I don't care what nobody says. This man is a top 3 pitcher all time and should be in Cooperstown. No steroid and PED can give what this man was given since birth. THE ABILITY TO PITCH AND DOMINATE! 95-100 MPH Fastball, 85-88 MPH slider, and 85-88 splitter.
@@artboston4787 Doesn't change his skill set. I'd still think he's the GOAT even if he retired before taking PEDs. All PEDs did was extend his career probably, not make him a better pitcher.
@@greyk610 Your not the GOAT because of a few great game performances....his career numbers were massively buoyed by the PED's. I loved watching him pitch but cheating is cheating....now if they were not illegal when he took them that's a bit different....i'm not sure about that.
That's young Roger Clemens: could blow you away with a fastball all game. 17 of those 20 Ks were on heaters. Looked like one slider and two curveballs got the rest.
I wasn't going to be born for another 17 years. Clemens had more strikeouts than I did years till my birth, and I wasn't born until the next millennium haha
There have been many no-hitters and 23 perfect games, but I wonder if one day we will ever see a 27 strikeout game. Perfect games require a lot of help from your fielders but if you strike out every batter now THAT is a perfect pitching performance. May never happen though!
+Matt LaBelle It's happened in the minors. Ron Necciai did it in a Class D (now Rookie League) game in 1952. However, that game had 28 outs due to a dropped third strike. The amazing part is that Necciai accomplished the feat despite battling stomach ulcers. Necciai followed it up with a 24 strikeout game.
Of course possible... its possible ill win the lottery 2 weeks in a row.... but no, 27 strikeouts? might as well win the lottery 3 weeks in a row. Just 20 has been done 5 times. 21? probably eventually.
Phil Brady had a BA .310 in 1986 and he struck out 4 times in that game. Danny Tartabull and Jim Presley both had 25 homeruns and BA of .265. And Dave Henderson had BA of .265 on that season. Ken Phelps's BA was .247 but 24 homeruns on the seasons. They weren't terrible. That game was early in the season and Clemens was throwing laser beam like fastballs.
The announcer did a pretty good job calling this. He had the proper excitement in his voice and he just stated the facts and didn’t get stupid or cute. Good job.
Whoever says he struck out 20 batters in a game because of PEDs is just plain dumb. Take all the PEDs you want and I'm willing to bet 100 bucks you wouldn't even strike out 20 little leaguers, The Rocket had and has talent... That's why he deserves to be in the HOF.
Same with all players who took PEDs. You can't just take PEDs and instantly throw high 90s or instantly become amazing at making contact with a baseball. It takes a lot of skill and the PEDs just gave some extra strength. This IS cheating and I don't like it but people have the wrong idea on what it does.
Jared Morris Exactly my point. People think PEDs are like Mike's Secret Stuff on Space Jam... You take them and instantly become the greatest of all time. It is cheating and it gives you and advantage over people not taking them, but talent is something that can't be bought or injected.
I don't think he started juicing until later years though when he started losing power, maybe right before moving to Toronto. The 80's aren't in the steroid era.
You can say what you want about Roger Clemens cheating the game of baseball but this man was on another level as a pitcher and this game will go down in history for years to come. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017 to find me.
If you want to know why Roger Clemens should be in the Hall of Fame, just replay the video. I don't care who you are, steroids doesn't give you what Roger Clemens had. Period.
impressive!! he was so good!! don't know why he felt he needed PEDs. i think pedro came, pitched better then him in '95, and didn't want to be 2nd best to anyone, at any age. but he was nine years older than pedro.
I saw Roger Clemens at a rookie league game in Kingsport TN where he was watching his son play. It was the Kingsport Mets and Greenville TN Astros. He had to leave, but the next night in the series and came and gave autographs. Class act. Hus son played 3 base.
My dad was in attendance for this game when he was getting a PhD from MIT, sitting behind the bullpen. Must have been an amazing game to be at. On a side note: Clemens clearly started using steroids AFTER he left Boston. How else do you explain him being a mediocre pitcher to suddenly turning around to be his old self again once he was somewhere else and started working with Brian McNamee? I'm content with him being in the Red Sox Hall of Fame, since he was clean then.
Seamus Kennefick only problem with clemens other than the roids is that both his 20 k games were against absolute shit teams. 86 mariners - W67-L95. 96 tigers - W53-L109.
I don;t think he started using until 98. In 97 McNamee wasn't with the Jays. If you look at his 1996 numbers with Boston, the only thing that's really mediocre is his record. He was 10-13 with a 3.63 ERA but he pitched 242 innings and gave up 216 hits. He led the league in Ks with 257. Rusn were really up in the AL that year. The best explanation i can give is that he got better control in subsequent years. In 96 he walked 106. In 97 he walked 68, the year after 88. Also, he probably rededicated himself even more physically. As good as his fastball still was in Toronto, when it came to getting strikeouts, it had become his second best pitch after his splitter. The same was true of his final two-three years in Boston. In Toronto his splitter was pretty close to unhittable.
You have to respect Clemens and the enormity of this achievement but he did strike out Eazy E from NWA at least three times according to this footage. Great rapper...not so hot as a hitter.
That umpire is the reason why we shouldn’t have robots calling balls and strikes. Adds to the pageantry of the game. Some fans might not get it but it’s important. It’s poetry when a pitcher is dealing and the ump is on top of his game
@@TheMrKobeBryant2012 exactly. That's what people don't understand. Sure they were already on track to be hall of famers prior to using, but they played through injuries and extended their dominance for years after it should have fell off because of the steroids.
This was early in his career. I doubt he was using PEDs at this time in his career. You also need to remember PEDs weren't banned until 1991 so even if was using they weren't banned at the time.
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Thats the epitome of command right there .ive never seen the outside corners painted like that for a whole game .ball high in the strike zone noone was hitting them .rich gedman must of loved calling and catching that game . He could of caught roger that day with a pair of water pump pliers .listened to that game on radio was really excited with Ken Coleman and Joe costiglione .great announcers
Bullets with almost no movement, just pure heat the Mariners couldn't catch up to, and you can tell from their body language they knew they were overmatched that night
Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds could have been elected to Hall of Fame even without resorting to steroids. Why did do both wrong and unnecessary? What a pity! But they have no one to blame but themselves for their wrongdoing.
PEDs or no PEDs, Clemens is one of the greatest of all time. Pinpoint accuracy of Maddux combined with the 97-100 mph fastball for many years. Pure dominance.
Being a Yankee fan and having seen Clemens pitch during those post-PED years, I have to say that Clemens seems too have more movement on his fastball as well as better general control before his use of steroids in these early '90's clips. I'm imagining if, for example, Nolan Ryan took roids...I think the extra upper body bulk might have hindered his armspeed and detracted from his overall pitching prowess. It's sad to think that Clemens may have ruined his reputation for drugs that made his pitching worse, or if not, only marginally better.
Back before nanny manager pitch counts when if you struck out 20 and still gave up a run, you were doing all right and good enough to complete the game.
yeah, seeing as how pitchers don't go much more than 100 pitches when there were guys like roger and many others that throw as hard or harder but can go 140 pitches and beyond.
I don't think anyone is saying he took steroids and PEDs when he was in Boston. It's just sad that he couldn't retire when his natural talent left him instead of cheating.
I agree with you, and there are a lot of teams today that are like that. So how come pitchers cant get 20 strikeouts against the marlins, or the astros?
did they say that the 13th strikeout made it a new Red Sox record already!? you're telling me that no Sox pitcher had ever struck out more than 12 in the entire franchises history before that? wow
***** yeah and usually when there is a perfect game or a no hitter going you wont see bunts unless its a no hitter with people on base. but even then thay arent bunting for the hit they are going for the sacrifice. people who bunt during a perfect game usually do it because they have a history with the pitcher.
Every pitcher took or is taking steroids. So what! But they are still not Roger Clemens. The ones you think are not taking steroids, just havent been caught yet..
I don't care what nobody says. This man is a top 3 pitcher all time and should be in Cooperstown. No steroid and PED can give what this man was given since birth. THE ABILITY TO PITCH AND DOMINATE! 95-100 MPH Fastball, 85-88 MPH slider, and 85-88 splitter.
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Sorry but the PED's allowed him to pitch at a high level longer into his career. He cheated to get ahead.
Top 3? He's the GOAT.
@@artboston4787 Doesn't change his skill set. I'd still think he's the GOAT even if he retired before taking PEDs. All PEDs did was extend his career probably, not make him a better pitcher.
@@greyk610 Your not the GOAT because of a few great game performances....his career numbers were massively buoyed by the PED's. I loved watching him pitch but cheating is cheating....now if they were not illegal when he took them that's a bit different....i'm not sure about that.
That's young Roger Clemens: could blow you away with a fastball all game. 17 of those 20 Ks were on heaters. Looked like one slider and two curveballs got the rest.
Loved watching Roger pitch as a kid!
I have vivid memories of this game, watching it on TV as it was taking place. Roger was working like a machine from start to finish.
I wasn't going to be born for another 17 years. Clemens had more strikeouts than I did years till my birth, and I wasn't born until the next millennium haha
There have been many no-hitters and 23 perfect games, but I wonder if one day we will ever see a 27 strikeout game. Perfect games require a lot of help from your fielders but if you strike out every batter now THAT is a perfect pitching performance. May never happen though!
+Matt LaBelle It's happened in the minors. Ron Necciai did it in a Class D (now Rookie League) game in 1952. However, that game had 28 outs due to a dropped third strike. The amazing part is that Necciai accomplished the feat despite battling stomach ulcers. Necciai followed it up with a 24 strikeout game.
Of course possible... its possible ill win the lottery 2 weeks in a row.... but no, 27 strikeouts? might as well win the lottery 3 weeks in a row.
Just 20 has been done 5 times. 21? probably eventually.
That WOULD be something
Steve Nebraska already did it in the world series
maybe someday
Phil Brady had a BA .310 in 1986 and he struck out 4 times in that game. Danny Tartabull and Jim Presley both had 25 homeruns and BA of .265. And Dave Henderson had BA of .265 on that season. Ken Phelps's BA was .247 but 24 homeruns on the seasons. They weren't terrible. That game was early in the season and Clemens was throwing laser beam like fastballs.
Tartabull, Presley, and Henderson were good for a combined 400 Ks a year despite the power numbers.
Reminds me of Nolan Ryan's 7th No Hitter against that Blue Jays line up. Makes it even more impressive.
The announcer did a pretty good job calling this. He had the proper excitement in his voice and he just stated the facts and didn’t get stupid or cute. Good job.
That's how it used to be done. None of them ever made anything about themselves.
Who you talking about or in general?
@@KingKilo88 the announcer who states “A new record, Clemens has set…”
That's the one and only Ned Martin...one of the greatest of all time!!
Bob Montgomery was also commentating with Ned
Whoever says he struck out 20 batters in a game because of PEDs is just plain dumb. Take all the PEDs you want and I'm willing to bet 100 bucks you wouldn't even strike out 20 little leaguers, The Rocket had and has talent... That's why he deserves to be in the HOF.
Same with all players who took PEDs. You can't just take PEDs and instantly throw high 90s or instantly become amazing at making contact with a baseball. It takes a lot of skill and the PEDs just gave some extra strength. This IS cheating and I don't like it but people have the wrong idea on what it does.
Jared Morris Exactly my point. People think PEDs are like Mike's Secret Stuff on Space Jam... You take them and instantly become the greatest of all time. It is cheating and it gives you and advantage over people not taking them, but talent is something that can't be bought or injected.
I don't think he started juicing until later years though when he started losing power, maybe right before moving to Toronto. The 80's aren't in the steroid era.
Jorge Molina You miust be a blind Red Sox fan
Cheater. No HoF period.
He was just a bull on the mound. One of the greatest of all time. No nonsense wind-up, great location, multiple speeds...he was just amazing.
On the night of this incredible feet everyone in Boston was focused on the Celtics playoff game at the Garden.
Hmmm 🧐 YES 🙌 and ONLY on that night, and forever more on this event!!!! 🌎⚾️😤☝️
Strikeouts 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 13, 15, 16, 17, and 18 swing and a miss.
Strikeouts 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 14, and 20 caught looking
Strikeouts 9, and 19 check swing strikeouts
nice breakdown
You can say what you want about Roger Clemens cheating the game of baseball but this man was on another level as a pitcher and this game will go down in history for years to come. And on a side note I have a you tube channel type in Russell Mills May 22, 2017 to find me.
If you want to know why Roger Clemens should be in the Hall of Fame, just replay the video. I don't care who you are, steroids doesn't give you what Roger Clemens had. Period.
You have no idea of knowing that. Roger sure did feel that it would help his performance if he used the roids
Tony63909
same with Barry
Most players were on roids. All those batters were on roids so it was even on both sides. Enough said
Jeezus he had a 1.85 ERA coming into this game.
1986 Roger Clemens was virtually unhittable, dude was bonkers
This was in April though, he probably only had a few starts on the seson.
Roger is the most dominant pitcher ever. I don't care what anybody says.
I have never seen the crowd go as crazy for a starter as they did for Roger
Watch some Pedro highlights
@@TigerofRobarePedro’s a bum compared to Roger.
Hew was throwing 98-99 mph all nine innings
This was the last year of the Mariner pitchfork unis. Those old school uniforms are beautiful!
The Red Sox had two of the top five pitchers in Major League baseball history. Roger Clemens and Pedro Martinez
That was serious heat and gas
impressive!! he was so good!! don't know why he felt he needed PEDs. i think pedro came, pitched better then him in '95, and didn't want to be 2nd best to anyone, at any age. but he was nine years older than pedro.
I saw Roger Clemens at a rookie league game in Kingsport TN where he was watching his son play. It was the Kingsport Mets and Greenville TN Astros. He had to leave, but the next night in the series and came and gave autographs. Class act. Hus son played 3 base.
Without a doubt Roger belongs in The Hall
@Bread And Circuses just what I said, you don't drug your way to greatness over a 2.5 decade career.
That was great to sit right behind the plate for that game. I saw every pitch
I just never get tired of watching this video!
My dad was in attendance for this game when he was getting a PhD from MIT, sitting behind the bullpen. Must have been an amazing game to be at.
On a side note: Clemens clearly started using steroids AFTER he left Boston. How else do you explain him being a mediocre pitcher to suddenly turning around to be his old self again once he was somewhere else and started working with Brian McNamee? I'm content with him being in the Red Sox Hall of Fame, since he was clean then.
Seamus Kennefick only problem with clemens other than the roids is that both his 20 k games were against absolute shit teams. 86 mariners - W67-L95. 96 tigers - W53-L109.
Hey, still a record that should be celebrated, regardless if the teams sucked.
+Seamus Kennefick WAs he was using peds when he struck out 20 batters ten years later??
He probably started using steroids when he was teamed up with McNamee, which was after he left Boston.
I don;t think he started using until 98. In 97 McNamee wasn't with the Jays. If you look at his 1996 numbers with Boston, the only thing that's really mediocre is his record. He was 10-13 with a 3.63 ERA but he pitched 242 innings and gave up 216 hits. He led the league in Ks with 257. Rusn were really up in the AL that year. The best explanation i can give is that he got better control in subsequent years. In 96 he walked 106. In 97 he walked 68, the year after 88. Also, he probably rededicated himself even more physically. As good as his fastball still was in Toronto, when it came to getting strikeouts, it had become his second best pitch after his splitter. The same was true of his final two-three years in Boston. In Toronto his splitter was pretty close to unhittable.
Clemens was and is the best pitcher of all time and my favorite sox player of my time !!
Young Roger Clemens bore a striking resemblance to Tom Cruise.
You have to respect Clemens and the enormity of this achievement but he did strike out Eazy E from NWA at least three times according to this footage.
Great rapper...not so hot as a hitter.
Easy E was also the starting corner back for 4 of the San Francisco 49ers Super Bowl titles.
Can’t beat real crowds.. also who was the umpire here? I love his strike out calls
That umpire is the reason why we shouldn’t have robots calling balls and strikes. Adds to the pageantry of the game. Some fans might not get it but it’s important. It’s poetry when a pitcher is dealing and the ump is on top of his game
Umpire is Vic Voltaggio
@@tinsk34 Nah umpires have become too much of a hindrance.
The late Ned Martin on the call.
Don't forget Monty the color man.
such a classic m's performance!
😅😂🤣🚀🌎😎🤔
Awesome pitcher and awesome dude!
You can see just by looking at him he wasn't using PEDs at the time
Yeah but he's 22 here lol
He and Bonds extended their longevity via steroids.
@@TheMrKobeBryant2012 exactly. That's what people don't understand. Sure they were already on track to be hall of famers prior to using, but they played through injuries and extended their dominance for years after it should have fell off because of the steroids.
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Neither he nor Barry Bonds needed them. Therein lies the tragedy.
Anyone else notice he balked twice when he was from the stretch? He didn't come remotely close to pausing after coming set.
If no runners are on base they generally don't call a balk. Rarely an ump will call a pitch a ball for a balk with no runners on.
This was early in his career. I doubt he was using PEDs at this time in his career. You also need to remember PEDs weren't banned until 1991 so even if was using they weren't banned at the time.
+Matt Cline He wasn't. The hall of fame people are idiots!
He is an ass, just look at what he said about the baseball classic
Greenies too
Nick Loscalzo MLB scout hitters feared the rocket it was a great honor to know the man who changed the pitching game and the way we look at the best game in the work the younger ball player do not realize this is the largest brotherhood in the world we have to get the younger players to embrace the culture
Roger is the BEST ........PERIOD
Meet a great man, when you meet Roger ...your fortunate 😊😊
30 years ago today
See it's hard for me to hate on clemens because he really did play a long time for the Sox and gave it all he had
I love watching pom
You that read wrong
You read that wrong too
You read that twice to make sure you didn't read it wrong
It baffles me how true this is ha ha
Made me laugh.
You got me lol
Stop commenting on this.
Micah Morris I didn't read it wrong
He belongs in the fucking hall of fame
2:52 Ump Vic Voltaggio looking great right there.
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I’m explaining to my son who this pitcher was , wowzers !!
Thats the epitome of command right there .ive never seen the outside corners painted like that for a whole game .ball high in the strike zone noone was hitting them .rich gedman must of loved calling and catching that game . He could of caught roger that day with a pair of water pump pliers .listened to that game on radio was really excited with Ken Coleman and Joe costiglione .great announcers
Randy Johnson struck out 20 WITHOUT Steroids.
Clemens wasn’t on steroids here bozo.
That fastball is devastating. 98-100 mph
How did he have 3 complete games but only 24.1 IP?
Wait, H O W?
Ryan would be envious of the fastball Clemens' had during his game!!!
Wore my Red Sox cap yesterday ...it helps me ⚾️⚾️⚾️
When he with the Bosox he was awesome.
He won 🥇 7 Cy Young’s 🏆 what are you talking about!!!/???? 🤦♂️ 🏅
Great memories!!
Bullets with almost no movement, just pure heat the Mariners couldn't catch up to, and you can tell from their body language they knew they were overmatched that night
Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds could have been elected to Hall of Fame even without resorting to steroids. Why did do both wrong and unnecessary?
What a pity! But they have no one to blame but themselves for their wrongdoing.
So they could make more money?
But MLB was in agreement with what they were doing. WHY do you suppose…. 🤑🤑🤑🤢🤮🤖👿
1:14 how the fuck did that batter possibly think he didn't swing over half the plate????
Should be in the hall of fame with bonds
he is the best pitcher.
PEDs or no PEDs, Clemens is one of the greatest of all time. Pinpoint accuracy of Maddux combined with the 97-100 mph fastball for many years. Pure dominance.
Nah
And to think Seattle had the lead at one point in this game.
its always a good feeling when you see an ump calling em a few inches off the plate.
IMHO, Roger Clemens (1986) was as fierce, unhittable as a pitcher gets (so far!).
I remember that game.
Being a Yankee fan and having seen Clemens pitch during those post-PED years, I have to say that Clemens seems too have more movement on his fastball as well as better general control before his use of steroids in these early '90's clips. I'm imagining if, for example, Nolan Ryan took roids...I think the extra upper body bulk might have hindered his armspeed and detracted from his overall pitching prowess. It's sad to think that Clemens may have ruined his reputation for drugs that made his pitching worse, or if not, only marginally better.
Yes 🙌 sad 😔 and then 😱🤬😤
This is 1986
Ned Martin and Bob Montgomery. They were a good team together.
Back before nanny manager pitch counts when if you struck out 20 and still gave up a run, you were doing all right and good enough to complete the game.
a record hard to break
The best
The best pitcher ever, the all time home run leader and the all time hit leader are not in the hall of fame... bullshit
Dude he threw gas ⛽️
Gotta love how Bob Montgomery screams into his mic at 2:55 and nearly blows it out.
lol that's not Monty
@@jamesdepasquale9602 Yes it is. He’s the only other one on mic. “Lol”
I don't think he was using steroids at that time, for me he began to use them when he was playing with the blue jays after boston left him go
Trivia question.
Without the help of Google,
Who was the catcher that game?
Nolan Ryan?
yeah, seeing as how pitchers don't go much more than 100 pitches when there were guys like roger and many others that throw as hard or harder but can go 140 pitches and beyond.
Behind the bag still gives me nightmares
GOAT
Clemens was fucking nasty my nigga.. dude threw the best game ever. National baseball Hall of fame soon
Say what you will about Clemens but he was a chad in this game.
The mariners batters were so helpless against him 😭😂
2:54 wtf
Lol i heard it.
I don't think anyone is saying he took steroids and PEDs when he was in Boston. It's just sad that he couldn't retire when his natural talent left him instead of cheating.
How does David Ortiz get inducted into the hall of fame this year but Clemens and bonds are left out for good when Ortiz tested positive for ped
Blue was giving him the wide plate calls all night.
the fact that he'll never get into the Hall shows how much the Hall of Fame is a joke.
As Foolish Baseball once said "The BBWA Hall of Fame voters is as inconsistent as Roughned Odor"
Sit downnnnn!!! Baterrr
Gettman's arm was probably getting tired from all those throws to third base
Deadlyyyy sliderrrr
I agree with you, and there are a lot of teams today that are like that. So how come pitchers cant get 20 strikeouts against the marlins, or the astros?
did they say that the 13th strikeout made it a new Red Sox record already!? you're telling me that no Sox pitcher had ever struck out more than 12 in the entire franchises history before that? wow
and if his 15th tied his career high then wouldn't that at least be the previous Red Sox record?
Scott Johannsen they prolly included minor leagues
Scott Johannsen clemens played for the yankees as well probably set his career high with them
Alex Clark he played with the yankees after the blue jays traded him, he signed with the blue jays after he left the red sox.
No, and as a matter of fact clemens himself had a 15 SO game in 84.
Imagine if those last 2 batters bunted so he couldn't get the record
***** yeah and usually when there is a perfect game or a no hitter going you wont see bunts unless its a no hitter with people on base. but even then thay arent bunting for the hit they are going for the sacrifice. people who bunt during a perfect game usually do it because they have a history with the pitcher.
Cos there would be a brawl on the field. That's why.
I think he was on the juice later, or was it proven he was on in 86?
Clemens started using PED's during the late 90's, according to the guy who claims to have supplied him when he pitched for Toronto.
Roger ...carrying America 🇺🇸
Every pitcher took or is taking steroids. So what! But they are still not Roger Clemens. The ones you think are not taking steroids, just havent been caught yet..
Every pitcher? Man you shine of ignorance.
The Rocket!
The record for a game really is 21
The guy that threw 21 strikeouts pitched 16 innings. This is 9 innings.
not in a 9 inning game
Simply regulating.
How are we ignoring the Balk at 1:13 haha
He belonged in Boston