NIKON BUYS RED | My Hopes for the Future
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2024
- Nikon is acquiring @reddigitalcinema! Pretty sure this caught everyone by surprise. I personally think this is super exciting and I ramble in this video about what I hope can come from both RED and Nikon. See you in the comments
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Welcome to the Nikon family! We are a pretty good group once you get to know us.
My hope is that the corporate cultures will mesh, each company will lean on the expertise of each other and out of that will come some amazing products.
I look forward to your insights on video and to learn some skills here at your RUclips home.
Thanks for the warm welcome! I’m going to try to get a Z8 in to test to get to know the Nikon world a bit more. Y’all go easy on me! Haha
This is great for the industry and the users. More infrastructure for RED, access to technology/patents for Nikon.
Agreed
Maybe for them,. from a user perspective, start to think to throw away all your RF/EF lenses. Is that so exciting?
@@deceres1 ooorrrr sell the RF lenses if needed and just adapt EF lenses?? Who would throw away lenses? lmao
nobody throws anything of course: But it's not an exciting situation now. I'm going to purchase a set of cinema lenses.... and with this recent news is pretty making me struggle
@@deceres1 with the majority cinema lenses being PL or EF, I wouldn't see that as an issue. Others like cooke's spl can actually swap the mounts by the user. The only difference would be if you get PL to Z or PL to RF adapter.
I want a Nikon medium format camera with seventeen stops of dynamic range. Now that is fully possible.
Would be sick
I’m a Nikon shooter. I have a Z9 and Z8. I shoot a lot corporate photo and video and the ability to switch back and forth from 14 bit 45mp RAW to 10bit SDR or Log is so powerful. For a lot of Nikon shooters this presents an interesting situation. Before I went with the Z9 I had two Z6’s and actually considered a Komodo OG. But the CFast card and RF mount turned me off. I didn’t want to have 2 lens systems. So it was nice to see that at least the Komodo X got a CFx-B slot. Still the RF mount though. Unlike Sony and Canon with their respective cine lines, Nikon doesn’t have any upward mobility. For my purposes though the Z9 and Z8 are absolute beasts. Instant start up. Instant switch from one mode to the other. Camera set up and quick access menus stay true to the mode you’re in. But if someone’s video abilities and needs exceed the Z9, there is no where to move to without going to another system. So this may actually help increase sales because, take me for example, would love a “Komodo Z”. Or a “Nikon C70” designed by RED. Something less hybrid perhaps and leans more towards video. Active cooling etc. This is amazing news and has kept me buzzing all day. I’ve been a RED fan since I saw Greg Williams do that shoot with Megan Fox for GQ magazine back with the RED ONE.
Lastly, to put the companies in perspective; RED has 220 employees. Nikon has over 20,000.
I’m really intrigued by the z8. I also have rf lenses so in the short term, Iwould still lose quite a bit of money if I sold those lenses and got z mount lenses. In a couple years, I could see a move to Nikon depending how things shake out
Man, amazing take and outlook. Excited to see where this goes.
Thanks!
As a shooter that misses shooting with Nikon, I moved over to Sony, this is awesome news. It will be interesting to see what Nikon does with the acquisition if they get it. Video shooting was what brought me over to Sony. While there are more features on this side I still miss the feel in hand and use of Nikon cameras. They get this so right. Subjective yes, but so true for me.
I currently own an fx3 and r5 as well. R5 has been great for stills and fx3 for the xlr inputs BUT I’d 100% switch to Nikon if they implemented internal R3D.
With the Z9 an now z8, they have moved passed Sony's as they have internal Raw now in every format to 60 fps 8k. Now with red acquisition I expect RED raw formats and its red worflow and color science. This is the part that have been lacking in Nikon (LOG implementation).
Nikon just dropped a BOMB for real. this is game changing, for the entire market TBH
Yuuuuup! Exciting times
I’d love for Nikon to be able to find some more room for more firmware support on the OG Komodo! 😅
Ya. Sadly I think it’s tapped out haha
@@TylerEdwards Lol! I’ll keep on dreaming 😂
Great review, I sub. Welcome to the Nikon fam :)
Thanks!
Dude, this may be the only reason why I would ever consider a Nikon for motion...great video, thanks!
Same! It would be fun to hop into a new system though!
This was for sure a patents acquisition. So some of those codecs will make it over to their future line of prosummer bodies. The biggest thing is they now own a top of the line video line of cameras. They will for sure move away from the RF mount and bring their Z mount over the new RED bodies. The biggest thing here is that Nikon makes their own glass, which will make it very intriguing. Nikon cinema glass? That's exciting for sure.
Now that would be interesting but I hope they don’t make the focus opposite like their still lenses haha
In Z cameras you can set your prefered direction for focus CC or CCW. Not only that I think you can set prefered direction for shutter and aperture dials when it comes for stills, it was possible even in their DSLRs. There is no reason to not implement it in MILC. Nikon was thinking about focus direction with Z line, because they know that a lot of the potential new users may come outside of the Nikon space. @@TylerEdwards
I strongly suggest you guys go listen to Jarred himself talk to Scott and Phil on Scott’s podcast from this past weekend, lots of information I’m sure you guys would appreciate.
Thanks, Tyler for putting things in perspective from a positive point of view (from your point of view). First serious/positive video I've seen so far I was kinda waiting for. I'm still processing this whole situation, but I value your experience and respect very much the content you're putting out there. Thank you
I appreciate that!
@@TylerEdwards 👊
Looking forward for Fuji to buy IMAX.
Also insta360 buying ARRI lol
Great video! I would only want to see red REDCODE raw on the Nikon, because I think Red‘s color science sucks compared to Nikon Z9/Z8. Nikon has more Alexa like color than the brown skin tones on red in my opinion
REDCODE raw in a mirrorless would certainly be awesome. Thanks for the comment!
Can't wait for the Nikon Z9X Talon 🙃
I think we will for sure see a crossover of tech in Nikon's high end models and most probably exclusive to Z9 successors. Canon has to be nervous with this announcement. I think Nikon is going to use RED's global shutter sensor as a straight up competitor to Sony instead of having to use Sony's sloppy seconds and delayed availability of sensor tech.
A Nikon Z9II or whatever with the raptor x sensor would be crazy
I'm so stoked for this. I do mostly stills and I've switched between every system and finally landed on Nikon. Nikon is the best, bar none. Their bodies and lenses put Sony and Canon to shame. Jarrod from RED was doing an interview yesterday on Scott Balkum's channel and basically said the processing units in RED cameras are not nearly as good as Nikon's because they didn't have the money to R&D one. He also illuded to that being the reason that the AF isn't great on their cameras. He sounded very excided for RED to get their hands on the Nikon processing unit. That might give some insight as to where things are headed.
I only caught a little bit of the end of the stream. Rewatching it now! Would be cool to send in KX and stuff for a hardware upgrade down the road. Doubtful that would happen tho lol.
This will change the game more so for Sony, canon.. maybe good news for faster production and additional support. Good news I hope😊
Agreed. Canon should be worried.
Well .. I did not see that coming. I guess Nikon needs RED tech to compete .. good move Nikon! Here comes Nikon Z10 with 16 bit RED RAW. :)
haha that would be epic
@@TylerEdwards I know right? then I would move from Sony to Nikon for sure! I LOVE my KomodoX its amazing to work with. And thanks for the tip, I didn't know you could adapt Sony E glass to a Nikon body. Have you done that before?
now we need Sony to buy ATOMOS so we can have internal RAW recording of some sort. :)
It would be very cool if RED and Nikon built a larger sensor fabrication facility in the US. They might even get federal funds to help. Sony fabricates many Nikon sensors, so the current RED sensor production may stay mostly the same.
A new $3k camera would be very interesting, either a Nikon Z8R like the Canon R5C or a RED GILA like the Sony FX3. Keeping RED mostly distinct, except for using the Z-mount, and Nikon mostly distinct, except for implementing REDCODE Raw, would leave space for this hybrid division.
If REDCODE Raw could be implemented on the Expeed7 processor via firmware, even only for 4K60, that would be cool for the Z9/Z8/Zf/Z6III. The Expeed8 would hopefully add enough processing hardware to fully implement it for the Z9II, etc.
Ya, that would be epic! Only time will tell. Pretty sure Nikon makes their own sensor for the Z8/9 (or they designed it maybe?) so it would be super cool if they used that infrastructure to mass produce the raptor sensors or something!
@@TylerEdwards Nikon designed the sensors for the Z9/Z8, Sony fabricates it. Perhaps Nikon's resources will allow them to build a larger manufacturing facility here, using federal funds to help.
I'm optimistic
Same!
Nikon is also one of the largest chip manufacturers that have provided car, medical and tech companies with which I know will help make faster and more efficient silicon in these cameras too.
I am with you on most things... but one thing, Nikon has some of the best colors in the industry.
I watched this!!!
LETS GOO!!!!! lol thanks for dropping by dude!
Great news 📰
Agreed
I've seen in the past that RED tends to not have a great reputation with customer service, I hope Nikon has better service and might help in that regard. I never got a Nikon so I don't know personally but 🤔
My personal experience has been very positive with RED’s CS.
Do you think Nikon could add the red codecs to their he present Z 9 and Z 8 through firmware just to create some buzz ? Or would it not be something that’s possible ? Thanks for the video 👌🏼
I’m not sure. If the hardware supported it, technically they could I guess, but only Nikon & RED know if that’ll happen
Via firmware yes. But what also works well is a RED LUT on N-Log or N-RAW. I actually love editing with that look.
@@mikeblack_pw thank you 🙏🏻
Interesting
Veeeeeeery interesting
Red is gone! Now is all on the Nikon hands! We will see how they handle red
I don’t think red is going anywhere in the foreseeable future
Trust me, Nikon are watching all of this
👀 Hey Nikon!
So much has happened, and Adobe has yet to support Nikon RAW.
Interesting. I did not know that
@@TylerEdwards I got tired of waiting and purchased Davinci Resolve Studio. I'm sure many others have done the same
#ShotOnNikon
#isthatanikon?
NED
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N for Nikon replacing the R in Red
Is REDRAW patent is about to expire?
I think in a few years if I’m not mistaken but I’m not 100% sure
@@TylerEdwards So the patent law abuse comes to an end, and they wanted to make money before it is too late....I am gonna miss those 'Red Mini Mag" scams and law suit circus.
Funny enough, Sony makes the sensors Nikon uses.
Haha. Maybe red will in the future
To spice it up, Sony make sensors with Nikon FAB machines 😂