say something like “Status won’t change” but things like that often get messed up when translating languages
@@LtLabcoat A Koop video also states that Space Food has a 50% chance of causing it when used. I barely used Space Food but I also had a vague memory of the sfx that plays when you take no damage coming up after using an item once, and I did not connect that it was after using Space Food when it happened. Seeing the video was wild.
One item quirk that's kind of obvious in hindsight but "how would you know if you haven't tried?" is when you cook a mystery, you get a random item. This includes a chance of getting rare items like Ultra Shrooms. Also, cooking a dried shroom after giving Zess T the cookbook gives you a shroom fry instead of a mistake. Since you can buy dried shrooms in west rogueport, you can get easy profits this way.
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 That does explain a lot. I always thought it was a PM64 thing (like how a Koopa leaf and Volt shroom makes a LIFE shroom for some reason), but mentioning you need to give her the cookbook first makes so much more sense, as by then, if you still have dried shrooms, you should be rewarded for using them. Though heck. Mistakes heal more than dried shrooms anyway..... so either way, it's worth cooking.
@@MarioMastarMonth late. My idea? Well, the volt shroom is electric so a defibrillator? Maybe Koops Leaf turns into a strong smelling thing like smelling salts, some sort of stimulant to wake you up. Just a guess based on context.
I find it hilarious that in the remake, if you attempt to superguard attacks like Marilyn's lightning bolts, the bolts actually knock away the super guard text and hit you anyway.
The reason why Vivian gets hit by grounded attacks when she’s an enemy and not when she’s teamed up with Mario is because her depression is literally weighing her down. 😑👍
Honestly. TTYD was a harem anime af and I know peach is always endgame but the way Vivian came out of her shell around Mario made it really hard for me not to ship them. Found myself switching to Vivian whenever I didn’t need a partner ability to navigate the environment just because I liked seeing them traveling together.
Unused data shows it originally was seemingly meant to work more akin to Paralysis from PM64, so that's probably left over from before they changed it.
2:41 I think Marilyn's lightning is unguardable specifically to encourage you to use Vivian to deal with her charge attack in the rematch against the Shadow Sirens. She's the one partner character with the highest emotional stakes in this battle, making her crucial to the average casual player's battle strategy is a pretty genius way of encouraging players to pick the partner that makes the most narrative sense.
Which is hilarious bc Bombomb Blast can nuke the fight anyway if Bobbery is in Peril (and maybe has an offense boost) and is probably one the fastest ways to blitz through the fight with minimal effort.
I don’t know for sure, but I think Lumpy, the rat that asks for an oil investment in Rogueport harbor, is guaranteed to strike oil. That rat has never let me down, but I think it would be really funny if he came back and said ‘oops sorry’ 🤷♂️ It’s probably another case of fake randomness.
yes he is guaranteed to strike oil. no i dont think that was really meant to be perceived as random by the player, rather a story event that, on your first time playing, you don't know what it'll be
@@tomjackal5708 Yeah, cause if you choose not to pay him or you forget entirely, he still tells you the story, he just doesn't give you your money back with interest. It's just meant to be a bonus way to get tons of coins if you're perceptive (and without selling badges as most players do...though be careful...there's a hard limit on the number of badges, if you max out the store inventory, you physically cant get anymore badges nor change them out but that's very unlikely as you need to farm a ton of them.).
Surprised that Flurrie’s Gale Force interaction with Cortez’s weapons wasn’t mentioned, considering that it’s the only way to permanently “kill” the weapons
Even I didn't know that, and I was surprised Gale Force gives you Star Points when I first used it. Though I guess the "Kill all enemies without getting SP" thing made the attacks that did that the most useless and redundant in PM64. Lakilester's Hurricane is the most useless and Up and Away Star power as well.
I wound up using my stock pile of items to knock them down & have Admiral throw his timed attack right under Cortez, it was interesting seeing him change forms between the explosions.
The inconsistency with all the feeling fine and tasty tonic stuff is so funny to me. You’d imagine that status blockers would, you know, block statuses. Guess it’s not that simple.
@@BringlesCan Kind of ironic given in PM64, all statuses were more or less the same (prevent you from attacking at all), but they went out of thier way to have status do what you'd expect (dizzy makes you miss now instead of preventing attack entirely) but yeah, they rarely come into play. Wonder if the remake is going to fix that? They did mention new content.
I do have an explanation for the Doopliss thing... With the first fight, it's a case of 'but thou must'. The story says that Doopliss has to steal your identity so he does. Hence him reviving with 10HP if you kill him before then. With the second fight, it's, as you say, they didn't expect you to be able to kill him so quickly, but you are still supposed to defeat him in that fight. Like, Vivian being there if you do that is a bit weird but it's nothing that absolutely breaks the story of the chapter.
Probably had an item in an earlier build. It’d make a lot of sense they’d consider hiding items like that before changing their mind cause of how hard to find it would be.
It's funny him not knowing about the Macho Grubba save lock in. Happened enough to me as a kid we always made sure never to use that save block before the fight.
Sounds like one of those "You either experienced it, or you never did" cases. It's like half of us saved in that room and lost the fight and got "soft locked" and half of us won the fight first try and never worried about it. They'll probably fix it in the remake though.
Basically in chapter 3 after you get into grubba's office and find the blueprint for the energy draining machine grubba will retreat to the ring. Once you have done this due to an oversight the guards at the exits won't move and you are stuck fighting grubba if you saved after finding the blueprint.@@xian2themax
07:04 All of the bosses in the Palace of Shadow have some susceptibility to Showstopper, actually. It has a 5% chance of working on Beldam, Marilyn and Doopliss, and a 1% chance of working on Gloomtail and Grodus. At least according to the Mario Wiki, that is.
Adding to this, turns out that the version of Doopliss you fight in Ch 4 ALSO has a 3% chance of being OHKOed by Showstopper despite being impossible due to the move being unavailable at the time, probably that version of the character was mean to be the same used for ch 8? Who knows?
One super obscure thing that isn't even possible to come across in normal gameplay is in chapter 8. After fighting Grodus, Bowser drops into the room by breaking through the ceiling. After this point in the story, the hole he falls through *actually exists* and is completely functional, transporting you into the Queen's Chamber from the ceiling. However, the hole is in the secret room behind Gloomtail, which is no longer possible to reach after completing Riddle Tower, meaning you never get to actually see the hole without cheats.
Still miss his content. Stryder7x never really covered TTYD though so it is all new to me. Also add to the fact that the game took like 20 years to actually break open means that there are a lot of things to enjoy as an OG Paper Mario fan these days.
yoshi eating things is uncommon on a bunch of small enemies. Things like goombas and fuzzys can be eaten as long as they are the last enemy in combat. It's funny, and I have no idea why anyone would use gulp on the last enemy of a combat let alone something like a fuzzy or goomba.
Another fun obscure battle mechanic is with the fog. Anyone who's played TTYD probably knows about the random dinks on some characters when the fog rolls in. What happens here is that the fog actually is an "attack" that causes 0 damage, but due to its *own effect* of reducing hit rate, it tends to miss most characters. The dinks are the characters that it hits for 0. However, since it is actually an attack, if you're wearing p-up d-down, you'll take 1 damage from it if it hits.
I remember seeing the Yoshi swallows poison pokeys thing as a kid because I had spent a long time there one playthrough with Ms. Mows stealing a ton of copies of a badge from one of the enemies in the outside of that station. I want to say it was a stat boosting badge of some kind but I don't remember which.
Was there like a high spawn rate of enemy badges in that area? Never noticed many enemies carry them in any of my playthroughs, except the pit of 100 trials...
@@meowmasterL346 I think it was just young me wanting a ton of whatever badge it was and grinding it out. I remember doing the same thing and getting a ton of “Pretty Lucky” badges from spinas in the sewers at the start of the game.
My guess for the hooktail bite thing was that they made it like that so that the cricket badge would be “required” in a way - that the attack was unavoidable if you didn’t have the item required
Yeah, like Color Splash, Hooktail does so much damage if you don't have the Crickit badge, she's actually far stronger than the Chapter 2 boss. Though it IS really disappointing the game teaches you how to take advantage of a badge for weakness.....and then never uses that mechanic EVER again. Just really irks me from a game design perspective.
@@MarioMastarit’s not to teach you badge weaknesses. It’s to make it clear beyond any reasonable doubt these badge things are useful and worth giving up HP or FP to equip. A new player might not have spent any levels on BP AT ALL yet
@@concept8192 yeah cause like I said new players probably only put on the power smash from the tutorial at this point. It's easy to forget but these games were intended for fairly young children.
I'm not sure if this counts as "obscure", but since it wasn't mentioned in the video then I'll share it here. When Mario or any partner(?) is on low HP (5 or less) when doing a normal attack with "Stylish!", they'll generate more star power than usual. When in Peril however, you'll generate an absolutely crazy amount of star power. Using say a normal Mario jump attack with both Stylish! triggers, you'll generate so much star power it'll rival that of an Appeal command.
6:58 This is actually complete misinformation, Shadow Queen is in fact the only boss in the Palace of Shadows that isn't weak to Showstopper. Gloomtail and Grodus have a 1% chance to be KOd by Showstopper while the Shadow Sirens and Bowser/Kammy have a 5% chance. Aside from this one blunder though, this was a good watch!
Something i've seen. Luigi will not spawn in boss fights where the boss will eat the audience. (Bonetail, Cortez, Magnus von grapple 2.0, Shadow Queen.) as these battles involve audience groups, and Luigi is a special case.
Things I knew from this video: Thinking the Yoshi Gulp was normal against Pokey heads, NOT knowing that Gulp works against Shadow Queen, Normal Wizzerds having that alt lazer beam, & Poison Shroom healing you Things I thought/hoped you wouldve talked about: The Boulder/Bowser Statue encounter in Pit of 100 Trials, The Bowser encounter in Glitz Pit(apparently its not always common), & The properties of the Ghost Shroom in the Excess Express Nonetheless, always love Bringle content and this was very informative
The Boulder (Technically Meteor) / Bowser Statue are stage events. They're not limited to the pit, but are actually just rare random occurrences you can get starting at Superstar Rank (Level 30). I believe the Bowser encounter in the Glitz Pit is just after a set amount of battles in the Major League (but might also be after a specific fighter placement). And I'm not completely sure what you're talking about with a Ghost Shroom in the Excess Express.
@@revnl17 see, like I didnt even know about the fact that its not limited to JUST the Pit. Thank you. So, I thought the Bowser event at Glitz Pit was because of the first cupcake you eat in the major leagues. The only reason I thought that was because it only happens when I eat that cupcake, and nothing else I did would activate it. So with the Ghost Shroom, I was talking about reading his diary. Sometimes when reading it, in front of him, he would be duplicated
@@remmorris6407 I'll do a bit of testing on both of those last two, because those seem interesting. I'm fairly confident on the Bowser Glitz Pit one, however if it is actually tied to the cake, that's a really interesting behavior. For reading Ghost T.'s diary duping Ghost T., that's most likely an oversight, however I still wanna do testing to see if it's consistent or is affected by something else. I'll probably come back to this soon with findings.
2:11 damn, thats already a thing i learned, saying yes to one of hooktails offers doesnt end in an immediate game over like i thought it would, but still 5 damage in chapter 1 is quite hefty
Some amazingly cool things in here! And here I thought the fact that I found as a kid that you could sometimes tell which wizzerd was the fake based on animations after the attack was a cool piece of knowledge and was proud of myself for finding that out.
Something I noticed a few years ago RE:Fake Randomness (and on closer research it may have been FatGuy703 who showed me this) You are (almost) guarenteed a Shine Sprite BINGO in the second phase of the Shadow Queen fight. Feel free to look up the footage from the following channels, w/time stamps FatGuy703- 20:36 BossBattleChannel- 9:45 BearTheCaptain- 31:12 WilliamDearth- 19:44 astroid- 6:00 the only exception would be if you beat the fight before the Bingo trigger, but yeah otherwise, free full heal to make the boss easier
I think most people know/assume this since it would be really convenient to happen to get a bingo right when a new phase stats but it doesn’t restore your health
@@xian2themax Peach does restore all your HP/FP/SP before the 2nd fight starts though, so you're unlikely to be in dire enough straits to need another full restore by the time you manage to pull off the first three attack action commands of the fight. The main point of the "forced" bingo (from a storytelling perspective) is to refill your audience, since they'd just gotten devoured by the Shadow Queen prior. But since it does come with another full heal, it does let you do a Power Lift for essentially free right at the beginning, since you know your SP will soon be topped off again.
It's not quite "skipping" a phase but it is very useful to cut down on time in the first Shadow Queen fight. The way it works is a little complex. To end the fight, she needs to get hit by 3 "sources" of attack. Mario and his partner's turn count as 1 source normally. However, stage or audience events can count as separate ones. Bomb Squad can count as up to 2 sources, as long as Shadow Queen gets hit at least once on both her left side and her right side. So you can use that in combination with your first turn after her transforming to land the 3rd attack, ending the fight immediately after. I don't recall the specifics of why you have to hit the 2 sides of her, that's a topic for jdaster (as usual)
Also, I feel like this an obscure fact but you can damage the Armored Harriers with the super hammer (and ultra hammer) moves. Which you need yoshi initially to damage but afterwards you dont technically need yoshi to damage them. Its so missable but I often see it miscited
Was just playing the remaster and I used a ruin powder that I got from Ch4 in the first encounter in Ch5 (to get rid of it) and when one of the embers was confused and attacked its ally, it healed it and spawned a dupe. Ig that's what you would THINK would happen, but the fact that it actually did is really neat!
After chapter 6 there is a trouble that unlocks the gold card. It also makes the badge "power rush" available at Pianta Parlor. You can stack them, they use only 1bp. Add a multibounce and your beating every floor of the pit of 100 trials in one turn
15:30 Hearing those tips and having done them all on my first few plays of this game when I was younger brought me much joy. TTYD is such an incredible game - definitely one of the best entries in the Mario series and (imo) a worrhy successor to SMRPG. Fantastic work on this video 🎉
16:25 As someone who isn't an expert at this stuff, I always knew that "being bad" at the fights would get audiences to throw rocks at you. I always took it as similar to that trope of throwing tomatoes at terrible stage performers. Also, maybe this was just me, but I found that the random stuff that would fall from the ceiling during a battle happened more often when "quake" effects happened. Like it sort of shook the stage and caused stuff to fall.
Another kind of quirk with Vivian in the Doopliss fight is that there seems to be a very small chance of her joinning mario in the fight before you even attack at him. Its something that happened to me during first run of the chapter. Or it could be something like if the stage decides at the start its going to freeze you it happens.
I’m 36 years old and still get insanely nostalgic when I see the first 2 Paper Mario games. Was so happy when I realised it was getting redone for the Switch (not just because younger fans can play it but because it might finally get the series out of the slump it’s been in lately). Anyway, stuff you show in this video is exactly why so many of us love these games (hell I still love Super as well, I would kill for that to be remade with TTYD’s battle system, might actually make Count Bleck and Dimentio imposing in battles and not die in 10 seconds lol). Also, would love for a full game version of Luigi’s crazy adventure from TTYD.
Found one of your videos in my recommended over 4 months ago even through I never watched or knew anything about paper Mario. Now I feel like it’s a fantastic game I missed a while back and I always look forward to your videos. Keep up the awesome work, you’ve quickly became my favorite RUclipsr to watch.
The first time i was in the pianta parlor, i timed the machine on the lowest sounding beep on the slots, cuz it was a consistent cue, and i got it, id have to try it again sometime
I've encountered the pokey thing. They kept respawning more pokeys. One of them eventually got down to just the head. Did gulp to throw it at the one behind it and yoshi ate it. Would have rather him spit it out to damage the one behind it.
I’m sure it’s common knowledge but if the audience has an item they are about to throw at you, rather than just try to block or dodge it, if you just switch the character order right before the attack lands you’ll dodge item throws.
One I haven't seen in the comments is that while you might know that Bobbery can get rid of fog by attacking an enemy, you can also get rid of the fog on stage by appealing as him!
For doing the Bingo thing, i like to count out what I want ( a trick from Mario Party Chance Time). For example if I want a Shine Sprite for the Bingo I watch the right side and count out everytime it passes, and 95% of the time I will always get the bingo cause of how it's not random.
Fun little glitch i use to do when owning an Action Replay, Was super jumping (L and A) over a boulder in the background on the twilight maps. It would spawn you in the front where u can run past the enemies towards the castle and since the game doesnt detect you as having a partner, it puts a text box over Mario with an error text
i learned something new from this video and ive been playing TTYD for a long while. legit didnt know that special moves ignore evasion/accuracy changes. that will be useful for me indeed
In the battle you can use flurry’s gale force ability on Cortez’s weapons in the second phase to completely eliminate them from the battle then on so you only have to focus on the head itself.
@@MarioMastar there were some allegations from his ex a few years ago, a video done by the channel Nice Stories: Not the real Stories goes into detail on it. Honestly it just seems like a he-said/she-said scenario but Stryder ended up leaving YT and Twitch altogether
A oversight i found is that you can grind coins if you face a team of bandits in the 100 trials. Once the bandits steal your coins they will keep fleeing and as a result you will keep getting coins from the clear bonus on the same floor
I had the pokey interaction happen to me when i did the pit of 100 trials for the first time! I was about chapter 6 when I went down, and my partners had very little HP except for yoshi. I was up against some pokeys, stalling for SP and using fire drive when i hoped a gulp could swallow and spit the front one, and kill the second one to set up for a clutch finish. Instead, he gulped it, and I had to supergaurd multiple attacks to barely live.
Did you notice that during the lord krump fight, he lit the fuse of the Big bobomb in the crowd? I seriously didn't know that fire attacks could light bobomb fuses in the crowd.
Here's something fun they could have done- if you somehow manage to beat Doopliss in one turn on the second phase, the explanation for Vivian allying you is that she not only saw you beat up the bad guy, but also did so extremely quickly. So she knows you're on the good side and that you're strong, and that would be someone she wants to ally with.
Sometimes you will see Luigi in the audience. I had a moment where Luigi jumps on stage and helps you fight by sending stage props dropping on the enemy just like when shy guys do it.
Oh, I remember discovering that Yoshi Gulp quirk when I was a kid! Was probably fighting a large group of Pokeys with Yoshi active, so the last one probably got down to a single segment, and I had the idea to use Gulp on it, and it worked! Made sense to me as a kid because you could eat Pokeys bit by bit in Super Mario World like that lol
There is A very rare death screen that involves the Dark Bones, if you don’t hammer the dry bones for 7 seconds the floor will eat mario and co causing a game over
Thing I just learned from the wiki: illusion enemies (magikoopas/wizzards) have unique tattle text if you hit an illusion, telling you it's an illusion
Why would anyone think either of the slots minigames were random when it lets you chose when to stop them and they consistently land on the same thing if you time it right?
I've encountered the Yoshi Pokey gulp quirk when I played years ago. During one playthrough, I wanted to use Yoshi exclusively as my partner as soon as I got him. Pokeys were a pain, but I found it funny to have them lose segments slowly, until Yoshi just... ate one. I remember calling my brother in to show him, but I couldn't get it to work the second time. This 50% explanation solves that age-old confusion though!
Thanks for the shout-out! :) I wanted to add on to Grodus' scepter -- the first time you hit it, it's guaranteed to fail. From then on, the % chance of it failing is directly tied to the damage you deal to it. AND, if you use Fire Drive, which hits both Grodus & the scepter (the only attack to do so), it adds the damage dealt to Grodus to the % chance of it failing! That means if you deal enough damage with Fire Drive, Grodus will *NEVER* attack LOL
To add to this, the chance of Grodus failing to attack is 10% * damage dealt, meaning that you only need a single Power Plus to make Fire Drive guarantee that Grodus will be unable to attack.
That’s very cool that you guys figured this out.
The badges / badge points were such a great mechanic.
They felt great to find and steal off enemies with Ms. Mouze
Thanks guys, I’m currently stuck on grodus and bowser and this info helps a lot
How I wish the kid version of me knew about this 20 years ago.😂
Flurrie is also vulnerable to quake attacks during the one time you fight her, against Doopliss. She’s even resting directly on the ground instead of floating.
But why tho
@@algotkristoffersson15A. Why not?
Doopliss' terrible attitude was bringing her down?
Something else about the ceilings in the game that I heard a while ago is that piranha plants have like a 50% chance to sprout from the ceiling if there is one, but they're never actually encountered in battles with ceilings so the behaviour is unused outside of hacking.
I think most people know this, but you can use quake hammer to wake your audience when they fall asleep from a Dayzee.
Wait really ??
bro we do NOT know this
you have to be fucking joking bro please say sike
That's news to me!
Got me! I didn't know that at all!
Brings up odd status conditions like Allergic. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves
Allergic is a status effect that's mutually exclusive with every other status effect. At least that's what I know.
The canon name is bizarre, but you've certainly seen it before. It's the "Status Hasn't Changed!" attack the Shadow Queen has. It makes you immune to status changes for several turns.
I don't know why it's called that. Or why the display message is so nonsensical.
I'm actually not sure it's the canon name at all. Far as I'm aware, it's only called that in a Nintendo Power guide. But without any other name for it, it's what we've gone with.
@@LtLabcoatit’s a bad translation, it’s supposed to say something like “Status won’t change” but things like that often get messed up when translating languages
@@LtLabcoat A Koop video also states that Space Food has a 50% chance of causing it when used. I barely used Space Food but I also had a vague memory of the sfx that plays when you take no damage coming up after using an item once, and I did not connect that it was after using Space Food when it happened. Seeing the video was wild.
One item quirk that's kind of obvious in hindsight but "how would you know if you haven't tried?" is when you cook a mystery, you get a random item. This includes a chance of getting rare items like Ultra Shrooms. Also, cooking a dried shroom after giving Zess T the cookbook gives you a shroom fry instead of a mistake. Since you can buy dried shrooms in west rogueport, you can get easy profits this way.
.....you do? I've only ever gotten a Mistake.
@@CybeastID you have to give her the cookbook first.
I knew the first fact, but the second one is insanely obscure and I will definitely be making use of it on my next playthrough
@@phictionofgrandeur2387 That does explain a lot. I always thought it was a PM64 thing (like how a Koopa leaf and Volt shroom makes a LIFE shroom for some reason), but mentioning you need to give her the cookbook first makes so much more sense, as by then, if you still have dried shrooms, you should be rewarded for using them.
Though heck. Mistakes heal more than dried shrooms anyway..... so either way, it's worth cooking.
@@MarioMastarMonth late. My idea? Well, the volt shroom is electric so a defibrillator? Maybe Koops Leaf turns into a strong smelling thing like smelling salts, some sort of stimulant to wake you up.
Just a guess based on context.
I find it hilarious that in the remake, if you attempt to superguard attacks like Marilyn's lightning bolts, the bolts actually knock away the super guard text and hit you anyway.
Really? Such a cool detail
Do you know a video that shows it? (If you do, please drop the video ID, and not a link, because YT often hides comments with links.)
@@Moegivesmelife I think fatguy07 shows it in one video. He plays a lot of paper mario and ttyd romhacks and stuff
11:30 A fine addition to my playlist "Speedrunning videos that play sm64 title theme when talking about some tech as a pannen homage"
It's incredible seeing so many people feel the same.
That's awesome
@@SegmentW send me any ya know about :)
What was the name of that theme?
@@meyomeyo9911 "File Select" from super mario 64
The reason why Vivian gets hit by grounded attacks when she’s an enemy and not when she’s teamed up with Mario is because her depression is literally weighing her down.
😑👍
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@Ironmaninfinite nobody likes you
Honestly. TTYD was a harem anime af and I know peach is always endgame but the way Vivian came out of her shell around Mario made it really hard for me not to ship them. Found myself switching to Vivian whenever I didn’t need a partner ability to navigate the environment just because I liked seeing them traveling together.
@@MegaBrokenstarwhat?
@@MegaBrokenstar Playing TTYD for the first time because remake, imo Vivian is definitely best girl.
Feeling Fine "curing" the electric status effect feels so wrong...
Unused data shows it originally was seemingly meant to work more akin to Paralysis from PM64, so that's probably left over from before they changed it.
Hi Nate!
Does that also include Zap Tap, or only if you get non-permanent Electric from an item?
@@WackoMcGoose Zap Tap is weird and I believe it bypasses Feeling Fine.
Kinda reminds me of how Group Hug in SMRPG "cures" Red Essence.
TTYD really is a gem of a game.
2:41 I think Marilyn's lightning is unguardable specifically to encourage you to use Vivian to deal with her charge attack in the rematch against the Shadow Sirens. She's the one partner character with the highest emotional stakes in this battle, making her crucial to the average casual player's battle strategy is a pretty genius way of encouraging players to pick the partner that makes the most narrative sense.
Which is hilarious bc Bombomb Blast can nuke the fight anyway if Bobbery is in Peril (and maybe has an offense boost) and is probably one the fastest ways to blitz through the fight with minimal effort.
*Shadow Queen:* Literally gets swallowed whole and spat out.
*Also Shadow Queen:* "Is that your idea of an attack? Foolish..."
Gulping the Shadow Queen looks so goofy, I love it.
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I don’t know for sure, but I think Lumpy, the rat that asks for an oil investment in Rogueport harbor, is guaranteed to strike oil. That rat has never let me down, but I think it would be really funny if he came back and said ‘oops sorry’ 🤷♂️
It’s probably another case of fake randomness.
That would such a troll if you spend 300 coins and Lumpy doesn't give you anything after that 🤣
yes he is guaranteed to strike oil. no i dont think that was really meant to be perceived as random by the player, rather a story event that, on your first time playing, you don't know what it'll be
@@tomjackal5708 Yeah, cause if you choose not to pay him or you forget entirely, he still tells you the story, he just doesn't give you your money back with interest. It's just meant to be a bonus way to get tons of coins if you're perceptive (and without selling badges as most players do...though be careful...there's a hard limit on the number of badges, if you max out the store inventory, you physically cant get anymore badges nor change them out but that's very unlikely as you need to farm a ton of them.).
Surprised that Flurrie’s Gale Force interaction with Cortez’s weapons wasn’t mentioned, considering that it’s the only way to permanently “kill” the weapons
Even I didn't know that, and I was surprised Gale Force gives you Star Points when I first used it. Though I guess the "Kill all enemies without getting SP" thing made the attacks that did that the most useless and redundant in PM64. Lakilester's Hurricane is the most useless and Up and Away Star power as well.
And it DRASTICALLY changes the fight difficulty since it goes from 5 attacks per turn to just one.
🤯🤯🤯🤯
I did it the hard way >.
I wound up using my stock pile of items to knock them down & have Admiral throw his timed attack right under Cortez, it was interesting seeing him change forms between the explosions.
6:59 gloomtail actually has a 1% chance to be ko-ed by show stopper
Yea no there's no point in doing that with gloomtails massive 8 attack
You can also just 1 shot it with yoshi and a bunch of mega rush P’s.
@@RandomDude-k7wheart of the cards
So does Grodus haha
The inconsistency with all the feeling fine and tasty tonic stuff is so funny to me. You’d imagine that status blockers would, you know, block statuses. Guess it’s not that simple.
It’s just such random combinations, it was probably fairly easy for the dev team to overlook since they barely used status effects in the game lol
Banger video as always! Love the challenge runs, but I also love this kind of more discussion kind of videos, just like the badge ranking!
@@BringlesCan its the fact one only blocks atk down but not def down that really does it for me lol
It should just be a boolean value. I'm struggling to figure out how this happens.
@@BringlesCan Kind of ironic given in PM64, all statuses were more or less the same (prevent you from attacking at all), but they went out of thier way to have status do what you'd expect (dizzy makes you miss now instead of preventing attack entirely) but yeah, they rarely come into play. Wonder if the remake is going to fix that? They did mention new content.
I didn’t experience myself, but apparently in the remake, if you beat Doopliss before Vivian rejoins the party, he’ll get revived by a life shroom.
I do have an explanation for the Doopliss thing...
With the first fight, it's a case of 'but thou must'. The story says that Doopliss has to steal your identity so he does. Hence him reviving with 10HP if you kill him before then.
With the second fight, it's, as you say, they didn't expect you to be able to kill him so quickly, but you are still supposed to defeat him in that fight. Like, Vivian being there if you do that is a bit weird but it's nothing that absolutely breaks the story of the chapter.
once you reach "giga brain scholar of TTYD" you might as well get a full tattoo of the box art on your back
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*W H O ‘ S B E E N D R A W I N G D I C K S*
everyone who's ever played this game is drawing dicks
There's a bush in Chapter 1 that can be blown away by Flurries for no reason. It's during the approach to the fuzzy dungeons.
Probably had an item in an earlier build. It’d make a lot of sense they’d consider hiding items like that before changing their mind cause of how hard to find it would be.
@@Skullhawk13 I'm glad they didn't do that. This game already has enough backtracking.
Marilyn can actually charge twice in rare occasions to deal massive unblockable damage
I just learned this somewhat recently. Surprised he didn't mention it but it makes veiling Marilyn's lightning attack dangerous after only one charge
It's funny him not knowing about the Macho Grubba save lock in. Happened enough to me as a kid we always made sure never to use that save block before the fight.
Sounds like one of those "You either experienced it, or you never did" cases. It's like half of us saved in that room and lost the fight and got "soft locked" and half of us won the fight first try and never worried about it. They'll probably fix it in the remake though.
@@MarioMastar In my case it was less of a softlock and more of had to call my dad to beat macho grubba up for me.
Can you elaborate on what this is?
Basically in chapter 3 after you get into grubba's office and find the blueprint for the energy draining machine grubba will retreat to the ring. Once you have done this due to an oversight the guards at the exits won't move and you are stuck fighting grubba if you saved after finding the blueprint.@@xian2themax
You are locked in to fight Macho Grubba in Glitzville once you beat Rawk Hawk. There is a save block in the hallway. @@xian2themax
07:04 All of the bosses in the Palace of Shadow have some susceptibility to Showstopper, actually. It has a 5% chance of working on Beldam, Marilyn and Doopliss, and a 1% chance of working on Gloomtail and Grodus. At least according to the Mario Wiki, that is.
Adding to this, turns out that the version of Doopliss you fight in Ch 4 ALSO has a 3% chance of being OHKOed by Showstopper despite being impossible due to the move being unavailable at the time, probably that version of the character was mean to be the same used for ch 8? Who knows?
One super obscure thing that isn't even possible to come across in normal gameplay is in chapter 8. After fighting Grodus, Bowser drops into the room by breaking through the ceiling. After this point in the story, the hole he falls through *actually exists* and is completely functional, transporting you into the Queen's Chamber from the ceiling. However, the hole is in the secret room behind Gloomtail, which is no longer possible to reach after completing Riddle Tower, meaning you never get to actually see the hole without cheats.
Could you superjump?
Bringle, I'm so glad we have you around especially now that Stryder7x doesn't post anymore. You have the best TTYD content! Thank you! :)
Still miss his content. Stryder7x never really covered TTYD though so it is all new to me. Also add to the fact that the game took like 20 years to actually break open means that there are a lot of things to enjoy as an OG Paper Mario fan these days.
In the remake, they fixed the Star Piece panel in the Excess Express engine. You can now collect it when the train is heading towards Rogueport.
yoshi eating things is uncommon on a bunch of small enemies. Things like goombas and fuzzys can be eaten as long as they are the last enemy in combat. It's funny, and I have no idea why anyone would use gulp on the last enemy of a combat let alone something like a fuzzy or goomba.
Another fun obscure battle mechanic is with the fog. Anyone who's played TTYD probably knows about the random dinks on some characters when the fog rolls in. What happens here is that the fog actually is an "attack" that causes 0 damage, but due to its *own effect* of reducing hit rate, it tends to miss most characters. The dinks are the characters that it hits for 0. However, since it is actually an attack, if you're wearing p-up d-down, you'll take 1 damage from it if it hits.
The strangest interaction I've ever seen with audience members is I've seen LUIGI throw a rock at Mario and kicked him out of the crowd
OBVIOUSLY that was Doo.. uhh.. DooPliss. I can't find the lowercase P on my keyboard
Do you have a video link?
it's right there
@kotoriitsuka4418 I wish I had it recorded from my GameCube it was funny
But… Luigi & Toads are only programmed to throw positive items. They will in fact never throw anything harmful at Mario or his partners…
I remember seeing the Yoshi swallows poison pokeys thing as a kid because I had spent a long time there one playthrough with Ms. Mows stealing a ton of copies of a badge from one of the enemies in the outside of that station. I want to say it was a stat boosting badge of some kind but I don't remember which.
Was there like a high spawn rate of enemy badges in that area? Never noticed many enemies carry them in any of my playthroughs, except the pit of 100 trials...
@@meowmasterL346 I think it was just young me wanting a ton of whatever badge it was and grinding it out. I remember doing the same thing and getting a ton of “Pretty Lucky” badges from spinas in the sewers at the start of the game.
My guess for the hooktail bite thing was that they made it like that so that the cricket badge would be “required” in a way - that the attack was unavoidable if you didn’t have the item required
Yeah, like Color Splash, Hooktail does so much damage if you don't have the Crickit badge, she's actually far stronger than the Chapter 2 boss. Though it IS really disappointing the game teaches you how to take advantage of a badge for weakness.....and then never uses that mechanic EVER again. Just really irks me from a game design perspective.
@@MarioMastarit’s not to teach you badge weaknesses. It’s to make it clear beyond any reasonable doubt these badge things are useful and worth giving up HP or FP to equip. A new player might not have spent any levels on BP AT ALL yet
@@Skullhawk13I mean, it doesn't really work like that very well because the Attack FXs cost 0 BP
@@concept8192 yeah cause like I said new players probably only put on the power smash from the tutorial at this point. It's easy to forget but these games were intended for fairly young children.
@@Skullhawk13 right
I'm not sure if this counts as "obscure", but since it wasn't mentioned in the video then I'll share it here.
When Mario or any partner(?) is on low HP (5 or less) when doing a normal attack with "Stylish!", they'll generate more star power than usual. When in Peril however, you'll generate an absolutely crazy amount of star power. Using say a normal Mario jump attack with both Stylish! triggers, you'll generate so much star power it'll rival that of an Appeal command.
Because we needed danger/peril mario to be stronger!
I’d always thought that Magnus von Grapple was locking onto a target so that his aim was true, not choosing a target.
6:58 This is actually complete misinformation, Shadow Queen is in fact the only boss in the Palace of Shadows that isn't weak to Showstopper. Gloomtail and Grodus have a 1% chance to be KOd by Showstopper while the Shadow Sirens and Bowser/Kammy have a 5% chance. Aside from this one blunder though, this was a good watch!
I hope someone was fired for THAT blunder
Something i've seen. Luigi will not spawn in boss fights where the boss will eat the audience. (Bonetail, Cortez, Magnus von grapple 2.0, Shadow Queen.) as these battles involve audience groups, and Luigi is a special case.
19:15 To my Knowledge, this Failsafe has been added to the Remake version. So you'll have to wait till Vivian shows up.
bringlebros we are so fucking back
Things I knew from this video:
Thinking the Yoshi Gulp was normal against Pokey heads,
NOT knowing that Gulp works against Shadow Queen,
Normal Wizzerds having that alt lazer beam, &
Poison Shroom healing you
Things I thought/hoped you wouldve talked about:
The Boulder/Bowser Statue encounter in Pit of 100 Trials,
The Bowser encounter in Glitz Pit(apparently its not always common), &
The properties of the Ghost Shroom in the Excess Express
Nonetheless, always love Bringle content and this was very informative
The Boulder (Technically Meteor) / Bowser Statue are stage events. They're not limited to the pit, but are actually just rare random occurrences you can get starting at Superstar Rank (Level 30).
I believe the Bowser encounter in the Glitz Pit is just after a set amount of battles in the Major League (but might also be after a specific fighter placement).
And I'm not completely sure what you're talking about with a Ghost Shroom in the Excess Express.
@@revnl17 see, like I didnt even know about the fact that its not limited to JUST the Pit. Thank you.
So, I thought the Bowser event at Glitz Pit was because of the first cupcake you eat in the major leagues. The only reason I thought that was because it only happens when I eat that cupcake, and nothing else I did would activate it.
So with the Ghost Shroom, I was talking about reading his diary. Sometimes when reading it, in front of him, he would be duplicated
@@remmorris6407 I'll do a bit of testing on both of those last two, because those seem interesting.
I'm fairly confident on the Bowser Glitz Pit one, however if it is actually tied to the cake, that's a really interesting behavior.
For reading Ghost T.'s diary duping Ghost T., that's most likely an oversight, however I still wanna do testing to see if it's consistent or is affected by something else.
I'll probably come back to this soon with findings.
@@revnl17 when TTYD got the remake announced, I just played it with friends over Discord. I wasnt expecting to find out so much stuff as I did
@@remmorris6407 Yeah, it's crazy just how many small details they managed to pack into the game
2:11 damn, thats already a thing i learned, saying yes to one of hooktails offers doesnt end in an immediate game over like i thought it would, but still 5 damage in chapter 1 is quite hefty
Some amazingly cool things in here! And here I thought the fact that I found as a kid that you could sometimes tell which wizzerd was the fake based on animations after the attack was a cool piece of knowledge and was proud of myself for finding that out.
I wonder if a lot of these are in the Remake
All those un-gaudeble attacks are still here
All the unguardable attacks are still in the remake.
Something I noticed a few years ago RE:Fake Randomness (and on closer research it may have been FatGuy703 who showed me this)
You are (almost) guarenteed a Shine Sprite BINGO in the second phase of the Shadow Queen fight. Feel free to look up the footage from the following channels, w/time stamps
FatGuy703- 20:36
BossBattleChannel- 9:45
BearTheCaptain- 31:12
WilliamDearth- 19:44
astroid- 6:00
the only exception would be if you beat the fight before the Bingo trigger, but yeah otherwise, free full heal to make the boss easier
Which as Bringles showed is entirely possible if you NEVER do an action command with any attack (or never attack period). XD
I think most people know/assume this since it would be really convenient to happen to get a bingo right when a new phase stats but it doesn’t restore your health
@@xian2themax Peach does restore all your HP/FP/SP before the 2nd fight starts though, so you're unlikely to be in dire enough straits to need another full restore by the time you manage to pull off the first three attack action commands of the fight.
The main point of the "forced" bingo (from a storytelling perspective) is to refill your audience, since they'd just gotten devoured by the Shadow Queen prior. But since it does come with another full heal, it does let you do a Power Lift for essentially free right at the beginning, since you know your SP will soon be topped off again.
YOU CAN ATTACK GRODUS' SCEPTER?!?!?!
Feeling Fine did prevent getting freezed in PM64, a very useful badge against the Crystal King!
Bobbery’s Bomb Squad attack can let you skip boss phases in both the Cortez and Shadow Queen fights
It's not quite "skipping" a phase but it is very useful to cut down on time in the first Shadow Queen fight. The way it works is a little complex. To end the fight, she needs to get hit by 3 "sources" of attack. Mario and his partner's turn count as 1 source normally. However, stage or audience events can count as separate ones. Bomb Squad can count as up to 2 sources, as long as Shadow Queen gets hit at least once on both her left side and her right side. So you can use that in combination with your first turn after her transforming to land the 3rd attack, ending the fight immediately after. I don't recall the specifics of why you have to hit the 2 sides of her, that's a topic for jdaster (as usual)
Also, I feel like this an obscure fact but you can damage the Armored Harriers with the super hammer (and ultra hammer) moves. Which you need yoshi initially to damage but afterwards you dont technically need yoshi to damage them. Its so missable but I often see it miscited
That sounds valid, you don't get the Super/Ultra Hammer until after your scripted battle with them but it does work the same way effectively,
Was just playing the remaster and I used a ruin powder that I got from Ch4 in the first encounter in Ch5 (to get rid of it) and when one of the embers was confused and attacked its ally, it healed it and spawned a dupe. Ig that's what you would THINK would happen, but the fact that it actually did is really neat!
I'm loving all these PMTTYD content creators are putting out before the release of the remake, it brings joy to my little boy heart ❤️
After chapter 6 there is a trouble that unlocks the gold card. It also makes the badge "power rush" available at Pianta Parlor. You can stack them, they use only 1bp. Add a multibounce and your beating every floor of the pit of 100 trials in one turn
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Hearing those tips and having done them all on my first few plays of this game when I was younger brought me much joy.
TTYD is such an incredible game - definitely one of the best entries in the Mario series and (imo) a worrhy successor to SMRPG.
Fantastic work on this video 🎉
11:55 I thought that thumbnail was clickbait you got me... That fact is mindblowing.
Omg I just learned so many new things... you just effectively made me about 69x more excited for the remake!
13:25 Grubba considering an OHKO violence feels a little 'no duh'
I remember the guards blocking everything before the Grubba Fight. As a kid I played pretty conservatively and always restocked items before the boss
5:53 actually each point of damage is plus 10% to the chance of missing (1=10%, 2=20% etc.)
16:25 As someone who isn't an expert at this stuff, I always knew that "being bad" at the fights would get audiences to throw rocks at you. I always took it as similar to that trope of throwing tomatoes at terrible stage performers.
Also, maybe this was just me, but I found that the random stuff that would fall from the ceiling during a battle happened more often when "quake" effects happened. Like it sort of shook the stage and caused stuff to fall.
I was pretty convinced that was the case with the audience. The quake part I was inclined to think too.
Another kind of quirk with Vivian in the Doopliss fight is that there seems to be a very small chance of her joinning mario in the fight before you even attack at him. Its something that happened to me during first run of the chapter. Or it could be something like if the stage decides at the start its going to freeze you it happens.
I’m 36 years old and still get insanely nostalgic when I see the first 2 Paper Mario games. Was so happy when I realised it was getting redone for the Switch (not just because younger fans can play it but because it might finally get the series out of the slump it’s been in lately).
Anyway, stuff you show in this video is exactly why so many of us love these games (hell I still love Super as well, I would kill for that to be remade with TTYD’s battle system, might actually make Count Bleck and Dimentio imposing in battles and not die in 10 seconds lol). Also, would love for a full game version of Luigi’s crazy adventure from TTYD.
Found one of your videos in my recommended over 4 months ago even through I never watched or knew anything about paper Mario. Now I feel like it’s a fantastic game I missed a while back and I always look forward to your videos. Keep up the awesome work, you’ve quickly became my favorite RUclipsr to watch.
The first time i was in the pianta parlor, i timed the machine on the lowest sounding beep on the slots, cuz it was a consistent cue, and i got it, id have to try it again sometime
I've encountered the pokey thing.
They kept respawning more pokeys. One of them eventually got down to just the head. Did gulp to throw it at the one behind it and yoshi ate it. Would have rather him spit it out to damage the one behind it.
Did not know about Vivian’s immunity to ground attacks and attacking Grodus’ scepter. And I played this game so many times throughout my life! 😭
I’m sure it’s common knowledge but if the audience has an item they are about to throw at you, rather than just try to block or dodge it, if you just switch the character order right before the attack lands you’ll dodge item throws.
Nice Bringel 🎉
One I haven't seen in the comments is that while you might know that Bobbery can get rid of fog by attacking an enemy, you can also get rid of the fog on stage by appealing as him!
All this content is just getting me more hyped for the HD Switch remake
For doing the Bingo thing, i like to count out what I want ( a trick from Mario Party Chance Time). For example if I want a Shine Sprite for the Bingo I watch the right side and count out everytime it passes, and 95% of the time I will always get the bingo cause of how it's not random.
Fun little glitch i use to do when owning an Action Replay,
Was super jumping (L and A) over a boulder in the background on the twilight maps.
It would spawn you in the front where u can run past the enemies towards the castle and since the game doesnt detect you as having a partner, it puts a text box over Mario with an error text
New viewer here after randomly getting recommended your videos! Just wanna say, keep up the good work!
2 months until the remake...... 🔥🔥🔥🫡🫡🫡
I missed your old channel but I'm so glad you are here!
i learned something new from this video and ive been playing TTYD for a long while. legit didnt know that special moves ignore evasion/accuracy changes. that will be useful for me indeed
In the battle you can use flurry’s gale force ability on Cortez’s weapons in the second phase to completely eliminate them from the battle then on so you only have to focus on the head itself.
14:00 I miss Stryder 😢
Discord p got internet personalities actin’ strange
@@runawayspodiac2945 not sure what that means?
Something happened to Stryder? I noticed I haven't been seeing his videos since the Paper Mario Master Quest mod. Kind of a shame.
@@MarioMastar there were some allegations from his ex a few years ago, a video done by the channel Nice Stories: Not the real Stories goes into detail on it. Honestly it just seems like a he-said/she-said scenario but Stryder ended up leaving YT and Twitch altogether
A oversight i found is that you can grind coins if you face a team of bandits in the 100 trials. Once the bandits steal your coins they will keep fleeing and as a result you will keep getting coins from the clear bonus on the same floor
9:13 - 9:18 🤣 🤣 I almost spit out my food, I was not expecting that.
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yeah i know
I had the pokey interaction happen to me when i did the pit of 100 trials for the first time! I was about chapter 6 when I went down, and my partners had very little HP except for yoshi. I was up against some pokeys, stalling for SP and using fire drive when i hoped a gulp could swallow and spit the front one, and kill the second one to set up for a clutch finish. Instead, he gulped it, and I had to supergaurd multiple attacks to barely live.
I heard from somewhere (don’t remember who/what said it) that Gloomtail has 1% to be affected by Showstopper
The wiki doesn’t mention it, but any “friendly fire” attacks that happen with the Confusion status also can’t be guarded or superguarded
I cannot wait for the TTYD remake. Gonna buy a switch just for it tbh
Did you notice that during the lord krump fight, he lit the fuse of the Big bobomb in the crowd? I seriously didn't know that fire attacks could light bobomb fuses in the crowd.
Babe wake up another Bringle banger just dropped
Here's something fun they could have done- if you somehow manage to beat Doopliss in one turn on the second phase, the explanation for Vivian allying you is that she not only saw you beat up the bad guy, but also did so extremely quickly. So she knows you're on the good side and that you're strong, and that would be someone she wants to ally with.
Doopliss 5 adventure
8:52 shadow queen giving the yoshi shit after she's just been swallowed whole and spit back out
I cannot wait for the remake. Easily one of my favorite games ever.
Playing the remake blind its so hard to belive that this game originally released 20 years ago, that's just insane to me.
Sometimes you will see Luigi in the audience. I had a moment where Luigi jumps on stage and helps you fight by sending stage props dropping on the enemy just like when shy guys do it.
Now I'm curious how the audience works anyway. I've never really though about it other than "successful hit good, unsuccessful hit bad"
Oh, I remember discovering that Yoshi Gulp quirk when I was a kid! Was probably fighting a large group of Pokeys with Yoshi active, so the last one probably got down to a single segment, and I had the idea to use Gulp on it, and it worked! Made sense to me as a kid because you could eat Pokeys bit by bit in Super Mario World like that lol
another bringle banger has hit the youtube notifications
There is A very rare death screen that involves the Dark Bones, if you don’t hammer the dry bones for 7 seconds the floor will eat mario and co causing a game over
One thing I have noticed that I haven't heard anyone talk about, if you appeal with Bobbery when there is fog, it eill always remove it
9:13 what uhhhh... what you drawin there??
Thing I just learned from the wiki: illusion enemies (magikoopas/wizzards) have unique tattle text if you hit an illusion, telling you it's an illusion
Why would anyone think either of the slots minigames were random when it lets you chose when to stop them and they consistently land on the same thing if you time it right?
I've encountered the Yoshi Pokey gulp quirk when I played years ago. During one playthrough, I wanted to use Yoshi exclusively as my partner as soon as I got him. Pokeys were a pain, but I found it funny to have them lose segments slowly, until Yoshi just... ate one. I remember calling my brother in to show him, but I couldn't get it to work the second time. This 50% explanation solves that age-old confusion though!
This video was so clickable by the title alone.
Genius idea and I hope to see more like this. Perhaps a JP specific video for mechanics/glitches?
Theres a sequence break you can do when Flavio is following you around and hel never leave your party. You can take him all the way until the end.
Maybe the Electric interaction could've happened if somehow a Dark or Ruff Puff carried a Tasty Tonic, and charged themselves up?