The Shocking Rise and ‘Fall’ of Lizzo: Her Sudden ‘Fall From Grace’
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2023
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Grammy award winning singer, Lizzo, has found herself in hot water. In a recently, filed lawsuit, three of her former dancers accused her, her company Big Grrrl, Big Touring Inc, and the captain of her dance team, Shirlene Quigley, of "exposing them to an overtly hostile and toxic work environment."
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6 More People Speak Out: ruclips.net/video/QphMnt6FiHM/видео.html
Read Shirlene Quigley's Statement Here: instagram.com/p/CviYyBFSHij/?img_index=1
More People Speak Out: www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/lizzo-employee-lawsuit
Ex-Girlfriend of Lizzo's Boyfriend Speaks Out: theblast.com/519588/lizzos-boyfriend-myke-wright-dragged-into-her-shady-situation-ex-girlfriend-speaks-out/#:~:text=Wright%20reportedly%20wasn%27t%20a,her%20feel%20uncomfortable%20on%20set.
Lizzo Accused of Stealing Music Video Ideas: www.dailydot.com/unclick/elle-baez-lizzo-plagiarism-accusations/
It's important to consider due process in this case now that it is going the legal route. The story is still developing.
As always, I hope you find this episode, informative and insightful. Thanks for watching and have a great day!
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Another banger
@@user-rx2mp8to9f thanks so much 💕💕
@theofficialBTC hey girl can you cover the controversy of Jessica Kent? How she lied to 1mil + people and built her following off a lie? How she's a hypocrite & a narcissist and harmful to both the recovery and d.v. survivor communities
I know you missed this, but updates is spelled wrong. I’m a journalist, too, so I know you didn’t mean that…
@@nancyaneke1346 omg thank you!!!!
It looks like Lizzo confused her employees for her friends. She behaved in a way that might be acceptable between close buddies HOWEVER is completely unacceptable between management.
Yes, I agree with that. Total lines and boundaries crossed.
you pressure your friends to eat bananas out strangers vaginas????
She has no boundaries clearly.
Think you hit the nail on the head. She made some bad assumptions and used the power she had in a cruel way. Where there is an even relationship, that’s one thing. But when that messes with their job security- that’s another thing.
Especially when it is forced.
Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should.
A lesson a lot of people ignore.
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So true!!!!!
A lot of women ignore.
She always goes overboard trying to convince us how confident she is. She pretends not to care about what people think but I think deep down she does care. Big women in Jamaica are very confident and they don’t go out of their way to prove it. May be a cultural thing, but it always struck me as odd how she would act.
I see and know many big women here in the US who are confident and do the same. They neither feel the need to talk about their fatness all the time nor do they constantly brag about how confident they are. I find those like Lizzo who do this fairly sus, and not just for fatness. I'm fat myself and not particularly confident about my looks but it's also very low in importance for me as I'm very much a homebody and I no longer do any work that involves my looks.
It’s the same in South Africa, BBWs just ARE.. and no one feels the need to point out the obvious.
Unpopular opinion.... I never liked Lizzo. I will tell you what made me not like her. She grew up upper middle class, going to private school and got the finest music lessons . She is worth 20M and got praised for her body positivity. Yet, she wants to say she is oppressed. This girl has no idea what oppression is.
I agree with you. Oppression is "in," which is why she leans into it. I hate that about modern-day society, the whole victim mentality.
The way you cover stories with a non-bias approach is classic. I hope you continue making docs for a long time. 😊
Aww that’s so sweet thank you! I know it’s not “trendy” the non-bias approach, but I’m glad you like and appreciate it💕
Amen to THAT!
Same. I watch her documentaries on topics I don't even care for, since she's that good at making them!
@@betheecommentatorthat makes you YOU 🎉 i was sick all weekend and watched your videos which helped distract ❤ thank you !
@@egg_bun_thanks so much for your support ❤
It’s crazy how someone’s downfall can happen so quickly
It really is.
Well to be fair Lizzo is a PLUS sized BLACK woman whom the majority of republicans despise and hate. And we all know who these gossip magazines and apps are run by (even RUclips). The truth of the matter is that when it comes to black women and controversy in the media. They never really get the same treatment as there white counterparts. Instead, there stories are more sensationalized and turns into a large agenda fairly quick. While Lizzo is wrong for what she did and deserves to be punished let’s not act like we don’t know what else is going on behind the scenes.
Edit: Also..every now and then a white FEMALE artist will be under scrutiny but those cases are very rare and they come out looking like wounded princess in the end. Well, everyone except Amy Winehouse who some people still call a crackhead till this day despite the fact that she was off drugs for the last three years for her life and off alcohol for about a month-ish
It’s crazy how people hear claims and the Judge People get to defend themselves
@@withlove5698very fair counter point! I don’t believe anyone should be cancelled based on “allegations”. Due process is fundamental for a reason.
Before they get to defend themselves**
Every time one of the "good ones" falls I am reminded to never ever put another human on a pedestal. As of early 2020 I have stuck to true crime and court proceedings where I get to see the world as it is.
I completely agree. Do not idolize anyone! Great advice
Well except for Denzel Washington. There is only one Denzel. Lol.
@@stacydetwiler1475 Denzel will tell you God said don't put any idols before him.
"good ones" lmao
No one will ever be virtuous and woke enough for fanatical Gen Z and the victim hood mafia 😂
Saame
this is the only video i've watched that actually goes into detail about the situation without any biased commentary, so thank you for that!
You’re welcome! ❤
Same, I saw the thumbnails & headlines but though I'd wait n let the dust settle.
when she said "this is who i am, always have been and people are now just looking at it" after wearing that "dress" in a public game people should have understood what kind of person she is.
I hate it when people are overtly and unabashedly sexual in contexts where they KNOW there’s someone present who is uncomfortable with their behaviour. There’s no need for it and it’s rude af. Idk anything about this woman, except that she’s a fat positive icon. But from watching this video, she seems like she has issues with boundaries and has no filter, both of these are incredibly annoying in a person.
With all her loudness, she's a insecure, jealous woman. Very vulgar and desperate. I feel nauseous every time I see her.
That used to be called harassment. They just repackaged it as “empowerment” to force people to participate. We’re regressing badly and modern “feminism” is a mess of gross behavior.
I can't stand crude and vulgar people who are overtly sexual in every single situation they find themselves in. It reminds me so much of my abusive mother. People like this ALWAYS push boundaries and the Amsterdam story is pure grooming.
Not everybody want to see her big bare ass on a basket ball game. It was disrespectul and disqusting.
If it was an ordinary woman exhibiting herself that way, she would be arrested.
She has No respect for boundaries, and shows no accountibility.
Her attetion seeking and 'I don't care what people think' demeanour while she does something absolutely inapropriate is actually very dangerous.
This incident fits well to the sexual harassment accusations.
I can't stand it either. It's truly unnecessary. I will never understand anyone's need to show every part of their body to strangers and in public no less.
People act as if behaving like a lady is somehow "toxic" when in reality people who behave this way are deeply miserable. I really don't believe freely having sex with anyone at any time is truly gratifying.
There's nothing sacred anymore.
@@bbjjbb61In my experience, I don’t believe that most people see being a lady as toxic. Statistically, millennials and gen z are having far less sexual encounters than their predecessors in general. Even though they easier access those encounters through social media.
Omg, it wasnt grooming. Do u even know what that word means??? It was her trying to party with her prude ass dancers as if they were her friends when they were amything but that. They saw her purely as an employer... and an employer they didn't even like for that matter She messed up there... but then again, she probably thought they just wouldnt have even come out to that kinda place with her to begin with if they weren't down with that kinda stuff
I'm with you on that. It's cringe beyond words.
I am so glad you covered this! It's such a shame Lizzo was the face of inclusion but was doing this behind the scenes.
Thanks so much for watching. It’s an important topic so I hope you all enjoy the video 💕💕
We don't know anything. So don't judge her as guilty without a trial.
@@luv4hutch very fair comment and very true. Due process is fundamental
I think there's shades of gray to this and I'm unsure how far this lawsuit will go. I've been in media communication law before, so I tend to see these things from both the personal and the law side of it. Lizzo is certainly not who she claims to be in her public image. She's disrespected boundaries both personally and professionally, and she's employed leaders on her team that are just as disrespectful and controlling while pushing their own beliefs (the dance team captain). It's inappropriate behavior that does have merit in a lawsuit.
However, for the rest of the lawsuit's claims, it seems to go based off of inferred feelings and suspicions about what they thought Lizzo was feeling or thinking. The victims don't make for good witnesses in interviews with the press and they come off as young and naive to the industry. There's a lot of talk about validating feelings and not enough talk about specific scenarios that took place in concrete detail.
Their lawyers should be speaking for them and allowing them only to answer questions with prepared statements unlike the TMZ interview flub. Civil torts have a much lower burden of proof, so good luck to them. At the very least this shows how fake some celebrities are.
You are spot on. Since I don’t insert my opinion in my content I can’t add to the story with my thoughts. But if I could, this is exactly what I was thinking while working on this video. Again, your analysis is spot on, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing your take and thoughts!
@@betheecommentatorI agree🤔🙏🏻
@@lindabuck2777 yes we’re on the same page with this one. We shall see how this plays out 🧐
I was thinking the exact same think. Her complaints about being told she wasn't doing well? It's a job & there are expectations. Then she *thinks* they're referring to her weight because they're asking if she's OK and she knows she's gained weight (which she herself is likely uncomfortable & paranoid about, so may very well be projecting. She thinks it's wrong to be fired for recording a pericardial employee meeting? It's pretty standard that celebrities don't want private moments unknowingly recorded- and for very obvious reasons). It's not at all surprising a person would be fired for that. Also, the excuse fpr tecording was so weak & seemed like an obvious lie to me. They seem like whiny Gen Z youngins with zero real world experience. Ijs
The teachers antics are truly insane 😮 maybe she was drinking or something cause it didn’t make any sense to me whatsoever
I've never felt Lizzo to be sincere
Lizzo has spent so long building this thick skin and confidence against all the horrible negativity she receives bc of her weight, race, and gender, but unfortunately, it seems at times it develops into arrogance and defiance. To the point where ANY criticism she receives, she automatically takes it as an attack on her character and who she is. You can see that by her comment about her sexuality in her statement. No one’s shaming her for being freaky. Do you boo. Waive your freak flag. That’s NOT what these girls are accusing her of. They are essentially accusing her of not having a safe and supportive work environment for them. For not protecting these girls, and creating a safe space for the women she employed to her company, which contradicts everything she says she stands for.
Despite her best efforts it’s clear she’s still deeply insecure about who she is. She needs “control” over everyone (eyes and ears). She expects everyone to have the same sexual appetite/openness as her, and if they don’t that means they must be “shaming” her, and she acts petty and vindictive off the cuff. I remember her Postmates incident a few years ago, that was dirty how she treated that driver, especially when it came out that she never stole her food. This is all EGO and INSECURITY that she needs to check quick. Also, all of this reeks of toxic Girl Boss behavior that has set the feminist movement back years. This “I’m a Bad B*tch” attitude that you must act like toxic men in order to run your business successfully as a women. You must be definant and “Strong” at all times against all criticism is childish and arrogant. Takes her down a few pegs in my eyes. Now, I see a sad, insecure individual who doesn’t really know what true confidence looks like yet. All of the confidence she projects is just for show, because true confidence never needs to belittle, berate, or bully anyone. True confidence admits when you’re wrong and seeks to make it right. I hope she finds that true meaning, and treats people with respect moving forward. It’s clear she’s still got some learning to do, and I think as fans we need to be aware of this moving forward.
There is a culture now of trying to drag people into one's "freakiness". Whatever Anyone wants to do behind closed doors is their business but in a work environment thats so fucked up
How should people respect her when she doesn't even respect her fans? Her attitude is terrible and I don't believe for one minute she feels good in her skin. No no, too much anger there
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Perfectly stated 🩷
Well said.
Loved this! I never have liked Lizzo because she seemed very arrogant.
Thank you so much for watching and becoming a member! I appreciate the support and glad you enjoyed this episode. 💕💕
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Yeah, well whose prechewed, predetermined narrative did you listen to in order to get that? The same people that call Ellen a phony and Michael Jackson a pedophile, I'm certain.
@@RiqochetRoseTarot Ever since she flapped her bare cheeks at a basketball game in total disregard of other people or even the children there, I knew she wasn't a good person.
I was never a fan, but did like alot of her songs. Yet, as someone who suffers with her weight; I was proud to see a big woman doing her thang. Yet, then I started seeing her antics and started to feel she was making a mockery of the whole body positivity movement. It sucks, because a lot of things that start out good and are suppose to be uplifting; shift into something completely different!
Think I stopped supporting her when she went to the basketball game with her butt all out and twerking. Like why? She wasn’t performing… it was just slack.
Twerking is not sexual. It was a cute dance that kids did. It didn't turn sexual until Miley did it on Robin Thicke's groin, and then people only had the dirty minds to infer something that wasn't there because "Miley did another Miley thing."@@francescapowell1538
That was the point.
If you listen to her, always talking about how great she is, you realise, she is not confident she is arrogant.
Yes, such arrogance!
Well to be fair when the world shits on you all the time you sorta do have to develop a coping mechanism. I got a plus sized cousin who acts the same way as Lizzo and it’s actually quite sad. She was bullied in school and online by people in her classroom. I truly believe that once Lizzo got that first taste of power she just went crazy. Which is the case for a lot of bully victims when they get famous. There are only a rare few who ever get their apology or reparations from the people who tormented them.
@@BozeDoesGodsWorkit’s not fair it’s enabling or justifying
@@BozeDoesGodsWork Yeah, if that was the issue in this case. Listen to her in the interviews she said she always been like that since grade school. She was always the best in this and that, she never saw a problem with her weight.. So not only is she arrogant, She is a top level Narracissit.
I had been a lizzo fan in the beginning but I started to feel like it was turning ingenuine and passion less once she started getting way more opportunities. It’s also hard bc you can tell she’s not secure but she made all her music centered around it.
Yeah I have to say it started to feel forced. To me the interview with Trevor Noah is one I point to. It was almost like watching a little kid say shocking things or things they knew they shouldn't and then look around like haha that's funny right? It's funny? I'm funny.
While I like her music and message to love yourself I didn't care for the deep involvement in the health at every size community. Yes, love who you are now, dress how you want, demand to be treated like a person, don't dampen yourself for the comfort of others. However, being morbidly obese is not healthy. It causes problems with your organs especially your heart which is kind of one you can't live without and your joints, especially your knees, hips, ankles, and feet. It makes doing simple things so much more difficult and painful and her endorsement of health at every size is problematic in my view.
@@Ali_D_KattI’m sure health issues do not “only” arise from “Big” people. Saying Lizzo is obese is fat shaming.
@@biancaishott1179 So stating facts is shaming? Ridiculous. She is a beautiful woman, talented, they say, don't know, not my cup of tea... Even she says she is fat, which is OK; it's her life, her health. She is already what, 35? Health problems will start creeping. If she is the face of body positivity then the society is in trouble. Especially after 2020.
@@biancaishott1179saying “lizzo is obese”, is factual. Tf?
@@biancaishott1179 Thats like if I say she's black, im racist.?? girl gtfoh. Also she didn't say health isssues only come from obese but being obese will give you health issues that being at a healthier weight won't
How does anyone think they can get away with this for very long in this day and age??
Why is she being persecuted so easily?
While I find Lizzo’s songs catchy and decent, I have to admit I find people who constantly parade that they're nice are the complete opposite of that as they have a lot more to hide. There was a RUclipsr that I admired her content and unsubscribed to after finding out that she's not a nice person, releasing someone’s suicide note in her apology video, and harassing a pregnant woman while she was bedridden. I also have another RUclipsr who I'm very conflicted about unsubscribing to and unfollowing her Instagram as she makes valid points on racism in children’s media but she’s a massive hypocrite and narcissistic as she talks about how toxic fandom is but allows her fans to attack people who don't agree with her. She also turns off comments when her fans don't agree with her and call her out on her ridiculous claims. One example was that she believes that white men are bad at fashion after criticizing the clothing designs for a TV show that she watches I watched the first season before tuning out and that gay people and people of color should take charge. I'm sorry if you're hiring someone based on their race and sexuality instead of their credentials, that says a lot about you as a person.
You made such valid points. It is disappointing when the veil is lifted and the person/entity you thought was one way turns out to be the complete opposite. I can absolutely relate to that.
The RUclipsr who I'm conflicted about always claims that everything in media has racism, homophobia, and misogyny. While she's right to some extent, not everything is. She dealt with a lot of trauma such as being bullied in middle and high school, sexual assault, and other things that I empathize with as no one deserves to experience those things, but that doesn't excuse her horrible actions as she despises men(white and black), straight people(I hate the word cishet in general), and conventionally attractive women because they remind her of the people who bullied her in high school. Girl, conventionally attractive women can't control how they're born and some attractive women are cruel, but many are kind. People who constantly go after attractive people tend to be the most miserable. She always claims that she doesn't hate everything but she always bashes men or has her videos titled “the ism/ phobia of insert name of show/movie”. While I'm happy for the success she has, she needs to learn to stop bashing attractive people and allowing her fanbase to go after people who don't agree with her, take constructive criticism, and do proper research in her videos as she admits on some occasions that she doesn't watch the movie or show to get a better understanding of the context of the movie or show she's discussing.
@BLAIR!!! Same with me. I thought she was one of the good guys
if you were that bothered by her saying that white men can’t dress and marginalized people who have made huge contributions to fashion should take over….not only are you unserious bcus it’s not that serious, but you’re also pathetic
Also how has lizzo paraded about how “nice” she was? we can say her brand was positivity, but I’ve never seen her push how “nice” of a person she thinks she is. I feel like you’re just not being objective at all and lumping everything that is known for it’s positivity in the same bubble
@@kamsismithlol I don’t like men and straight people either. sorry. you sound like a bootlicker
“Oh noooo the poor men and straight people being oppressed by this RUclips whatsoever shall we dooooo?”
Lizzo can act all she wants. She is STILL insecure and you can tell.
So impressed with how quickly you got this out! Amazing! I’m guessing we’ll never know how it ends, as it’ll probably be settled out of court, but I’m so glad those women were able to tell their side publicly. Thanks for the full breakdown Be . Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks so much for watching! We definitely have to see how this plays out. See you in the next one ❤
Yep, I love this channel. I hope it grows with millions of subscribers. 🎉🎉🎉
@@thinishot too sweet!! Thank you 💕💕
I definitely want to wait until everything plays out in court.. With that said…The Christian lady creeps me out 😩😂🤣
SN: Why do ppl feel the need to share their sex life/fantasies (and extra personal stuff) with strangers? 😳 The lack of boundaries is insane 🥴
Yes, I’m all for waiting to see how it plays before I make a concrete opinion about anything ❤
Yeah
Are these people 5?! No one MADE you do ANYTHING. They all made a CHOICE. Wouldn’t be me. I would have QUIT.
The saddest part is like many bullied victimized people, this woman is reproducing a similar behavior.
The alarming thing about it is she seems unaware of how hurtful she was, because she is not victimizing her dancer up front like she was.
It’s insidious and she has to acknowledge it, or she is going to keep doing it while hiding behind the wall of denial: “I have integrity, I will never verbally/ directly shame a woman on her body”.
Well Lizzo, you are doing everything else to make her feel as horrible as possible.
New subscriber here - I thought this was a really well balanced account of everyone’s side and I wanted to say thank you. I love her music, but I don’t know Lizzo personally and as of right now, without her legal arguments against these allegations, I believe these women. There are so many instances where all three say they can provide additional, outside witnesses (meaning they’re not just backing up each other).
Really well done.
Hi there and welcome 🤗 thanks so much for watching, I’m glad you found this video informative.
I try tell the story from all angles so that you (the audience) have a full picture based upon what we currently know. Thanks again for watching!
She ALWAYS gave off low key...at times, mean girl vibes , other times, STRAIGHT UP bully vibes!!. I'm NOT shocked, glad she couldn't hide it AWAY NOW EVERYONE KNOWS!!!😊👏👏🎉🎉
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in court or overtime. I remember when Melanie Martinez was hit with sexual assault allegations, and was immediately canceled by her fans. It turns out that she was eventually vindicated.
I agree, we have to see how this all plays out. Especially when things go the legal route, I’m a firm believer in due process.
That's what I thought of as well. We'll see
It’s probably going to settle out of court! 🤷🏻♂️
@@manuelsaldivar01 I think you’re right
She was not vindicated actually, it just got brushed off as time went on as most sexual assault accusations do. I remember an ex-friend of this person also came forward with a similar experience. Whole situation is icky and I wouldn't call her vidicated whatsoever.
I’m definitely interested in seeing how this all plays out, there was one controversy you didn’t mention which left the biggest impression on me personally, the incident with the door dash delivery woman. Instead of just making a private complaint she put that woman’s information on twitter. Just unhinged behavior.
Yes that’s true, I unfortunately had to cut that out which I originally included in the script because I try to keep episodes under 1 hour. But you are absolutely correct.
Lizzo blasted the women on social media. Put her personal information online after accusing her of stealing her food. All to find out, Lizzo was wrong. The employee did not do what Lizzo accused her of.
I think the s*xual aspect is the most serious. The hostile work environment, maybe. The weight concern is not going to happen, it’s going to just be argued that weight is perhaps the most important factor in a stage dancer, and if you hire someone I’m sure there’s a reasonable stipulation in the contract that they can’t dramatically change their appearance.
Now I don’t like lizzo I think she’s fake and I totally understand working in a pressurised environment and trying to please your boss HOWEVER know your boundaries and when to walk away….. no one cheering me on could ever make me touch someone’s body part if I get fired ima see you in court baby….. some things they say sounds believable other parts sound like 🤨 “girl…. Really??”
Thanks for watching! I hope you are doing well?! Also, thanks for your continued support. 💕💕
@@betheecommentator hey bestie I’m good thanks how’re you?? My support will forever remain here bestie you always deliver and never ever disappoint xx
props to you for including the tweet story. a lot of people forgot about it, Mina went through so much for simply standing her ground and asking for a credit, rightfully so. the optics of Lizzo writing a song with 2 white men, stealing a tweet from a black british woman... allegedly Lizzo only gave Mina the credit as she planned to trademark that line to use on merch and probably that was done to avoid a lawsuit. in general it's a very interesting case regarding IP and memes. Mina is now Grammy acredited, in the end she won
Yes! There’s so much more to Minas story that I didn’t include in this episode because I didn’t want it to be a watered down version and then get swept away by everything else going on in this episode.
I have noted to cover Minas story and what happened because like you said, so much more and her story is very important ❤
@@betheecommentator I hope you do a part 2. This is a lot of info! 😮
So glad you are covering this. Personally I have never liked her she comes across as fake to me . But we have to wait and see how this plays out.
Thanks for watching. I agree, we have to see how this plays out.
I love your channel bc you simply report the facts and don't interject your personal feelings. So many youtube channels are about the personal opinions of the commentators, so the story is created to back them up. You give the story as it is, and I respect you for that. Thank you.
Wow, your comment means so much, truly. Thank you ❤
Yep, this channel and AdrianXpression are two of the selective group of content creators I’ll watch regarding this topic, especially Adrian, who is very victim’s voice focused and has always been supportive of Black Women, and all victims. Everyone else is on the projection train to deflect from their own internal turmoil, in an effort to somehow make the smell of their human waste less pungent, so I’ve just been muting these algorithm cash grab pop up videos left and right.
@@fromlissawithlove this means so much! Thanks so much for your comment!!
@@betheecommentator absolutely! Thank YOU for making such thorough, objective and well thought out and executed content!! You are doing what real documentarians SHOULD be doing, presenting the facts without bias and manipulation of the crowd. Love your channel!
@@fromlissawithlove dreading is also another good, non biased channel
I am not a fan of Lizzo, but most of these dancers’ complaints sound 100% like a cash grab to me. How did such pearl clutchers get to be dancers for an act like Lizzo in the first place?! Did they not see any of the stufd she had done before they signed on? They just want to sue for the money.
I had never heard of Lizzo, but was interested in the story, the “rise and fall.” So frustrating and saddening to watch someone destroyed by their own hubris. What stood out to me was when one of the former dancers said that she and other dancers were told that they were lucky to be eating any “crumbs” they could get from Lizzo.. No! These are hard-working, talented young performers who WANT and need to work and to be their best and ought to be treated accordingly. Thanks again Bee for another great documentary.
Honestly there's no case here. A lot of assumptions about what Lizzo thinks and nothing of what she actually said. At the 42:00 min mark Ms. Davis makes an assumption based on nothing. Weight was never mentioned. SHE had an issue with anxiety and binge eating but they didn't know that. She only speaks on how SHE felt they were acting. I'm not buying it. Plus if it was stated that attending these clubs was NOT mandatory why agree to go? I'm pretty sure Lizzo was already going to these places and doing these things and they knew. They just wanted to be in her good graces. You also don't go and record meetings without a person's consent. She did that for her personal evidence.
And for the record I'm not defending Lizzo but I also don't fully believe these women.
Thanks so much for watching and weighing in. It’s always a pleasure to read the comment and hear from you all. Thank you
They are lying. Just like Carlee Russell 🤷🏾♀️ it is obvious...they made something of little things here and there to have a case to collect money it is obvious. I am very surprise of the among of people always fallong for lies everyday...its kinda scary.
I don't really like how she explained coming up with "I love myself." It sounded more like "how can I market this" than "this is a message I want to share. ".
The way she "humble" brags about starting the self-love movement rubs me wrong too. I'd be more concerned with using that moment in my platform to making sure I instilled the message of loving yourself and urge everyone to help others realise that too, than just bragging about starting it...
Ms. Davis; "We were invited to a strip club and accepted! They told me to touch a breast, and even though I could have said no and left - I didn't! I touched the breast of my own accord whilst making a joke and laughing- but I was REALLY traumatized. Then I left the club. Although I could have done that before and didn't. Please pay me thousands of dollars to compensate me for my own embarrassing actions that I could have simply refrained from."
This!
And then jump to 55:20 where MS. DAVIS is gushing over working with Lizzo and trying to get on season 2 of the show. Lizzo sounds like a bitch, but most of the suit is just meant to defame her and keep the story in the headlines. The sexual harassment stuff will stick, but the body shaming was literally this woman projecting her own insecurities and assuming that it was about her weight. She said they asked her why she wasn't the person she was when she auditioned and was chosen for the show. She was going through depression and anxiety at the time, so why would she expect them to not notice a difference? Throwing "fat-shaming" in there was just to make people hate Lizzo more than they already do.
I see your never experienced workplace bullying and hazing before.
I haven’t taken the time to read about the allegations in detail so I am SO READY for your video. Always top notch editing and narration and storytelling Be!!!
Thank you so much for your support. Lawsuit is included in the video and I also linked it in the description box for anyone interested in reading it too ☺️💕 I hope you enjoy the episode!
This has been very informative and gone beyond the headlines. To me, the weight discrimination claim is the most unclear - it’s not that I think the victim is lying, but it sounds like she’s inferring a lot and people can often read something into a situation that isn’t there, especially when insecurity is present. It’s possible she was fired for a totally different reason.
That being said, the sexual thing I can see. I can see Lizzo wanting to be open/sex positive, but part of that positivity is also reserving the right to be non sexual or private about your sexuality. It’s not cool, and she seems to have confused her employees for friends. Also why is someone allowed to proselytise on set? I hope she takes this as a learning experience, I doubt she meant badly but it’s not ok.
Also, for the secret recording thing - come on, you cannot secretly record people without their consent. Lizzo shouldn’t have assaulted her, but even if you have a good reason to record, you should ask permission first and I would totally fire someone over that.
Finally, as much as Lizzo sounds like a diva, arrogant and unprofessional, so do many many performers - and while it’s wrong for all of them to do so, it’s a double standard that Lizzo is getting so much flack for it immediately
thank you! someone who is thinking critically and not immediately hopping in this hate train. i agree
If the allegations ended at “she’s a diva” no one would’ve cared.
I’m so glad you found it informative! Thank you for watching and providing us with such a great breakdown of the situation. Very fair, balanced, and thought provoking!
Depends where she was recorded. There are places where one party consent is enough.
Even if it’s legal to do one party consent for recording, in my view it’s always unethical unless you are secretly recording evidence of abuse - and she wasn’t doing that, she was recording a rehearsal. It is certainly something I would fire someone over, recording me at my workplace without my consent. Once again though, Lizzo mixing personal and professional business especially when it comes to sexually charged environments is not okay and I fully support the victims in that sense. I just feel that the case in its entirety is a bit messy and it’s not clear cut for all of the claims
19:44 “this is what i’ve always done” is the codename for i refuse to learn and grow and im uncapable of taking accountability for my behavior. it’s not “im a simple giiiirl” as she thinks it is. you’re saying you’re immature.
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Wow, you’re welcome, so glad I could help! I’m also super excited you found my channel and I look forward to making more content, that you’ll hopefully enjoy ❤
While Lizzo seems like obviously awfull, self-centered person, the complaints seem bit naive.. I mean, if the dancers were teens, I'd understand, but with adults I'd expect them to be able to say "Sorry, I'm not comfortable with this". And I personalIy kind of feel like the body positivity should be for people who feel bad about things they can not change, it stops being positive when people use it to defend their poor choices.
Listening to Lizzo in interviews reveals her intense narcissism
The world loves you one day and suddenly anything or someone with an agenda can decide to hate you and you’re done. Fame is fickle. We loved her, she loved us back and pushed the boundaries.
Fame is so fickle. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Thanks for weighing in!
@@betheecommentator *Thank you dear! 🙏*
I'm only 5 minutes in but even just listening to this first interview clip with her , she has no specifics about why she was supposedly an outcast, she keeps saying 'geek' and 'nerd' but honestly she sounds more like someone who is trying to pretend she was a misfit rather than someone speaking from experience
They want to settlement. They want to settlement and The lawyer basically said that when he said let's go to trial. They heard what he said, they know what it means. I won't be surprised if it ends in settlement because people don't want to go through the court process. Settling doesn't mean you're guilty, it means you're just done with the crap and unfortunately, many celebrities just settle issues like this because they constantly have people going after them for money
Or “let’s go to trial” because they have all the supporting evidence to win
Yep money is what they want 💯
Ugh this makes me so sad because I was a big Lizzo fan back in like 2019 and always admired her for her body positivity and acceptance of everyone! I was really hoping this wasn’t true but with more and more witnesses coming forward who aren’t in the lawsuit………. Doesn’t look good 😬 Thank you for your great coverage of this, as usual 😊💜
I really liked what Lizzo stood for too. Though I wasn’t a huge fan, I liked her brand and message, so to see this happening it’s disappointing.
But again, these are allegations so it’s important to see how this plays out. Thanks for watching! Glad you found it informative
Body Positivity
There’s no such thing
Not if you’re obese
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I’ll be honest, I don’t know how you sign a contract and then mad what you signed then be asked for you to do. Then claim anxiety over a tv show you don’t have to be apart of.
This is a quick money grab for these women.
I'm from Amsterdam so going to Cassa Rosso is no big deal to me. To closed minded foreigners who don't know any better, fine, keep your opinion. Either way no one should be forced to witness something. I believe that like others have mentioned in the comments, this person cannot manage , coach, mentor etc. But has strong musical acumen. Indeed this is what happens when you think colleagues are friends and forget professional boundaries. She doesn't know about things like HR, Employee relations etc. I doubt that she hired anyone for that. Bosses and employees need to be contained sometimes in order to thrive and I see the lack of oversight has led to this moment. Its pretty pathetic and tragic.
“Closed minded foreigners” people can have an opinion on something that is overly sexual.
I was always taught: "treat other like you want to be treated". So, I guess if you treat everyone around you badly...
Isn't the whole message of "body positivity" about judging people by how they are on the inside, not what they look like on the outside?
I don’t know, something makes me feel like they are clutching a little for a lawsuit. Yes, Lizzo isn’t who she’s made herself out to be, but I feel like these girls didn’t realise what they were signing up for when it came to the industry and big superstars. I do not condone anything Lizzo has done but I find it hard to believe that this warrants such a lawsuit. Sorry, just my opinion.
Tthe whole playing sexually explicit music on the tour bus.
For an artist that they know is sexually explicit.
It's like walking into a tigers den and being surprised when you get mauled.
Simply because something is commonplace doesn’t mean it is acceptable.
Me too. They're totally looking for a payday.
Look, they lucky to have the gigs that they do.
@@IonIsFalling7217you can't apply for a job at a bar, and then act shocked that there's alcohol in the workplace.
How they going to whine about sexually explicit music when they're backup dancers for Lizzo.
They're suing bc they got shitcanned for bad attitudes and lazy behavior
Hmm you know, people said the Same thing about Jeffery Epsteins victims 🤔 I’m quite sure they weren’t expecting being pressured to put bananas In their puss
10:22 bro said ‘you weren’t the only one who started the movement’ in the most gentle way possible
This is sad to hear.
Good for those women who speak their voice so Lizzo can be accountable. 😢
The quality of your videos is seriously amazing! You present everything so clearly and back it up with proper evidence. I also like that you simply present the viewer with information and allow us to make our own decisions based on that and without any bias. Keep up the great work and hope you hit 100k soon, because you really deserve it! :)
Wow, thank YOU!! ❤❤
I don’t trust overly nice ppl. I don’t trust soft spoken ppl either. I hate the flute too. Lol.
But I really like this video. So many things I didn’t know. Always solid content w so much information. I appreciate so much your work and these ladies standing up for themselves. So true about freezing in the moment and not knowing what is normal behavior in the big league. Elton John doesn’t demean ppl, neither does Taylor Swift.
Oh c’mon now the flute is an amazing instrument and requires good skills to play it. However, the Elton John comparison ain’t eating because he was known to be a major Diva back in the day. So much so that him and Tina went head to head quite often.
@@BozeDoesGodsWork You can’t talk me into the flute. 🤭🙏🏻 That’s all the more for you, and being a diva and warring while high is different than abuse and methodical whatever she and management were doing.
Oh I bet he was a hellian high! What fun!
What's your issue with soft spoken people? Not everyone is loud and extroverted
It's the self-deprecation and victim mentality for me. She wore those pants to be seen period!
I don’t believe Davis in regards to the recording. I honestly completely understand why she would be fired for that. If she was recording because of her “condition” why not make it known. I don’t believe someone would secretly record someone unless they were doing is for nefarious reasons. I think this nonspecific condition of why she had to record it a cop out because California is a two party state. She wanted to mention the recording incident without incriminating herself
Who said the recording was in CA? They were on tour. What if it was a 1-party state?? I’m sure if the recording was illegal she wouldn’t have been allowed to mention it. It looks like they will be using this recording in court. Curious to hear what the recording says & why Lizzo would have her bodyguards imprison her in a room and go through her phone. What was Lizzo scared of?
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I mentioned California because that’s where the lawsuit was filed. Also I mentioned the phone because that is the reason Davis specified for her being fire. Most people do not want to be secretly recorded. You don’t have to be hiding anything. Also most companies do not want any and all information available to the public. That’s inviting competition to use one ideas. Also by your logic then everything that happened overseas should been removed from the lawsuit because US courts have zero jurisdiction in foreign countries that are not considered us territories
They are lying and making it more than what it really was for a check...they did this to so many celebs ..people are envious to this point 🤷🏾♀️
😡 *The audacity and hypocrisy of Lizzo!* 😡 They were allegedly wronged by Lizzo & the dance captain and wanted to air out their frustrations with the inappropriate & unprofessional behavior, yet people brushed it aside saying they're just mad that they got fired and are after her money even though the lawsuit never mentioned money at all
Very good points you made. My understanding of people saying they are after money is (and this is my opinion) that this is a civil lawsuit which means plaintiffs are seeking financial compensation for damages. That could be where some believe the lawsuit is for financial gain.
@@betheecommentator I get the feeling that they just want Lizzo to admit that she was wrong, apologize and make it up to them, but since she wasn't gonna do that they had no choice but to sue her
@@devinsauls9137 I could definitely see that POV. We have to see how this plays out. I hope they resolve this. 💕
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Wow thank you so much!!! This is very encouraging ❤️❤️
You got this out quick!! Always love to see uploads from you on my feed and an hour long too! You spoil us 😊
Thank you so much!!! I worked so hard to get this out, maybe too hard because now my wrist bone is swollen and sticking out lol 😝
lol this is so so ridiculous… the most legit complaint i would say happened is Lizzo crossing/having blurred lines between her dancers as a boss vs . a friend . everything else sounds so dramatized and paranoid.. it’s like they over dramatized evry event to fit evry form of discrimination there is, and are confusing their own (normal) anxieties of being fired , being at a strip club, getting fatter. and not being able to say no with harassment, discrimination, and “toxicity “ .like they literally say they were uncomfortable posing naked and were allowed to pose in nude clothes instead .. wow terrible. they are really complaining that if Lizzo didn’t like the way u danced then u were fired.. yaaa duhhhh..and Lizzo is right .. it doesn’t matter if she drank before her performance .. she doesn’t want her dancers drinking , that’s pretty normal .. and the fact she said l she was worried about her is bad/fat shaming? come on ppl.. are we really believing this ? ..i truly think they are truly biased themselves as Lizzo was acting like any other normal boss and THEY expected special treatment bc they wer “like Lizzo” (fat and black) , and prob thought they could get away with a lot, and they didn’t. that’s it
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Is that you Lizzo? Stop fat shaming ppl..😂
I agree with the commenter who said she confused her employees with friends I believe it’s possible she attempted to create a “FREE SPEECH” environment but it’s a time and place and these women had bills to pay 💰 they found a way to do that unfortunately they may never find another professional job because no big artist wants this type of issue.
I have doubts about some of these allegations....maybe I am just being willfully ignorant but something doesn't seem right.
The dancers were not treated well in certain instances and things were beyond unprofessional at times.
This is a work-related, employment discrimination case, not a criminal case of sexual assault, so please take it down a notch.
Jail time, as some suggested below, is ridiculous.
The "pile on" at such an early stage is disturbing and speaks more to the posters' delicate sensibilities and performative outrage.
Lizzo can be immature and imperfect. She's in her early thirties and the face/voice/talent behind a truly inspirational message-- which should NOT be negated due to a lawsuit. Artists get sued often and the facts will come out. This is not nursery school or therapy. All dancers, at all times, do not receive "gold stars" nor are ALL guaranteed a lifetime job. Artists say lots of crazy sh*T in the heat of the moment. One's feelings being hurt, does not constitute a hostile work environment. Legally, there is a lot to prove here. Give it time.
Very valid, logical points you made. I definitely believe that this needs to play out and all sides should be heard before forming concrete opinions. Sit back and let it all unfold, is my take. Thanks for weighing in! Again, valid points.
In court, I don't think this will hold up. Because they should also see what's in their contract along with the alleged lizzo trying trying strike her is subjective
Tbh Lizzo rubbed me the wrong way since day one. She's unbelievably full of herself and is a bully.
I’m sorry, but if any of these women win I will be shocked. If you really listen to what they are saying and put them in context of being a professional backup dancer on a professional world tour, there are several instances of them saying that they were forced into situations that they simply could have gotten themselves out of or are genuinely part of being a dancer. Also, as this is a lot of their first experiences as a dancer and especially at this level they have no idea that they actually are incredibly lucky to be in that position with so little experience. They seem to take that as if it’s not true? They may have actually tried to be genuinely interested in trying to be helpful with her diagnosis of binge eating disorder which they knew about and so did she because of the original evaluation, instead she takes this as an invasion of privacy and toxic. This may have actually been an incredibly open and honest, possibly helpful, but high stress and hard work environment and these women ended up fired. They aren’t happy about it for various reasons that will likely come out and Lizzo’s career will still be tarnished beyond repair. Especially considering that her contemporaries such as, Beyoncé, have already disavowed her without proof or conversation.
Exactly. Thank you!
As it stands right now is just a lot of “Believe me not her” stuff.
she is briliant musician..such a shame.
I hope the dancers will move on in a healthy way and will success in their careers ❤
Your non bias commentary is refreshing as always. Thank you for you work, keep it up!
This is so confusing! Why would the dance teacher do that? I don’t understand! Seriously I don’t get it! 🤔🥴🤦♀️
I would say to remember these are allegations and to give it time to see how it plays out. Take the allegations seriously of course but also keep in mind that all sides should be heard ❤️
I saw a tweet saying “I’m not surprised abt the whole lizzo accusations. My tias (aunties) do the same thing.” And it’s so true
Unpopular opinion, this is almost a nothing burger. And especially the complaint of Ariana in the show... "I was supposed to do something I didn't want, but at the same time I really wanted the position, so... It was frustrating." WELCOME TO THE WORLD! You make choices, if you don't feel ok, this job is not for you... 🤷🤷 The most I could say is Lizzo might not be the dream boss...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions with us!!
Totally agree!! The dancers sound like inexperienced babies and I don't know anything about Lizzo, except this video.
Normally accusations like this break and its just a part of the music/reality tv industry (I mean, look at Joseline's Cabaret, hew boy)...but this one hit me hard! her music was such a strong extension of her personality and she pushed such uplifting messages.
On another note, I wonder if they'll publicize the court proceedings! 👀
I can see right through this.
Those who are quick to signal their virtue (especially with identity politics) usually have no virtue to begin with.
If a slim or regular sized women did that at a laker game they would have been cancelled and that’s real but the fact that she’s being big I feel she gets to get away with it not fair
What turned me off from Lizzie was her hypersexual kinda cringey posts. It made me uncomfortable and I usually love when women aren’t shy to express themselves sexually. But she forced it it seemed. Idk the allegations align to her being an inappropriate boss, sorry
Damn girl, you’re quick!
Ariana is saying a lot of "I believe" and "it felt like". After watching I don't really see Lizzo as a bad person just crude...which isn't illegal. This lawsuit isn't making sense so far, it seems like they were upset that they got let go
I agree. People are just going with whatever. I see nothing she's done wrong to warrant all of this
lizzo hired a bunch of big dancers then was surprised that some of them couldn’t keep up. It’s a physically demanding job, it’s delusional to think weight wouldn’t affect that. Some of these dancers come from the same healthy at any size pride that lizzo does and they are eating themselves. That’s what happens when you value victimhood.
I still don't believe this about rapper lizzo, i truly believe these other girls are lying on her. Christine chastity lampkin.
You should do it on Doja Cat just because I feel like you'd do the topic justice!
“ I didn’t know or I didn’t realize how amazing I am until the world started catching on… I mean, I was just being myself… And clearly the world thinks I’m amazing and I was just being myself… I’m just being me… Mimi, Mimi me… Mimi, Mimi Mimi
I’m sorry but these accusers seem very shady and I don’t believe most of what they’re saying. It’s obvious they just want money.
I don’t think her fall from Grace was all of a sudden. It’s just a case of the internet believing the celeb over the “little” people
These dancers seem pretty naive and unsuited to the industry they were attempting to break into. A lot of the allegations are just based on 'gut feelings' they had.
I'm saying they come across like 10 year olds, wtf. Sure Lizzo was unprofessional as a boss but this is just a wild night out for normal non celebrity adults. Way freakier shit goes down in the industry
@@enterthecringe7552 I agree. Lizzo has always seemed to be an unpleasant person to me, and is probably a nightmare to work with, but a lawsuit over the 'abuse' is a bit over the top. Quite possibly the dancers did not cope on tour and their work suffered. Blaming Lizzo for an eating disorder, weight gain, consequent negative effect on fitness and professional performance standards and lack of ability to perform up to par is a particularly weak argument.
Yeah I've always found her public persona annoying asf but right is right and wrong is wrong. This seems like some smear campaign shit. More incentive to never be a public figure like ever. lol . And if you are, don't market your self as some bastion for unrelenting positivity, we all human..and that's ok lol@@capdan68
I hope the amount of money satisfies them but peace of mind has no price tag on it and is more important to me. I could never go that far for money. People are followers and have no personality anymore then this happens all day everywhere and you feel trapped because you never stands up for yourself.
They've been waiting to get rid of Lizzo. She's big, slightly vulgar, and brash. It makes me uncomfortable watching her behavior. She got some power and much like "Thanos" doesn't know how to use it. Her peers will probably avoid her like the plague now that she's on the way down. She needs to learn the boundaries between business and friendships. Doesn't she have a manager or team who advises her? They might've wanted to warn her she was treading in dangerous water. Sometimes people don't see themselves like others or have the social skills they need in life.
Your work has a very unique quality. I always am left with the "human-ness" ( I think I just made a new word) of each production. At my older age this kind of drama is just more drama, and it's always the same piece, just with different backdrops. But I leave thinking of how we learn about life through painful experiences, how surprised we can be to discover how fragile trust can be. We even have to learn to trust our own inner voice, our own wisdom! Crazy. And no matter how long we live the lessons never stop, and no one can avoid going through it. But you are the only RUclipsr who can make me think, hmm, it's gossipy, mud slinging, more senseless drama, but BeeThee will make it a thought provoking human interest piece. Thanks for sharing your gift!
The sweetest and greatest compliment ever! Thank you so much for watching all my content, engaging and sharing your take on the episodes and being so supportive! Thank YOU ❤❤
I concur with all you stated!🙏🏻❤️
You put these videos together better than anybody on YT. They're incredible to watch.
The thing with Lizzo is that she twisted being an artist with being in a position of authority and jumped back & forth between the two. She wasn't equipped to "manage" the business side and should have had a strong hand to take the reigns. She got caught up by her bigness in the show.
I blame her youth & her record label for sending her out w/o a chaperone.
She'll recover.
Aww thank you SO much for your compliment and feedback. ❤
That Lakers incident was also really disrespectful to the athletes imho, deflecting a lot of attention from their actual game and probably not very helpful for them generally.
I definitely believe the dancers anf the responses from people esp that insane delusional Quigley response (where she sounds like shes been indoctrinated into a religious cult -like to know which church she goes to!!)just backs up what they're saying. The fact that others have confirmed the hostile work environment and no one has come forward to deny it also says a lot.
Whether they can win in the courts is another thing unfortunately.
Sometimes folks push the envelope then it pushes back.
Johnny Rotton screamed “I’m in love with myself” in the song Pretty Vacant in the 70s lol
You do such a great job 👏🏿 detailed and engaging. So glad I found your channel’!! 🤩
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate your support ❤
Keep doing what U do, Bee!!🙋🏾♀️❤️💥
Thank you so much 💕💕
Zero shocked about Lizzo's Real personality Slip which is now going public. The tears every week, the obscene outfit at the game, the constant nudes on IG, the constant tooting her own horn on camara, the OVEREMBELLISHING of what she says concerning herself, concerning her life, and the interviews are SAD because it shows she loves to hear herself talk and is very insecure. All of it was begging for attention. She needs God and inner healing to change the person from the inside out.
Nobody did a "I love myself" song, Lizzo? You sure about that, cuz Kendrick Lamar begs to differ.