I built my entire 2010 5.4 by following Andrew but mostly Jordan and their build videos!! AWESOME!! He literally taught me how to set the play in my crank lash, I used the Molnar Rods Diamond pistons accufab tensioner and chains boundary gear ARP bottom side and head bolts cam gear bolts washers etc but I did my own heads! That’s where I went wrong but I was out of money! If your thinking of building your own go back in Andrew’s archive and follows him and Jordan!
Truly do not understand why folks buy these to supercharge them… this motor was not designed for that. You’re spending 2x what you could for a 5.0 and getting a lesser motor for what your intentions are with it. Ya ever wonder why the GT500 is not a flat plane and doesn’t rev to 8200rpm… this car is the perfect NA machine with a suspension to match
That just simply isn’t true. The owner himself has admitted this was user error. He was using 93 fuel on a cold night street racing, at that boost/power level, he got exactly what he was asking for. People get the gt350 and supercharge it because 8250 rpm’s and lots of power is addicting!
Why buy a GT350 when there's 5.0 cars running 9's all motor like Steeda ? I got a 2020 PP1 and raced a GT350 from a roll and he could not pull half a car length on me. 40-150 mph race....
Great Video. Great team of experts. MHS looks like htey know what they doing. And no theres not much videos on teardown on this particular videos. I baught a gt350 from auction and came with a bad engine, after doing research i end up buying a new long brock from ford on my dime with discount help from a friend at ford. She’s running strong now. Good luck on the new build motor. I would keep it N/A. 👍
Have you tried a heat gun on the back pulleys to expand it a bit, don’t need to get much over 225-240 degrees to expand the back 2 pulleys enough to remove the front press fit pulley.
He's the professional, but he's using his phone for a flashlight. Lmao! Dude is super cool and I appreciate his knowledge and expertise, but that munchkin voice is killing me.🤣🤣🤣 All in fun though! Life is good when you have great friends and family to help and support you!🙌🥰
So from a 2019 gt350 owner who is on the fence about boosting. Am I presumably safer since I have the newest gen engine ? Sucks to see it but I'm sure he'll build it back better.
It’s all good I’m very happy this happened, I’ve been wanting to pull the engine and have it built for awhile now and now I get to turn it up to 1200+hp. Hell yeah!
Love seeing this content. I had a built 5.4 2v with tfs 38cc heads and mhs did a great job on porting and polishing them. Degreed the cams and made a shit ton of power. Had a D1 procharger on e85. I miss that car. Going to pick up a 15+ gt soon. Lol
The dipstick bent was pretty funny. I have 2v out of a 2003 explorer was thinking about doing coyote rods and decent forged pistons for a turbo application say 700 crank hp on pump gas. It has a set of Cushman stage 2 cams in it as well. I got a 306 pushrod motor now in a 90 Foxbody but always wanted a street turbo combo.
I am not even gonna lie. I would not even know where to begin looking at an engine teardown. I will leave this to the professionals and pay them to do it for me.
There has been known issues with the gen 1 5.2 engine blowing gaskets because lack of material in cylinder 4/8. Supposedly, it was fixed in the gen 2 cast. I don't think it was detonation by the looks of the pistons. i'd say it was the block crack/head gasket that caused this damage just due to the amount of power being made and cylinder pressures.
The flat plane is already high-strung in stock form. Power adders is not what the flat plane can take. Ford chose to go back to cross plane for the GT500 for a reason. Probably costs as much as anything.
I have a question- did you say that this combination of driving on a cold night, with 93 octane fuel in the tank (along with being boosted), were conditions likely to have caused this engine failure? What?? 1- 91+ octane is required 2- What's wrong with driving on a cold night, so long as the engine is sufficiently warmed (at operating temperature) when you start doing pulls and exceeding 4,000 RPM?? Am I missing something?
Hi Jordan, would you buy a gt350, a shelby gt500 or just keep it simple and get a mustang gt ? The 350 has had a lot of engine problems. The shelby gt 500 seems better with less engine issues. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
With the money spent on these cars you would think e85 only for 14 psi.93 pump I would only run 10psi max don’t lower compression get enough octane or back down the boost if you don’t have the octane
Correct me if I am wrong. But wouldn't it be best to spend the extra money and add meth/water injection when adding boost to high compression engines. Also wouldn't good heads make a huge improvement. And just as I am typing this at the end you answered my assumption. Drop some compression. Wish these guys would learn, or at least ones building make some suggestions to owners.
@@Prochargedbeast I'm glad to hear it! That is true, I forgot about the crank. Good luck with the build, I'll definitely be watching all the videos to keep up to date. Not much stuff shown with the voodoo
Well again 2017 is the worst year for the Shelby gt350 I own a 2017 and it’s currently getting a new gen 2 motor with under 11,000 original miles and it was burning 3-4 quarts oil every 1000 miles never been tracked I still have the original tires on it from the show room floor and it 5 out of 8 cylinders had major scoring and blown rings and valve guides and valve seals in the heads were also letting oil by …. Gen 1 motor is complete junk will see what gen 2 brings … good luck love your content
Funny how you can run ferrari and maserati engines to redline all day.and they dont use oil and live on..ford hasnt made a good engine since the boss and cobra jet days..of course cleveland
How it happened really dosent matter. At the end of the of the day the engine took a shit. That’s what happens when you beat on sh__ . Like the saying goes “ if you want to play you have to pay “ $$$$$$
That’s my saying if you want to play you gotta be ready to pay, and I’m glad I planned to build my engine 2 years ago so no sweat off my back I got the money no problem. Now I can build it and turn it up and not worry about it.
@@tylerolson5860 the person who knows all about the voodoo says if you keep on rocking the voodoo on long tubes. You WILL Crack the block. 1 in the front under the pass side head. 2 window the block cylinder 2 and 6. Have fun!!!
In the last vid, comments was flowing in about it happened because of him using 93 octane and how dumb it was. Then i thought, well how do Demons and Hellcats fo 800 to 1k hp on pump gas... I hate youtube comment mechanics🤣
I really would love to see a 5.2 build with Jordan. It's always fun to watch a pro work.
Hell yeah that’s why I went with Jordan over anyone else cause he’s a perfectionist.
I built my entire 2010 5.4 by following Andrew but mostly Jordan and their build videos!! AWESOME!! He literally taught me how to set the play in my crank lash, I used the Molnar Rods Diamond pistons accufab tensioner and chains boundary gear ARP bottom side and head bolts cam gear bolts washers etc but I did my own heads! That’s where I went wrong but I was out of money! If your thinking of building your own go back in Andrew’s archive and follows him and Jordan!
Jordan is one hell of an engine builder, best in the business imo.
That young man really knows his stuff
Can Modular headshop do more tear down builds on their channel or you film them for them? these are enjoyable.
Jordan definitely has vast knowledge of that kind of work . Louis has a great support group to build a better BEAST!
If I ever had a motor built Jordan would be the guy I would go to I love the way he builds his Motors so meticulous
Truly do not understand why folks buy these to supercharge them… this motor was not designed for that. You’re spending 2x what you could for a 5.0 and getting a lesser motor for what your intentions are with it. Ya ever wonder why the GT500 is not a flat plane and doesn’t rev to 8200rpm… this car is the perfect NA machine with a suspension to match
That just simply isn’t true. The owner himself has admitted this was user error. He was using 93 fuel on a cold night street racing, at that boost/power level, he got exactly what he was asking for. People get the gt350 and supercharge it because 8250 rpm’s and lots of power is addicting!
A lot of people just don't understand the shortcomings of a flat plane v8.
@@coltoncaskey5781 so would it be better to use E85?
personally if i was gonna get a gt350 i wouldnt touch the engine. i like it for what it is. i guess some people just always want more though
Why buy a GT350 when there's 5.0 cars running 9's all motor like Steeda ?
I got a 2020 PP1 and raced a GT350 from a roll and he could not pull half a car length on me.
40-150 mph race....
You'll have it back and running better then before
So, what was the reason Lewis was on 93? I know he was running E85 all the times I saw the car!
We were out of e85 in Daytona so I filled it up on 93 till it got back in stock.
@@Prochargedbeast oh damnnnnn that frickin sucks man… Daytona area runs oht of E like that!?
@@DerekBaranProductions yes sir thanks joe Biden lol
Hopefully you sleeve it and keep it a flat plane crank with lower compression if your going with boost. You need the flateplane crank sound.
Yes sir! I chose to sleeve it and lower the compression and I kept the flat plane crank.
Let’s do this!
Sorry to hear man, hope you come back stronger than ever
Great video...I really enjoyed the tear down. Can't wait to see what Louis decides to do next!
Great Video. Great team of experts. MHS looks like htey know what they doing. And no theres not much videos on teardown on this particular videos. I baught a gt350 from auction and came with a bad engine, after doing research i end up buying a new long brock from ford on my dime with discount help from a friend at ford. She’s running strong now. Good luck on the new build motor. I would keep it N/A. 👍
Looking forward to the build. I know who im gonna let build my 5.0 in then future.
Have you tried a heat gun on the back pulleys to expand it a bit, don’t need to get much over 225-240 degrees to expand the back 2 pulleys enough to remove the front press fit pulley.
Oh man sorry to see that. I met you in Florida a few months ago at cars and coffee and boy you have a beautiful car.
Love seeing Jordan work.💯💯💯💯
He's the professional, but he's using his phone for a flashlight. Lmao!
Dude is super cool and I appreciate his knowledge and expertise, but that munchkin voice is killing me.🤣🤣🤣
All in fun though! Life is good when you have great friends and family to help and support you!🙌🥰
I had scroll down to see if anybody commented on this looool
@@Jackslade84 I had to. Lmao!
So from a 2019 gt350 owner who is on the fence about boosting. Am I presumably safer since I have the newest gen engine ? Sucks to see it but I'm sure he'll build it back better.
Jordan is awesome. Great guy. Nice video Andrew.
MHS would be the perfect place to bring in Barras from Australia. Some of these beasts making 2000hp on the street now.
Really want to see this build by jordan, sucks for Louis and the boosted gen.1 Voodoo, too much boost.
It’s all good I’m very happy this happened, I’ve been wanting to pull the engine and have it built for awhile now and now I get to turn it up to 1200+hp. Hell yeah!
Love seeing this content. I had a built 5.4 2v with tfs 38cc heads and mhs did a great job on porting and polishing them. Degreed the cams and made a shit ton of power. Had a D1 procharger on e85. I miss that car. Going to pick up a 15+ gt soon. Lol
Ah, the Voodoo engine never fails to entertain drivers…and mechanics/builders.
cracked block resulted in hydro locked simple as that. Cheap as aluminum blocks no wonder
The dipstick bent was pretty funny. I have 2v out of a 2003 explorer was thinking about doing coyote rods and decent forged pistons for a turbo application say 700 crank hp on pump gas. It has a set of Cushman stage 2 cams in it as well. I got a 306 pushrod motor now in a 90 Foxbody but always wanted a street turbo combo.
I am not even gonna lie. I would not even know where to begin looking at an engine teardown. I will leave this to the professionals and pay them to do it for me.
I pray I never hurt my 5.8 but if something ever happens, I'd love Jordan to build it 🍻
There has been known issues with the gen 1 5.2 engine blowing gaskets because lack of material in cylinder 4/8. Supposedly, it was fixed in the gen 2 cast. I don't think it was detonation by the looks of the pistons. i'd say it was the block crack/head gasket that caused this damage just due to the amount of power being made and cylinder pressures.
That's why I keep my 2016 technology package gt350 with 30k miles on her stock and change the oil every 3-4k miles. Shes running great
The flat plane is already high-strung in stock form. Power adders is not what the flat plane can take. Ford chose to go back to cross plane for the GT500 for a reason. Probably costs as much as anything.
I know right. Even a few of the gt500 engines have popped
@@jeffklonowski6816Naa, unless 1400-1500hp is were things get sketchy with the gt500, other than that the predator is built for pressure.
I have a question- did you say that this combination of driving on a cold night, with 93 octane fuel in the tank (along with being boosted), were conditions likely to have caused this engine failure?
What??
1- 91+ octane is required
2- What's wrong with driving on a cold night, so long as the engine is sufficiently warmed (at operating temperature) when you start doing pulls and exceeding 4,000 RPM??
Am I missing something?
More boost (from cooler denser air) + less octane (he should have been running e85) + high rpm high speed pulls = detonation.
@@MustangLifestyleTV oh, so the octane should have been much higher? I see..
Jordan should make more videos. He does great work 👍🏻
Crazy what a fuel system and e85 can do for a boosted setup 🤷🏻♂️
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
Go with a sleeved block and quality parts for more smiles
K1, weisco combo? Maybe
Sr. Jordan doing a necropsy on the beast.
Great content! My 2017 has 26k on it and I’d like to do something with it. 👍👍
Hi Jordan, would you buy a gt350, a shelby gt500 or just keep it simple and get a mustang gt ? The 350 has had a lot of engine problems. The shelby gt 500 seems better with less engine issues. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Loved ones sitting in on the autopsy. 😢
So basically the tune was not calibrated to handle conditional overboost? Whoever tuned it didnt put in limits or failsafe values? Real Nice.
How much timing and boost??
So what does a built 5.2 cost?
With the money spent on these cars you would think e85 only for 14 psi.93 pump I would only run 10psi max don’t lower compression get enough octane or back down the boost if you don’t have the octane
Get a gen 3 and sleeve it. And it will live
We don’t run E85 for no reason on stock motors
Tooner Knock sensor should caught it
How much boost where you running?
Correct me if I am wrong. But wouldn't it be best to spend the extra money and add meth/water injection when adding boost to high compression engines. Also wouldn't good heads make a huge improvement. And just as I am typing this at the end you answered my assumption. Drop some compression. Wish these guys would learn, or at least ones building make some suggestions to owners.
So what octane should u use 🤔
looks like a jiffy lube oil change did it, 30 bucks just to say it has oil in it, stabilizer moves the decimal point one to the right.
Funny thing is Louis changed his oil with amsoil religiously. Gasp
@@MustangLifestyleTV looks like crappy oil then
Having my Coyote super charged in a couple weeks. All these blown up motor videos are making me nervous lol
Good video.
So how much would a gen 3 block run someone?
Sleeved gen3 block is 3k
Please sleeve the block
"Could be worse" has a cracked block... I guess the heads are good still so there is that, but still. Big oof
Heads are good and the crank is good everything else will be replaced with stronger components and sleeved block can’t wait to turn this thing up!
@@Prochargedbeast I'm glad to hear it! That is true, I forgot about the crank. Good luck with the build, I'll definitely be watching all the videos to keep up to date. Not much stuff shown with the voodoo
why the heckfire run 93 when you're running on the ragged edge with such a pricey build?
Cause I can? And I have the extra money to build it just send it!
@@Prochargedbeast welp that is A reason lol
You guys rock
Compression needs to be 9-1.
lmao at the dipstick
Jordan 💯🔥💰👍
How much is a voodoo block ?
Like 2k from ford performance but they said it’s a 5.2l “ coyote “ not voodoo for some reason
You may as well start looking for a flooded eighteen or newer flooded gt . That way you and lewis can both have a win.
Cam phasers 😟
93 octane happened
Well again 2017 is the worst year for the Shelby gt350 I own a 2017 and it’s currently getting a new gen 2 motor with under 11,000 original miles and it was burning 3-4 quarts oil every 1000 miles never been tracked I still have the original tires on it from the show room floor and it 5 out of 8 cylinders had major scoring and blown rings and valve guides and valve seals in the heads were also letting oil by …. Gen 1 motor is complete junk will see what gen 2 brings … good luck love your content
I have a 2017. Motor consumed oil and failed at 6k miles. Warranty replacement with gen 2. New motor has 6k miles, consumes no oil. Super happy now.
@@AA-nf2jl glad to hear that I’m hoping for the same and good luck
Man you don’t shut up when you are watching someone else do all the work.
13 psi on a high compression 20k engine on 93 octane? SMH.
I’d be mad as fuck.
Goddamn, that voice is a nightmare. I wish I was deaf
Dude seems to know what’s up. But i guess first impressions are the big thing for some 💩
The mechanic need to lay off the helium
Funny how you can run ferrari and maserati engines to redline all day.and they dont use oil and live on..ford hasnt made a good engine since the boss and cobra jet days..of course cleveland
Really dude? 12:1 compression ,93 and 13 lbs of boost? This dude needs a better tuner and better friends… 🤦♂️
He was told that he should only be racing it on E85.
@@MustangLifestyleTV he should’ve listened man. These engines flow too well for their own good. Well, time to go build it
How it happened really dosent matter. At the end of the of the day the engine took a shit. That’s what happens when you beat on sh__ . Like the saying goes “ if you want to play you have to pay “ $$$$$$
It only matters if you want it fixed right the first time.
That’s my saying if you want to play you gotta be ready to pay, and I’m glad I planned to build my engine 2 years ago so no sweat off my back I got the money no problem. Now I can build it and turn it up and not worry about it.
ALL 5.2 voodoo motors are balanced. When you remove one weight , the headders, the motor is not balanced and YOU WILL Crack the block.
The headers?? Huh ?
@@Ws6Ms 🤣
@Chuck Coop What in the hillbilly cousin fvcker are you saying? LOL
@@tylerolson5860 the person who knows all about the voodoo says if you keep on rocking the voodoo on long tubes. You WILL Crack the block. 1 in the front under the pass side head. 2 window the block cylinder 2 and 6. Have fun!!!
@@chuckcoop9173 Says who so I can personally tell them they are full of Sh1t
Damm it sucks that happened but it could’ve been way worse
In the last vid, comments was flowing in about it happened because of him using 93 octane and how dumb it was. Then i thought, well how do Demons and Hellcats fo 800 to 1k hp on pump gas... I hate youtube comment mechanics🤣
Yes we believe it was too much boost pressure that caused the weak block to fail not just 93octane.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That motor is such a Karen.. 🙄
Yikes
Pull out the credit card and cry once ! Over build it
plastic oil pan with a built in pick up tube that can't be cleaned another stupid ford design.