Saved me spending well over a hundred dollars on a new vacuum. I couldn’t figure out where the thermal fuse was on my unit and then I watched your video. Luckily the set up on your vacuum is identical to the inside of mine. Very helpful video!! Thanks!
Luckily I had a Shop Vac too. Probably was an older model but similar enough. My fuse location was much different but finally identified it. I'm not well versed in electrical motors beyond high school theory. Used my old multi-tester checking continuity from on /off switch to various points with confusing results, finally concluding the problem was probably in the fuse and not the switch. Installed a 15w auto fuse per the video example. My fuse was a newer narrow model but managed to work. Contrary to video I immediately plugged into power and nearly scared myself to death because the switch inadvertently was ON and motor started spinning all over the table! Bottom line, I reassembled everything and am very pleased with the result. Thanks for the video.
Ryan...Thanks so much for a quick NO-Nonsense approach to fix this thing..mine died in the middle of what I was doing and figured there had to be something i probably should look at ...I couldn't find a obvious fuse....thanks to you I know what to do now....many thanks frankie
Thank you so much for this fix!!! Saved me $100 as I was on my way to buy a new one but decided to do a quick search for a fix. In my case, the little plastic housing for the fuse was melted and decayed so I had to Macgyver it a bit but it worked!!
Ryan- this video was very helpful. Press fit(and then added a touch of solder) a fuse into place and it worked perfectly. You provided an excellent explanation and visuals. My fuse and the press-fit mechanism that held the fan in place was a bit different but the actual fix was genius. Thanks so much!
FOLLOW UP: Stopped by harbor freight and picked up a cheap $5 set of torx bits. After taking it apart I found a broke/burnt wire connector. Respliced it and WaLah!! It works again! Lol. thanks for the advice!
I can’t thank you enough, man. I just used this video to fix my ShopVac. Mine has a 12amp motor, so I used a 20amp fuse. Otherwise, the process was very similar to what you showed. Zip tied it in there like you said. It’s working again! Liked and Subscribed.
Thanks for your video. Very helpful. Do this at your own risk but I installed a new thermal cutoffs fuse rated at 10 amps 250V 121 Degree C (SF119E-121C) in the fuse holder. I had to drill a larger hole in the holder to accommodate this new fuse. Also, the fuse ends had to be connected to the copper wires outside the fuse holder. My unit is rated at 8.4 amps so 10 amps might be a little tight. After some research on the WEB, the 121°C seems to be a good value.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge. My wall mount shop vac died today , exactly as you described. I swapped the failed thermal fuse with another fuse and it’s back up and running. It must of overheated from the clogged filter, it’s all clean now so it should be good but I will try to find a thermal fuse to swap that later as some of the other comments suggested.
This is called knowing enough to be dangerous. It isn't the amperage that is most important here, it is truely the temperature at which the fuse opens up. Doing this modification bypasses a safety feature.
Hey. So I appreciated the video very much as well. Extremely thorough too I love that. I still have not got mine fully resurrected yet. My issue is that i was running it hard one day and it was sounding tired (2.5Gal Craftsman ShopVac with 2.5HP), so after it started to smell like electrical fire or just plastic, I tore it apart and it seems as if the motor must have vibrated itself loose causing the mounting bolts to back oiut an the motor spun 180 deg at least. I mounted the motor back in and went to try and plug it and test before reassembling the whole thing again. It looked like a lightning storm inside. I quicky cut power and unmounted it. The thermal fuse appeared burnt out and tested that way as well. I just bypassed that and wired it direct. HAS ANYOE ELSE NOTICED THAT WUERE GROUND WIRE IS TERMIMATED????? ITS UNDER THE MOUNTING BRACKET FOR THE MOTOR USING THE SAME SCREW THAT HOLDS THE MOTOR MOUNTING BRACKET IN PLASE. THE WIERD PART TO ME IS THAT ON EITHER THE SAME SIDE OR THE OPPOSITE SIDE THERE IS A TRIANGLE SHAPED LUG THAT IS PART OF THE MOUNTING BFACKET ITSELF AND EVEN HAS A GROUNDING SYMBOL ON IT. YET NOTHING IS CONNEDTED TO IT. Sorry for yelling so long in the previous paragraph. my mind is s uc somewhere else. Can you tell me if it matters which wire from the motor goes to what position on the switch. Tested again and it is still sparking. where else the sparks might be co or what todo next to finish. I need my shop vac back up and working badly. THANKS in advance. Erik
Thank you SO much for this... I may have been able to diagnose the switch on my shop vac, but I wouldn't have known about the coupler/fuse without this video. How did we manage before youtube?
Was that a home-made filter or is that the way it's supposed to be? A neighbor had one of those sitting out for trash pick-up and saw me looking at it, then yelled from her door, "It works, it just needs a new filter". I took the lid off and didn't see any filter. It's a Shop Vac SL14-300A. Thanks in advance for any comment.
What happen was I was vaccummind and a bed sheet got suctiouned up. Just part way maybe 2 feet and I shut it off right away less then 30 seconds. Now it won't start I really need to use it
Well heck, I don’t think I need my husband for this. Thank you! May I ask what that long black tool is called that you used the star but for? I need one of those. Thanks
I’m started disassembling my craftsman shop vac but I’m missing the T15 torx bit. Hello eBay. I’ll see if this works when I get the bit in the mail. Thanks for the video.
Gm Ryan. I'm a retired lady, in the middle of a DIY remodel. I needed a shopvac and (praying) there it was left at the dumpster in my 55+ park. Its a Shopvac wet/dry 2.5hp 10 gal model 5025. It works great but needs bags, filter, the filter retainer cap(?)and the nozzle end accessories. Can you direct me on where to buy these for this older model. Are the filter and bags universal like sewing machine parts are? I'm a quilter off on a new adventure. I don't know what I don't know. lol Your help would be greatly appreciated. TYIA.
Hey! Here is Shop Vac's website ( www.shopvac.com/pages/official-shop-vac-filter-guide). Some of the parts are universal and some are not. There are many online part stores that can provide you with compatible parts. Here is a website that I found with parts in stock for that model: www.appliancefactoryparts.com/vacuumcleaners/shop-vac/5025.html Hope that helps. God bless!
found heavy blockage but cant get it to run i changed the .22uf 250volt cap that conect to windings test windings they good brushes are good swicth seems good now that you shown this fuse im gona have a look again i did not see that
@@rutterrealtygc it has a small gray cup, looks like a spray can lid inside the little cage, it goes up and down freely, i don't know what made the loud noise... i don't think there ever was a ball like most shop vacs...
So you still keep the thermal fuse that came in it you just add a 15amp fuse to it I didn't see you remove a old fuse and discard it is that correct? Thanks
That automotive fuse is not a thermal fuse. It will only blow when the current melts its internal wire. A thermal fuse will blow when the vacuum motor overheats, which is going to happen at a much lower temperature. It probably won't catch on fire before it blows, but you will burn the varnish insulation off the motor windings, destroying it.
I’d say, it is either a really old shop vacuum or you haven’t found the fuse yet. I think they all have a fuse for safety. To answer your question though, I don’t know.🤷♂️
I did this and it's been working on and off. It often stops working and I have to reopen it and tweak the fuse. Not sure why because the contact is good
Sounds like the fuse isn’t seated correctly, but maybe there’s another issue such as overheating? You can bring it to a license and insured repair shop.🤷♂️
lol! If you learn how to fix things then you can keep using them and produce less garbage. lol I agree that manufacturers create things to break so that you can purchase more though. :)
Was that a 12 volt automotive fuse? I contacted Shopvac and asked if they provide an OEM replacement for that thermal fuse. They said no, buy a new powerhead. A "regular" fuse will protect against overcurrent but this fuse is a thermal fuse meant to open if the temp gets too high. As a DIYer I would be ok using a regular fuse but in reality we should try to use a thermal fuse. There is a video here on YT where a guy wires in a 121ºC thermal fuse in to the line. He doesn't put it right where the old one was, he just bridges that connection. And then just puts the fuse in line. Here it is: ruclips.net/video/F2BeXxrusEg/видео.html
Wow are you sure this is the right thing to do? Are you an electrician... if no not, I recommend caution here, this looks like a DC surge protection fuse for a car. This is not an AC thermal fuse. It looks like a good idea and probably better then just bypassing the fuse. But the rating is not the same going from DC to AC. You can probably do it but you have to know what you're doing. Plus this is still not a thermal protection. Thermal protection is their for a good reason don't you think!
Mine just makes a good awful sound and it gets really hot. I have it apart right now. I don't think a fuse is the problem. It turns on, it just screams in agony. I even apologized to it.... 🫤
Saved me spending well over a hundred dollars on a new vacuum. I couldn’t figure out where the thermal fuse was on my unit and then I watched your video. Luckily the set up on your vacuum is identical to the inside of mine. Very helpful video!! Thanks!
Awesome! Glad it helped!
Luckily I had a Shop Vac too. Probably was an older model but similar enough. My fuse location was much different but finally identified it. I'm not well versed in electrical motors beyond high school theory. Used my old multi-tester checking continuity from on /off switch to various points with confusing results, finally concluding the problem was probably in the fuse and not the switch. Installed a 15w auto fuse per the video example. My fuse was a newer narrow model but managed to work. Contrary to video I immediately plugged into power and nearly scared myself to death because the switch inadvertently was ON and motor started spinning all over the table! Bottom line, I reassembled everything and am very pleased with the result. Thanks for the video.
😬 Glad you didn’t get hurt! Be careful!!
Good show! Im giving it another go tomorrow! Its not even the $ anymore. THIS IS PERSONAL !!! 🤣😅
😂
Ryan...Thanks so much for a quick NO-Nonsense approach to fix this thing..mine died in the middle of what I was doing and figured there had to be something i probably should look at ...I couldn't find a obvious fuse....thanks to you I know what to do now....many thanks frankie
Glad it helped!😊👍
Crazy I was one day away from throwing my vac away and I tried this step by step and it worked 100 %
Awesome!👍😁
My final result, ended up " 7 separated pieces, in the trash!" 😂
😆 The good news is, you’re not in a worse place than when you started... if it was already broken. 😁
Stop...ur scurring me ! Lol
🤣😂😅
Thank you so much for this fix!!! Saved me $100 as I was on my way to buy a new one but decided to do a quick search for a fix. In my case, the little plastic housing for the fuse was melted and decayed so I had to Macgyver it a bit but it worked!!
Awesome! Glad it helped you out!
Thanks Ryan, first time viewer, your fix for the thermal fuse was spot on. Won’t be a stranger. Thanks again
Thanks for the comment!👍😊
Ryan- this video was very helpful. Press fit(and then added a touch of solder) a fuse into place and it worked perfectly. You provided an excellent explanation and visuals. My fuse and the press-fit mechanism that held the fan in place was a bit different but the actual fix was genius. Thanks so much!
Thanks! Glad it worked well for you!
Thanks for keeping it short and to the point. Fixed my small 3gal that shop vac doesn't make any more.
Awesome!
FOLLOW UP: Stopped by harbor freight and picked up a cheap $5 set of torx bits. After taking it apart I found a broke/burnt wire connector. Respliced it and WaLah!! It works again! Lol. thanks for the advice!
Awesome!! Glad it works!!
You mean "Viola"😂
@@pcaito857 voila ;)
I can’t thank you enough, man. I just used this video to fix my ShopVac. Mine has a 12amp motor, so I used a 20amp fuse. Otherwise, the process was very similar to what you showed. Zip tied it in there like you said. It’s working again! Liked and Subscribed.
Awesome! Congrats!
Thanks for your video. Very helpful. Do this at your own risk but I installed a new thermal cutoffs fuse rated at 10 amps 250V 121 Degree C (SF119E-121C) in the fuse holder. I had to drill a larger hole in the holder to accommodate this new fuse. Also, the fuse ends had to be connected to the copper wires outside the fuse holder. My unit is rated at 8.4 amps so 10 amps might be a little tight. After some research on the WEB, the 121°C seems to be a good value.
Okay.👍
I just added a 30 amp car fuse...works great. THANK YOU
Glad yours works great!
Fantastic video 🎉❤. I appreciate you sharing this, @RyanRutter. I will now return the third and still boxed shop vac I no longer need. Cheers!!!
Glad that it helped!😊👍
Thanks for sharing the knowledge. My wall mount shop vac died today , exactly as you described. I swapped the failed thermal fuse with another fuse and it’s back up and running. It must of overheated from the clogged filter, it’s all clean now so it should be good but I will try to find a thermal fuse to swap that later as some of the other comments suggested.
Good deal!👍
This is called knowing enough to be dangerous. It isn't the amperage that is most important here, it is truely the temperature at which the fuse opens up. Doing this modification bypasses a safety feature.
Getting the correct fuse replacement is definitely the best way to go!
Dang! I’m trying this right now! Thank you
Best of luck! Be careful!
Hey. So I appreciated the video very much as well. Extremely thorough too I love that. I still have not got mine fully resurrected yet. My issue is that i was running it hard one day and it was sounding tired (2.5Gal Craftsman ShopVac with 2.5HP), so after it started to smell like electrical fire or just plastic, I tore it apart and it seems as if the motor must have vibrated itself loose causing the mounting bolts to back oiut an the motor spun 180 deg at least. I mounted the motor back in and went to try and plug it and test before reassembling the whole thing again. It looked like a lightning storm inside. I quicky cut power and unmounted it. The thermal fuse appeared burnt out and tested that way as well. I just bypassed that and wired it direct. HAS ANYOE ELSE NOTICED THAT WUERE GROUND WIRE IS TERMIMATED????? ITS UNDER THE MOUNTING BRACKET FOR THE MOTOR USING THE SAME SCREW THAT HOLDS THE MOTOR MOUNTING BRACKET IN PLASE. THE WIERD PART TO ME IS THAT ON EITHER THE SAME SIDE OR THE OPPOSITE SIDE THERE IS A TRIANGLE SHAPED LUG THAT IS PART OF THE MOUNTING BFACKET ITSELF AND EVEN HAS A GROUNDING SYMBOL ON IT. YET NOTHING IS CONNEDTED TO IT. Sorry for yelling so long in the previous paragraph. my mind is s uc somewhere else. Can you tell me if it matters which wire from the motor goes to what position on the switch. Tested again and it is still sparking. where else the sparks might be co or what todo next to finish. I need my shop vac back up and working badly. THANKS in advance.
Erik
😬🤷♂️ it might be time for a new one…😆
Ty man i just saved 100$ ! Bad switch for me
Awesome!👍
I have same problem as video show, thanks for good video.
Thanks for the comment!👍😊
Thank you SO much for this... I may have been able to diagnose the switch on my shop vac, but I wouldn't have known about the coupler/fuse without this video. How did we manage before youtube?
lol! No clue how we managed!
Was that a home-made filter or is that the way it's supposed to be? A neighbor had one of those sitting out for trash pick-up and saw me looking at it, then yelled from her door, "It works, it just needs a new filter". I took the lid off and didn't see any filter. It's a Shop Vac SL14-300A. Thanks in advance for any comment.
The filter was not homemade. It came with my vacuum.👍😊
Hi a friend gave me a shopvac..but it makes a shrill noise..or should I grease it so the noise is normal? Thanks for your video
Good video! Was that a car fuse ?
Yes, it was
What happen was I was vaccummind and a bed sheet got suctiouned up. Just part way maybe 2 feet and I shut it off right away less then 30 seconds. Now it won't start I really need to use it
Awesome name! Maybe it overheated and blew the thermal fuse?🤷♂️
Well heck, I don’t think I need my husband for this. Thank you! May I ask what that long black tool is called that you used the star but for? I need one of those. Thanks
Just a bit extension. 👍
0:40 😳
Worlds longest screwdriver. 😂
Must be a 480V electrical screwdriver to keep a safe distance between you and the electric source. 😁
😆 It was an extension so I could undo the screws with my drill.😊
I’m started disassembling my craftsman shop vac but I’m missing the T15 torx bit. Hello eBay. I’ll see if this works when I get the bit in the mail. Thanks for the video.
Harbor freight has a great set for cheap, fyi 😊 (if you have one close to you).
@@rutterrealtygc yep, that’s the ones I bought. $5 bits are a lot cheaper than a new vacuum.
Thank you ,I did not check the fuse .✌️
You’re welcome! I hope it fixes the issue for you!!😁
What settings did you use on the ammeter to check the fuse and the switch? I bought one but I don’t how to use the various functions?
Are you talking about the multimeter? I used volts.
Yes
Which settings or markings do you use on the multimeter?
Gm Ryan. I'm a retired lady, in the middle of a DIY remodel. I needed a shopvac and (praying) there it was left at the dumpster in my 55+ park. Its a Shopvac wet/dry 2.5hp 10 gal model 5025. It works great but needs bags, filter, the filter retainer cap(?)and the nozzle end accessories. Can you direct me on where to buy these for this older model. Are the filter and bags universal like sewing machine parts are? I'm a quilter off on a new adventure. I don't know what I don't know. lol Your help would be greatly appreciated. TYIA.
Hey! Here is Shop Vac's website ( www.shopvac.com/pages/official-shop-vac-filter-guide). Some of the parts are universal and some are not. There are many online part stores that can provide you with compatible parts. Here is a website that I found with parts in stock for that model: www.appliancefactoryparts.com/vacuumcleaners/shop-vac/5025.html Hope that helps. God bless!
Great job!
Thanks for the comment!👍😊
found heavy blockage but cant get it to run i changed the .22uf 250volt cap that conect to windings test windings they good brushes are good swicth seems good now that you shown this fuse im gona have a look again i did not see that
Good deal! I hope you get it fixed!
turns out that the new cap i bought was a dud.....
Opened my shopvac (ArmorAll) and it looks nothing like this one. No idea what's what and everything is covered in drywall dust :(
😬
Mine made a loud noise sucking up water.. now it won't suck or blow out yet the motor runs. Any idea why ?
There is a little “float” that goes up and down… it may be stuck in the up position. Mine was gray.
@@rutterrealtygc it has a small gray cup, looks like a spray can lid inside the little cage, it goes up and down freely, i don't know what made the loud noise... i don't think there ever was a ball like most shop vacs...
@@rutterrealtygc is there a way to open it up and see whats inside ? the motors running but it sounds different..
So you still keep the thermal fuse that came in it you just add a 15amp fuse to it I didn't see you remove a old fuse and discard it is that correct? Thanks
The old fuse burned up and was in two pieces. For best results, you can order a new thermal fuse off-line.
I would have checked to see if it works way before putting it back together.
You can do this. Just make sure the motor is secure and you’re not touching anything!😁
Fuse link not available anymore D:
www.amazon.com/Thermal-Fuse-121-Degrees-Celsius/dp/B00FAW1V9W this is what the original looked like…
Thank you brother
Yeah man! I hope that helped!
Great Job.
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you!
👍😊
mine is smoking so for sure it's the motor... I just need to know where to get one... 10 gallon 4.0 amp
I do not know… it might be time for a new one.😬
Awesome video!
That automotive fuse is not a thermal fuse. It will only blow when the current melts its internal wire. A thermal fuse will blow when the vacuum motor overheats, which is going to happen at a much lower temperature. It probably won't catch on fire before it blows, but you will burn the varnish insulation off the motor windings, destroying it.
Definitely should go back with the original thermal fuse. The automotive fuse will buy you some time until you can get the thermal fuse in the mail.
What happens when it smells like smoke?
Not sure... you can always bring it to a professional to help troubleshoot it!
@@rutterrealtygcwe figured out the problem
@josephinesybers9981 what was it?
@@gogadgothere was something stuck in between the blades for the motor and it was causing a small fire. Every time we turned it off no fire.
What if it does not have a fuse like one shown
I’d say, it is either a really old shop vacuum or you haven’t found the fuse yet. I think they all have a fuse for safety. To answer your question though, I don’t know.🤷♂️
I swear I've watched 5 videos not one has identified the issue. My sucking cup sticks and when that happens it gets loud and won't suck.
I haven’t had that happen yet... if I figure it out I’ll post a video!
I did this and it's been working on and off. It often stops working and I have to reopen it and tweak the fuse. Not sure why because the contact is good
Sounds like the fuse isn’t seated correctly, but maybe there’s another issue such as overheating? You can bring it to a license and insured repair shop.🤷♂️
@@rutterrealtygc repair would probably cost far more than buying a new one 🤣
Yup my bag was full
Been there, done that!😆
Everything in our society is built to break. What a big collection of garbage we have. This whole society should be thrown into the garbage.
lol! If you learn how to fix things then you can keep using them and produce less garbage. lol I agree that manufacturers create things to break so that you can purchase more though. :)
Was that a 12 volt automotive fuse? I contacted Shopvac and asked if they provide an OEM replacement for that thermal fuse. They said no, buy a new powerhead. A "regular" fuse will protect against overcurrent but this fuse is a thermal fuse meant to open if the temp gets too high. As a DIYer I would be ok using a regular fuse but in reality we should try to use a thermal fuse. There is a video here on YT where a guy wires in a 121ºC thermal fuse in to the line. He doesn't put it right where the old one was, he just bridges that connection. And then just puts the fuse in line. Here it is: ruclips.net/video/F2BeXxrusEg/видео.html
You can get the correct fuse, but you just have to wait for it to ship.👍😊
@@rutterrealtygc Where can you get the correct fuse?
Wow are you sure this is the right thing to do? Are you an electrician... if no not, I recommend caution here, this looks like a DC surge protection fuse for a car. This is not an AC thermal fuse. It looks like a good idea and probably better then just bypassing the fuse. But the rating is not the same going from DC to AC. You can probably do it but you have to know what you're doing. Plus this is still not a thermal protection. Thermal protection is their for a good reason don't you think!
Definitely should contact a licensed electrician. I’m just showing you how I got mine to work in a pinch.👍
Or no fuse at all
I’ve never seen one without a fuse. 🤷♂️
@@rutterrealtygc I have a vacmaster vp205 if can find it let me know 🤷🏾♂️
Fuck all that. I'll just buy a new one.
Do what you gotta do! :)
Mine just makes a good awful sound and it gets really hot. I have it apart right now. I don't think a fuse is the problem. It turns on, it just screams in agony. I even apologized to it.... 🫤
😂 Maybe the float valve is stuck?