Not having to do anything with wood working, but the video format is amazing. Easy, immediatly down to the point, demonstration, budget alternatives... great expirience!
I bought a pool vacuum hose for my shop vac and it works great. The extra length makes life so much better. Plus I can sometimes put the vac outside when using it and the noise reduction in the work area is a win.
This is what I use as well! They can be found dirt cheap and you can leave the canister next to the outlet and reach all the corners. Winding it up can be a pain though. I need a better system for that.
Thank you for validating what I'm already doing. Really, I appreciate it. In addition, I use a cyclone style separator which means my bag has never filled. Ever. I do have to empty a five gallon bucket fairly often, however. I've also gone over the seals, especially around the top of my Craftsman vac, and added a layer of bicycle tube rubber. I'm sure I still have some small leaks in my system, but the suction has been greatly enhanced. To finish it off, I made a fan dust collector. It uses two 20x20 perpendicularly mounted air filters and works great by collecting what dust escapes and gets in the air. Oh yeah, there's still the KN95 facemask, too. Stay safe and have fun.
Thank you for the tutorial video. I live in a 30ft travel trailer while remodel my childhood home after my parents passed. By the way , my best friend lives with me. She's a half Aussie and Blue healer and of the crazy things she hates my smaller vacs but comes running when I get the shop vac out. She paws at me until I give her the once over with the shop vac and then off she goes 😅
My Golden is the same, plus he loves to be blown with air nozzle from the air compressor. He gets blown every day after walk, mostly to dry him off from swimmin in the creek. And even if he doesn't get wet he still requires a blow.
Thank you for the tip on getting the vacuum bags from Amazon and saving a good amount of money because I buy the bags from Home Depot. I'm a house painter and I use my shop vac to pick up sanding dust and the bag is really does help to minimize not only wear and tear on the vacuum and filter but also to keep the dust from blowing around as it gets sucked into the vacuum. When we skim coat the walls, I vacuum up the walls after sanding and there is much less dust on the walls as well.
Hands DOWN!! This is the BEST...advice pertaining to using a bag inside any shop vac!! I grind my fair share of concrete and a good bag does the trick. Seeing you re-use the bag and clamping it. OUTSTANDING!!🤓😺
I’ve added a pool skimmer sock to cover the pleated filter. It helps to keep much dust out of the pleats. I’m not sure about performance degradation but it seems to suck well. The socks are cheap compared to filters.
Great advice! I can attest to the bag tip. If you are not vacuuming up water always use a bag. It seems weird that the manufacturers don't harp on this because they could make more money selling bags, but it took a while for me to try it and what a difference.
@wayne_3791 You may have missed the part of the video where he showed that the airflow through the re-used bag was the same as through the new bag. That kind of indicates that there isn't any greater resistance and therefore no more load on the motor.
@wayne_3791I get your thought but if you were put an amp meter on the vacuum wire you would find that if you were to completely restrict the air flow you will find that the amp draw drops significantly because the motor has nothing to do but spin. Try it some time. I used to think the same way.
@wayne_3791 You are correct in that they are air cooled. I have 4 vacuums, 1 being RIDGID's 9 gal. cordless, but just to make sure I wasn't mistaken I looked at all 4 right now and all 4 of mine get air from a separate place otherwise the motor bearings would get damaged from all the particulates that make it by the filter in no time. In HVAC class our teacher showed us the amp readings so I'm just saying what I saw. Of course if an air cooled motor can't get air to cool it will over heat and shorten it's life. We're all trying to save money with the outrageous prices these days and trying to be more efficient while at it. People are just trying to be helpful and bounce ideas around, you don't need to get upset when someone shoots an idea, even if it's wrong.
A dust cyclone is an absolute game changer. I also empty my bag every month and blow it out with my blower. Saved me a fortune in bags. Great video btw! 👍👍
Love the fact that you are Canadian providing this information - too many US presenters forget our market is slightly different, especially when it comes to $!
I did construction cleaning and my vacuum was probably my best kept tool. Always used bags and attachments (hoses,nozzles, and collector)always got washed especially after the drywall guys got done sanding. You could borrow just about any tools I used (did punchlists too) except my vacuum.
I use the size 1 and 1/0 Mustad hooks to freeline for snook ruclips.net/user/postUgkxzXmlErSqVAEGWFEKO530BvTqFDw53QW3 and they have been fantastic. The points are super sharp, and the hook is small enough to blend with my baitfish, yet large enough to land fish 30" or more. I also use these hooks when I'm pier or surf fishing with my kids. They tend to catch tons of smaller snapper, whiting, and catfish, and we get far fewer gut hooks with these Mustad in-lines, which means more of them survive after release. I was actually using these hooks when I caught my friend too, but I think that had more to do with the bait I was using ;-)
Another tip for everyone out there is that a pool vacuum hose is the same as that $100+ hose. The ends and attachments are also sold at Home Depot and fit a pool hose. And pool hoses are long af not just 10ft
I've watched many videos on RUclips of people telling you how to save money with your shop back. you my friend are 100% correct . I also love how you didn't mention about cutting the bag for the rigid vacuum Lol. I tried it and it was a mess Lol. also a better way of being gentle with your filter is actually buying two filters and have them in rotation. When 1 filter gets dirty simply swap the filter , when you have time take the other home and wash it in your laundry sink and let it dry . comes out much cleaner and lasts much longer .
Maybe I am wrong, but I was under the impression that those Rigid filters are not designed to get wet. Ive always removed the filter when using it as a wet-vac, since that was the way I was taught.
@@Thumbsdwn they're not designed to be used when vacuuming something wet ... That's why I said have two filters in rotation . so after you wash one, you can set it aside let it dry for a few days and use the other filter & repeat. But there are specifically designed wet filters which save your vacuum motor.
I have that same Ridgid. I build a cart with a cyclone pre-separator. It works AWESOME. I also added power strips & lighting to the cart so I only plug one thing in and it becomes a mobile dust, light, & power station.
Great tips. I've been using a cyclone separator to keep my filters clean. The negative about the cyclone separators is the need of a separate container for the dust, which then you need a cart to move container and vacuum around the shop. Regarding the bag, the negative, is buying bags regularly, which wind up in the land fill. Cloth bag seems to be the best compromise. When the cloth bag after multiple uses finally gives up, it then becomes a rag for wiping up spills.
Hey you should Look into the mod for seating your dust collector above the vacuum. It seems to be a lesser known but very effective and easy modification. I will be doing this to my vacuum.
Great video . I added a goodwill pillow case to the exhaust and a pipe clamp . Been using the same rig for 25 plus years. I do use the gortex washable filter. Give the pillow case option a measured try for one of your "short" videos :)
Great video. I'll have to try these. I've been wrapping my filter in paper towels and that seems to work for me. The filters never get dirty. When I'm done using it, I just kick the can and everything falls off the towel and into the container. Works great.
I have been using several iterations of the Milwaukee vacuum (1st and 2nd gen M18, Fuel M12 and pack out M18). They come with the same filter and no bags, I have been banging out the filter when it has noticeably less suction. No issues with exhaust dust, so lucky there. Just started on Hilti Nuron and their vacuum comes with a bag that I immediately pulled out, and then the filter clogged really quickly so just learned all of the things in this video, thank you.
Good reaffirming info. Very practical and down to earth. With a shared car use - garage workshop, trying to keep dust down is key. I converted a 2 tier cart into my portable dust collection with the Rigid contractor style vac on top with the blue filter and vac bag connected to the Rockler Dust Rite dust separator below with the 10 ft Rigid vac flex hose you show as well. Whatever non-contaminated, i. e. only solid wood dust I don't vac or sweep up, I use a leaf blower and blow everything out the garage door which allows ne to keep items hanging on the wall or in various nooks and crannies much cleaner than a typical garage.
My World has evolved to the point where I am now using shop vacs and I see where I shall be using them more. This excellent advice comes at the precise right time for me. Thank YOU, ...and the RUclips algorithm.
I’ve been using the yellow drywall filters for my 16 gal Sop Vac, vacs for years. They are heavier duty and designed for finer dust. I also keep the pleated filter installed, and they hardly ever need cleaning. And as you said, they are expensive. I tried using the Home Depo separators with them, and for sanding they worked very good, but were sadly bad when hooked to my DeWalt contractor saw. I also bought the Oneida separator that sits in too of my Festool Vac. That thing is awesome. Btw, because of this video, I am now a subscriber to your channel. 😊
I used one of those little Rigid vacs at work over a decade ago and fell in love. Bought one on my way home. Thing still works like an absolute BEAST anytime I plug it in.
Thanks for a very informative and helpful video, sincerely! I went an additional step and took the only bag I have for my ho-hum DeWALT wet or dry vacuum, that was soon discontinued... So I took the only bag to a nearby sewing shop, and asked them to put a clothes zipper at its bottom, so that when woodworking, most of the medium to fine dust can be emptied along with the coarse shavings from my electric hand plane, and reused. The Tyvec® like cloth has endured many cleanings and still works fine. But the vacuum is only 9 gallon size, and its relatively small pleated filter causes a somewhat high pressure drop and the resulting drop in air flow... So I will try to get a larger bottom can, or perhaps making it from another kind of cans, to make a larger filter and save the motor and fan, that work well and are powerful having 1,400 watts at 120 VAC.
I second using the dust bags. They work great and can last quite a while before youd have to beat out the filter otherwise. Always thought about resealing them but never tried it. The binder clips are a great idea. If it doesnt end up holding its still in the vac with a filter so no big deal.
I use my shop vac mainly in my woodshop and I use it in conjunction with a dust deputy, of course it was my dad's craftsman shop vac and it wasn't built for a filter bag, I was able to modify it and installed a hepa filter too. I mainly use the filter bag and hepa filter to catch the fine dust.
No mention of a cyclone separator. I use an Oneida Dust Deputy that keeps my vacuum close to dust free. I did install a HEPA filter nonetheless. There are other cyclones available too from a variety of places. That would have been my tip #1.
Very glad someone has made a youtube video on the filter problems with shop vacs. I've made several suggestions to RIGID about how to improve their shop vacs, but doubt if they even care. In some ways, RIGID has disimproved their shop vacs. One problem is how they rate the gallon capacity. It's a meaningless designation, since for example, a 12 gallon RIGID shop vac could never vacuum up 12 gallons of water. The gallon capacity applies to the full size of the container. The proper way to designate gallon capacity should be to see how much water the vacuum can extract before the overfill valve blocks the vacuum air intake. A second problem, I have had both the older and the newer 12 gallon RIGID shop vacs. I've suggested to RIGID that they should design a square container, to make it easier to store and transport your vacuum. Since space is at a premium in work vehicles, this is a huge issue. I take the wheels off and leave them off so the vacuum takes up less room in my vehicle. The newer RIGID 12 gallon has rounded the bottom, which creates a stability problem vs. the older model, that had a flat bottom. A third problem is the ridiculous cost of the filters. I've seen a lot of people use these with no filter. Generally, it's employees of restaurants, who will not spend their own money to buy a filter for the restaurants vacuums. What I've done is take bar towels and wrap them around the filter frame, fastening it with a plastic wire tie. This works quite well, and you can pick up dirt or water and not worry about ruining an expensive filter.
I feel like looking for a higher quality filter immediately. Although I use an FFP2 mask anyway when using power tools, but like you noted in the video, the fine dust will remain behind on surfaces, so when I'm doing other stuff afterwards without the mask, some of the dust will inevitably rise into the air. Thanks for the advice!
Masks accumulate dust when not on your face. This goes DIRECTLY into you lungs. You CANNOT prevent this. Masks are an overlooked bad hazard but "good" business.
@@brucehansen7949 Since I'm walking outside regularly in any case, I'd rather not get the dust from both my workshop and from the traffic generated sources. Only one source is better than both sources.
@@brucehansen7949Especially where I live. It's always windy. At night with a flashlight you can see it clearly. Wish I could filter the outside air as well.
I have the exact Rigid vacuum used in the video. I had NEVER heard about using a bag, and I read directions faithfully. Placed my order - this is a game changer.
What an incredible tip on cutting a bag and clipping it…and getting more life from bags…brilliant tip! I own that same ridge vac and I’m using a drywall sander tomorrow! Haha. I’ve been looking for a better solution for small jobs and I like the idea of using bags.
100% agree, and thanks for Amazon tip on cheaper bags! I work in Facilities Maintenance at a school here in the Fraser Valley, create my own Facilities content on the RUclipss, and have one of the RIDGID vacuums (which are a great vacuum for the price) - but they get you on the bags (kind of like selling a printer for cheap but hosing you on ink refills!). I also always ask what someone needs to clean up when they come to me and want to borrow my vacuum, to make sure they aren't going to start sucking up water WITH the vacuum bag and filter, lol.
I use a cut off of a sweat paint leg over the filter and rubber bands to hold it on. ( ankle opening at the bottom ) One old sweat paints equal two pre-filters . This works well for me and the paper filter never gets completely plugged. The saw dust falls off the paint leg when the vacuum is off and it gets rolled around. Blowing it/ shaking it clean is easy.
I have a ridgid 12-gal vacuum. I put in a HEPA filter and HEPA bag about a year ago. It made a huge different in what comes out the exhaust. I also have a Dustopper paired with it. Very little gets into the vacuum and with the HEPA filter and bag, nothing seems to come out the exhaust. I know something does but it is virtually undetectable to me.
Mate, that's so valid, been working 35+ years, run with Festo heaps, costs a fortune over 12 units, need to look at real alternatives. Cheers, keep up the good work
Well, your are referring to HOW FINE filtration degree is the filter... But in some cases, getting the largest vacuum deposit can allow you to add more filters, modifying them to be able to stack them into a longer filter, to increase the total filtering area. That will reduce the pressure drop across the filters and also will cause the dirt to embede less deeply into the filters, making the cleaning much easier and faster.
Agreed, except don't forget that increasing the filter surface area (through any number of setups) can bring that suction right back up and even have BETTER suction and CFM and better filtration. It's often not considered and of course has practical limits but bigger filters always flow better.
@@zaedlo"industrial asthma" doesn't sound good. I worked around fumes and fine particles for decades. Now that I'm retired I have zero tolerance and crappy lungs..
You can also staple the bags shut, then cut off that half inch next time you empty it. Another tip is to cutout a strip from some cheap vacuum bags to staple into a cylinder to place over the filter, removes more dust from the air and makes the cleanup easier.
When I'm cutting wood in my garage (or in my back yard outside my garage), I hook up a cyclone dust separator inline with my shop vac. I use a small cyclone that's made by Makita and designed to attach to their upright vacuums, and I just run a hose from the intake to my tool and from the exhaust to my shop vac. I made a simple holder for it out of scrap plywood, and I put it in the holder and clamp it to my workbench. It captures probably 90% of the dust from my work. It's easy to open and dump out. I compost my food scraps, and I just dump the sawdust from my cyclone dust separator into my compost bucket when it's full. I use the cyclone + shop vac setup with my small job-site table saw, my miter saw, my circular saws, and my handheld router. I should probably create a better dust shroud eventually for my miter saw to capture more dust, and I probably need to use a combination of things (bigger dust cyclone, bigger hose, bigger shop vac, overhead secondary dust port, etc) to capture more dust from my table saw, but it's still way better than not capturing any dust at all. Using a cyclone dust separator greatly reduces the amount of dust that goes into my shop vac, which keeps the shop vac working efficiently and reduces the number of times that I need to clean my shop vac filter, which is way more tedious than opening up my cyclone, detaching the hose, dumping the saw dust into my compost bucket, and then hooking it back up.
My cyclone separator has worked so well I haven't even tried using a bag yet. Barely anything makes it into the vacuum. But that also means a bag would last a long time before emptying so maybe I should
I stumbled upon your video in my recommendations and was pleasantly surprised how much I learned. _(And yaayyyyy, go Canadian RUclipsrs!)_ My big takeaway was *using your shop vacuum for drywall dust!?* I've done only 'some' vacuuming of drywall dust over the years, and before buying a shop vacuum used my $2000. Filter Queen (and only about twice!), necessitating a motor replacement after that little bit of drywall dust suckage burnt it out. *So, I figured shop vacuums would be appropriate for drywall dust.* *_BZZZZZTT_* Nope. According to the subsequent 'research' I did online, drywall dust would apparently kill _any shop_ vacuum in short order too. So, I just.....left it. Never did my own drywall repairs again, and have assumed 'til now that drywall dust will kill any and every vacuum. Years ago someone told me drywallers apparently bought old, cheap shop vacuums at garage sales and simply used them a few months until they burnt out and then replaced them with another old one. I await any more insight you can share about drywall dust and the realities of vacuum lifespans sucking it up :)
If you've got a good filter it's fine, problem with the old ones is they use the stupid bag over the cage with the rubber band that would probably let small gravel through it
When I smoked cigarettes I accidentally sucked up a lit one. I immediately shut it down and took it apart most of the fire was concentrated on the filter so I threw it out in my back yard which was dirt. I had fun kicking it around as every time I did a decent size fireball would erupt from the fine sawdust! I never smoked around a vacuum cleaner again!
I just use the Dust Deputy 2.5 deluxe cyclone and rarely even have much make it to the shop vac and with that cyclone setup, I just dump out the 5 gallon bucket when it gets full, zero filters involved.
I have that same Rigid and I can't keep it from exhausting water out the back, even before it's full. I bought the exhaust filter for it which helps some, but it still sprays some water out through the filter.
If you only use it in the shop, I might also suggest adding a cyclone separator. I do a lot of woodwork, and almost nothing but the finest wood dust gets to my vacuum.
I just started using a cyclone but for some reason I get way too much dust in my vac. Maybe I have something placed wrong or the size of my hose is too small.
Tips 3 & 4 - Ligit!!! Spot On!!! Great Tips. He IS correct. I have a Rigid 16 Gallon 6.5 peak HP shop vac - and did check and purchased said vacuum Tent Bags....This Really works! Thanks, & Great Tips
Pro Tip- Get a few of the 20' long 2 1/2" hoses and connect them together to keep the vacuum OUTSIDE the house and let the fine stuff get close to nature! I have 3, 20' hoses and can do anything inside the house and never get the dust film anywhere.
@@larrybud It does, but its minimal. 90 degree turns slow it down more. I haven't had any problem picking up anything with 60 feet of hose and the Shop Vac outside the house.
You also remove heated or cooled air from the room if the vacuum cleaner is not inside the room. Maybe not a factor but with a big dist collector they can exchange all of the air in a 400 sq ft shop in about 3 minutes.
I purchased a synthetic material woven sleeve/sock that fits over the paper filter and is secured by a string. It was made by Rigid, ShopVac, or Sears. That was in the 1990s I forget the exact brand. It stops most of the debris that clogs yir filter, especially sawdust. You can hear the motor struggle when it starts to clog up. All I have to do is power the vacuum down and give it a few taps and shakes. The debris falls off of the filter and I just turn it back on. After a few times, I finally empty the barrel. The filter works much better and goes longer before I have to blow it out.
It makes a huge difference what type of shop vac you get regarding how much dust goes back out into the air through its exhaust. At a large model railroad at a museum, we found that the usual cheapie shop vac (like from Sears) put a lot of dust into the air. (It settles back down on track and trains then don't operate well.) But a Dewalt DCV581H with VASTLY better filtering (bought in 2016) puts almost no dust into the air.
Great video. Concise and full of useful information. When I first started doing home projects I did not use bags then I tried vacuuming up after I sanded a bunch of drywall compound and spat all the dust back into the room 😂 From that day on, bags for me.
Thank you for the bag information. The bags are very expensive and I live in the antelope Valley in California. Last time I picked up a package of two I paid $20 for it.
I had to teach my grandfather, who has been doing drywall for 30 YEARS to use vacuum bags. They really save your vacuum life. And I include the price of a vacuum bag and filter in my estimates, that way I know for certain I'm not going to get dust all over my customers house.
Thanks a lot, and especially for setting up a test with a air quality meter. It is very easy to say "use this, don't use that", but what's good in it if there's no proof? With meter data, it is very clear that those cheap filters, in fact, still require you to wear a mask in a workshop!
Wow. I thought this video was going to be sort of a joke. Great suggestions overall. It's too bad they don't have a reusable bag designed for rigid with a zipper at the end or something. A lot of time I am just sucking up sawdust which is good for gardens or just dumping and doesn't need to go in the trash. The binder clip idea is interesting.
I’ve had a Festool CT36 for 10 years. It works great. I added the Bluetooth remote. I try to reuse the bags when I vacuum sawdust/mdf. I definitely discard them when I vacuum concrete. Yes! I use it sometimes with a 5” concrete grinder a it works great. I replaced the filter last year because accidentally the bag wasn’t installed properly and the filter got full of concrete. Thank you the tip of cutting the bags at the bottom
I've been re-using my festool bag for years and thought I was the only one haha but I like how you did it better with the binder clips than how I did it. Unfortunately, I've butchered my bag to the point that clips wont work... but maybe I can figure something out. Thanks! Good tips!
@@WhewLads thanks for the adice but I actually cut a flap (like a hack idiot) and have been taping the flap closed every time but the tape gets coverd in sawdust so I have to rip it off which doing like 20 times has really damaged the bag itself. It's a mess... lol but it works good as new every time I patch it up so, it is what it is haha. I know better for next time!
Well, when I started working in carpentry some over 40 years ago, wasn’t a big emphasis on dust collection or dust in the air and protecting yourself from it but now much older have been trying to be a lot more conscientious. One problem with all dust, collecting systems is a lack of uniformity in the sizes of hose and how they connect to gather!
It's a gimmick, designed with limited lifespan and with reoccurring revenue built in. Why else would one have to upgrade a hose and filter on a new vacuum? They're all 💩 but some people have more dollars than sense.
I find the Bosch system a good compromise for size adaptability and cost. It's a big initial outlay but I like the quick switch connectors as I switch from tracksaw, power planer, and belt sander constantly. I also have regular shop vac for the tablesaw and miter saw with a switching box I made. Two holes in, one hole out to the vac. The box had a sliding baffle with one hole that closes one port and opens another in one movement. I use these two systems everyday on the job. Also getting close to 40 years in the business.
There's an article by pro tools that suggests for dust collectors and extractors if using a bigger hose the suction drops. Suction gets the air moving, CFM keeps it moving. That's why dust extractors come with a 1-1.5 inch hose to keep the suction high and pull decent CFM numbers.
I added a 90 degree pvc pipe on the exhaust hole of my Ridgid vac. In my small shop the air coming out the exhaust often blew things around such as papers or any light weight item on a low shelf. The 2" 90 just aims the exhaust toward the floor.
The only possible comment I can think to add is that the bag lining is in part, a kind of disposable filter so while you can re-use them over time effiency will drop off as the pores in the bag get clogged :)
I’ve been re-using my filter bags just as shown in the video, but I’ve always wondered about the pores clogging after multiple uses, just as you say. He says he’s emptied his 15 times. I wouldn’t go more than about ten times
Thanks buddy, definitely a dream come true. I never ended up making too much in my family garage workshop. It was always disheartening spending 4 hours moving everything out of the way.
Spring steel clips. I’ve been doing the exact same thing with my filter bags to re-use them. After the first use I just unfurl the glued ends and dump out the contents, then roll the ends up a few times, and then clip them shut.
An option is to use a second hose to drive the exhaust outside, or use a long pool hose and place the entire vac outside while in use. My built in shop vac is exhausted to the outside.
Thanks for the tips on using bags. Will definitely look into it. I have a dust separator that works quite well. However, when connecting my sander to the separator the air velocity is so low that the dust makes it all the way into the shop vac. To combat that issue I've introduced air leaks into the hose that connects the sander to the system and it keeps the air flow up where finer dust gets separated from the air stream. BUT this means that only the finest dust can make its way into the shop vac. So your suggestion of heppa bags will likely catch the finest dust for me and will likely never make its way into the atmosphere. Oh, and I do have a whole shop air filtration system. It's mounted right above my main dust separator (Harbor Freight). The filter bag is notorious for leaking dust, so I put it right there. It's amazing how much dust it was taking out of the air. Since upgrading to a pleated canister filter air velocity is up and dust leakage is down so low that I haven't detected any indication of a dust leak whatsoever.
I can’t believe you didn’t mention a cyclone separator. Hands down the best thing you can do for your shop vac. Won’t need bags, either. Make yourself a nice cart stacking the vac and the cyclone bucket.
The cyclone does NOTHING to stop fine dust. I have one. Fine dust goes right on by. Only the heavier material separates. So the bag and filter is still the BEST way to go.
I've been using a bag for years it really does make a big difference. It keeps the filter cleaner longer and a lot less mess to throw out a bag instead of trying to dump out the vac into a trash can
Why eat glass, become a human vacuum and inhale. You don't have to buy from Home Depot. got Grainger and Lowes and ACE Hardware and Harbor Freight and Tractor Supply.
I saw a video some dude sat on a tall glass cup until it was all the up his ass, and then he clenched firmly. Amazingly, he made a diamond. Jp, glass broke and the remainder of the video he's pulling out glass shards with loads and loads of blood. I'm sure you've seen this video. No? "One man one jar". Google it. Check it out. You won't necessarily regret it.
I almost subscribed when I saw how much fun you were having playing with your "big hose" but then when I saw you break out the running man, I subscribed instantly!
I just bought that Ridgid hose at Home Depot a couple months ago and it was around $50. Just wanted to let you know cuz it's cheaper than the one on Amazon. Great videos , I love watching your channel. 👍😊
Sorry to be late to the party but I also put a "pool skimmer sock" on the filter in my 10gal shop vac. It seems to help the filter stay cleaner between cleanings.
I put 2'' of water in the bottom of the vacuum cleaner. It keeps most of the dust from going into the filter.
Worth a try ' thanks 😊
This is actually a pretty cool idea. I might give it a shot on my next project.
Therefore you cannot use a filter bag?
Your shop is so clean and organized, how can I trust you?
His vacuum works 😅
Beat me to it! 😂. His vac works soooooo well and that’s why he is believed
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Not having to do anything with wood working, but the video format is amazing. Easy, immediatly down to the point, demonstration, budget alternatives... great expirience!
I bought a pool vacuum hose for my shop vac and it works great. The extra length makes life so much better. Plus I can sometimes put the vac outside when using it and the noise reduction in the work area is a win.
Did the same.
This is what I use as well! They can be found dirt cheap and you can leave the canister next to the outlet and reach all the corners. Winding it up can be a pain though. I need a better system for that.
This guy recommended hoses that cost more than another shop vac. Lol
@@GrabLifeByDaPoosy I hope your comment wasn't directed towards me. I bought my 35' hose for $40 off eBay. Well worth the money.
@@31saint31 No I'm talking about in the video. One hose was over $100 and his cheaper alternative was still $65. For a shop vac hose? I'll pass lol
Another cyclone user here. Best thing I've done for dust control. I have them on my Shop Vac and dust collector.
Thank you for validating what I'm already doing. Really, I appreciate it. In addition, I use a cyclone style separator which means my bag has never filled. Ever. I do have to empty a five gallon bucket fairly often, however.
I've also gone over the seals, especially around the top of my Craftsman vac, and added a layer of bicycle tube rubber. I'm sure I still have some small leaks in my system, but the suction has been greatly enhanced.
To finish it off, I made a fan dust collector. It uses two 20x20 perpendicularly mounted air filters and works great by collecting what dust escapes and gets in the air.
Oh yeah, there's still the KN95 facemask, too.
Stay safe and have fun.
I set up a cyclonic separator about a year ago. The whole mess rides on a homemade cart.I haven't emptied the 16 gallon Craftsman wet/dry at all!
Exactly!
Holy smoke you are the vacuum master!!!! I thought I was a vacuum maniac but you make me look like a total nobody.
Nice tip about that cyclone style separator
Damn. Wish I would have found this channel sooner. Simple, to the point, and not a lot of the fluff that I can't stand in other videos. Awesome stuff.
Thanks you🍻
Thank you for the tutorial video. I live in a 30ft travel trailer while remodel my childhood home after my parents passed. By the way , my best friend lives with me. She's a half Aussie and Blue healer and of the crazy things she hates my smaller vacs but comes running when I get the shop vac out. She paws at me until I give her the once over with the shop vac and then off she goes 😅
My Golden is the same, plus he loves to be blown with air nozzle from the air compressor. He gets blown every day after walk, mostly to dry him off from swimmin in the creek. And even if he doesn't get wet he still requires a blow.
Thank you for the tip on getting the vacuum bags from Amazon and saving a good amount of money because I buy the bags from Home Depot. I'm a house painter and I use my shop vac to pick up sanding dust and the bag is really does help to minimize not only wear and tear on the vacuum and filter but also to keep the dust from blowing around as it gets sucked into the vacuum. When we skim coat the walls, I vacuum up the walls after sanding and there is much less dust on the walls as well.
Hands DOWN!! This is the BEST...advice pertaining to using a bag inside any shop vac!! I grind my fair share of concrete and a good bag does the trick. Seeing you re-use the bag and clamping it. OUTSTANDING!!🤓😺
I’ve added a pool skimmer sock to cover the pleated filter. It helps to keep much dust out of the pleats. I’m not sure about performance degradation but it seems to suck well. The socks are cheap compared to filters.
I bought a bag of those on Amazon for cheap and gave away several to friends and family for their shop vacs.
Same. Can attest, another game changer.
Great advice! I can attest to the bag tip. If you are not vacuuming up water always use a bag. It seems weird that the manufacturers don't harp on this because they could make more money selling bags, but it took a while for me to try it and what a difference.
@wayne_3791 You may have missed the part of the video where he showed that the airflow through the re-used bag was the same as through the new bag. That kind of indicates that there isn't any greater resistance and therefore no more load on the motor.
I think Wayne is a lobbyist from the Big Vacuum Bag industry.
@wayne_3791I get your thought but if you were put an amp meter on the vacuum wire you would find that if you were to completely restrict the air flow you will find that the amp draw drops significantly because the motor has nothing to do but spin. Try it some time. I used to think the same way.
@wayne_3791 You are correct in that they are air cooled. I have 4 vacuums, 1 being RIDGID's 9 gal. cordless, but just to make sure I wasn't mistaken I looked at all 4 right now and all 4 of mine get air from a separate place otherwise the motor bearings would get damaged from all the particulates that make it by the filter in no time.
In HVAC class our teacher showed us the amp readings so I'm just saying what I saw. Of course if an air cooled motor can't get air to cool it will over heat and shorten it's life.
We're all trying to save money with the outrageous prices these days and trying to be more efficient while at it. People are just trying to be helpful and bounce ideas around, you don't need to get upset when someone shoots an idea, even if it's wrong.
Wayne LaPierre just retired from the NRA@@tamill1 . Now we know what his new schtick is. He sucks.
A dust cyclone is an absolute game changer. I also empty my bag every month and blow it out with my blower. Saved me a fortune in bags. Great video btw! 👍👍
Sounds painful!
My cyclone goes into 2 stacked 6-gallon buckets. Most of the dust stays in the bottom bucket and practically no dust in the vacuum.
Love the fact that you are Canadian providing this information - too many US presenters forget our market is slightly different, especially when it comes to $!
If you think this is true then you are loonie.
I did construction cleaning and my vacuum was probably my best kept tool. Always used bags and attachments (hoses,nozzles, and collector)always got washed especially after the drywall guys got done sanding. You could borrow just about any tools I used (did punchlists too) except my vacuum.
I use the size 1 and 1/0 Mustad hooks to freeline for snook ruclips.net/user/postUgkxzXmlErSqVAEGWFEKO530BvTqFDw53QW3 and they have been fantastic. The points are super sharp, and the hook is small enough to blend with my baitfish, yet large enough to land fish 30" or more. I also use these hooks when I'm pier or surf fishing with my kids. They tend to catch tons of smaller snapper, whiting, and catfish, and we get far fewer gut hooks with these Mustad in-lines, which means more of them survive after release. I was actually using these hooks when I caught my friend too, but I think that had more to do with the bait I was using ;-)
Another tip for everyone out there is that a pool vacuum hose is the same as that $100+ hose. The ends and attachments are also sold at Home Depot and fit a pool hose. And pool hoses are long af not just 10ft
That tip with the Festool bags and using clips to hold it back together is gold. Thank you.
I've watched many videos on RUclips of people telling you how to save money with your shop back. you my friend are 100% correct . I also love how you didn't mention about cutting the bag for the rigid vacuum Lol. I tried it and it was a mess Lol.
also a better way of being gentle with your filter is actually buying two filters and have them in rotation. When 1 filter gets dirty simply swap the filter , when you have time take the other home and wash it in your laundry sink and let it dry . comes out much cleaner and lasts much longer .
Cheers buddy🍻
Maybe I am wrong, but I was under the impression that those Rigid filters are not designed to get wet. Ive always removed the filter when using it as a wet-vac, since that was the way I was taught.
@@Thumbsdwn they're not designed to be used when vacuuming something wet ... That's why I said have two filters in rotation . so after you wash one, you can set it aside let it dry for a few days and use the other filter & repeat. But there are specifically designed wet filters which save your vacuum motor.
@@Mteixeira91 okay, I guess my main question was if they can get wet at all, whether that being from wet vac usage or cleaning. Thanks!
@@Thumbsdwn: it says on the box to rinse them in water and let them dry.
I'm impressed - right to the point, yet well explained, and each claim is backed up with demonstrated proof! Well done
Thank you kindly
@The Funny Carpenter what is the measuring instrument?
I have that same Ridgid. I build a cart with a cyclone pre-separator. It works AWESOME. I also added power strips & lighting to the cart so I only plug one thing in and it becomes a mobile dust, light, & power station.
I'm in the process of making a separator myself... that'll really help with bulk sawdust like planing boards
Great tips. I've been using a cyclone separator to keep my filters clean. The negative about the cyclone separators is the need of a separate container for the dust, which then you need a cart to move container and vacuum around the shop. Regarding the bag, the negative, is buying bags regularly, which wind up in the land fill. Cloth bag seems to be the best compromise. When the cloth bag after multiple uses finally gives up, it then becomes a rag for wiping up spills.
Are you asserting the bags are NOT biodegradable? And where else do we put them?
Hey you should
Look into the mod for seating your dust collector above the vacuum. It seems to be a lesser known but very effective and easy modification. I will be doing this to my vacuum.
Great video . I added a goodwill pillow case to the exhaust and a pipe clamp . Been using the same rig for 25 plus years. I do use the gortex washable filter. Give the pillow case option a measured try for one of your "short" videos :)
I do the same with a towel. Amazing difference
I have a fine cotton sock.😀
Great video. I'll have to try these. I've been wrapping my filter in paper towels and that seems to work for me. The filters never get dirty. When I'm done using it, I just kick the can and everything falls off the towel and into the container. Works great.
Yes that works best with Bounty paper towels. I use the paper towels held in place with porch screen and some light bungee cord.
I have been using several iterations of the Milwaukee vacuum (1st and 2nd gen M18, Fuel M12 and pack out M18). They come with the same filter and no bags, I have been banging out the filter when it has noticeably less suction. No issues with exhaust dust, so lucky there. Just started on Hilti Nuron and their vacuum comes with a bag that I immediately pulled out, and then the filter clogged really quickly so just learned all of the things in this video, thank you.
Hilti might be better but they want silly money for it
I have M18 as well been a great wet /dry vac.
Will definitely try the bag idea
Not at all click bait, good job. One thing I have noticed with a wider hose is a reduction in noise which is an additional bonus.
Good reaffirming info. Very practical and down to earth. With a shared car use - garage workshop, trying to keep dust down is key. I converted a 2 tier cart into my portable dust collection with the Rigid contractor style vac on top with the blue filter and vac bag connected to the Rockler Dust Rite dust separator below with the 10 ft Rigid vac flex hose you show as well. Whatever non-contaminated, i. e. only solid wood dust I don't vac or sweep up, I use a leaf blower and blow everything out the garage door which allows ne to keep items hanging on the wall or in various nooks and crannies much cleaner than a typical garage.
My World has evolved to the point where I am now using shop vacs and I see where I shall be using them more. This excellent advice comes at the precise right time for me. Thank YOU, ...and the RUclips algorithm.
I’ve been using the yellow drywall filters for my 16 gal Sop Vac, vacs for years. They are heavier duty and designed for finer dust. I also keep the pleated filter installed, and they hardly ever need cleaning. And as you said, they are expensive. I tried using the Home Depo separators with them, and for sanding they worked very good, but were sadly bad when hooked to my DeWalt contractor saw. I also bought the Oneida separator that sits in too of my Festool Vac. That thing is awesome. Btw, because of this video, I am now a subscriber to your channel. 😊
I used one of those little Rigid vacs at work over a decade ago and fell in love.
Bought one on my way home.
Thing still works like an absolute BEAST anytime I plug it in.
Kept looking for your picture on milk cartons, but you came back with a good one. Thanks.
Finally finished the house I was working on! Much prefer making videos:)
@@TheFunnyCarpenter You were missed. We noticed. We are now amused.
Thanks for a very informative and helpful video, sincerely!
I went an additional step and took the only bag I have for my ho-hum DeWALT wet or dry vacuum, that was soon discontinued... So I took the only bag to a nearby sewing shop, and asked them to put a clothes zipper at its bottom, so that when woodworking, most of the medium to fine dust can be emptied along with the coarse shavings from my electric hand plane, and reused. The Tyvec® like cloth has endured many cleanings and still works fine. But the vacuum is only 9 gallon size, and its relatively small pleated filter causes a somewhat high pressure drop and the resulting drop in air flow... So I will try to get a larger bottom can, or perhaps making it from another kind of cans, to make a larger filter and save the motor and fan, that work well and are powerful having 1,400 watts at 120 VAC.
do you work for Tyvec? or do you always notate every brand that has a copyright or trademark lol
I second using the dust bags. They work great and can last quite a while before youd have to beat out the filter otherwise. Always thought about resealing them but never tried it. The binder clips are a great idea. If it doesnt end up holding its still in the vac with a filter so no big deal.
Thank you sir. I’m not a woodworker but appreciate a good wet/dry vac. I had no clue there were bags for them! Gonna be a game changer.
I had no idea there were bags for them either
I use my shop vac mainly in my woodshop and I use it in conjunction with a dust deputy, of course it was my dad's craftsman shop vac and it wasn't built for a filter bag, I was able to modify it and installed a hepa filter too. I mainly use the filter bag and hepa filter to catch the fine dust.
One of the most useful videos I've seen this year. Great tip.
This video was shockingly good for lack of better words. Simple, clean, AND backed up with measures of airflow and particulates.. Subbed!
No mention of a cyclone separator. I use an Oneida Dust Deputy that keeps my vacuum close to dust free. I did install a HEPA filter nonetheless. There are other cyclones available too from a variety of places. That would have been my tip #1.
This is the way.
Very glad someone has made a youtube video on the filter problems with shop vacs. I've made several suggestions to RIGID about how to improve their shop vacs, but doubt if they even care. In some ways, RIGID has disimproved their shop vacs. One problem is how they rate the gallon capacity. It's a meaningless designation, since for example, a 12 gallon RIGID shop vac could never vacuum up 12 gallons of water. The gallon capacity applies to the full size of the container. The proper way to designate gallon capacity should be to see how much water the vacuum can extract before the overfill valve blocks the vacuum air intake. A second problem, I have had both the older and the newer 12 gallon RIGID shop vacs. I've suggested to RIGID that they should design a square container, to make it easier to store and transport your vacuum. Since space is at a premium in work vehicles, this is a huge issue. I take the wheels off and leave them off so the vacuum takes up less room in my vehicle. The newer RIGID 12 gallon has rounded the bottom, which creates a stability problem vs. the older model, that had a flat bottom. A third problem is the ridiculous cost of the filters. I've seen a lot of people use these with no filter. Generally, it's employees of restaurants, who will not spend their own money to buy a filter for the restaurants vacuums. What I've done is take bar towels and wrap them around the filter frame, fastening it with a plastic wire tie. This works quite well, and you can pick up dirt or water and not worry about ruining an expensive filter.
I feel like looking for a higher quality filter immediately. Although I use an FFP2 mask anyway when using power tools, but like you noted in the video, the fine dust will remain behind on surfaces, so when I'm doing other stuff afterwards without the mask, some of the dust will inevitably rise into the air. Thanks for the advice!
Walk outside you'll get just as much dust on a windy day
Masks accumulate dust when not on your face. This goes DIRECTLY into you lungs. You CANNOT prevent this. Masks are an overlooked bad hazard but "good" business.
@@brucehansen7949 Since I'm walking outside regularly in any case, I'd rather not get the dust from both my workshop and from the traffic generated sources. Only one source is better than both sources.
@@brucehansen7949Especially where I live. It's always windy. At night with a flashlight you can see it clearly. Wish I could filter the outside air as well.
Thanks!
I have the exact Rigid vacuum used in the video. I had NEVER heard about using a bag, and I read directions faithfully. Placed my order - this is a game changer.
What an incredible tip on cutting a bag and clipping it…and getting more life from bags…brilliant tip!
I own that same ridge vac and I’m using a drywall sander tomorrow! Haha.
I’ve been looking for a better solution for small jobs and I like the idea of using bags.
I like the smaller dia. hose for my drywall sanding attachment, the large ones are cumbersome. All depends on the application.
Excellent point
Dust is horrible. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
100% agree, and thanks for Amazon tip on cheaper bags! I work in Facilities Maintenance at a school here in the Fraser Valley, create my own Facilities content on the RUclipss, and have one of the RIDGID vacuums (which are a great vacuum for the price) - but they get you on the bags (kind of like selling a printer for cheap but hosing you on ink refills!). I also always ask what someone needs to clean up when they come to me and want to borrow my vacuum, to make sure they aren't going to start sucking up water WITH the vacuum bag and filter, lol.
I use a cut off of a sweat paint leg over the filter and rubber bands to hold it on. ( ankle opening at the bottom ) One old sweat paints equal two pre-filters . This works well for me and the paper filter never gets completely plugged. The saw dust falls off the paint leg when the vacuum is off and it gets rolled around. Blowing it/ shaking it clean is easy.
I have a ridgid 12-gal vacuum. I put in a HEPA filter and HEPA bag about a year ago. It made a huge different in what comes out the exhaust. I also have a Dustopper paired with it. Very little gets into the vacuum and with the HEPA filter and bag, nothing seems to come out the exhaust. I know something does but it is virtually undetectable to me.
Mate, that's so valid, been working 35+ years, run with Festo heaps, costs a fortune over 12 units, need to look at real alternatives.
Cheers, keep up the good work
TIP: KEEP IN MIND Generally, the better the filter, the less performance in suction. Need to find the balance that works for you/your shop
Well, your are referring to HOW FINE filtration degree is the filter... But in some cases, getting the largest vacuum deposit can allow you to add more filters, modifying them to be able to stack them into a longer filter, to increase the total filtering area. That will reduce the pressure drop across the filters and also will cause the dirt to embede less deeply into the filters, making the cleaning much easier and faster.
Agreed, except don't forget that increasing the filter surface area (through any number of setups) can bring that suction right back up and even have BETTER suction and CFM and better filtration. It's often not considered and of course has practical limits but bigger filters always flow better.
Totally! A LOT of factors and options for sure!
Also, Keep in mind, the better the filter, the lower chance of contracting industrial Asthma, I am living proof and struggling.
@@zaedlo"industrial asthma" doesn't sound good. I worked around fumes and fine particles for decades. Now that I'm retired I have zero tolerance and crappy lungs..
Very good and informative video sir, thank you very much for the information.
You can also staple the bags shut, then cut off that half inch next time you empty it. Another tip is to cutout a strip from some cheap vacuum bags to staple into a cylinder to place over the filter, removes more dust from the air and makes the cleanup easier.
When I'm cutting wood in my garage (or in my back yard outside my garage), I hook up a cyclone dust separator inline with my shop vac. I use a small cyclone that's made by Makita and designed to attach to their upright vacuums, and I just run a hose from the intake to my tool and from the exhaust to my shop vac. I made a simple holder for it out of scrap plywood, and I put it in the holder and clamp it to my workbench. It captures probably 90% of the dust from my work. It's easy to open and dump out. I compost my food scraps, and I just dump the sawdust from my cyclone dust separator into my compost bucket when it's full.
I use the cyclone + shop vac setup with my small job-site table saw, my miter saw, my circular saws, and my handheld router. I should probably create a better dust shroud eventually for my miter saw to capture more dust, and I probably need to use a combination of things (bigger dust cyclone, bigger hose, bigger shop vac, overhead secondary dust port, etc) to capture more dust from my table saw, but it's still way better than not capturing any dust at all.
Using a cyclone dust separator greatly reduces the amount of dust that goes into my shop vac, which keeps the shop vac working efficiently and reduces the number of times that I need to clean my shop vac filter, which is way more tedious than opening up my cyclone, detaching the hose, dumping the saw dust into my compost bucket, and then hooking it back up.
My cyclone separator has worked so well I haven't even tried using a bag yet. Barely anything makes it into the vacuum. But that also means a bag would last a long time before emptying so maybe I should
I stumbled upon your video in my recommendations and was pleasantly surprised how much I learned.
_(And yaayyyyy, go Canadian RUclipsrs!)_
My big takeaway was *using your shop vacuum for drywall dust!?* I've done only 'some' vacuuming of drywall dust over the years, and before buying a shop vacuum used my $2000. Filter Queen (and only about twice!), necessitating a motor replacement after that little bit of drywall dust suckage burnt it out.
*So, I figured shop vacuums would be appropriate for drywall dust.* *_BZZZZZTT_* Nope. According to the subsequent 'research' I did online, drywall dust would apparently kill _any shop_ vacuum in short order too.
So, I just.....left it. Never did my own drywall repairs again, and have assumed 'til now that drywall dust will kill any and every vacuum. Years ago someone told me drywallers apparently bought old, cheap shop vacuums at garage sales and simply used them a few months until they burnt out and then replaced them with another old one.
I await any more insight you can share about drywall dust and the realities of vacuum lifespans sucking it up :)
If you've got a good filter it's fine, problem with the old ones is they use the stupid bag over the cage with the rubber band that would probably let small gravel through it
When I smoked cigarettes I accidentally sucked up a lit one. I immediately shut it down and took it apart most of the fire was concentrated on the filter so I threw it out in my back yard which was dirt. I had fun kicking it around as every time I did a decent size fireball would erupt from the fine sawdust! I never smoked around a vacuum cleaner again!
Flamethrower 😂
As an avid smoker, you just kinda explained why noone is allowed to smoke anywhere outside or around my homes
Reminds me of the time my dust bag caught on fire on my mitre saw.
@@TheFunnyCarpenter new filter and I was back in business!
@@dommyboysmith absolutely!
Are you saying to use a bag and filter at the same time for "big bucket on wheels" style shop vac?
I just use the Dust Deputy 2.5 deluxe cyclone and rarely even have much make it to the shop vac and with that cyclone setup, I just dump out the 5 gallon bucket when it gets full, zero filters involved.
DD is great
I have that same Rigid and I can't keep it from exhausting water out the back, even before it's full. I bought the exhaust filter for it which helps some, but it still sprays some water out through the filter.
If you only use it in the shop, I might also suggest adding a cyclone separator. I do a lot of woodwork, and almost nothing but the finest wood dust gets to my vacuum.
I just started using a cyclone but for some reason I get way too much dust in my vac. Maybe I have something placed wrong or the size of my hose is too small.
Tips 3 & 4 - Ligit!!! Spot On!!! Great Tips. He IS correct. I have a Rigid 16 Gallon 6.5 peak HP shop vac - and did check and purchased said vacuum Tent Bags....This Really works! Thanks, & Great Tips
Pro Tip- Get a few of the 20' long 2 1/2" hoses and connect them together to keep the vacuum OUTSIDE the house and let the fine stuff get close to nature! I have 3, 20' hoses and can do anything inside the house and never get the dust film anywhere.
That is a good idea but I don’t have room. That would fill my bed up halfway with hoses
Remember that flow rate decreases as hose length increases.
@@larrybud It does, but its minimal. 90 degree turns slow it down more. I haven't had any problem picking up anything with 60 feet of hose and the Shop Vac outside the house.
You also remove heated or cooled air from the room if the vacuum cleaner is not inside the room. Maybe not a factor but with a big dist collector they can exchange all of the air in a 400 sq ft shop in about 3 minutes.
sometimes these simple things show me how stupid I am. why didn't I think of this?
I purchased a synthetic material woven sleeve/sock that fits over the paper filter and is secured by a string. It was made by Rigid, ShopVac, or Sears. That was in the 1990s I forget the exact brand. It stops most of the debris that clogs yir filter, especially sawdust. You can hear the motor struggle when it starts to clog up. All I have to do is power the vacuum down and give it a few taps and shakes. The debris falls off of the filter and I just turn it back on. After a few times, I finally empty the barrel. The filter works much better and goes longer before I have to blow it out.
Great information! I've honestly never given much thought to my shop vac filtering. Got to go spend a few bucks on some upgrades!
It makes a huge difference what type of shop vac you get regarding how much dust goes back out into the air through its exhaust. At a large model railroad at a museum, we found that the usual cheapie shop vac (like from Sears) put a lot of dust into the air. (It settles back down on track and trains then don't operate well.) But a Dewalt DCV581H with VASTLY better filtering (bought in 2016) puts almost no dust into the air.
Great video. Concise and full of useful information. When I first started doing home projects I did not use bags then I tried vacuuming up after I sanded a bunch of drywall compound and spat all the dust back into the room 😂 From that day on, bags for me.
Thank you for the bag information. The bags are very expensive and I live in the antelope Valley in California. Last time I picked up a package of two I paid $20 for it.
I had to teach my grandfather, who has been doing drywall for 30 YEARS to use vacuum bags. They really save your vacuum life. And I include the price of a vacuum bag and filter in my estimates, that way I know for certain I'm not going to get dust all over my customers house.
You're a disrespectful schmuck to say something like "I had to teach my grandfather..."
Thanks a lot, and especially for setting up a test with a air quality meter. It is very easy to say "use this, don't use that", but what's good in it if there's no proof? With meter data, it is very clear that those cheap filters, in fact, still require you to wear a mask in a workshop!
Wow. I thought this video was going to be sort of a joke. Great suggestions overall. It's too bad they don't have a reusable bag designed for rigid with a zipper at the end or something. A lot of time I am just sucking up sawdust which is good for gardens or just dumping and doesn't need to go in the trash. The binder clip idea is interesting.
I’ve had a Festool CT36 for 10 years. It works great. I added the Bluetooth remote. I try to reuse the bags when I vacuum sawdust/mdf. I definitely discard them when I vacuum concrete. Yes! I use it sometimes with a 5” concrete grinder a it works great. I replaced the filter last year because accidentally the bag wasn’t installed properly and the filter got full of concrete.
Thank you the tip of cutting the bags at the bottom
I've been re-using my festool bag for years and thought I was the only one haha but I like how you did it better with the binder clips than how I did it. Unfortunately, I've butchered my bag to the point that clips wont work... but maybe I can figure something out. Thanks! Good tips!
Staples or hot glue should work to reseal the bag.
@@WhewLads thanks for the adice but I actually cut a flap (like a hack idiot) and have been taping the flap closed every time but the tape gets coverd in sawdust so I have to rip it off which doing like 20 times has really damaged the bag itself. It's a mess... lol but it works good as new every time I patch it up so, it is what it is haha. I know better for next time!
You can use a cyclone as well. Made one from 2 home depot buckets. It definitely helps keep the filter cleaner.
Well, when I started working in carpentry some over 40 years ago, wasn’t a big emphasis on dust collection or dust in the air and protecting yourself from it but now much older have been trying to be a lot more conscientious. One problem with all dust, collecting systems is a lack of uniformity in the sizes of hose and how they connect to gather!
It's absolutely ridiculous how (almost) nothing is compatible with anything else.
It's a gimmick, designed with limited lifespan and with reoccurring revenue built in. Why else would one have to upgrade a hose and filter on a new vacuum? They're all 💩 but some people have more dollars than sense.
@@shawnp8878 What would you recommend?
I find the Bosch system a good compromise for size adaptability and cost. It's a big initial outlay but I like the quick switch connectors as I switch from tracksaw, power planer, and belt sander constantly. I also have regular shop vac for the tablesaw and miter saw with a switching box I made. Two holes in, one hole out to the vac. The box had a sliding baffle with one hole that closes one port and opens another in one movement. I use these two systems everyday on the job. Also getting close to 40 years in the business.
been cutting the and reusing vacuum bags with clips for over 5 years. Best advice!
There's an article by pro tools that suggests for dust collectors and extractors if using a bigger hose the suction drops. Suction gets the air moving, CFM keeps it moving. That's why dust extractors come with a 1-1.5 inch hose to keep the suction high and pull decent CFM numbers.
I added a 90 degree pvc pipe on the exhaust hole of my Ridgid vac. In my small shop the air coming out the exhaust often blew things around such as papers or any light weight item on a low shelf. The 2" 90 just aims the exhaust toward the floor.
The only possible comment I can think to add is that the bag lining is in part, a kind of disposable filter so while you can re-use them over time effiency will drop off as the pores in the bag get clogged :)
I’ve been re-using my filter bags just as shown in the video, but I’ve always wondered about the pores clogging after multiple uses, just as you say. He says he’s emptied his 15 times. I wouldn’t go more than about ten times
2:45 but doesnt having a larger diameter hose have less suction? btw great video
Congrats on the new workshop (I just noticed). I’d love to have something like that!
Thanks buddy, definitely a dream come true. I never ended up making too much in my family garage workshop. It was always disheartening spending 4 hours moving everything out of the way.
Spring steel clips. I’ve been doing the exact same thing with my filter bags to re-use them. After the first use I just unfurl the glued ends and dump out the contents, then roll the ends up a few times, and then clip them shut.
An option is to use a second hose to drive the exhaust outside, or use a long pool hose and place the entire vac outside while in use. My built in shop vac is exhausted to the outside.
Thanks for the tips on using bags. Will definitely look into it. I have a dust separator that works quite well. However, when connecting my sander to the separator the air velocity is so low that the dust makes it all the way into the shop vac. To combat that issue I've introduced air leaks into the hose that connects the sander to the system and it keeps the air flow up where finer dust gets separated from the air stream. BUT this means that only the finest dust can make its way into the shop vac. So your suggestion of heppa bags will likely catch the finest dust for me and will likely never make its way into the atmosphere. Oh, and I do have a whole shop air filtration system. It's mounted right above my main dust separator (Harbor Freight). The filter bag is notorious for leaking dust, so I put it right there. It's amazing how much dust it was taking out of the air. Since upgrading to a pleated canister filter air velocity is up and dust leakage is down so low that I haven't detected any indication of a dust leak whatsoever.
I can’t believe you didn’t mention a cyclone separator. Hands down the best thing you can do for your shop vac. Won’t need bags, either. Make yourself a nice cart stacking the vac and the cyclone bucket.
The cyclone does NOTHING to stop fine dust. I have one. Fine dust goes right on by. Only the heavier material separates. So the bag and filter is still the BEST way to go.
I've been using a bag for years it really does make a big difference. It keeps the filter cleaner longer and a lot less mess to throw out a bag instead of trying to dump out the vac into a trash can
Very informative video! Thanks for putting this together and sharing with us!
Thanks a lot buddy, I appreciate you checking it out🍻
Very helpful, very informative. Exactly what I was looking for today and the dancing at the end was terrific!
Holy price gouge, Batman! Those hoses have literally gone through the freakin' roof! Wow.
That and furnace filters... Probably 3-4 times the cost they were 3 years ago.
That was the most unbelievable part of the video. That’s twice what I paid for my shop vac, lol.
That's not price gouging! Which is illegal
@@jonbartosch1903 anything festool is going to cost a LOT extra. It’s high quality stuff though. I’ve bought two Festool tools, and not regretted it.
Hey Monkey Bar Monkey man I’m Monkey man and I’m Monkey Bars Off road!….. man! Sorry I found that entertaining!
I like your tip about using the bags. I'm going to get the cloth bag and sew a heavy dusty zipper into the bottom and see if it works.
2:22 That's what she said. Sorry. I had to .
Have a 25 year old Craftsman. I love it and never had a bag. Going to see if I can adapt one. It's a different port arrangement. Cool video
I'd rather eat glass than put any business Bezos' way.
Why eat glass, become a human vacuum and inhale. You don't have to buy from Home Depot. got Grainger and Lowes and ACE Hardware and Harbor Freight and Tractor Supply.
…or like my mother would say, “ cut off you nose, to spite your face”. 🥴🙄…you lose…no one else even notices your limp body on the curb. 🙄
I saw a video some dude sat on a tall glass cup until it was all the up his ass, and then he clenched firmly. Amazingly, he made a diamond. Jp, glass broke and the remainder of the video he's pulling out glass shards with loads and loads of blood. I'm sure you've seen this video. No? "One man one jar". Google it. Check it out. You won't necessarily regret it.
You'd censor yourself out of the gene pool. Would that be a bad thing?
Sir, you are a national treasure. Don't stop. EXCELLENT video in every respect.
I almost subscribed when I saw how much fun you were having playing with your "big hose" but then when I saw you break out the running man, I subscribed instantly!
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I just bought that Ridgid hose at Home Depot a couple months ago and it was around $50. Just wanted to let you know cuz it's cheaper than the one on Amazon. Great videos , I love watching your channel. 👍😊
Stud! Useful info, Professional Insight, Watching this video saves you money. 100% worth my time…thank you
You’re my hero with this one video alone! Love your sense of humor!
It's a good thing that we have smart people like you to tell us dummies how to use something as simple as a shop vac.
Sorry to be late to the party but I also put a "pool skimmer sock" on the filter in my 10gal shop vac. It seems to help the filter stay cleaner between cleanings.
I bought a 30 foot pool hose for $3 at a yard sale one time. I cut it to more usable lengths, Works great for these dry vacs!