Haven't heard of the movement yet, but they definitely have to get to it, I bet many people keep being fined for riding powerful ebikes even without breaking the speed limit
Does the government force car manufacturers to produce cars only capable of 55mph? Freedom is inherently dangerous plus speed limits were never about safety but rather revenue. I want the freedom to choose between obeying the rules or living outside them, otherwise how would we even know what freedom is? Additionally I need to be able to out run any law enforcement that may seek to restrain me from my pursuit of happiness.
Well actually, vehicle are often governed. Additionally, most transportation laws aren't designed to keep your dumb ass safe. They are designed to protect people from your people like you. Those willing to run from the police and risk other's well being in your pursuit of "freedom". People like you are the exact reason we will never truly be free.
@@saltwaterrook4638 I just happen to be my people like me and as a people I too demand some of this protection you speak of. They can just protect me at higher speeds than other users of the public ways. That was a bit tongue n' cheek, fleeing from the law in pursuit of happiness is only advisable if they're coming after yourself specifically and not just for fun or afterschool pastime' Particularly when my constitutional rights are in question. Something I believe is every Americans sacred duty lest we spiral further into the Home of the incarcerated, land of the police state.
This video is like so many other e-bike videos. It mixes up widely varying prices and motor powers, in no particular order. That makes it difficult for the viewer. It also randomly mixes up metric and British specs. How about a video that groups bikes to price ranges, or motor power ranges? Or perhaps a video that orders the bikes by price, or by motor power? Also, this video randomly mixes street bikes and off road bikes. It is a pretty good bet that a buyer wants either one or the other.
Thanks for the info. I think that there is far too much government regulation in several areas powered bicycle designation being one of them that infringe upon freedom and liberty. If they must regulate speed then perhaps 60 would be a useful maximum before licensing.
I had been considering an electric bike...but now I'm not sure I want one...the reasons I would want one may be in jeopardy considering these developments...I have ridden motorcycles at far over a hundred and bicycles faster than some would consider sane...so it's not the risk factor...it's that I want to be able to ride casually in public places without allot of infringement from law enforcement ...I'm not sure that things will stay that way now
There is one more thing that you should take into consideration - the bikes from this video are top of the line products with great top speeds. Lower spec bikes tend to be more affordable and suitable for city commuting. However, if you are looking for a smaller replacement for a motorbike, then these are the ones to go with.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews Over the years I owned several very lightweight motorcycles that easily exceeded 100 mph. Granted they could have been licensed for the street by adding a lighting kit they were way too powerful and achieved much more speed than their lightweight frames could safely handle.
If they don't make them faster the American consumer undoubtedly will I know because I am one and I've never had any machine that I didn't try to make faster tricycles bicycles motorcycles cars trucks now I have to get an ebike and you guessed it I'm going to make it faster.
If you got a house,car and the extra money I say treat yourself and enjoy life. Oh and make sure you also have the life insurance, you might needed when getting one of these bikes .
Nice job on your presentation! Yes, I am all for the companies to do what they do best, making the best well-rounded bike for all terrain, that goes for distance, long life of a single charge, how fast it can be recharged, and top speed they can achieve?? whether we want to admit it, it will be asked for from the consumer and who pays the bill, the customer!!? Good riding and keep the rubber on the road!? Big Sam
at this point i'd just rather ride a motorcycle they look cooler and are cheaper or cost the same as these, i just wanted an e-bike for affordability and the amount of less regulation.
You CAn Build your own E bike for way less I Make Fat Bike ebikes with 1500 watt mid drives and 20 Amp Hour for 2000 bucks they Go anywhere and are very comfortable to ride
I dont mind, just hope people dont get hurt in the race for higher speeds, ebikes cant protect you at 60 mph, after all. What do you think is a safe speed for an electric bicycle?
The government doesn't care if an eBike goes faster. Anything above 30 MPH requires a title, tags and insurance. Europe's cut off is a laughable 15 MPH.
+@@automotiveterritory : You have put a good question there bud....My current ebike gives me plenty of speed, fun as well as pleasure especially in PAS mode....is just 'so great'. Besides, if I want to have more fun or challenge someone, it beats actually if not all then most of the normal racer cyclists on the road that they always trying to show off all times....I've beat so many many of them and they couldn't stand a chance and my bike is not even the fastest. However, to answer your question, I would say up to 28 or 3oMph max is more than enough to get you where you need to be especially if riding in the City. Countryside, offroad, highway and mountain etc... that is a totally different story and 'perhaps' you could go for a higher speed which is fair enough. Having said that I must say, I was super pleased with the above-mentioned speed that based on my personal experience.
@@CANADA-fq9fh I couldn't have said it better! I just ordered my Ebike "Stealth" and can't wait to whip some ass on the beach ride where these cyclists show off. It's going to be fun watching their eyes in shock...😂🤣
Quite a lot of people seem to be complaining about the price of these e-bikes: they are not standard bikes at all, but more of a technology demonstrator. It is like buying a Bugatti Veyron - zero use in daily life as you won't be allowed to use even 1/3 of its potential anywhere on public roads without losing your driving licence, but some people who have crap load of money will still buy one. The technology used in these machines will then be applied in the production of mainstream bikes which means we will have better and more reliable e-bikes. In the near future all motorcycles will also be powered by batteries and these e-bikes are making sure combustion engines retire to the museums sooner than later.
Yes, you understand the situation perfectly. These are the Bugattis or Ferraris of the electric bicycle world. Like not everyone needs or can afford a Ferrari, let alone a Bugatti, not everyone will need to have such a powerful bicycle, especially when there are humbler options out there.
I just went and made my own. I took a Santa Cruz superlight and put I'm a 52.2 v battery to a BBSHD motor. I ride it highly illegally. It weighs maybe 50 lbs and i can race cars with it cost me $5000 or so to make. I have had it to 50 but the acceleration is insane.
It awesome that there are people, who could put their knowledge and skill to use. Too bad the majority either lacks the expertise or has enough time to take on such a project. Your setup sounds dope though, but still gotta be careful.
Good for you if you have the skill you can make a fast bike much cheaper yourself. Everything fun is illegal but only to the corrupt goverment because they can not suck money from peoples wallets.
Graphene batteries are indeed a very promising technology that seems to be at the doorstep. Though, i am sceptical about Goodenough's new battery. Sounds like an attempt to grab attention
Unfortunately cruise control would make them electrically powered motorbikes in many countries. In the UK cruise control on a motorbike is frowned upon for safety reasons. IE a car will stall but if a bike goes over the wheel can keep spinning at whatever speed. With a normal throttle at least you are on tickover.
I my understanding, these models were created by the pure lowers of high speed but not for the average person. By creating such products, the manufacturers try to show the level at which the current technology is. I highly doubt that there will be a lot of people, who'd enjoy riding a bicycle at over 70 mph. At the same time there are lots of people, who'd enjoy bicycles with slightly humbler performance, pedal assist feature and a longer range. I recently reviewed some of these in my video about the most affordable electric bikes, did you get a chance to check it out?
With the rise of electric motorcyes and electric bicycles the line is getting blurred. What makes the difference between the two? Pedals? Some of the electric bicycles don't even have any, weight just as much go just as fast and cost even more. So much power and speed in such small light frames for sure opens the doors to new technologies and improvements but it is also more dangerous. Use at your own risk. It will not be too long until that will get more regulated too sadly. But those vehicles that come in different shape, sizes and purposes can be very useful in many other applications as well. Being light weight and capable to be charged off of solar could solve many problems like city traffic, emergency back up transportation that can be stored in a bigger vehicle in case of failure (motorhome, bus, boat, trunk of a car, people with disabilities , etc) or just for fun. Regulate all that. Good luck. To have pedals with possible pedal assist can be good for exercise too and for older people as well. It could be motivation for the obese to get some exercise and have fun at the same time. Definitely more than seating in a car or on a motorcycle. Being electric would also help diminish pollution. Look at how successful the "bird" has become. To cover distances too long to go on foot but too short to use a car with the benefit of some exercise included it can be a life-saver. This electric vehicle revolution from cars to bicycles is in a way a blessing and if too many regulations are slapped on it that could discourage progress, it should be left alone to grow to its potential.
Some of these e bikes are more than fast enough for a person to lose the police in no time at all. The police will need to up grade their ability to keep up with the future technology that keeps improving very fast.
The faster the better. There's no limit on speed of unregulated vehicles like horses, bicycles, buggies, pedal cars, etc. Ebikes are no different. There's no registration or title for them and cannot be considered a commercial vehicle in any way. Keep on pedaling!
Not for me. I’m looking for something that’s more of a “sleeper”. It needs to look like a bicycle, but perform like a motorcycle. These mostly look like full blown electric motorcycles
infinitycrops I can make one for you but I don’t advise making a fast bike out of any old mountain bike I have a 1000w motor on my normal bike and I wouldn’t want it any faster you just need a good strong donor bike to go faster
I think with the rise of LEPVs we’re going to see a push to up the legal speed for unregistered rides. I graphed the speed-gradient relationships for different powers of motor at an assumed mass and the simple truth is the legal limit of 250W is way too low for any sensible ride if you live in a hilly area. Many people use 1kW motors and just stick to the speed regs and are completely safe but it makes going up hills a lot easier.
The price of an electric bike should not be very high. Only then the electric bike will become a real city transport. And most importantly, in cities there should be an infrastructure that allows charging electric bicycles near the houses of schools of shops and offices.
The idea of bicycles going at 50+miles per hour may sound exciting but personally i find that a scary prospect. Also i could not justify the price. I would rather have an electric motorcycle.
Talk about really really cool scooters! This totally eliminates the need for True cycling. You can just cruise around all day and not have to do any of the work of a real cyclist! It's great!
Since these bicycles have pedals, I don't think that they'd become a replacement for scooters. There are still many people out there, who enjoy cycling. These electric bikes let them enjoy riding with and without the electric motor assist.
It was the Bush administration here in the US that decided ebikes should be limited to one horsepower. 746w=1hp. (rounded to 750w.) The bush family made their fortune in big oil and It doesn't take a genius to see their ulterior motive. They don't want the ebike to replace millions of gasoline vehicles. They would lose a fortune!
90% of people can't ride a bike or don't know how to ride that good and 20 mph is what most can handle , without freaking out. So the rest of us that know how to ride have to be told how fast we can ride . Just like anything else ,they set rules for those that should not be on a bike in the first place, and it is all i heard on this video about how speed is unsafe , i wish people would understand if you don't want a fast bike then don't buy one that is fast ,but don't take away the right's for those that can ride , hell i can run 17 mph maybe no one should run , i raced motorcycles and own one for the street a HD 1390 cc that i have got it up to 145 mph but i did it in a place that i could do it safely , and if i want a ELECTRIC bike that goes 60 plus mph i should have that right, just obey the speed laws and know when and were to ride that fast ,NEXT TIME YOU MAKE A VIDEO MAKE IT FOR THOSE THAT KNOW HOW TO RIDE,GET IT ,and i have owned a electric bike now for 14 years, i have a video on here from years ago about fixing the back tire on a electric bike, i am going to buy another one that goes over 60 plus mph and i am looking at the electric motorcycle too,
Everyone that says they don't understand the appeal of an electric bike 90% of you probably are close to Good public transportation or have a car. I lost my license a few years ago and can't drive. And I live in an area with terrible public transportation...so my electric bike is a God send. I rode a regular bike for years ... But if it's hot out and I had to go somewhere nice...I'd show up all sweaty and nasty ..not anymore. If I get home from work and I'm exhausted but need to go up to the store there's no car to hop in... But my ebike breezes me where I need to go. I'm also 54 with high cholesterol so I'm not looking to overdo it if Im running late and keel over in the middle of the road. So all u idiots that love to tell me when they see me on the train with my bike." Oh your cheating...I have a regular bike why do u need an electric bike?... Then you non chalantly walk into the parking lot to your comfortable cars...... shut your pie holes.
LOL! That's why your girlfriend visits me... because I disagree with you. Stamina (range) is way more important than speed kiddo. Better learn that quick or get an electric motorcycle... and a new girlfriend.
It's always amazing to me that cars have no legal restrictions on speed, yet many governments limit the speed of ebikes, relatively safe, especially for people other than the rider. Why would we limit the safer option? Culture and habit, definitely not logic. Thank you for the review of these amazing bicycles!
Thank you for stopping by on my channel. True, Kraken, though looking rather simple and rough, should indeed be a fun ride, especially with that insane top speed. What would you choose, electric bicycle or gasoline motorcycle.?
All cars and motorcycles are made to run over 120 mph. But speeds that are allowed are less than half in most places, so why limit the speed of a bicycle that is no where near that. All they have to do is regulate the speed just like anywhere else.
its my assumption that big oil and auto would like to keep pedal/ebikes illegal above 20mph. The sooner the public realizes they can avoid traffic congestion and expensive fuels with an affordable powerful efficient mode of transport, the sooner these companies go into the red
Very nice bike list. Definitely check out the Escapade Rampage if you like faaast EBikes. Hits 65 mph in nooo time! Only $4k! Must check Escapade E-Bikes out 🤙🤙
I Rather have The ERockit pedal assistance Electric bicycle and M55 Terminus Pedal Assistance Electric Bicycle 50mph and Up Mph+60+70+80+90+100+120+130+140+150+160+170+180+190+200+mph
totally disagree with that... yesterday followed one of them. he was doing 40 mph in a 30 limit. no helmet,no protection,no reg,no insurance. should not be on public road.
People like you is what is wrong with America, you seem to think you have the right to impose your values on others . You don’t have that right but you could choose to live those values in your own personal life. Freedom is not projecting your values on others, stay in california or China, just don’t come to my state.
@@scottcarlon6318 don't know what "state you own"..but you don't tell me where I going and what I doing. I have the right to go to "your state " and tell my opinion.The law is for protect people from reckless cyclists ( even local or foreigner)who could make a bad injury on you..watch your words because there's a law in your states and there's an international law as well... I'm thankful to China and Thailand where my martial arts from and you should be thankful to my country made America great
All electric bicycles should have a top speed of 40 miles per hour for safety reasons. Never less. I've ridden all types of bikes for over 40 years and the one thing I've noticed is that having the speed when needed is key to safety. Granted, there are speed demons 😈 of all sorts and types, but having that speed when it counts is crucial. I know how to ride safely. Accidents happen not because of speed but because of carelessness, stupidity and youth (let's be honest). So no 20 miles per hour limit for a bicycle is not favorable for anyone unless they design a road for bicycles only, or all vehicles to be limited to 20 miles per hour 🤔...
Plenty of bike paths and parkland that are not government controlled not requiring registered transport so as long as Dirt Bikes have somewhere to ride the E-bikes will too. I recent picked up 9 Dewalt 12V 2.0Amphour batteries so I can presumably power something 12v for 18 hrs for 6v for 36hrs less resistance? I have a lot to learn about electrical motoring, see if there is an online calculator? Great bikes
I thought that it would be the right way to go but it seems that laws are limiting them by output. if I understand everything correctly, bikes that have an output higher than allowed, cannot be used.
Something that weighs over 100 lb and can go 60mph isnt really a bicycle anymore is it? Its a really powerful moped. Interesting to see how blurred the line between motorcycle and bicycle is becoming.
The lines are blurred for sure. These electric bicycles are a bit overpowered and could outrun many mopeds but the question is are they as comfortable, safe and convenient?
yes and legalities are sure to follow...after all...who wants to share a sidewalk with an electric bike that can go 60 mph?....at this rate much of the appeal of electric bikes will be lost...think ...mandatory insurance.... motorcycle drivers licence rating...severe restrictions on where you can use it ...ect
I have an electric bike that is legal 750 watts and have been 47 down hill pedaling hard which makes you wonder what these are really capable of with pedaling down a hill
for non powered bikes ..it depends on gearing but....at some point it becomes impossible to turn the pedals any faster ...that is...there is just no getting your legs to go ANY faster...for me that turned out to be about 50-60 mph with a high pressure skinny tired racing bike with 21 speed gearing...something like 52 tooth front and 14 rear driving 26 inch wheels and maybe a 5% downgrade...given a motor...all bets are off
Tom shlump drive means you could pedal way in to the 70 to 80 mph or more I am a bicycle mechanic and own 10 a C e-bikes I think it's dangerous I have owned a Motorized bike that topped out at 74.1 mph but it was a race bike I can't imagine riding that way on the road Uber dangerous I live in Tennessee where gearing low might be more important than top speed I'll stick to my 30ish mph n flats
If any bike companies should happen to read this, if you're transporting one person oh, and you are charging $9,000, it had better fly. And I don't mean Sly as in go very fast, I mean that thing had better get off the ground.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews .... My friend. ...are you a millionaire? In my world $4700 for a bicycle. .electric or not. ...is not even remotely affordable, and that's the lowest priced one on this list. The highest priced one at $14500? I've bought cars for $2500 and less, and got more than 10 years of reliable usage out of them! The most I've ever paid for a motorcycle was $3800....and that was for a 2 year old 750cc Kawasaki! You can easily purchase a new moped or scooter for $1500 , so I'm not seeing any value here. I'll have to say, they're cool looking, and pretty impressive. ...but outrageously priced. I'm not a rich guy.....but if I'm putting out that kind of cash for a vehicle , then I would have to be able to use it on a daily basis, regardless of weather. Can't do that with a bicycle or motorcycle bro, there's things called rain, snow, high winds....etc. I'm not seeing the benefits versus the money spent! Interesting video, good production, well done!
The thing is that getting a used or new gas motorcycle is not an alternative in this situation. Electric bicycles are zero emission, so they can be ridden in cities (especially those cities that are currently planning to ban any ICE vehicles). So in the nearest future the only option for such cities (or certain parts of the city) would be walking or getting an emission free vehicle.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews , In America, there would be a civil revolution if ANY City or Municipality attempted to ban I.C.E. vehicles! Not to mention that the State government wouldn't allow that anyway, due to the massive loss of revenue for tags, title, and registrations! This is why we have emissions testing that is done on a bi-annual basis. If the vehicle tests "Dirty" ....you will have to repair it, and be retested, or your registration will be suspended. The comparison to an I.C.E. bike or car was a point of reference to the pricing, not the zero emissions factor. But I understand your point! Cheers!
The legislation won't be universal and I don't see laws that will apply to all cities in the near future. But I definitely see benefits for certain districts or neighborhood pushing some kinds of regulations (this would jack up the prices for real estate for sure because who wouldn't want to life in zero emission environment?)
Oh yeah, it will. It may seem that ICE are more convenient and there are many gas stations at this time but we all noticed that gas prices started going up, again. So in the long run. there is no way that having something that runs on gas in the better option.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews and this ebikes are also amazing and badass not only u feel good with them but you can have some really adventurous times with it in hard terrains even bette with a friend and it also keeps you fit and strong so im all about ebikes>cars really good video man! I have my eyes on neematic that bike is some serious business!
Just get a Sondors for 10% of the price of these bikes with just as good of performance. Seriously, these bikes are MASSIVELY overpriced. Sondors is the only realistically priced e-bike on the market unless you build one yourself.
Sondors is indeed a great bike, but it definitely cant ride at 60 mph, can it? ;) Check out our episode about the cheapest electric bicycles on sale today, Sondord was featured there, follow the link below: ruclips.net/video/LW5jDuqhwm0/видео.html
What's the name of the tasted electric bicycle in the top 5 that go so fast even without peddling and that I can easily fix a flat or take the wheel off to change the inner tube ?
These are an expensive way to get yourself pummeled. Most people will say nice. By the way i love my entry level ebike I've lost seven kegs in a couple a months.
@@vondahe hahahaha. Na mate I couldn't even drink seven cans these days, always been a two pot screamer. Wouldn't mind one of those fast bikes although they're a bit expensive.
I might be jinxing myself but I think that the Limit of 28 mph (The lawful limit in a lot of places in the USA) is very reasonable ... for me that is, and or a vehicle that doesn’t require a license
The question was, "Should ebike manufacturers make ebikes faster than most allowable speed limits?" A foolish question since there are areas off road, private properties and other areas where speed limits not imposed. After all, would anybody want a car or motorcycle with limited speed?
Thanks for stopping by. Your comment is very reasonable. Hopefully with the development of tech, we will be seeing more and more anti-theft devices that will keep out expensive bikes from being stolen. If you werent cautious abut your bike being stolen, which one from the lineup would you choose?
I would prefer an electric assist that can be employed on long upgrades rather than full electric power. Regenerative braking would be nice to extend battery range.
I can recommend watching these episodes form my channel. they might interest you Top 10 Electric Mountain Bicycles with Pedal Assist Technology (2018 Buying Guide) ruclips.net/video/JAYN8b4HEBw/видео.html 10 Cheapest Electric Bicycles You Can Afford (Review of Bikes Starting at $699) ruclips.net/video/LW5jDuqhwm0/видео.html
My front tire blew at 30. Let me tell you your going to face plant and no act on your part is going to stop you from face planting. So make sure your tires are top speed rated because it bites bad. When it pops the bars you won’t hold and it lays flat in .2 seconds. 😆
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews No I probably should’ve clarified that I converted a $700 Cannondale Mountain bike. I upgraded the tire tubes only after it blew. It’s definitely not one of these expensive factory bikes I’m sure they have speed rated tires or at least I would hope so. Because it’s a real kick in the pants when you have a front tire blow lol I sold my KLE 650 street enduro for that reason I am never going to allow high-speed front blowout on a two wheeled vehicle ever again. It sucks bad doesn’t matter if your Arnold Schwarzenegger you’re not going to control that bike when that front tire blows. I’ve had 15 motorcycles I’ve never had it happen before but I’m not going to risk it. And when you go sideways onto the pavement you’re not going to keep your face off that pavement either with your hands. ( just painting the big picture ) I dam near broke my jaw. I think 15 mph is good. Good nuff for me anyway.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews I’m pretty sure these $5000 and up electric off-road bikes I have motorcycle tires I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anybody planting their face from the front blowout or if it’s even possible with a thicker tire?
I agree that a two-wheel vehicle is a rather risky business, you can fall at 5 mph and break your jaw. I tried not to scare off my viewers about these bikes being super dangerous, but I still mentioned that it is up to everyone to make sure they stay safe. Hope you never get to have your ride let you down in the future and that manufacturers of these bikes made sure that the tires are thick enough not to blow up at 60 mph promised top speed.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews Unless your an adult just peddling around Anything more ? Having a helmet is a dam good idea still won’t help your chin but at least you roll a avoid it. People just won’t know until they actually have it happen. I was riding 25 miles a day my trek road bike no helmet ever and did it twenty years. Motored my big semi off road bike and bam ! First Dam trip I put it up years ago never road it again even after stepping up my tubes to extra thick. Riders assume they can control them handle bars no way lol. It’s amazing how violent it gets in one second.
100 k for the money it should be made from gold ! What a rip thousands on a pissy slow bike BAD VALUE AND STANDARDS ITS RIPP ALL ! RATHER A REAL BIKE AT HALF THE PRICE !
The question that should be asked is, when do to many rules and regulation become more dangerous than personal judgment of one's abilities? In 2014, autobahns carried 31% of motorized road traffic while accounting for 11% of Germany's traffic deaths. The autobahn fatality rate of 1.6 deaths per billion travel-kilometres compared favorably with the 4.6 rate on urban streets and 6.5 rate on rural roads. Cheers!
The only reason for the restrictions on speed is the auto makers have a genuine fear of any motorized transportation powered with electricity. Both auto and motorcycle industries are pushing the limits to pack as much horsepower as they can into the frame but as soon as an electric bike travels over 25mph then there has to be limits.
Randy Seelbach What? So you think that the auto industry is afraid that an e-bike is going to take the place of an automobile? Hey honey, load the kids on the bike, we're going shopping.
Blueknight, I have no idea where you live but here in Europe the e-bike stands a chance of replacing at least a forth of the cars used for commuting to work. I don't care what country you live in, if you stand at a stop light at eight o'clock in the morning and observe the cars you would notice that about 90 percent of the cars have only one person in that car. It is not filled with kids going shopping. There are already companies here in Germany that are leasing e-bikes for the employees to commute to work. So yes, I do think that the auto industry has a genuine fear of the number of cars that will be replaced by e-bikes.
Here in Europe the e-bike stands a chance of replacing at least a forth of the cars used for commuting to work. Really? What about during inclement weather like heavy rain,snow, very cold, freezing rain just to name a few? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against e-bikes, but they are more of a fair weather type of transportation.
Yes I think the electric bike faster the better. To go 10mph is very boring. As long you have experience with fast electric bikes it's fine. Is a great feeling no wing that you have power. It also can get you out of trouble on the roads. The only problem with fast electric bike prices. They are making far to much profit. It doesn't give a person who really likes electric bike a chance to buy. It's just the case of hoping you can come in to sum money to buy. The other option is buy a kit wch some are faster and half the price. Personally I would prefer a electric bike than a motor car. I hope electric bikes are the future. Plarese bring prises down. The cheaper the bike the more you sell hence more profit
I've not timed it but less than 10 sec for sure. I can almost maintain 25 mph. I weigh 212lb so that is a lot of torque. The main reason I can go fast is that my front sprocket is 32T and my back is 9T. But all that aside it's not possible for me to compete with these Ebikes.
Stay in great shape and electric bikes will always be there for you in case you need to relax. I believe you do tricks on your BMX? No ebikes are ready for that yet, electric equipment is too fragile
Thanks for the comment. I believe it is due to weight saving. Check out our episode about electric fat bikes, some models have pretty comfortable seats: ruclips.net/video/sR6VaJLdEcM/видео.html
Thank you for stopping by on my channel. I truly appreciate the suggestion. Will look closer into this bike. How did you like the rest of the lineup? Did we miss any other cool models?
I don't know many manufacturers, but I'm thinking about buying an E-Bike and have seen the swiss manufacturer B2G, whoms "Red RSR" surely belongs in this list. If I buy an E-Bike, it will not be that radical, but more than 500W and more than 25kph is a must. The "Blue XTR Speciale 3.1" by B2G (2800W / 65kph / 96Nm) would be nice, but te B2G bikes are not the cheapest... ;) (Btw: If You like Fat-E-bikes, they've got one with insane 160Nm of torque!)
Woooh.... love all but prices range is out of my budget limit .. I guess 2025-2030 or something someone can make the same quality in half price tags...
While it may be technically possible to pump even more power to these bicycles, I don't think that they would be safe. We are talking motorcycle speeds already. As for the price, yes they could be a bit more affordable.
Thank you for your comment and passion about bikes! Yes, the chain will eventually rust if it is not regularly cleaned, oiled properly, and if the bike is not stored under fairly dry conditions. There are plenty of electric bicycles that do not require a license, we will feature the most affordable models in the future episodes, stay tuned!
we are with you on this one. Cheaper batteries will simply crumble the ICE engines and become a lightyear leap into the future. Which is your favorite most advanced bike from the lineup?
Not cheaper batteries, we need a new technology for batteries, LiPo is pretty top notch now, but still shitty. Slow to charge, has danger of fire (but we can put that on the side) and "bad" energy density. It´s realy top notch, respect, love, kisses and whatever, but still shitty. Save, little fusion reactors would be the overkill. Run your vehicle 50 Years on one charge, think about that ;-) Or transmitt electricity from the atmosphere to the ground, a lightning could power Las Vegas for at least a year. Just some ideas...
Appreciate the comment. As much as I would love to have fusion powered cars, that concept would be to costly, easier and chaeper to make large reactors and distribute power. As for the lightning harvesting, I have to disagree with you here. Lightning bolts are much less powerful than you think and harvesting them will be economically ineffective. Check out this wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvesting_lightning_energy
I don’t think it should be any regulator’s business limiting anything. The item should be what the customer wants. There are laws in place everywhere, and it’s the regulator’s business to enforce the laws. Beyond that, they should stay out of the way or stop being hypocrites about not limiting every vehicles top end when destined for the public roadways.
Keep making them faster more powerful and increased riding distance to maximize performance.
Great video
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Keep making them faster! The E-Bike industry should lobby for less restrictions.
Haven't heard of the movement yet, but they definitely have to get to it, I bet many people keep being fined for riding powerful ebikes even without breaking the speed limit
Does the government force car manufacturers to produce cars only capable of 55mph? Freedom is inherently dangerous plus speed limits were never about safety but rather revenue. I want the freedom to choose between obeying the rules or living outside them, otherwise how would we even know what freedom is?
Additionally I need to be able to out run any law enforcement that may seek to restrain me from my pursuit of happiness.
Well actually, vehicle are often governed. Additionally, most transportation laws aren't designed to keep your dumb ass safe. They are designed to protect people from your people like you. Those willing to run from the police and risk other's well being in your pursuit of "freedom". People like you are the exact reason we will never truly be free.
@@saltwaterrook4638 I just happen to be my people like me and as a people I too demand some of this protection you speak of. They can just protect me at higher speeds than other users of the public ways.
That was a bit tongue n' cheek, fleeing from the law in pursuit of happiness is only advisable if they're coming after yourself specifically and not just for fun or afterschool pastime' Particularly when my constitutional rights are in question. Something I believe is every Americans sacred duty lest we spiral further into the Home of the incarcerated, land of the police state.
I think it would be wise that people stop giving up their Liberties for arbitrary ideas of safety
Totally agree.
*Salutes D Perry* "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
Couldnt agree more
D Perry please become law maker
+@@cherrycolalola6345 Sometimes
Faster is the quest how you maneuver this fast machine is totally up to u
Have a look at the greyp g6.2 e bike, not fast like these bikes but is definitely the best on the market right now.......beautiful
Thanks for the suggestion. The new Greyp will be featured in my upcoming video. Stay tuned!
This video is like so many other e-bike videos. It mixes up widely varying prices and motor powers, in no particular order. That makes it difficult for the viewer. It also randomly mixes up metric and British specs. How about a video that groups bikes to price ranges, or motor power ranges? Or perhaps a video that orders the bikes by price, or by motor power? Also, this video randomly mixes street bikes and off road bikes. It is a pretty good bet that a buyer wants either one or the other.
Thanks for the info. I think that there is far too much government regulation in several areas powered bicycle designation being one of them that infringe upon freedom and liberty. If they must regulate speed then perhaps 60 would be a useful maximum before licensing.
I'm concerned about protection, though. 60 mph is quite a lot.
I had been considering an electric bike...but now I'm not sure I want one...the reasons I would want one may be in jeopardy considering these developments...I have ridden motorcycles at far over a hundred and bicycles faster than some would consider sane...so it's not the risk factor...it's that I want to be able to ride casually in public places without allot of infringement from law enforcement ...I'm not sure that things will stay that way now
There is one more thing that you should take into consideration - the bikes from this video are top of the line products with great top speeds. Lower spec bikes tend to be more affordable and suitable for city commuting. However, if you are looking for a smaller replacement for a motorbike, then these are the ones to go with.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews Over the years I owned several very lightweight motorcycles that easily exceeded 100 mph. Granted they could have been licensed for the street by adding a lighting kit they were way too powerful and achieved much more speed than their lightweight frames could safely handle.
Were they lighter than the bicycles from this video?
Keep making those bikes as fast as science allows
We'd just have to be more careful riding them.
I think, that just like every other, means of mobility we come up with. There will always be those, who want to make it go faster!
Keep making them faster and 💪. thanks
20 MPH Sucks
@@MichaelJosephJr934 ''I can't drive 55'' - Sammy Hager -
If they don't make them faster the American consumer undoubtedly will I know because I am one and I've never had any machine that I didn't try to make faster tricycles bicycles motorcycles cars trucks now I have to get an ebike and you guessed it I'm going to make it faster.
If you got a house,car and the extra money I say treat yourself and enjoy life. Oh and make sure you also have the life insurance, you might needed when getting one of these bikes .
True. These are no toys, but rather Lamborghinis of bicycles.
faster is fine if its built for the speed they have the 20 mile per hour law to keep people buying cars.
Francis Altieri, that is so true
good point but illegal is still a sick bird
Nice job on your presentation! Yes, I am all for the companies to do what they do best, making the best well-rounded bike for all terrain, that goes for distance, long life of a single charge, how fast it can be recharged, and top speed they can achieve?? whether we want to admit it, it will be asked for from the consumer and who pays the bill, the customer!!? Good riding and keep the rubber on the road!? Big Sam
Too bad these companies are under significant pressure these days, as new regulations are being introduced to limit the power output of their bikes.
Love them all keep making these speedy bikes!
Too bad that there are rules and regulations that will make them fit for offroad use only.
at this point i'd just rather ride a motorcycle they look cooler and are cheaper or cost the same as these, i just wanted an e-bike for affordability and the amount of less regulation.
You cannot ride a motorcycle on sidewalks in the park. These are bicycles and in most places are treated as such.
Ride at 20 where you must and then haul ass where you can.
You CAn Build your own E bike for way less I Make Fat Bike ebikes with 1500 watt mid drives and 20 Amp Hour for 2000 bucks they Go anywhere and are very comfortable to ride
@@billlanphar4629 How do you make them? I would like to make one or at least buy one from you if I like them
dominique eure just go online and find a kit! Or watch a tutorial on how to build one with a kid, there are many.
Make those motors faster and faster. Don't let any government get involved in the regulation of ebikes! It's the only way ebiking will expand.
I dont mind, just hope people dont get hurt in the race for higher speeds, ebikes cant protect you at 60 mph, after all. What do you think is a safe speed for an electric bicycle?
As bicycles they are in most places limited to 20-25 mph when on public walking thoroughfares.
The government doesn't care if an eBike goes faster. Anything above 30 MPH requires a title, tags and insurance. Europe's cut off is a laughable 15 MPH.
+@@automotiveterritory : You have put a good question there bud....My current ebike gives me plenty of speed, fun as well as pleasure especially in PAS mode....is just 'so great'. Besides, if I want to have more fun or challenge someone, it beats actually if not all then most of the normal racer cyclists on the road that they always trying to show off all times....I've beat so many many of them and they couldn't stand a chance and my bike is not even the fastest. However, to answer your question, I would say up to 28 or 3oMph max is more than enough to get you where you need to be especially if riding in the City. Countryside, offroad, highway and mountain etc... that is a totally different story and 'perhaps' you could go for a higher speed which is fair enough. Having said that I must say, I was super pleased with the above-mentioned speed that based on my personal experience.
@@CANADA-fq9fh I couldn't have said it better! I just ordered my Ebike "Stealth" and can't wait to whip some ass on the beach ride where these cyclists show off. It's going to be fun watching their eyes in shock...😂🤣
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Quite a lot of people seem to be complaining about the price of these e-bikes: they are not standard bikes at all, but more of a technology demonstrator. It is like buying a Bugatti Veyron - zero use in daily life as you won't be allowed to use even 1/3 of its potential anywhere on public roads without losing your driving licence, but some people who have crap load of money will still buy one. The technology used in these machines will then be applied in the production of mainstream bikes which means we will have better and more reliable e-bikes. In the near future all motorcycles will also be powered by batteries and these e-bikes are making sure combustion engines retire to the museums sooner than later.
Yes, you understand the situation perfectly. These are the Bugattis or Ferraris of the electric bicycle world. Like not everyone needs or can afford a Ferrari, let alone a Bugatti, not everyone will need to have such a powerful bicycle, especially when there are humbler options out there.
I just went and made my own. I took a Santa Cruz superlight and put I'm a 52.2 v battery to a BBSHD motor. I ride it highly illegally. It weighs maybe 50 lbs and i can race cars with it cost me $5000 or so to make. I have had it to 50 but the acceleration is insane.
I know I know..... Not highly. I just keep up with traffic mostly
It awesome that there are people, who could put their knowledge and skill to use. Too bad the majority either lacks the expertise or has enough time to take on such a project. Your setup sounds dope though, but still gotta be careful.
Good for you if you have the skill you can make a fast bike much cheaper yourself. Everything fun is illegal but only to the corrupt goverment because they can not suck money from peoples wallets.
I missed the name, but that #6 bike is my top pick. It goes pretty fast, and its affordable🙌
Love the look of these bikes but the prices are crazy
True. But these are the top of the line models, like Ferraris of ebikes, hence such high prices. What is your favorite Model?
I wish you would not ruin the flow of your videos with commercials every 2 minutes. I can not recommend watching this format.
I hope electrical bike improve to light weight, faster and longer range using graphene battery with functions such as cruise control.
What do you mean by cruise control?
lmgtfy.com/?q=cruise+control
Graphene batteries are indeed a very promising technology that seems to be at the doorstep. Though, i am sceptical about Goodenough's new battery. Sounds like an attempt to grab attention
www.skeletontech.com/industrial-cells
Unfortunately cruise control would make them electrically powered motorbikes in many countries. In the UK cruise control on a motorbike is frowned upon for safety reasons. IE a car will stall but if a bike goes over the wheel can keep spinning at whatever speed. With a normal throttle at least you are on tickover.
Did you know the legal speed limit for a car in most places is 75mph, do you think it's wise for car manufacturers to keep making them faster?
Private roads and race tracks spring to mind. And in Germany the limits are way higher than 75 mph or 70 in the UK.
@@vtechead1 also, speed is a side effect power to get you to the legal limit(s)
Yes go faster and faster! It's really unconstitutional to tell us how fast we can ride when I can pedal a 25:9 ratio over 20mph
I my understanding, these models were created by the pure lowers of high speed but not for the average person. By creating such products, the manufacturers try to show the level at which the current technology is. I highly doubt that there will be a lot of people, who'd enjoy riding a bicycle at over 70 mph. At the same time there are lots of people, who'd enjoy bicycles with slightly humbler performance, pedal assist feature and a longer range. I recently reviewed some of these in my video about the most affordable electric bikes, did you get a chance to check it out?
I think these models were created for men something this country lacks.
With the rise of electric motorcyes and electric bicycles the line is getting blurred. What makes the difference between the two? Pedals? Some of the electric bicycles don't even have any, weight just as much go just as fast and cost even more. So much power and speed in such small light frames for sure opens the doors to new technologies and improvements but it is also more dangerous. Use at your own risk. It will not be too long until that will get more regulated too sadly. But those vehicles that come in different shape, sizes and purposes can be very useful in many other applications as well. Being light weight and capable to be charged off of solar could solve many problems like city traffic, emergency back up transportation that can be stored in a bigger vehicle in case of failure (motorhome, bus, boat, trunk of a car, people with disabilities , etc) or just for fun. Regulate all that. Good luck. To have pedals with possible pedal assist can be good for exercise too and for older people as well. It could be motivation for the obese to get some exercise and have fun at the same time. Definitely more than seating in a car or on a motorcycle. Being electric would also help diminish pollution. Look at how successful the "bird" has become. To cover distances too long to go on foot but too short to use a car with the benefit of some exercise included it can be a life-saver. This electric vehicle revolution from cars to bicycles is in a way a blessing and if too many regulations are slapped on it that could discourage progress, it should be left alone to grow to its potential.
Some of these e bikes are more than fast enough for a person to lose the police in no time at all. The police will need to up grade their ability to keep up with the future technology that keeps improving very fast.
You are describing the least likely scenario this bikes will be used for.
These Ebikes are out of my price range. I'm gonna have to change that.
The faster the better. There's no limit on speed of unregulated vehicles like horses, bicycles, buggies, pedal cars, etc. Ebikes are no different. There's no registration or title for them and cannot be considered a commercial vehicle in any way. Keep on pedaling!
Not for me. I’m looking for something that’s more of a “sleeper”. It needs to look like a bicycle, but perform like a motorcycle. These mostly look like full blown electric motorcycles
infinitycrops I can make one for you but I don’t advise making a fast bike out of any old mountain bike I have a 1000w motor on my normal bike and I wouldn’t want it any faster you just need a good strong donor bike to go faster
awsome video! Thank you!
I think with the rise of LEPVs we’re going to see a push to up the legal speed for unregistered rides. I graphed the speed-gradient relationships for different powers of motor at an assumed mass and the simple truth is the legal limit of 250W is way too low for any sensible ride if you live in a hilly area. Many people use 1kW motors and just stick to the speed regs and are completely safe but it makes going up hills a lot easier.
Thanks for your comment and input. I do hope too, that the legal speed and allowed power will go up. Current regulationsare too outdated
If you leave in a hilly area just get a motorcycle, electric if you want.
As long as the power delivery stick to the speed limit.
The price of an electric bike should not be very high. Only then the electric bike will become a real city transport. And most importantly, in cities there should be an infrastructure that allows charging electric bicycles near the houses of schools of shops and offices.
Please note that these are the fastest bike models. There are currently bikes that have lower price tags.
Yuriy The loader. There is such an infrastructure for that. It's called buying a charger.
the cost of batteries is the biggest headache for e bikes. when battery tech advances, then you'll see more affordable options in the ebike scene
@@pauls5745 yeah no kidding, batteries are three times the amount for a kit to diy.
The answer is HELL YEAH KEEP MAKING HPCYCLES. HPC is #1
Those are really nice for sure.
This is a really cool scooter. Was something like this you would never have to do the work of a real cyclist it's so amazing
Zst Nn scooter 🤦♂️
I can go as fast as a car down hills so I don't see why the fast ones are illegal if you stick to the speed limit
Exactly
I think speed as an option is fine. Look at cars and speed limits. Same thing, eh?
True
The idea of bicycles going at 50+miles per hour may sound exciting but personally i find that a scary prospect. Also i could not justify the price. I would rather have an electric motorcycle.
These are very narrow nitche products. I would go for an electric motorcycle as well ;)
Talk about really really cool scooters! This totally eliminates the need for True cycling. You can just cruise around all day and not have to do any of the work of a real cyclist! It's great!
Since these bicycles have pedals, I don't think that they'd become a replacement for scooters. There are still many people out there, who enjoy cycling. These electric bikes let them enjoy riding with and without the electric motor assist.
What I think is a shame for the last two bikes to cost as much as they do, 12-thou, and 14-thou no way man not in this life.
It was the Bush administration here in the US that decided ebikes should be limited to one horsepower. 746w=1hp. (rounded to 750w.) The bush family made their fortune in big oil and It doesn't take a genius to see their ulterior motive. They don't want the ebike to replace millions of gasoline vehicles. They would lose a fortune!
They’re SO expensive. Too bad. There’s a few similar spec bikes I’ve found that are less than half of that though they are limited quantities.
Hi there! I do agree that the prices are high, so please share your findings with us! Thanks in advance!
Really like the 2WD HOC 👍
Make them fast but have options like a limiter for street use or manually input its street speed and that can be used on the fly.
90% of people can't ride a bike or don't know how to ride that good and 20 mph is what most can handle , without freaking out. So the rest of us that know how to ride have to be told how fast we can ride . Just like anything else ,they set rules for those that should not be on a bike in the first place, and it is all i heard on this video about how speed is unsafe , i wish people would understand if you don't want a fast bike then don't buy one that is fast ,but don't take away the right's for those that can ride , hell i can run 17 mph maybe no one should run , i raced motorcycles and own one for the street a HD 1390 cc that i have got it up to 145 mph but i did it in a place that i could do it safely , and if i want a ELECTRIC bike that goes 60 plus mph i should have that right, just obey the speed laws and know when and were to ride that fast ,NEXT TIME YOU MAKE A VIDEO MAKE IT FOR THOSE THAT KNOW HOW TO RIDE,GET IT ,and i have owned a electric bike now for 14 years, i have a video on here from years ago about fixing the back tire on a electric bike, i am going to buy another one that goes over 60 plus mph and i am looking at the electric motorcycle too,
Crazy 40 years ago when I was a kid. I never dreamed we would have bicycles that didn't need peddled. What's the next 40 going to hold?
Probably levitating bikes and skateboards ;)
those things used to be called 'mopeds' ... now they're called (super) e-bikes ...
I prefer the gyrep g12 but expensive though .other than that it cool
Cool choice, what about the rest of the lineup?
Sorry to expensive for me I will stick with Ancheer decent and cheap.
Fair enough. These are Supercars of electric bikes not everyone needs them
Everyone that says they don't understand the appeal of an electric bike 90% of you probably are close to Good public transportation or have a car. I lost my license a few years ago and can't drive. And I live in an area with terrible public transportation...so my electric bike is a God send. I rode a regular bike for years ... But if it's hot out and I had to go somewhere nice...I'd show up all sweaty and nasty ..not anymore. If I get home from work and I'm exhausted but need to go up to the store there's no car to hop in... But my ebike breezes me where I need to go. I'm also 54 with high cholesterol so I'm not looking to overdo it if Im running late and keel over in the middle of the road. So all u idiots that love to tell me when they see me on the train with my bike." Oh your cheating...I have a regular bike why do u need an electric bike?... Then you non chalantly walk into the parking lot to your comfortable cars...... shut your pie holes.
The faster the better.
Hey there! Just how fast would you want them to go? Any limits?
long range matters too
LOL! That's why your girlfriend visits me... because I disagree with you. Stamina (range) is way more important than speed kiddo. Better learn that quick or get an electric motorcycle... and a new girlfriend.
@@donschannel9310 Range is really the only thing that matters, even if you can ride at 30 mph fully loaded. - imgur.com/a/zXXlyuv
@@brianbassett4379 lol. You can get orgasm on the bike too.
It's always amazing to me that cars have no legal restrictions on speed, yet many governments limit the speed of ebikes, relatively safe, especially for people other than the rider. Why would we limit the safer option? Culture and habit, definitely not logic. Thank you for the review of these amazing bicycles!
Because police wouldn't be able to stop a bike effectively like a car, say someone created a pursuit with their ebike.
Kraken would be so much fun :)
Thank you for stopping by on my channel. True, Kraken, though looking rather simple and rough, should indeed be a fun ride, especially with that insane top speed. What would you choose, electric bicycle or gasoline motorcycle.?
Why do manufacturers claim such high mileage range for their ebikes, its not true.
They provide the range under neutral conditions. There are many factors that could either improve or worsen the range: temperature, riding style, etc.
All cars and motorcycles are made to run over 120 mph. But speeds that are allowed are less than half in most places, so why limit the speed of a bicycle that is no where near that. All they have to do is regulate the speed just like anywhere else.
its my assumption that big oil and auto would like to keep pedal/ebikes illegal above 20mph. The sooner the public realizes they can avoid traffic congestion and expensive fuels with an affordable powerful efficient mode of transport, the sooner these companies go into the red
Very nice bike list. Definitely check out the Escapade Rampage if you like faaast EBikes. Hits 65 mph in nooo time! Only $4k! Must check Escapade E-Bikes out 🤙🤙
Do you own this model?
Go fast or go home!!! The faster the better
They are already critically fast, as for bicycles. Do you support the legislation that is trying to slow them down though?
I Rather have The ERockit pedal assistance Electric bicycle and M55 Terminus Pedal Assistance Electric Bicycle 50mph and Up Mph+60+70+80+90+100+120+130+140+150+160+170+180+190+200+mph
totally disagree with that... yesterday followed one of them. he was doing 40 mph in a 30 limit. no helmet,no protection,no reg,no insurance. should not be on public road.
People like you is what is wrong with America, you seem to think you have the right to impose your values on others . You don’t have that right but you could choose to live those values in your own personal life. Freedom is not projecting your values on others, stay in california or China, just don’t come to my state.
@@scottcarlon6318 don't know what "state you own"..but you don't tell me where I going and what I doing. I have the right to go to "your state " and tell my opinion.The law is for protect people from reckless cyclists ( even local or foreigner)who could make a bad injury on you..watch your words because there's a law in your states and there's an international law as well... I'm thankful to China and Thailand where my martial arts from and you should be thankful to my country made America great
All electric bicycles should have a top speed of 40 miles per hour for safety reasons. Never less. I've ridden all types of bikes for over 40 years and the one thing I've noticed is that having the speed when needed is key to safety. Granted, there are speed demons 😈 of all sorts and types, but having that speed when it counts is crucial. I know how to ride safely. Accidents happen not because of speed but because of carelessness, stupidity and youth (let's be honest). So no 20 miles per hour limit for a bicycle is not favorable for anyone unless they design a road for bicycles only, or all vehicles to be limited to 20 miles per hour 🤔...
Yes they should continue to keep making them fast
Just how fast;) is there a limit?
Plenty of bike paths and parkland that are not government controlled not requiring registered transport so as long as Dirt Bikes have somewhere to ride the E-bikes will too. I recent picked up 9 Dewalt 12V 2.0Amphour batteries so I can presumably power something 12v for 18 hrs for 6v for 36hrs less resistance? I have a lot to learn about electrical motoring, see if there is an online calculator? Great bikes
This bike reminds me of my Harley hog...Sign on back of Jean Jacket reads, "If You Can Read This.........The Bitch Fell Off!"
Build them faster and put a street mode (governor) on them to make them legal
I thought that it would be the right way to go but it seems that laws are limiting them by output. if I understand everything correctly, bikes that have an output higher than allowed, cannot be used.
Something that weighs over 100 lb and can go 60mph isnt really a bicycle anymore is it? Its a really powerful moped. Interesting to see how blurred the line between motorcycle and bicycle is becoming.
The lines are blurred for sure. These electric bicycles are a bit overpowered and could outrun many mopeds but the question is are they as comfortable, safe and convenient?
yes and legalities are sure to follow...after all...who wants to share a sidewalk with an electric bike that can go 60 mph?....at this rate much of the appeal of electric bikes will be lost...think ...mandatory insurance.... motorcycle drivers licence rating...severe restrictions on where you can use it ...ect
I have an electric bike that is legal 750 watts and have been 47 down hill pedaling hard which makes you wonder what these are really capable of with pedaling down a hill
for non powered bikes ..it depends on gearing but....at some point it becomes impossible to turn the pedals any faster ...that is...there is just no getting your legs to go ANY faster...for me that turned out to be about 50-60 mph with a high pressure skinny tired racing bike with 21 speed gearing...something like 52 tooth front and 14 rear driving 26 inch wheels and maybe a 5% downgrade...given a motor...all bets are off
Tom shlump drive means you could pedal way in to the 70 to 80 mph or more I am a bicycle mechanic and own 10 a C e-bikes I think it's dangerous I have owned a Motorized bike that topped out at 74.1 mph but it was a race bike I can't imagine riding that way on the road Uber dangerous I live in Tennessee where gearing low might be more important than top speed I'll stick to my 30ish mph n flats
What's the names of the strongest e bikes cause i want to put a bike trailer on the e bike pulling about 130 lbs ?
If any bike companies should happen to read this, if you're transporting one person oh, and you are charging $9,000, it had better fly.
And I don't mean Sly as in go very fast, I mean that thing had better get off the ground.
Exactly. These prices are just ridiculous!
So expensive! Yikes!
Actually, some of them are reasonably priced.
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My friend. ...are you a millionaire? In my world $4700 for a bicycle. .electric or not. ...is not even remotely affordable, and that's the lowest priced one on this list. The highest priced one at $14500? I've bought cars for $2500 and less, and got more than 10 years of reliable usage out of them! The most I've ever paid for a motorcycle was $3800....and that was for a 2 year old 750cc Kawasaki!
You can easily purchase a new moped or scooter for $1500 , so I'm not seeing any value here. I'll have to say, they're cool looking, and pretty impressive. ...but outrageously priced. I'm not a rich guy.....but if I'm putting out that kind of cash for a vehicle , then I would have to be able to use it on a daily basis, regardless of weather. Can't do that with a bicycle or motorcycle bro, there's things called rain, snow, high winds....etc.
I'm not seeing the benefits versus the money spent!
Interesting video, good production, well done!
The thing is that getting a used or new gas motorcycle is not an alternative in this situation. Electric bicycles are zero emission, so they can be ridden in cities (especially those cities that are currently planning to ban any ICE vehicles). So in the nearest future the only option for such cities (or certain parts of the city) would be walking or getting an emission free vehicle.
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In America, there would be a civil revolution if ANY City or Municipality attempted to ban I.C.E. vehicles! Not to mention that the State government wouldn't allow that anyway, due to the massive loss of revenue for tags, title, and registrations!
This is why we have emissions testing that is done on a
bi-annual basis. If the vehicle tests "Dirty" ....you will have to repair it, and be retested, or your registration will be suspended. The comparison to an I.C.E. bike or car was a point of reference to the pricing, not the zero emissions factor.
But I understand your point!
Cheers!
The legislation won't be universal and I don't see laws that will apply to all cities in the near future. But I definitely see benefits for certain districts or neighborhood pushing some kinds of regulations (this would jack up the prices for real estate for sure because who wouldn't want to life in zero emission environment?)
" As light as a bicycle, weighing only 115lbs".........er right, yeah that's super light for a cycle.
May I ask what model you are referring to?
The first one, FR/1
Without batteries it would weight as much as a regular bike. You have to understand that the frame has to be more rigid to handle extra weight.
115lb is light if u compare the weight to horsepower ratio
for that price would rather get a motor cycle
A gas motorcycle?
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long run*
Oh yeah, it will. It may seem that ICE are more convenient and there are many gas stations at this time but we all noticed that gas prices started going up, again. So in the long run. there is no way that having something that runs on gas in the better option.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews and this ebikes are also amazing and badass not only u feel good with them but you can have some really adventurous times with it in hard terrains even bette with a friend and it also keeps you fit and strong so im all about ebikes>cars really good video man! I have my eyes on neematic that bike is some serious business!
Great selection, the Moar seems very interesting. Please update when available.
Hi there. Will be looking into the topic of new ebikes shortly and will revisit the Moar
Just get a Sondors for 10% of the price of these bikes with just as good of performance. Seriously, these bikes are MASSIVELY overpriced. Sondors is the only realistically priced e-bike on the market unless you build one yourself.
Sondors is indeed a great bike, but it definitely cant ride at 60 mph, can it? ;)
Check out our episode about the cheapest electric bicycles on sale today, Sondord was featured there, follow the link below:
ruclips.net/video/LW5jDuqhwm0/видео.html
With some modifications, it absolutely can. And it would still cost A LOT less than these bikes do. Thousands less.
Anything can be done, it will just take some time and skill (many people don't have either one or both of these components).
What's the name of the tasted electric bicycle in the top 5 that go so fast even without peddling and that I can easily fix a flat or take the wheel off to change the inner tube ?
These are an expensive way to get yourself pummeled. Most people will say nice. By the way i love my entry level ebike I've lost seven kegs in a couple a months.
kiLLRustoLeYum Did you drink all seven kegs?
@@vondahe hahahaha. Na mate I couldn't even drink seven cans these days, always been a two pot screamer. Wouldn't mind one of those fast bikes although they're a bit expensive.
I might be jinxing myself but I think that the Limit of 28 mph (The lawful limit in a lot of places in the USA) is very reasonable ... for me that is, and or a vehicle that doesn’t require a license
Quite fast indeed.
The question was, "Should ebike manufacturers make ebikes faster than most allowable speed limits?" A foolish question since there are areas off road, private properties and other areas where speed limits not imposed. After all, would anybody want a car or motorcycle with limited speed?
Super bicycle I seen here
Glad you liked them. What was your favorite model?
Theft is already such a problem for bicycles. Don’t think these expensive bikes are reasonable.
Thanks for stopping by. Your comment is very reasonable. Hopefully with the development of tech, we will be seeing more and more anti-theft devices that will keep out expensive bikes from being stolen. If you werent cautious abut your bike being stolen, which one from the lineup would you choose?
I would like an affordable jet power for bike. I ride 100 plus miles a week and don’t mind the exercise. Like the jet for fun.
I would prefer an electric assist that can be employed on long upgrades rather than full electric power. Regenerative braking would be nice to extend battery range.
I can recommend watching these episodes form my channel. they might interest you
Top 10 Electric Mountain Bicycles with Pedal Assist Technology (2018 Buying Guide)
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10 Cheapest Electric Bicycles You Can Afford (Review of Bikes Starting at $699)
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Some bikes have them. Plus you could buy a concealed tracker yourself. Hiwever, good quality ones are rather expensive
The most expensive ebike (does have a decent 40 plus miles of top speed) belongs to Blacktrail from Germany.
Will look into it. Thanks.
My front tire blew at 30. Let me tell you your going to face plant and no act on your part is going to stop you from face planting. So make sure your tires are top speed rated because it bites bad. When it pops the bars you won’t hold and it lays flat in .2 seconds. 😆
if the manufacturers are making products that are capable of such high speeds, would they dare to sell them without a proper set of tires?
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews No I probably should’ve clarified that I converted a $700 Cannondale Mountain bike. I upgraded the tire tubes only after it blew. It’s definitely not one of these expensive factory bikes I’m sure they have speed rated tires or at least I would hope so. Because it’s a real kick in the pants when you have a front tire blow lol I sold my KLE 650 street enduro for that reason I am never going to allow high-speed front blowout on a two wheeled vehicle ever again. It sucks bad doesn’t matter if your Arnold Schwarzenegger you’re not going to control that bike when that front tire blows. I’ve had 15 motorcycles I’ve never had it happen before but I’m not going to risk it. And when you go sideways onto the pavement you’re not going to keep your face off that pavement either with your hands. ( just painting the big picture ) I dam near broke my jaw. I think 15 mph is good. Good nuff for me anyway.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews I’m pretty sure these $5000 and up electric off-road bikes I have motorcycle tires I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anybody planting their face from the front blowout or if it’s even possible with a thicker tire?
I agree that a two-wheel vehicle is a rather risky business, you can fall at 5 mph and break your jaw. I tried not to scare off my viewers about these bikes being super dangerous, but I still mentioned that it is up to everyone to make sure they stay safe. Hope you never get to have your ride let you down in the future and that manufacturers of these bikes made sure that the tires are thick enough not to blow up at 60 mph promised top speed.
Automotive Territory: Trending News & Car Reviews Unless your an adult just peddling around Anything more ? Having a helmet is a dam good idea still won’t help your chin but at least you roll a avoid it. People just won’t know until they actually have it happen. I was riding 25 miles a day my trek road bike no helmet ever and did it twenty years. Motored my big semi off road bike and bam ! First Dam trip I put it up years ago never road it again even after stepping up my tubes to extra thick. Riders assume they can control them handle bars no way lol. It’s amazing how violent it gets in one second.
If you're going to spend over $5,000 on a bicycle, you might as well get a motorcycle
That is indeed an option, though electric motorcycles tend to cost more;)
@@automotiveterritory LOL, indeed. I was referring to gas-powered bikes. You're right about E-cycles, they are Extremely Expensive!
Faster better stuff what they say!
How fast would you say is too fast?
100 k for the money it should be made from gold ! What a rip thousands on a pissy slow bike BAD VALUE AND STANDARDS ITS RIPP ALL ! RATHER A REAL BIKE AT HALF THE PRICE !
The question that should be asked is, when do to many rules and regulation become more dangerous than personal judgment of one's abilities?
In 2014, autobahns carried 31% of motorized road traffic while accounting for 11% of Germany's traffic deaths. The autobahn fatality rate of 1.6 deaths per billion travel-kilometres compared favorably with the 4.6 rate on urban streets and 6.5 rate on rural roads.
Cheers!
Keep building fast but lighter bikes. Titanium would be a good option
The only reason for the restrictions on speed is the auto makers have a genuine fear of any motorized transportation powered with electricity. Both auto and motorcycle industries are pushing the limits to pack as much horsepower as they can into the frame but as soon as an electric bike travels over 25mph then there has to be limits.
This issue has to be addressed. Electric vehicles deserve more attention.
Randy Seelbach What? So you think that the auto industry is afraid that an e-bike is going to take the place of an automobile? Hey honey, load the kids on the bike, we're going shopping.
Blueknight, I have no idea where you live but here in Europe the e-bike stands a chance of replacing at least a forth of the cars used for commuting to work. I don't care what country you live in, if you stand at a stop light at eight o'clock in the morning and observe the cars you would notice that about 90 percent of the cars have only one person in that car. It is not filled with kids going shopping. There are already companies here in Germany that are leasing e-bikes for the employees to commute to work. So yes, I do think that the auto industry has a genuine fear of the number of cars that will be replaced by e-bikes.
Here in Europe the e-bike stands a chance of replacing at least a forth of the cars used for commuting to work. Really? What about during inclement weather like heavy rain,snow, very cold, freezing rain just to name a few? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against e-bikes, but they are more of a fair weather type of transportation.
pretty cool "elek-rick" bikes xD
Amazing electric bikes
Yes I think the electric bike faster the better. To go 10mph is very boring. As long you have experience with fast electric bikes it's fine. Is a great feeling no wing that you have power. It also can get you out of trouble on the roads. The only problem with fast electric bike prices. They are making far to much profit. It doesn't give a person who really likes electric bike a chance to buy. It's just the case of hoping you can come in to sum money to buy. The other option is buy a kit wch some are faster and half the price. Personally I would prefer a electric bike than a motor car. I hope electric bikes are the future. Plarese bring prises down. The cheaper the bike the more you sell hence more profit
Now in many countries, mine included, you will need a license and accident policy for any bycicle with 25Km/h+ using aid.
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just saying I can hit 30 mph on my 1 speed bmx bike. It takes a lot out of me tho. My max so far is 32 mph on a slight down hill.
Must be spending a lot of energy on pedaling. How long can you last for?
I've not timed it but less than 10 sec for sure. I can almost maintain 25 mph. I weigh 212lb so that is a lot of torque. The main reason I can go fast is that my front sprocket is 32T and my back is 9T. But all that aside it's not possible for me to compete with these Ebikes.
Stay in great shape and electric bikes will always be there for you in case you need to relax. I believe you do tricks on your BMX? No ebikes are ready for that yet, electric equipment is too fragile
These companies should make smaller fast bikes for people who are under 5ft like me. I`m 4ft 7 or 8 and affordable to buy.
Why do bicycle still have such uncomfortable seats
Thanks for the comment. I believe it is due to weight saving.
Check out our episode about electric fat bikes, some models have pretty comfortable seats: ruclips.net/video/sR6VaJLdEcM/видео.html
🇫🇮 finnish guy "bossManaatti" has e bike what goes over 130km/h
Appreciate the info. Will check it out
Perkele
I miss the "Red RSR" by swiss manufacturer Back2Green.
Power is up to 10kW, Topspeed over 60MPH and a Range of about 60 miles.
Thank you for stopping by on my channel. I truly appreciate the suggestion. Will look closer into this bike. How did you like the rest of the lineup? Did we miss any other cool models?
I don't know many manufacturers, but I'm thinking about buying an E-Bike and have seen the swiss manufacturer B2G, whoms "Red RSR" surely belongs in this list. If I buy an E-Bike, it will not be that radical, but more than 500W and more than 25kph is a must.
The "Blue XTR Speciale 3.1" by B2G (2800W / 65kph / 96Nm) would be nice, but te B2G bikes are not the cheapest... ;)
(Btw: If You like Fat-E-bikes, they've got one with insane 160Nm of torque!)
Once again thank you for your input! I will definitely look into your suggestions!
Woooh.... love all but prices range is out of my budget limit .. I guess 2025-2030 or something someone can make the same quality in half price tags...
More hp and much much more speed, but for a less price. 😎 👍
While it may be technically possible to pump even more power to these bicycles, I don't think that they would be safe. We are talking motorcycle speeds already. As for the price, yes they could be a bit more affordable.
Nothing is safe. You can get run over by a train while having your first day in office. Actually, that really happened.
Thank you for your comment. Hope the accident didnt happen to yourself, did it?
With non naked bikes does the chain rust if don't oil it, sorry for my lack of knowledge I'm 13 turning 14 so I'm mot old enough to get a license
Thank you for your comment and passion about bikes! Yes, the chain will eventually rust if it is not regularly cleaned, oiled properly, and if the bike is not stored under fairly dry conditions. There are plenty of electric bicycles that do not require a license, we will feature the most affordable models in the future episodes, stay tuned!
Nice bikes
Appreciate the feedback. Planning to buy any of these?
in not so fr away future, when ebikes will be on daily basis, then ebike stunt and ebike champions will appear. Now we need cheeepeeeer batteries:))
we are with you on this one. Cheaper batteries will simply crumble the ICE engines and become a lightyear leap into the future. Which is your favorite most advanced bike from the lineup?
Not cheaper batteries, we need a new technology for batteries, LiPo is pretty top notch now, but still shitty. Slow to charge, has danger of fire (but we can put that on the side) and "bad" energy density.
It´s realy top notch, respect, love, kisses and whatever, but still shitty.
Save, little fusion reactors would be the overkill. Run your vehicle 50 Years on one charge, think about that ;-)
Or transmitt electricity from the atmosphere to the ground, a lightning could power Las Vegas for at least a year.
Just some ideas...
Appreciate the comment. As much as I would love to have fusion powered cars, that concept would be to costly, easier and chaeper to make large reactors and distribute power. As for the lightning harvesting, I have to disagree with you here. Lightning bolts are much less powerful than you think and harvesting them will be economically ineffective. Check out this wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvesting_lightning_energy
I don’t think it should be any regulator’s business limiting anything. The item should be what the customer wants. There are laws in place everywhere, and it’s the regulator’s business to enforce the laws. Beyond that, they should stay out of the way or stop being hypocrites about not limiting every vehicles top end when destined for the public roadways.