Just How Much Faster Is An Un-Restricted E Bike Than A Road Bike?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 фев 2021
  • Electric bikes are becoming more and more popular worldwide, but are subject to strict laws and regulations to make them legal to ride in public. We already know how fun they are to ride, but just how fast can you ride an unrestricted e-bike? We took Hank and Conor to a private race track to compare it to the speed of a road bike.
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  • @gcn
    @gcn  3 года назад +200

    How fast do you think we can get the de-restricted motor to go?

    • @RoScFan
      @RoScFan 3 года назад +18

      Wait... you already did this with derestricted emtb and chris oppie. You ran out of ideas?

    • @ViveSemelBeneVivere
      @ViveSemelBeneVivere 3 года назад +14

      I watched already so I won't cheat the question. 😅
      No range anxiety over 2.9 km but what about a over a Century? 😉

    • @ViveSemelBeneVivere
      @ViveSemelBeneVivere 3 года назад +7

      @Click Bait Sure for unrestricted. Then for Bosch batteries in a normal restricted/legal state the max Eco range is ~140 km and max Turbo range is ~57 km. Even in Eco mode there will still be ~20 km of heavy biking to do.

    • @KenSmith-bv4si
      @KenSmith-bv4si 3 года назад

      Conor, just be thankful you weren't racing Ollie on an unrestricted E-bike.

    • @XennialGuy
      @XennialGuy 3 года назад +2

      I'm thinking somewhere around 60 kph.

  • @doriandouma
    @doriandouma 2 года назад +603

    Cars? Built to go faster than you're allowed to go even on the highway. Bikes? Restricted to the lowest speed limit you'll ever find.

    • @benbraceletspurple9108
      @benbraceletspurple9108 Год назад +20

      This irony and yet I get to work 5.5 miles away every day at about the same time, just 1 or 2 minutes slower than in a car.

    • @wylfo
      @wylfo Год назад +6

      Well, u can turn sharper and brake faster in a car

    • @benbraceletspurple9108
      @benbraceletspurple9108 Год назад +10

      @@wylfo nope. Bicycles max at over 1g turning and 1.4g breaking power, no mode of transportation is better accepting boats and submarines.

    • @wylfo
      @wylfo Год назад +4

      @@benbraceletspurple9108 I'm not sure what u're saying but from experience i can telly you that braking from 40 km/h on a bike and in a car is uncomparable.
      And like literally boats have to be the slowest braking means of communication there is

    • @benbraceletspurple9108
      @benbraceletspurple9108 Год назад +3

      @@wylfo boats record is close to airplanes, nearly 5 Gs from 40mph/43 knots they come down to 10 knots in 1/4 second.

  • @jontyarcheryedgar
    @jontyarcheryedgar 3 года назад +1745

    Yes, but we really need is is an E bike faster than Si on a TT bike

    • @jamesliew738
      @jamesliew738 3 года назад +5

      Yes

    • @monkeysrightpaw
      @monkeysrightpaw 3 года назад +111

      Finally a bike Ollie can use to keep up.

    • @marcusturner5632
      @marcusturner5632 3 года назад

      Absolutely!

    • @apm9507
      @apm9507 3 года назад +44

      If you slow down the video to frame by frame, you can just barely glimpse Si's TT bike hit 88 mph as the flux capacitor clicks on after he passes Hank.

    • @garlandorienter
      @garlandorienter 3 года назад +2

      Yess.. ebike vs the tt bike

  • @sealkeen
    @sealkeen 2 года назад +237

    1:08 When it comes the UK and the UE market, it's restricted to 25 km/h, in the US it's restricted to 20 mph.
    And then, if you come to Russia, it's restricted to 60 km/h in cities (as a vehicle) because we don't have any restrictions for cyclists.

    • @Hyleys
      @Hyleys 2 года назад +17

      Ехать быстрее 50 в городе, в наших городах, где ливневки по краям и спонтанные ямы и трещины? Это самоубийство! Реально 42-44 максимум чтоб не терять контроль.

    • @lenkradborke7226
      @lenkradborke7226 2 года назад +12

      @@Hyleys Vodka Putin

    • @lichtloper
      @lichtloper 2 года назад +1

      Russian logic:
      no rules = no fines
      I never had many doubts about the elementary stupidity of Russian logic.

    • @makewithme3934
      @makewithme3934 2 года назад +6

      In India no restrictions you can go at any speed

    • @ArthurD
      @ArthurD 2 года назад +5

      @@lichtloper you just HAD TO say something shitty the moment you saw the word "Russia", are you?

  • @amyhuggins977
    @amyhuggins977 3 года назад +504

    GCN: Hank seems to crash a lot.
    Also GCN: Lets make him go faster

    • @stat1cghost
      @stat1cghost 3 года назад +16

      So, he's the Richard Hammond of Cycling?

    • @savagegtalks5912
      @savagegtalks5912 Год назад

      @@stat1cghost you saying he's gonna grow shorter?

  • @ElonMuckX
    @ElonMuckX 3 года назад +757

    Next Episode: Ollie gets dropped riding an unrestricted ebike.

    • @apm9507
      @apm9507 3 года назад +34

      By Mamon on a unicycle with a flat.

    • @BRNOOB_
      @BRNOOB_ 3 года назад +1

      Lol

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit 3 года назад

      By Herbert the pervert on methamphetamine

    • @pgesqsj1
      @pgesqsj1 3 года назад

      Cruel but true 🤣

  • @CoreyKearney
    @CoreyKearney 2 года назад +307

    "Derestricting an e-bike is hard, you shouldn't do it." That was clearly the BBC talking, it's not hard. manufacturers make it really easy and then just don't document it. This is because of draconian laws designed for mopeds, and to insulate motorists.

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 2 года назад +44

      It's a meme law and TOTALLY UNENFORCEABLE. If I were ever stopped on my Fiido M1 PRO. For going faster than 15.5mph. In Croydon. I would say okay. Now go and stop every delivery rider using an ebike. They wont and they cant.
      I've talked to delivery riders. With souped up bikes using 1000w or more powerful motors. And 52v batteries. And flying around at 25mph PLUS.
      It's not worth the paper it's written on. It either stands for ALL or its doesnt stand for anyone

    • @darkoquist8448
      @darkoquist8448 2 года назад +29

      Its harder to softboil an egg than removing the restrictions on an e-bike

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 2 года назад +3

      actually manufacturers hate you doing this bosch in particular decided to brown nose and hold a sumit between bike manufacturers urging them to make there stuff less able to be modified the issue is its not gonna work so give up
      bosch make electronics with motors in leaf blowers drills and other items they dont make software for a living
      and if sony ms nintendo apple and google cant even stop determined reverse engineers hacking there shit what hope does bosch have?
      people want this and honestly we should just let them have it
      its more dangerous!!!
      than what? oh dear someone might fall off and die ok but when did we ever care about that when we allowed motorcyclists to squat on 2400cc of engine and throw there asses down the road at over 100mph?
      what about pedestrians!!!
      what about them a ebike is the least of there worrys if there in the road
      there not taxed!!!
      grow up and stop being salty that your gas guzzling car has to pay tax for the tarmac you shred up each year alot of ecars are tax free too and ebikes do way less harm to the roads and enviroment than a ev does
      they dont have a license!!!
      most people ive spoken to would have no issue obtaining the cbt to ride theese
      they dont have insurance
      yeah but youd be upset when you found out how little that hurdle would cost us
      but kids....
      yeah no theres already age restrictions on theese so stop pretending like kids will be ripping around causing havoc on theese cause its already illigal for them to use them
      meanwhile goverment wants us all to be greener get evs and shit well here we are with a solution many are ready to adopt
      unlie electric cars theese are accisible and workable for the parts of society that cant have EVS for example those who live in flats who cant charge there cars in the car parkk those who cant afford a brand new car and those who dont want a car
      there cheaper transport
      greener transport (despite power coming from coal just like EV's unlie evs there lighter and use less power to get the rider around than a EV which carrys you plus several tonnes of your car meanwhile my little motor just has to move me and my sub 15kg bike frame .... and maybe a pizza!

    • @irishsamurai9008
      @irishsamurai9008 2 года назад +2

      @@darkoquist8448 like how because softboiling an egg is easy af egg+water+6min boil=soft boiled egg

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 2 года назад +5

      @@irishsamurai9008 that was the point, de restricting an E-bike can be trivially easy.

  • @endcensorship874
    @endcensorship874 3 года назад +1698

    Today on GCN: are motorcycles faster than bicycles?

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop 3 года назад +50

      Well, you still have to pedal, as it is more of a moped than motorcycle, namely pedelec.

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +71

      It's neither a motorbike or a moped, it's an E Bike.
      You have to put effort in, and the motor adds extra on top. Didn't you see how out of breath he was?

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +70

      @Treez 93
      I see people on normal bikes not peddling all the time, so?

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop 3 года назад +65

      @Treez 93 stop thinking like Aristotle and accept Galileo's laws of inertia already

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 3 года назад +20

      @Treez 93
      They weren't on E bikes then, and I completely agree with you.
      If you stop peddling on a E bike, the bike stops.

  • @mateopetre5316
    @mateopetre5316 3 года назад +209

    This Channel Is becoming the top Gear of cycling

    • @marty197666
      @marty197666 3 года назад +17

      It was more so in the days when it was just Matt, Si and Dan. Really had a best mates doing what they love vibe

    • @wiryx1
      @wiryx1 3 года назад +15

      coming up: our guest doing a lap on a reasonably priced bike!

    • @thelonesculler
      @thelonesculler 3 года назад +8

      Tonight on GCN: Hank announces the aftermath of his curry, Conor wears some sunglasses, and Manon shouts at two men

    • @izi941
      @izi941 3 года назад +6

      @@marty197666 yes, and the reviews were unbiased, no product pushing,...if it was shit, they said so. Like top gear. Nowdays it’s just another platform for the brands to push their product...GCN sold out to the market. And all the fun-quality and tech-knowledge went away with Matt, the “Brick”, Emma, Cunnings, and now the Powers too. Seems like they don’t like the model GCN is taking?

    • @themanonthemoon111
      @themanonthemoon111 3 года назад +2

      @@izi941 I think Matt leaving was just natural progression, considering he works for Eurosport who are owned by the same company that owns GCN I think

  • @johnmccrossan9647
    @johnmccrossan9647 3 года назад +253

    Think we’ve found our match for Si on the Orbea Ordu TT bike

    • @elorz007
      @elorz007 3 года назад +4

      Did you know that "Ordu" means "Hour" in basque language?

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo1823 3 года назад +148

    That was unfair. You clearly de-restricted Hank as well!

    • @fredmcdaniels2912
      @fredmcdaniels2912 6 месяцев назад

      Peace,steal want a trek or cervelo to see what a racing bike is like ,no e peace.

  • @rubaiyatu
    @rubaiyatu 3 года назад +312

    Now, the flip-side of the e-bike coin: how much SLOWER is an e-bike with the battery depleted? Extra weight and potential motor drag....

    • @JohnFekoloid
      @JohnFekoloid 3 года назад +28

      Tour De France without any recharging allowed. 😁

    • @umtomtom
      @umtomtom 3 года назад +3

      haha greabo

    • @somedude2492
      @somedude2492 3 года назад +6

      You should take care not to empty the battery though

    • @4nz-nl
      @4nz-nl 3 года назад +19

      @@somedude2492 Most e-bikes have a battery management system. Emptying it won't kill it, because the BMS will cut off before it gets dangerous. What is important is to recharge within let's say a week after that - batteries discharge without being used too.

    • @izi941
      @izi941 3 года назад +12

      Yeah, they should do a 100km and 200km test next..but the sponsors (canyon) wouldn’t be happy with the bike they’re pushing loosing the race, or calling it no-good...that’s called biased review.

  • @EricLoic
    @EricLoic 3 года назад +38

    It was very interesting to see how much faster an e-bike is compared to a regular bike. I'm totally for e-bikes. It expends the pool of people who can ride with me. I'm a strong cyclist and my wife, my kids and a lot of my friends can't keep up with me unless they use an e-bike. It's a win-win. I get to ride with my favorite people and can still get a decent workout. E-bikes are amazing. Thanks to GCN for including the e-bikes in your show.

    • @amandajane8227
      @amandajane8227 3 года назад +5

      But your wife and kids won't have the same abilities on a bike and by making them go as fast as you you will be making them vulnerable to a nasty injury.

    • @EricLoic
      @EricLoic 3 года назад +5

      @@amandajane8227 abilities and fitness are two very different things. Cars are more a risk for people's safety than an e-bikes are. Also, most hills around here will bring any bike at a much higher speed than any e-bike can. You, like many other people, say negative things about e-bikes and I really don't understand why. Can you tell me about how e-bikes make you feel so maybe I can understand where your comment is coming from?

    • @amandajane8227
      @amandajane8227 3 года назад +6

      @@EricLoic I ride with e-bike riders often. On one recent ride one of them took a corner too fast and come off breaking a rib. On another ride the Tail end charley was on an e-bike. He was happy to go slowly. But one of the other e-bikers came back to him for a chat. They got into a deep and meaningful chat and before they were aware were speeding off into the distance. I had to struggle to speed up and catch them and was breathless at 25kph.They were so deep in their conversation they were unaware of the cycling. Yesterday I came across a snake on the path when I was 2 meters from it. I could deviate around easily but if I was on an e-bike going faster the snake would have been in my spokes. I have nothing against e-bikes and expect to own one when I reach 60 but I do think people get them and don't understand they are a completely different beast to a non motorised bike.

    • @EricLoic
      @EricLoic 3 года назад +5

      @@amandajane8227 you were describing regular biking issues and behaviour. Nothing specific to e-bikes. Cheers.

    • @gromm93
      @gromm93 10 месяцев назад

      I'm curious how this match would play out over 50 or 100 km.
      When would the ebike run out of juice and then become a huge liability that nobody can overcome?

  • @kidShibuya
    @kidShibuya 3 года назад +502

    Imagine an e-recumbent. The kind of engine and batteries that could fit... Wait I am reinventing the car ;(

    • @Danish_raven
      @Danish_raven 3 года назад +8

      yes

    • @apm9507
      @apm9507 3 года назад +14

      They do have a motor available for some velomobiles. My Rotovello doesn't have a motor because I am in desperate need to burn calories every minute I can.

    • @ianj3845
      @ianj3845 3 года назад +13

      Not sure about the car but it sounds a lot like the Sinclair C5.

    • @danatool
      @danatool 3 года назад +3

      Podbike

    • @JohnR31415
      @JohnR31415 3 года назад +7

      I have a motor on the back of my ‘bent - raising the minimum speed makes a huge difference on a commute. Used to average easily more than the 15mph “maximum”...

  • @digitaldion
    @digitaldion 3 года назад +208

    I do a 50km (round trip) commute in Cape Town (Somerset West to Stellenbosch and back). The hills are steep, and the wind can be quite strong. My Giant Quick E (45km/h or 28 MPH) makes the trip fun and easy, with as much or a workout as I want on the way home (I just turn down the pedal assist and enjoy the workout). But on the way to work it is smooth, fast, and easy.

    • @1997giannis
      @1997giannis 2 года назад

      is it unrestricted?

    • @digitaldion
      @digitaldion 2 года назад +11

      @@1997giannis in South Africa electric bicycles can go up to 45km/h (or 28 mph).

    • @omniyambot9876
      @omniyambot9876 2 года назад

      how much different is the additional weight of battery?

    • @scottkorn1206
      @scottkorn1206 2 года назад +3

      Same bike in NC mountains, love it, go anywhere, climb anything fast. Best part, I’m a stronger rider on my regular road bike.

    • @tayolenson2268
      @tayolenson2268 2 года назад +2

      Thats crazy, Im also from cape town and went from cape town to stellenbosch and back just today.

  • @siquq
    @siquq 3 года назад +8

    I am SO glad somebody did this test. Well done GCN.

  • @Dembalak2
    @Dembalak2 3 года назад +63

    Next challenge: Hank’s dad on illegal ebike vs Si on TT bike.

  • @vaibhavsawant6640
    @vaibhavsawant6640 3 года назад +436

    Amature E-Bike vs Hank Road Bike, is what we actually want

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps 3 года назад +33

      About time to reintroduce Hank's dad!

    • @agunlogisteam
      @agunlogisteam 3 года назад +16

      @@panzerveps it'll become hank dad BMW R1200GS vs hank with e bike in no time 😂😂😂

    • @unairamos74
      @unairamos74 3 года назад +8

      Is it a-mature, or amateur??? :D

    • @apm9507
      @apm9507 3 года назад +8

      @@unairamos74 Hank's dad is a mature amateur.

    • @afiqaFaT
      @afiqaFaT 3 года назад

      Yes!

  • @MrDazP1adv3ntures
    @MrDazP1adv3ntures 3 года назад +51

    I thought this was a fantastic demonstration Hank and Conor. It's getting more and more like Top Gear for cyclists. Chapeau to GCN and your creativity.

  • @M0Moftw
    @M0Moftw 3 года назад +23

    in Switzerland it's allowed to have a 45km/h s-pedelec, I personally own one called Stromer ST3 and it's very good to commute more than 20kms.

    • @gudrune
      @gudrune 3 года назад +7

      That explains why I got smoked by commuters wearing suits when I was there last...

    • @thetelephoneprankster4254
      @thetelephoneprankster4254 2 года назад

      Should I buy a Stromer instead of QWIC?

    • @4nz-nl
      @4nz-nl 2 года назад

      Actually those are EU regulations. You should be able to ride it all over the EU.

  • @bartwarburg55
    @bartwarburg55 3 года назад +8

    A few weeks ago, I cycled from Cape Town to Hout Bay. I am a pretty good climber and had a good time until I was overtaken by a beautiful blonde girl. She kept cycling next to me for a moment and said, "Hi", after which she took off like a rocket, up mountain, mind you. As if I were standing still, my manhood shrank to the size of a pea. At the top she was waiting for me to arrive. When I asked her if she drank kerosene at breakfast, she said with a laugh: "No dude ......., I have an electric racing bike.". I could hug her. Satisfied and confident, I descended.

  • @vinhphan946
    @vinhphan946 3 года назад +136

    Let's be honest, we all want to know what happened in the car park

  • @natillano
    @natillano 3 года назад +18

    Hank with the dramatics 👏👏 we need to see what happened at the carpark

  • @TomTomLo1
    @TomTomLo1 3 года назад +68

    Next race: 24 hours - Hank on an ebike with 2 batteries and a fast charger vs Mark Beaumont on a normal road bike...

    • @renegadetenor
      @renegadetenor 3 года назад +2

      Good one, I like it!

    • @izi941
      @izi941 3 года назад +4

      Yes 😅
      But will probably only be available on GCN ultimate-premium-limited-plus-season pack-DLC

    • @Noadvantage246
      @Noadvantage246 3 года назад +3

      Bro it's not even going to be close, not only are e-bikes much faster but people can go a lot further before getting tired. Hank could literally lap him and finish the full race twice before he does. Also a fact most wouldn't know w/o having one the battery dying hardly matters. The e-bikes are still high-end bikes with good gearing and would still be much faster than the average bike on no battery. So worst case Hank's battery dies and it's slightly worse than Mark's bike but while he has the batteries it's like 3x better.

  • @JuCarlos-ex8ip
    @JuCarlos-ex8ip Год назад +1

    Your videos guys are the best I love the various comparisons u guys made

  • @NamSham
    @NamSham 3 года назад +98

    Last time I was this early, Ollie hadn't been dropped from the pack

  • @Simon-le2jk
    @Simon-le2jk 3 года назад +18

    I once had access to some unrestricted E-Bikes, so I tested up a climb (2.7 km, 251 m with peaks of 17%). I did the climb in 4 min 53 s, averaging 33 kmh for a VAM of over 3000 m/h. It was just insane. No match for human legs.

    • @Systematicsphere
      @Systematicsphere Год назад

      Seems like it was more than a match for human legs.

    • @klopcodez
      @klopcodez Год назад

      Or maybe you don’t have much Watts in your legs it’s doable

    • @klopcodez
      @klopcodez Год назад +1

      @troy phillips Right they do it all the time infact they do it with a much lesser time..just imagine what they would do with an ebike

  • @mesere7
    @mesere7 3 года назад +8

    Can we get a best of Hank's crashes compilation with slow motion and reverse edits? It would be cracking!

  • @lula_leftist
    @lula_leftist 3 года назад +12

    Thanks for great content. In South Africa we allowed 45km/h "speed pedelec" as per Canadian regulations I'm told. My brother and I have such ebikes and your results ringed true 🤩

    • @DMCLN
      @DMCLN 3 года назад +3

      Where I live on the Canadian east coast there are 500W and 32 kph restrictions😞 . I'd very much love to go faster at times but I'm also grateful that we're not limited to 25 kph, which is simple cruelty! Those affected have my sympathies!

    • @DanielSong39
      @DanielSong39 Год назад

      @@DMCLN OK 32 is not that bad. I think most people are complaining about the 25kph

    • @Garage_Distinct_Clips
      @Garage_Distinct_Clips 11 месяцев назад

      @@DMCLNme In Canada where I live we can go 50-60 as long as we’re driving safely

  • @sullysullster8217
    @sullysullster8217 3 года назад +7

    I like what Hank brings to the table. He's funny without really trying. Everyone seems to have carved a nice niche there. I just got my racepass up and running on chromecast in the U.S. Ive been a cyclist for a long time and I can finally watch Live European races in their entirety. I always hoped for a full fledged cycling channel and it's finally here. Great stuff.

  • @thomasmichaelheller4178
    @thomasmichaelheller4178 3 года назад +4

    You need to bring the Grail:On off roads, that’s really fun. I own an Canyon Inflite and the Grail:On, it’s different but I love it in both ways on the bikes.

  • @manji001
    @manji001 3 года назад +14

    sounds like a challenge for Si, and the TT bike ;)

  • @LednacekZ
    @LednacekZ 3 года назад +276

    wow, who knew a motorcycle is faster than a bike.

    • @oggypip9889
      @oggypip9889 3 года назад +19

      next up: Tesla vs Bobby-car!

    • @hosambanawan4604
      @hosambanawan4604 3 года назад +20

      You still have to pedal this 55 lb bike and to keep it at 35 to 40 miles per hour it takes alot of you and it's all about a workout ..I have a detristriced giant that I enjoy more than my p3 cervelo and my road litespeed that's a fact

    • @danfamily
      @danfamily 3 года назад +14

      @@hosambanawan4604 probably you have never ridden an e-bike before. It's very easy to accelerate and maintain speed in an e-bike.

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps 3 года назад +17

      @@hosambanawan4604 You probably enjoy it more, because you don't have to pedal as hard.
      And of course the motorbike is faster, when it has a motor in addition to the leg power.
      I kind of want an e-bike for commuting, but I'd never go for a Sunday ride on one.

    • @srjnrwyn
      @srjnrwyn 3 года назад

      Mas bien seria un ciclomotor 🤣

  • @nh3936
    @nh3936 3 года назад +8

    That bike looks massive for Hank!

  • @footscorn
    @footscorn 2 года назад +2

    Here in Australia you can purchase ebikes not only on the net but also from reputable shops that'll do up to 65 kph no problem as long as they state only to be used on private property. Motors up around 1500watts. I have one myself.

  • @karlInSanDiego
    @karlInSanDiego 3 года назад +103

    This is a good demonstration that unrestricted (or at least higher speeds) than some places allow, could create a much more compelling argument for car replacement. It starts to get more dangerous, requires a lot more attention, braking, and experience to do safely, but since we must replace cars because of Climate Crisis, I think it should be a serious consideration.

    • @petermcbilt594
      @petermcbilt594 2 года назад +23

      Climate Crisis, really. Sounds like somebody’s been drinking the Kool-Aid

    • @karlInSanDiego
      @karlInSanDiego 2 года назад +9

      @@petermcbilt594 with a firehose

    • @JoelJosephson
      @JoelJosephson 2 года назад +7

      The restrictions are about insurance, vehicle licencing and taxes. The question is when is it a moped and when is it a bike. I'm happy as it is.

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit 2 года назад

      Andy Kirby actually MSVA'd one of his creations and got it plated (of course there's no tax as it's electric and a small insurance fee)

    • @James-vj5hz
      @James-vj5hz 2 года назад +5

      Climate crisis? Perhaps. Dirty air? Definitely.
      Probably better to focus on the latter, especially because it's less controversial (and solving for it would also solve the former).

  • @alanp8040
    @alanp8040 3 года назад +4

    Ollie on E-Bike vs any of you ex-pro’s would be a great watch. Imagine how pleased he’d be to be the one dropping you guys!!

  • @davidashton3396
    @davidashton3396 3 года назад +17

    Hilarious! And such enthusiasm from the power assisted winner...

  • @_monstermiles1629
    @_monstermiles1629 3 года назад +1

    This was indeed an incredible test , thank you for an entertaining yet educational video ! i did have one question, what type of mics are you guys using? the amount of speed & no wind sound is ridiculous ! aha awesome video!

  • @nerdexproject
    @nerdexproject 3 года назад +2

    Boy that was so fun to watch! :D

  • @koekiesbakker
    @koekiesbakker 3 года назад +9

    Well I guess you could say that bike is quite the.... torque of the town.

  • @akceller8
    @akceller8 3 года назад +5

    Would be nice to see the comparison between the restricted and the derestriced ebike

  • @MrCamcross
    @MrCamcross 3 года назад +2

    For anyone who wants to derestrict their bike, the easiest way is to move the wheel sensor so that it is close to the pedals, and put a magnet on the pedals. If they are closely enough aligned, the magnet will trigger the speed sensor, and it will be effectly unlimited. This works on my Bosch based Cannondale neo 2020.

  • @SuperMonkeyboy1977
    @SuperMonkeyboy1977 3 года назад

    I have been waiting for this video since Si did the "Are E-Bikes Fun?" video. I have a speed pedalec and they are quite fun to zip around. Look how amped up Hank is! I've done all the things e-bikes were meant for. Riding hills, carrying kids, hauling groceries. GCN should do a downhill E-bike race... heavy E-Bike vs Aero road :)

  • @danielmoorhouse6506
    @danielmoorhouse6506 3 года назад +12

    Would have been good to see the effort needed to ride alongside Connor while he's flat out.

  • @itarry4
    @itarry4 3 года назад +4

    Er. Fun. That's I guess it. Nothing learnt, no surprise but entertaining watching Hank get the easy job for a change.

  • @markbrown8023
    @markbrown8023 3 года назад

    I would love to get my hand on a bike like that being my dream bicycle the practicality of a road bike and the amazing engenuity of a electric bicycle unrestrained. loved this video give it 2 thumbs up

  • @charliemiller444
    @charliemiller444 3 года назад +2

    Hank " The horses are in the stable " Brilliant :)

  • @Meldonator
    @Meldonator 3 года назад +5

    would have been interesting on the Ventoux or the Alpes du Huez :D

  • @indobleh
    @indobleh 3 года назад +19

    Unrestricted is the way to go, thanks guys for showing us the true potential !

  • @fruitytooty3834
    @fruitytooty3834 3 года назад

    I live in castle combe and it's awesome to see you guys using the track!

  • @clintnieves
    @clintnieves 3 года назад

    Love these three crazy presenters, Hank, Manon, and Conor

  • @JanPC75
    @JanPC75 3 года назад +7

    I would like to see you do the same ones again, but with the restriction at 25 km.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 3 года назад +1

      Now way in winning it with that dumb restriction.
      As soon as I invest in an emtb the first thing that I do as soon as the warranty is over is getting rid of that dumb restriction to snail speed.

  • @DavidMulligan
    @DavidMulligan 3 года назад +22

    What about an endurance race? Would a battery outlast a human?

    • @dangerfulmind
      @dangerfulmind 3 года назад +5

      Not a chance. Depends on the human of course!

    • @supernoodles908
      @supernoodles908 3 года назад +2

      @@dangerfulmind if you had it giving say 50-70 watts I think it'd do pretty well. Plus if there was a stop where you could pop in a fresh battery

    • @MisterPlopPlop
      @MisterPlopPlop 3 года назад +5

      This one would be interesting! Do an endurance race 200km with both bikes.

    • @dangerfulmind
      @dangerfulmind 3 года назад +2

      @@supernoodles908 I think that if more than one battery would be allowed, the rider has to carry the spare battery.

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps 3 года назад

      @@supernoodles908 Great idea. Maybe while we're at it, restrict the amount of food the normal bike rider could eat, to increase the handicap.

  • @flynn.matthews8238
    @flynn.matthews8238 10 месяцев назад

    If your thinking abt getting a SpeedBox get one! I got one for my trek rail e and I can do 45 mph cruising. It’s so much fun and the laughs when I over take people in cars is amazing!

  • @itzzoggy3095
    @itzzoggy3095 3 года назад

    you guys are the only guys on the internet that are qualified to know bikes. these dudes know what a bike is and how a bike works, my son is a bike lover! he loves your shows and I force him to watch your beutiful faces.,

  • @djarvils
    @djarvils 3 года назад +25

    I'm bike messenger. Love my race bike! How many hours you can go with that ebike? I'm seeing guys with ebikes - 4hours max in hilly Wiesbaden.
    Why dont you compare these bikes in a 100miles route?
    Looks like ebike commercial....

    • @tecmalo6857
      @tecmalo6857 3 года назад +6

      I don't think, that a 100 mile course is reasonable for a test. Sure, it probably won't make a hundred miles, but that isn't the use case. ebikes are either for the commuter who don't wants to go to work by car, or more elderly people, who just want wo be kind of self sustained and mobile. E race bikes are, in a way, the same. My Gf has an e road bike, cause iam much fitter, but still we can go for some bike tours and she doesn't need to "fight" every hill, just to keep up with me, or I don't need to get slower. It is awesome. The shown use case in this video, or yours as a bike messenger, isnt really a normal use case :D
      Greetings from the flats of north Germany 😂

    • @blackeesh463
      @blackeesh463 3 года назад +8

      It's literally an illegal e-bike mate

    • @GuitaristOfEvil
      @GuitaristOfEvil 3 года назад

      @@blackeesh463 .. on a race track :D

    • @Friek555
      @Friek555 3 года назад +1

      If the guys with ebikes get a second battery, that's their problem solved

    • @idiachuk
      @idiachuk 3 года назад +1

      of course this is a commercial, it is a commercial channel, buddy) nevertheless they do fun stuff, don't they?

  • @lorez99
    @lorez99 3 года назад +7

    Thanks for this video lads! I have been wondering what the upper limits might be. I am currently riding a Specialized Creo Turbo SL Expert EVO and it is speed limited to 28mph here in the US but I'm seeing average speeds on Strava segments up around 25mph over 5 minute segments which puts me at or near the top of many segments for my local rides. Of course I never let those records stand but it's nice to see what's possible!

  • @jooptablet1727
    @jooptablet1727 2 года назад

    These are GMBN level shenanigans, love it!

  • @athomenotavailable
    @athomenotavailable 2 года назад +4

    Super impressed with the 48km/h on the road bike without a downslope or tailwind from a vehicle

    • @gcn
      @gcn  2 года назад

      We agree! Connor has still got it!

  • @mattherndon9317
    @mattherndon9317 2 года назад +6

    Love it! You gotta do a super long range test that’s far longer than the eBike’s battery can last. Then maybe the regular bike could catch up to the heavier eBike after it runs out of power.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 2 года назад

      Plot Twist : if you're doing super-distances do what MTB long-day pros do and carry a spare battery.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 2 года назад +2

      To be fair once an E-bike is out of power (especially in a low power pedal assist mode) the other riders might be pretty marginal on power too.
      But yeah, as an E-Bike rider it's amazing how "heavy" they get when that battery finally conks out, I've done a couple rides where I deplete the battery and still had a kilometer or 2 of modestly steep mountain cutoff to climb to get back home, no regrets though, it was a fun ride and good exercise

    • @goku445
      @goku445 2 года назад

      @@UNSCPILOT Interesting. Do you think the motor resists to your effort if it's not used?

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 2 года назад

      @@goku445 in the case of my own bike, yes, when the motor is off or runs out of power it becomes noticeable more difficult to pedal than a normal bike, something I've had to deal with a few times when I took too-long of a bikeride and ran the battery down before getting home.
      It's still possible to pedal obviously but it's like you constantly fighting to go up hill, in addition to whatever terrain your biking threw... which can be grueling on a multi-kilometer accent up a mountain cutoff, I've certainly wished I had a backup battery in those cases

  • @jorismak
    @jorismak 3 года назад +19

    Reminds me when they did an E-MTB vs Chris Opie and the E-MTB got smashed :P.

  • @whatsname2649
    @whatsname2649 2 года назад +1

    It's obvious that the torque factor was the clincher. He seemed to close the gap a bit, but the jump start sealed his fate. Incredible machine.

  • @ChurroWaffles
    @ChurroWaffles 2 года назад

    That bit when Hank was sprinting as hard as he could reminded me of Yowamushi Pedal lol.

  • @jaivora423
    @jaivora423 3 года назад +12

    So now race the E-bike vs. Recumbent

    • @vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535
      @vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 3 года назад +3

      But Si already beat the recumbent. Hahaha. I think Si should go against the un-restricted e-bike.

    • @matejlieskovsky9625
      @matejlieskovsky9625 3 года назад

      @@vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 Yes. And if Si loses to the e-bike, then put him in the Milan against the e-bike. Or just add laps until the battery dies :-D

    • @4nz-nl
      @4nz-nl 3 года назад

      @@vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 Si beat Manon in the recumbent. Different story ;-) Although it is funny. I really have the impression that since those GCN episodes came out, I see more road and TT bike riders trying to chase me in the Milan :-) If any of you are reading this: Thanks for the fun! ;-)

  • @The1trueDave
    @The1trueDave 3 года назад +3

    I'd be interested to see this over the 4v1 TT course as well, because you can't just tank along at 55-60kph over bad surfaces and round tight corners. Some circumspection would have to come into play or he'd end up in the hedge!
    Of course, it's not road legal so it'll never happen...

  • @EVil-ob8in
    @EVil-ob8in Год назад

    Are e-bikes sold in the UK still restricted to 15 MPH? Was interested in going for an e-bike next but not when the only benefit is an easier time going up hill. I assume I would have a harder time on the straights due to the extra weight when i average 20 MPH currently?

  • @SeanoHermano
    @SeanoHermano 3 года назад

    What brand / model are the lights shown on the OBREA bike at 0:31 - 0:35?

  • @aemiliadelroba4022
    @aemiliadelroba4022 Год назад +3

    They are fast for sure , even uphill !

  • @thejustintung
    @thejustintung 3 года назад +4

    Whenever they say "Biggie Smalls" on the GCN show I can't help but think of Connor and Hank standing next to each other.

  • @neelsahay3585
    @neelsahay3585 3 года назад +1

    i wanna see that canyon versus hank's triumph. now THATS a race.

  • @bende83
    @bende83 3 года назад

    Nice. Would be interestin also a Vs. test on long jurney. Where you cover more miles than the ebike can do on single charg, this way the E biker will be forced to save energy and use the heavy ebike without the motor. Keep up the good work.

  • @nuclearguitarman
    @nuclearguitarman 3 года назад +6

    "I Have to say, I really enjoyed making this film, and I hope you guys have too." - Hank 2021.

  • @jrvaden
    @jrvaden 3 года назад +3

    I think we need a round 2 of Hank’s dad on an E-bike.

  • @markshine6172
    @markshine6172 3 года назад +1

    Gcn is like the top gear of road biking!

  • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
    @MrLuigi-oi7gm 3 года назад +1

    Well done to Connor and his Mischievous Little Friend! 👏👏👏

  • @brownshit1
    @brownshit1 3 года назад +12

    "You nearly had me? You barely had your car!"

    • @joenne
      @joenne 3 года назад +2

      granny shifting, not double clutching like you should

    • @arfarzam
      @arfarzam 3 года назад +2

      Ask any racer. Winning is winning.

  • @nigelarlidge9255
    @nigelarlidge9255 3 года назад +4

    Probably not the only one wondering....🤔
    How long did it take for both guys & bike's to complete the 2.9 km lap ?

  • @mattbcameron
    @mattbcameron 2 года назад

    could you compare ebike with no power vs regular bike ( like if battery was dead, or 20 kms into a ride). I know my ebike is a lead weight and feels like brakes are on if no power. Would be cool to know of ebikes one could use- or not use power.

  • @wandarivers2333
    @wandarivers2333 Год назад

    Makes cycling fun again!

  • @Kocan7
    @Kocan7 3 года назад +3

    Next episode: Si vs Hank's dad on unrestricted e-bike

  • @tomrachellesfirstdance7843
    @tomrachellesfirstdance7843 3 года назад +8

    It's like watching Lance Armstrong on a climb back in the day it's that powerful 😂

    • @zefallafez
      @zefallafez 3 года назад +1

      The bike is on steroids instead of the rider.

    • @DanielSong39
      @DanielSong39 Год назад

      @@zefallafez Yeah that's the difference between Lance Armstrong and Chris Froome

    • @zefallafez
      @zefallafez Год назад

      @@DanielSong39 💉💊

  • @SNOWDONTRYFAN
    @SNOWDONTRYFAN 3 года назад

    in the mean while if its the new Gen 4 BOSCH motor The dreaded 'Limp Mode' The 504 error appears when the Bosch motor detects that a tuning chip is fitted. The good news is that this error can be easily cleared by riding for 90 minutes unassisted or other method ?

  • @itry2hide2
    @itry2hide2 3 года назад +1

    Nice sprint comparison. What do you think would happen if the bike was restricted? Also, what about distance riding? BTW, I do have an e-mtb, and would be lost without it.

  • @earlxd6718
    @earlxd6718 3 года назад +5

    It's like me with my MTB against my friends with roadies in a long road ride.

    • @Danoliveira3
      @Danoliveira3 3 года назад

      I know the pain, but if the road gets bad or it starts raining it's smooth sailing on my hard tail

  • @reddevil211287
    @reddevil211287 3 года назад +10

    Mornin' girls and boys! what a gorgeous day out :) so when is this bike component shortage gonna improve?

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 3 года назад +3

      When people stop believing there is a pandemic

    • @mbal4052
      @mbal4052 3 года назад +4

      @@manoz6194 so edgy

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 3 года назад +1

      @@mbal4052 is the best you can do?

  • @juliancromwell6909
    @juliancromwell6909 3 года назад +2

    Fun video but would be good to see the same test with a standard unrestricted motor.

  • @TheTrooperOnLine
    @TheTrooperOnLine 3 года назад

    haha friggen Hank :D ... best guy

  • @rossfripp4503
    @rossfripp4503 3 года назад +3

    I haven't finished watching this yet but the tyres on the Canyon are going to slow it down fairly considerably too. Would have been interesting if they were both on similar bikes and tyres!

  • @PhilMann
    @PhilMann 3 года назад +3

    I have a class 3 (28mph/45kmh) and it's so much fun to ride on gravel. Can still get a major effort on but for a fat and slow person like me it's like being a kid again!

  • @nctrns
    @nctrns 3 года назад +1

    Just wondering. Did Connor have to brake anywhere on that track? Are the corners wide enough for a bike to just fly through without braking?

  • @emilen2
    @emilen2 2 года назад

    Bafang BBSHD motor kit. 1500 W out of the box. Tuned or external controller gives you 3000+ Watts at 72V 50A. And a bit wear on the drive train 🤗

  • @jedisdad2265
    @jedisdad2265 3 года назад +38

    One should NEVER brag about a win on a eBike.

    • @Nphen
      @Nphen 3 года назад +1

      It was tongue-in-cheek satire. He "proved" that on gravel tires and not having experience on the bike, he could still pedal hard and win against a properly equipped rider by a wide margin. People are learning that you can still get a ton of exercise and the motor just takes you there faster. I ride/e-motor to and from trailheads instead of having to clog up roads by driving. Easy to trailer small kids and they love it vs a car.

  • @hornetluca
    @hornetluca 3 года назад +3

    8:59 what kind of handlebar is that?

    • @justinseau
      @justinseau 3 года назад

      It’s Canyon’s proprietary double bar that’s found on all their carbon Grails.

  • @pjsmiffy76
    @pjsmiffy76 3 года назад +1

    I went on a fairly high end ebike in 2016
    I'm super unfit but was easy able to keep up with a fit runner. Later I maxed it to see what happened.

  • @Halbmond
    @Halbmond 2 года назад +1

    I love my own ebike but gosh, this Canyon is beautiful!

  • @Dizzyirl
    @Dizzyirl 3 года назад +5

    What I want to see is an electric fully optimized TT bike with full skin suit😅

  • @richardmeyerowitz6054
    @richardmeyerowitz6054 3 года назад +9

    How much coffee did Hank have that morning? 😂

  • @Pitstopcomponents
    @Pitstopcomponents 2 года назад +2

    They used Unrestricted E-bikes for the Solar Impulse plane to start. Two Bikes were used to hold the Wing ends in the air, i think they got up to 110km/h... which is insane!!!

  • @gopium1976
    @gopium1976 3 года назад

    🚲🔥🔥🔥I need this in my life to get me to work on time 😂