Great video. Exactly what I was looking for. Im installing the same style kit diff brand but exact same placement of it at bottom of shock rather than top.
Why didn't you install a longer track bar or the Rough Country track bar drop bracket? Without installing a longer track bar or drop bracket the axle is not centered under the truck. The driver side tire is now 3/4" inch or more farther out than the passenger side. Rough Country sells a 2" leveling kit with those same aluminum blocks you used plus a track bar drop bracket for $70 more than just the blocks alone. It seems stupid to skimp on $70 when applying it to a $50,000+ truck. You should also mention that the front end has to be re-aligned as part of the installation. Nice clear video of the install. Thank you.
I have the same tire/wheel setup on my f350. Those tires are about 32.2". If it had the 20" option, which it doesn't, you're right they're just over 34". You can fit 35x12.5 tires with no level but these trucks need a level to look right!
Thanks for the clarity on how the spacers fit. I see many offer a round puck and others offer the ones like this with a support for the factory spring seat. I just want to level the truck and now more. I do not like the amount of work required to adjust the speedo. Back when I was at Ford we could change the programming with a Star Tester. I hope they still can; though I know the star tester is not in the picture any more. How much down travel is left in the shock now? I think all these videos should be done in a drive way or home garage with a floor jack and stands. LOL the access to a lift for me is long gone. Fingers crossed for one day though.
This is how people end up with F250 death wobble. Not using proper torque specs on the suspension nuts and bolts. This is also how my trailer dealer almost killed me. Not using a proper torque wrench set to 250lbs on my WDH. This is also why I do all my own work. Because I realize things are supposed to be tightened properly or people can die. Not only myself, but all those driving around me.
So, you dont need to put a bigger shock up front? Saw another video, they put spacers under the sway bar where it mounts to the chassis, nothing on this kit?
What is the clearance like. Just ordered some 22's and 35x12.50's. Trying to decide wether to do like a 4 inch lift or wether to do the leveling kit. Long story short do you think it would easily clear 22's?
@@CaseysAutomotiveChantilly those bolts that hold the stock spring seat. I need the stock length bolts. I am lowering the truck to stock height. Due to wifes bad back and knees. I can't find those bolts online. How would I find them? I sure would appreciate the help
I leveled my 2017 XLT Crew Cab diesel with ICON springs, but I opted for Fox shocks. I have the SOTA 20x9 wheels and Toyo R/T. Ride sucked. Then, I dumped the Fox shocks and went with Icon, Night and Day difference. I will never buy Fox anything. Bilstein 5100s are also better.
What they do not tell you is that the $60.00 2"leveling kit will cost you $635.00. This is what I found out after I installed the Rough Country 2" leveling kit, I had to buy a $450.00 adjustable track bar because the spacer offset the front tires 1.5" to the left so to get the front end back in track with the rear it cost $450.00 or wear out the front tires. Then comes the front end alignment $125.00. Now with this all said and done, add $60.00 plus $450.00 plus $125.00 = $635.00 to raise up 2" at a cost of $317.50 per inch. Is it worth it that is up to you I would not do it again.
Any squeaks in the dash after install? If I chose to not install the new program the pro would be not dealing with the install and possible squeaks, the con my speedometer is off by x percent. How important is that? I think I can deal with the speedometer being off a little.
The rims and tires are the big cost, depending on what rims, and what tires, prices are all over. The actual install for the leveling kit is a small portion of this job. 500 bucks ish. Some opt for inexpensive tires but end up buying another set because they are unhappy with wear or ride quality. Give us a shout and we can go over options! Or visit us at www.caseysautomotive.com/custom-builds-upgrades/
Nice job done !!! Have one question so if I put just the 2 inch spacer under spring no other parts needed to install? Just take the truck to get it realignment done and that’s it ??? No other things to install??
The better fix is to have Ford use the factory computer and set tire size to the max stock (295/65R20) which measures 34.10. These Toys and most 35's measure out at 34.5. Not much bigger, the level kit only allows wider wheels and tires. I would skip the whole Hypertec thing. My Ford dealership reprogrammed my factory tire size when I bumped from 275/65/18 to 35x12.50 20 on my 2017 XLT.
Shouldve covered the dash b4 dragging the cluster panel over that cheap a/c vent bezel die cast plastic . Yikes . Its scratched ! rowl! SCT TUNERS OUT PERFORM THE REST . RAJO
Do you need to reprogram the VSC on the Ford after leveling? I know I had to bring my Tundra Crewmax Platinum back to the dealer to do that. Apparently run like crap until the VSC is reset. Or does that not apply to the Ford Super Duty?
I am sure its because the customer still wants to be able to use this truck to pull trailers, slide in camper, or whatever. Leveling kits are not even close to the price of a full suspension lift. $150-$250 compared to $2500-$5000. Note as well, leveling kits do not affect the ride quality or the safety features and are still covered under the manufactures warranty - when a full suspension lift is used most of the manufactures will deny any warranty claims based on the modifications made. Just food for thought.
Agreed. I have the longest drop shank I could find for my weight distribution hitch and it's almost at the lowest point. I don't know how you could use a WHD or hitch up to a 5th wheel camper if you installed a suspension lift kit.
The rear of these trucks is higher than the front from the factory. This is to compensate for a big load in the bed. To some they just want to have a level look. Ever heard of Cali Style? It's the opposite effect, lower in the rear than the front. Thats something I cannot wrap my head around. To each there own..
Probably the worst lighting I've seen in a youtube video. Just imagine, having to use a flashlight in an HD video............ LoL................. This video has moved me off the fence.......... I've decided not to install a leveling kit.
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Great video. Exactly what I was looking for. Im installing the same style kit diff brand but exact same placement of it at bottom of shock rather than top.
Best rendition on RUclips of this project thanks man 👍🏼
You can do the tire change meter correction with Forscan under 5minutes to any size
Was thinking the same
Why didn't you install a longer track bar or the Rough Country track bar drop bracket? Without installing a longer track bar or drop bracket the axle is not centered under the truck. The driver side tire is now 3/4" inch or more farther out than the passenger side. Rough Country sells a 2" leveling kit with those same aluminum blocks you used plus a track bar drop bracket for $70 more than just the blocks alone. It seems stupid to skimp on $70 when applying it to a $50,000+ truck. You should also mention that the front end has to be re-aligned as part of the installation.
Nice clear video of the install. Thank you.
Good to know. Thanks for this information
Great , now the axle is shifted to one side. Shoddy work !
Why wouldn't you use Forscan to recalibrate tire size? Saves pulling out the dash.
???????? Yhea! Ain't got no answer homie?
@@anthonywilliamson2080 skippy doesn't have a clue that's why he does things half ass!
The speedo can be recalibrated using FordPass by simply hooking to OBD2 port.
Holy cow what a great job well done.
Nick Freyermuth thanks Nick!
U can fit them with out the level , and the stock tire in like a 34.5 , so gas mileage defenetly won't change
Jay marin it's a truck I definitely wouldn't be thinking of gas mileage if I was concerned about gas mileage I would be driving a prius
Actually gas mileage will change if the new set up is heavier. More rolling mass means more power needed to move it.🙂
I have the same tire/wheel setup on my f350. Those tires are about 32.2". If it had the 20" option, which it doesn't, you're right they're just over 34". You can fit 35x12.5 tires with no level but these trucks need a level to look right!
Thanks for the clarity on how the spacers fit. I see many offer a round puck and others offer the ones like this with a support for the factory spring seat. I just want to level the truck and now more. I do not like the amount of work required to adjust the speedo. Back when I was at Ford we could change the programming with a Star Tester. I hope they still can; though I know the star tester is not in the picture any more. How much down travel is left in the shock now?
I think all these videos should be done in a drive way or home garage with a floor jack and stands. LOL the access to a lift for me is long gone. Fingers crossed for one day though.
Just what was looking for!
I’ve been shopping for F250. You’re a long way from Texas.
Did you have to add a track bar bracket to center it?
Nope. Did realign the suspension it only knocks the toe out slightly so it's an easy adjustment!
Did you loosen both sides before lifting to take out the spring? I only have one side loose
Can you please tell me specs of tire with offsets. The rim is 20x9.
Thanks
After the 2in. lift. Should I raise the height of the shock or stay with the stock?
Blakacedevil the shocks are stock on this leveling kit.
Raise bro
Pro ryde gives you a shock bracket to raise it to factory length. If you don't that shock is 2 inches closer to being over extended
This is how people end up with F250 death wobble. Not using proper torque specs on the suspension nuts and bolts.
This is also how my trailer dealer almost killed me. Not using a proper torque wrench set to 250lbs on my WDH.
This is also why I do all my own work. Because I realize things are supposed to be tightened properly or people can die. Not only myself, but all those driving around me.
So, you dont need to put a bigger shock up front? Saw another video, they put spacers under the sway bar where it mounts to the chassis, nothing on this kit?
Are you near Jackson TN soo I need same thing for my truck?
I have a 2019 f350 can use the OEM rims?
I have f150 2016. what would be the perfect tire size for my truck
I have 2019 Ford F250 Lariat 4x4, with 2" spacer and 35x12.5x20 tires will there be any rubbing? Rough Country only recommends up to 33" tires?
Great video. Nice upgrade. Where are you guys located? Just subbed.
Heritage Farms Texas thanks!! We are in Sterling and Chantilly Virginia.
Does he even say the tire size? Or just meaty
35x12.50r20 is the tire size
What is the clearance like. Just ordered some 22's and 35x12.50's. Trying to decide wether to do like a 4 inch lift or wether to do the leveling kit. Long story short do you think it would easily clear 22's?
Chris Kelley try going to customwheeloffsets.com . It should fit but your offset will be a deciding favtor
What size/brand aftermarket coil spring can you replace the factory coil springs for a softer ride?
I'd change tires and rims first. Smaller rim diameter and taller tire will make a smoother ride for sure.
@@CaseysAutomotiveChantilly those bolts that hold the stock spring seat. I need the stock length bolts. I am lowering the truck to stock height. Due to wifes bad back and knees. I can't find those bolts online. How would I find them? I sure would appreciate the help
What's the black strips on the head light reflector? Where did you get them
Are those 20x9 or 20x10 wheels
How long was just the level kit job?
I just did a leveling kit with springs, fox shocks and toyo MTs on 20s and it killed the ride. So bummed!!
Can you expand what aspects killed your ride?
I leveled my 2017 XLT Crew Cab diesel with ICON springs, but I opted for Fox shocks. I have the SOTA 20x9 wheels and Toyo R/T. Ride sucked. Then, I dumped the Fox shocks and went with Icon, Night and Day difference. I will never buy Fox anything. Bilstein 5100s are also better.
@@cjj7264 bumpy, skittery, not planted traction
What they do not tell you is that the $60.00 2"leveling kit will cost you $635.00. This is what I found out after I installed the Rough Country 2" leveling kit, I had to buy a $450.00 adjustable track bar because the spacer offset the front tires 1.5" to the left so to get the front end back in track with the rear it cost $450.00 or wear out the front tires. Then comes the front end alignment $125.00. Now with this all said and done, add $60.00 plus $450.00 plus $125.00 = $635.00 to raise up 2" at a cost of $317.50 per inch. Is it worth it that is up to you I would not do it again.
What offset are the wheels?
Yeah, I want to know this too. ET1 or ET20?
Any squeaks in the dash after install? If I chose to not install the new program the pro would be not dealing with the install and possible squeaks, the con my speedometer is off by x percent. How important is that? I think I can deal with the speedometer being off a little.
Greg Mueller no squeaks! It’s real easy to install too. As long as you manage your speed, you are right it’s not that big a deal.
How tall is it after?
What is the size of the wheel and what is the offset?
Price range for the tire,rims,levling kit and install
The rims and tires are the big cost, depending on what rims, and what tires, prices are all over. The actual install for the leveling kit is a small portion of this job. 500 bucks ish. Some opt for inexpensive tires but end up buying another set because they are unhappy with wear or ride quality. Give us a shout and we can go over options! Or visit us at www.caseysautomotive.com/custom-builds-upgrades/
@@CaseysAutomotiveChantilly if people pay $500 great, but that doesn't look like more than 2-3 hours of work. what is your shop labor rate?
@@nocoolname32 This one only tool 13 min and 57 seconds according to the video. @ our labor rate that shold be like 9 bucks.
Nice job done !!! Have one question so if I put just the 2 inch spacer under spring no other parts needed to install? Just take the truck to get it realignment done and that’s it ??? No other things to install??
Correcto!
So I am assuming the Hypertech attached to the back of speedo gage recalibrates the speedometer for the new 35" tires. Right?
vppnbrent yep. Download the new program and plug it in. Easy peasy.
The better fix is to have Ford use the factory computer and set tire size to the max stock (295/65R20) which measures 34.10. These Toys and most 35's measure out at 34.5. Not much bigger, the level kit only allows wider wheels and tires. I would skip the whole Hypertec thing. My Ford dealership reprogrammed my factory tire size when I bumped from 275/65/18 to 35x12.50 20 on my 2017 XLT.
What size are those wheels ?
37 fit without any lift or leveling kit
What would happen if you just threw in a 1.5 leveler from Rough Country and did nothing else but put on 35'S?
Pronto Power I wonder how that would ride...
Shouldve covered the dash b4 dragging the cluster panel over that cheap a/c vent bezel die cast plastic .
Yikes . Its scratched ! rowl! SCT TUNERS OUT PERFORM THE REST . RAJO
Dean DiCrescenzo no scratches! Squeaky clean!!
I agree.. Probably scratches the hell out of the new dash..
Anthony Williamson the only thing scratching is the haters.
Does this void the warranty?
NSBJohn nope
no rubbing?
Zero rubbing
Do you need to reprogram the VSC on the Ford after leveling? I know I had to bring my Tundra Crewmax Platinum back to the dealer to do that. Apparently run like crap until the VSC is reset. Or does that not apply to the Ford Super Duty?
you only need to reprogram if going to larger tires
No track bar upgrade, no sway bar drop brackets and no castor shims? That has "Death wobble" written all over it...
wrong
Why not just do a full suspension lift?, I mean just spend the money do it right
bryan crowe I’m with you, what the customer wants the customer gets!
I am sure its because the customer still wants to be able to use this truck to pull trailers, slide in camper, or whatever. Leveling kits are not even close to the price of a full suspension lift. $150-$250 compared to $2500-$5000. Note as well, leveling kits do not affect the ride quality or the safety features and are still covered under the manufactures warranty - when a full suspension lift is used most of the manufactures will deny any warranty claims based on the modifications made. Just food for thought.
Agreed. I have the longest drop shank I could find for my weight distribution hitch and it's almost at the lowest point. I don't know how you could use a WHD or hitch up to a 5th wheel camper if you installed a suspension lift kit.
At the ford dealership I work at we have to report any suspension modification to ford and most of the time they will void the warrenty on the truck.
@@colin1528 Ford does not void the warranty on a lifted truck.
When I see a lifted 250 or 350 I think of how short the driver is.
I'm 5'7" If your under 6 foot you must lift the truck ATLEAST 6" minimun.
don't understand, why does a new truck need a leveling kit ?
Need? Nope, this is totally about want.
ok, but why is raising the front 2" desirable ? i'm tired of SUV's and considering an F250 Limited
The rear of these trucks is higher than the front from the factory. This is to compensate for a big load in the bed. To some they just want to have a level look. Ever heard of Cali Style? It's the opposite effect, lower in the rear than the front. Thats something I cannot wrap my head around. To each there own..
now i understand, thanks what's your opinion on the new 2018 F250 Limited ? i've always been a GM fan but the F250 is nicer
Sway bar work is always done when the suspension is sitting on the ground...not jacked up. Fail!
Worked just fine for us here skippy!
@@CaseysAutomotiveChantilly guarantee it binds and damages the sway bar link rubber joints skippy! But hey it's not your truck so why would you care.
Needs 37” tires
Joseph Foster yes it does. We do these for a dealership, they wanted 35’s....boo.
@@CaseysAutomotiveChantilly i think it looks great with 35s
U made me not want to do any upgrades on my f250 after u pulled off that dashboard. That part should of been left out .
MG G. It was easy! Don’t be afraid, that came apart and went back together way faster than the actual leveling kit.
Lol
Don’t need to, Forscan would’ve recalibrated the speedo and cost less than the programmer.
My mind is screaming "WHY"
what size are those tires? :)
denis chenier 35”
Toyo tired don't last worth a shit
Leveling kits are for dudes who squat to pee. No leveling kit no squat with loads.
Probably the worst lighting I've seen in a youtube video. Just imagine, having to use a flashlight in an HD video............ LoL.................
This video has moved me off the fence.......... I've decided not to install a leveling kit.
Mission accomplished.
Good video, lighting was sufficient. Job well done gentleman.
You've got to be a fucking idiot
ruclips.net/video/liJSPe6vMgI/видео.html This is why I called you a fucking stupid idiot.