Whew! I'm glad I bought a good one! I searched for an overview AFTER I bought it. Waiting for it to arrive. I wish I would have seen this video first, it wouldn't have taken me hours of research and anguish to arrive at my decision. EXCELLENT video. Thank you! :)
I love Gigabyte, I will always go with their motherboards and their GPUs, they tend to be on the more expensive side of hardware options here but I find it's well worth it, every component I've ever had by them has been super durable with zero issues. Highly recommend that anyone reading this, go with Gigabyte over the other options like Asus. Also, their new lineup of mid tier budget oriented gaming laptops look excellent. ryzen 5 series + rtx 3060 for under a grand!
My friend has one of these,. its an excellent board. Those high speed memory kits are quite difficult to get running at full speed on most boards. seems almost 'not ready' for market at this point.
Z790 Carbon was producing errors for me with stock XMP 7200cl34 - the Gigabyte had no problems. Also, the new "low latency" and "high bandwidth" options are insane - significant increases in performance and latency without changing the frequency or any timings, while being totally stable in Karhu and Y-Cruncher. The only problem is the coil whine, and I have to disable c-states in order for it to be manageable... so no single core boosts, which are mostly useless in real-world situations anyway, but I shouldn't have to be dealing with this for a $500 board.
My Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master died after two months in operation. Will not post. Contacted Gigabyte for support... so far crickets. The first machine I assembled was a 486 back in the day. I can't remember how many boards I have turned up over the years. Cannot remember where even one of those boards ever failed. The only reason I ever took a board out of service was when I was upgrading. They never failed.
Thats a heck of a board, eVGA level that one. ive had nothing but trouble with getting a few RMA's lately from ASUS in europe. will likely go Gigabyute next time.
Excellent review! I'm now subscribed to your channel. Mine arrives today, 5/25/23, NEWEGG. I believe you tested the ATX model. Mine is the eATX. I was hoping yours would be the same. Other than size, do you see any real difference between the two? You just put another nail in the ASUS coffin next to mine.
What a showcase board - but its a little out of my price bracket, i just dont need all that for my gaming systems. still, impressive work. one of the finest boards ive seen
Not sure if populating all M.2 slots (the PCIe 4.0 ones at least) will actually disable one of the S-ATA ports on this board (as mentioned at 2:23). As someone who owns this board and actually plans to populate all S-ATA and all PCI-E 4.0 M.2 slots, this would really be a kick in the teeth as this board already has less S-ATA ports (just 4 ports) than most Z790 boards. The manual does not mention anything about S-ATA ports being disabled with any M.2 configuration.
The wording on Gigabyte's product spec is slightly vague. One of the M.2. slots that is controlled by the chipset is described as 'PCIe 4.0 x4 & SATA Dual Mode' Leo
Thats how to make a high end board - people complaining about the price need to realise, these high end boards have always cost a fortune. its to do with the power delivery and the price of those in the design
I own two Auros high end Z Master boards and they were not this highly priced even two years ago. They are lovely boards and my go to brand and range. When I bought the two I own (Z390 and Z690) they were the tops and were a reasonable price. Prices now on these are starting to spiral upwards.
I have always gone for Auros boards and currently own two both Masters. They are my go to boards. I'm not paying almost £600 for one no matter how good they are and how superb mine have been.
@@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252 I have a Auros Z390 Master and an Auros Z690 Master. They as I say are my go to range as they are superb boards but prices are just getting a little too steep now like everything.
@@bobsmithson8592 I do love the Auros Master boards and own them, but yeah prices of mobos are starting to get out of hand. I will pay good money for a great board and always have done like all my components but these prices are starting to make me wince and think and look further afield these days.
I didn't hesitate to pay 500 for my Z790 Aorus Master after returning a 375 dollar Wifi edge ddr5 from MSI that was watered down. I love MSI but they didn't offer as much as this Master did so I gladly bought myself one as a Christmas present 🎁. I AM VERY HAPPY. It has everything fully updated and current more than any other 500 dollar board. It's worth it. And yes everything's price is getting out of hand not just the boards but nothing we can do the cheaper boards are in fact cheap with stripped down features. If I'm gonna build a board to last me 5 years It's gonna be jam packed like this Aorus Master. Glad I bought it, you would be too.
I bought an EVGA Classified Z690 just a few months before Z790 was coming out for 50%+ off. There may be some changes but it is still an amazing board. It will handle the new 13th Gen, maybe not quite as good but I can live with it. Spending over $600usd on a MB evey year or every other is just a little crazy in my view, no matter how nice a new MB is. This includes the Aorus Master Z790. Nice review as always!
@@johnerikson2443 EVGA does that a LOT $299 is usually more than I will pay for a MB but it retailed for awhile around $600! EVGA customer support is legendary!
Try setting the acoustic noise options to divide by 8. Disabling c-states also helps, though it won't allow for boosting depending on your OC (but all core usage is still the vast majority of workloads including gaming). The coil whine is mostly manageable for me now with these changes.
The only problem i have is that my system wigs out when i try to get the full potential of my 128gb ddr5 every time i try to get the full 6000mhz it just goes into a boot loop or it posts the crashes, i might just be doing things wrong but then again might not be ready for 128gb yet. This is my second aours master motherboard my first was the z690 and i am glad i got both very good mobos and will continue to get them when i upgrade.
Thats a lot of memory to be honest, have you tried loosening the timings a little bit? I think thats why ECC memory is adopted partially for higher counts like that. what board are you using? this gigabyte one?
I have a similar issue when trying to OC some 7200 32gb Hynix a. Very odd behavior, seems it fails to properly train the memory after being pushed, even below the rated speed . If you let the board without power a few hours it goes away. You can try loosening the timings or giving it a bit more voltage.
Doesn't the primary M.2 heat shield become a problem for installing a large RTX 4090....it looks like there would be clearance issues? All the best. Cheers.
Aorus have does some cracking boards but my Z790 Master has coil whine near the VRM is look to be quite a common issues with Aorus boards this time around.
They make good boards - I love my AMD board, was a toss up between ASUS and Gigabyte, but ASUS stiffed me on a faulty product a few years ago and will never buy them again
7:55 Hello! How could it happen that I had 91+ biscuits then it became 87+ I experimented with voltages when overclocking the memory. Processor degraded?
Is the m2a_cpu not the best slot for installing a nvme? Reading the manual it looks like the one you used is pci 5 but share lanes with the gpu…(unless of course you have a pci 5 nvme)
Sir , I have a question . What would be the very best Z790 I9 13Gen motherboard that I can buy ? I went the fastest , most power phases , best overclocking, coolest temperatures and most features . What would be the absolute best motherboard to build a very powerful gaming PC ? Thanks
gen 5 nvme slot shares bandwith with the x16 Gpu slot which is gen 5 as well (8lanes gpu,4 lanes nvme) if using a gen 4 nvme you should use the top slot of the ones under the cover which is gen 4 pcu conection,
Provided both Noctua and Gigabyte have respected the CPU keep-out area that is part of the ATX standard then sure, no problem (but feel free to check the Noctua spec) Leo
If it has to be DDR5 Z790, the the MSI Tomahawk though it is just a fraction over at £339 but overal very solid. The Gigabyte Auros Elite is also £329 but hate the sound setup as it does not have the full 5.1 outlets on the backplate. The MSI Pro-A is also good at £319. I am using the Z690 Strix-A for my 13700K as I got it on a cashback deal and saved a bit by reusing my low latency fast DDR4 ram though if new build, do DDR5.
@@vMaxHeadroom Thanks for the reply! I am constructing a new gaming build., centred around an Intel i5 13600K. I am thinking of using the ASUS PRIME Z790-P DDR4 board (as DDR5 remains more costly the performance gains seem slight).
@@t5kcannon1 This is a tough one as I think it is worth spending the bit extra on the MSI Z790-A as it has a stronger VRM 80amp as oppossed to 50amp power stages though if you are not going to overclock, it will not matter. The Asus Z790 Prime is good but Asus always seem to charge a bit more than the others for roughly the same. Bottom line the Prime will be okay but if you can stretch to the MSI Z790-A even better or go to the Asus TUF Z790 D4 Wifi ....
@Varinder Bains If I went DDR5, then what do think about the Asus Z790 Prime-a ddr5 board? Or, would it be better to go for the MSI Z790 Tomahawk ddr5?
Is it recommended to use the top gen 5 nvme slot for a gen 4 drive so as to use the heatsink (with a 990 pro) and a 4090? Or is the reduced 8x lanes on the gpu not worth the cooling?
I'm confused; Trying to buy a customised PC off PCSpecialists -- want to get 64GB of RAM... opted the Corsair's DDR5 Vengeance (6000MHz, 2x32GB), and I've been told it's compatible with this MB but not the ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero despite being the same specs relatively... what gives?
When assembling the computer, I noticed that the motherboard has problems with beeping, buzzing similar to coilwhine. I took a video of where this unpleasant sound originates, it is very annoying to the ears. The reason is at the control panel where there are plugs for usb, video output, plug for internet. I removed all the components from the motherboard Gigabyte Aorus master z790. But the annoying sound is there. Please help me, what should I do? I also replaced it with a power supply, but it doesn't help. The sound is heard from the sockets on the back side of the motherboard connectors. this sound is driving me nuts, coilwhine whining..what to do rma or?😦😦🤔 please help?
@@maulcs I tried everything. Nothing helped. I also switched off C states and changed the acoustic from 16/8 so I sent it back to the store, rma. What settings did you make to get rid of the coilwhine, acoustic 8 in? Did it help?
@@Mixman39 8 for both (16 didn't really help), and c-states disabled - most of the time it's a lot less noticeable now, it used to be quite loud at idle, really piercing my ears. I actually bought a Z790 Carbon as a replacement, but it couldn't get my 7200cl34 RAM entirely stable, and the "low latency" and "high bandwidth" options on the Master are pretty incredible with significant increases in performance and latency without changing any timings. So I decided to keep the Master and deal with the whine, because otherwise I wouldn't be getting the performance I wanted. I also moved my computer into a different position - it's not perfect, but that along with the above settings certainly helped to where it doesn't really bother me anymore.
My master came in the mail yesterday Amazon still buying parts not cheap I got Corsair h150i, Evga 3080ti,980 Samsung 2tb and 530 firecuda 2b Samsung for windows etc, firecuda for games etc gonna buy corsair dominator 32gb 6200
The CPU Biscuits feature is interesting. I have this motherboard and a 13900k and it reads 96 to 97.26 Biscuits. So looks like I might have a pretty good silicon quality chip. I've not tried to OC it yet but will do sometime.
Leo I have another con for you, and I think we should highlight more….. bifurcation of this configuration means we can’t exploit M.2 v5.0 and x16 PCIe GPU you have to pick.
You are quite correct and it is rather annoying - when I reviewed the video I thought I was hearing rain but no, seems to be a poor connection instead. Leo
Has anybody got any 32GBx2 ram kits working with this board? If so, what's the RAM model and bios version? I have tried everything for 2 months with no luck.
My fav motherboard ruined by how much audio jacks available this series. Yeah you can talk about fibre audio. but thats another whole cost you got to fork out. when its good surround and cheaper to run front speakers, rear speakers, sub and mid all on three ports. plus headphone and mic on two more. so thats 5 needed, then you can have another port for either a line in like an instrument, or it usually allows you to add another set of speakers, to make 7.1. Yeah you will likely lack spatiaal dolby digital down the 7.1, but when you run through Kodi or a supporting app you can get true surround sound movies, also games are true. Then if you really want the rest of your apps and music to run properly down all 7.1 speakers, just turn on your stereo mix on your headphones as default, turn dolby on, then listen to stereo mix down your speakers. Looks like the majority of motherboards for the 14th gen processors have cheaped out here, thanks for your review but defenately gonna give this series a miss
Can you comment on the rumour that the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, coming in January 2023, will be a staggering 30% Faster than the Intel Core i9-13900K, courtesy of it's ~200MB 3D Cache? If it's true, AMD is about to SMASH all the competition with a HUGE lead on the best gaming CPU in the world, won't it?
You are correct in principle however the real pain with M.2 has been the tiny screws that fight against the springing action of the SSD so this is genuinely a useful step forward Leo
the highest award for a single line in / out connection is unjustifiable (for the high price) Also the sound chip is not good. It wasn`t even mentioned in the "Cons" section.
That's a single cabled network connection - you also have WiFi. We are well aware that some products (many products?) either hit solidly or miss completely. Leo
The pcie slot layout is totally stupid. A board for maybe overclocking testbench duty at best. It’s a nice board but what’s a reasonable usecase? Sadly a waste of effort I my opinion.
The power consumption is not bad, it’s consumes a lot because it’s not limited so it will get the max performance it can. So if you limit it then you’ll be just as good as the others.
You shouldn't be just putting a 'pea-sized' amount of thermal compound on your CPU's. It has been proven in many tests that the flat-spread method yields better thermal results. Usually 4-5c cooler. Should be using TGrizzly Kryonaut paste (when not just test benching, but on the real build), and should also be putting on a Thermalright contact frame and reduce temps another 8c
@@casheighty8 Wrong, go read the Gamers Nexus review of the ThermalRight contact frame. You really should make sure you have your facts straight before you run around professing a statement like that. Why would a company continue to make a product that makes no difference? That literally makes no sense. Specifically the ThermalRight frame is easier to install than the ThermalGrizzly one and makes a 7-10c difference under load. Furthermore, the user comments in that review also state their anecdotal experience of how much it lowered their temps. I mean, the internet is full of reviews of contact frames and all of them show a difference. Lol
Whew! I'm glad I bought a good one! I searched for an overview AFTER I bought it. Waiting for it to arrive. I wish I would have seen this video first, it wouldn't have taken me hours of research and anguish to arrive at my decision. EXCELLENT video. Thank you! :)
I am shopping for a new board in 2023, this one is high on my list, and ive learned a lolt in this video leo. cheers.
Always liked the master gigabyte motherboard versions. I have the X570S master. It's amazing. Keep up the great work you guys and stay safe.
I agree I have the arous X570S master AX , but just bought the one in the review based on the quality of the 570
When your motherboard counts your biscuits. Wow such functionality. Much power. GigaBITE.
lol very good John. The force is strong within you
I think that's like the SP Score from Asus Board , just love IT. I order this Board last Week
Great seeing a Leo review over the Christmas break.
I really love Leo's closing remarks, as always :)
I love Gigabyte, I will always go with their motherboards and their GPUs, they tend to be on the more expensive side of hardware options here but I find it's well worth it, every component I've ever had by them has been super durable with zero issues. Highly recommend that anyone reading this, go with Gigabyte over the other options like Asus.
Also, their new lineup of mid tier budget oriented gaming laptops look excellent. ryzen 5 series + rtx 3060 for under a grand!
In the US the AORUS Master is $170 cheaper than the ASUS Maximus Hero. I like the Bios on the Hero more but not $170 more.
Gigabyte bios use to be awful but I guess they're getting better somewhat
I have an i9-13900KS with 84 biscuits... should I return it?
06:40 "The VRM is monumentally overspecified" -- that's exactly how I like it! Excellent review, and this is probably my favorite Z790 board!
The reinforced graphics card slot is a very good idea given the current concrete brick generation modern GPUs.
Not an exaggeration
I appreciate this feature since I have a GIGABYTE 4090. Makes a real difference. I still use a support stand to be on the safe side.
My friend has one of these,. its an excellent board. Those high speed memory kits are quite difficult to get running at full speed on most boards. seems almost 'not ready' for market at this point.
The board is only half the issue, the CPU's memory controller has to be able to run high speed memory first.
Z790 Carbon was producing errors for me with stock XMP 7200cl34 - the Gigabyte had no problems. Also, the new "low latency" and "high bandwidth" options are insane - significant increases in performance and latency without changing the frequency or any timings, while being totally stable in Karhu and Y-Cruncher. The only problem is the coil whine, and I have to disable c-states in order for it to be manageable... so no single core boosts, which are mostly useless in real-world situations anyway, but I shouldn't have to be dealing with this for a $500 board.
My Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master died after two months in operation. Will not post. Contacted Gigabyte for support... so far crickets.
The first machine I assembled was a 486 back in the day. I can't remember how many boards I have turned up over the years. Cannot remember where even one of those boards ever failed. The only reason I ever took a board out of service was when I was upgrading. They never failed.
Thats a heck of a board, eVGA level that one. ive had nothing but trouble with getting a few RMA's lately from ASUS in europe. will likely go Gigabyute next time.
You will face the worst RMA experience with Gigabyte in your life. 😅
Asus RMA is pants, they don't even speak to you directly. They tell you to contact the retailer. Horrible
@doors nothing beats Asus customer service, they are the worst. I have tried both and prefer Gigabyte even though they are not perfect themselves.
Excellent review! I'm now subscribed to your channel. Mine arrives today, 5/25/23, NEWEGG. I believe you tested the ATX model. Mine is the eATX. I was hoping yours would be the same. Other than size, do you see any real difference between the two? You just put another nail in the ASUS coffin next to mine.
What a showcase board - but its a little out of my price bracket, i just dont need all that for my gaming systems. still, impressive work. one of the finest boards ive seen
little out of price bracket, it is more expensive then ps5 or xbox series x, this is absurd.
buy used z690 master on ebay
Great board for DDR5 oc with lastest bios
Not sure if populating all M.2 slots (the PCIe 4.0 ones at least) will actually disable one of the S-ATA ports on this board (as mentioned at 2:23). As someone who owns this board and actually plans to populate all S-ATA and all PCI-E 4.0 M.2 slots, this would really be a kick in the teeth as this board already has less S-ATA ports (just 4 ports) than most Z790 boards. The manual does not mention anything about S-ATA ports being disabled with any M.2 configuration.
The wording on Gigabyte's product spec is slightly vague. One of the M.2. slots that is controlled by the chipset is described as 'PCIe 4.0 x4 & SATA Dual Mode'
Leo
@@KitGuruTech Most likely this just means the M.2 slot accepts both NVME and SATA type (if you are still rocking a NGFF SATA M.2).
Thats how to make a high end board - people complaining about the price need to realise, these high end boards have always cost a fortune. its to do with the power delivery and the price of those in the design
I own two Auros high end Z Master boards and they were not this highly priced even two years ago. They are lovely boards and my go to brand and range. When I bought the two I own (Z390 and Z690) they were the tops and were a reasonable price. Prices now on these are starting to spiral upwards.
Prices are made high intentionally. Look at the price of a fan... as If we NEED rgb, they used to be $4 lmao
I have always gone for Auros boards and currently own two both Masters. They are my go to boards. I'm not paying almost £600 for one no matter how good they are and how superb mine have been.
Prices keep getting higher dont they ! not sure where it will stop. global economy is bad as it is.
what boards do you own knotty?
@@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252 I have a Auros Z390 Master and an Auros Z690 Master. They as I say are my go to range as they are superb boards but prices are just getting a little too steep now like everything.
@@bobsmithson8592 I do love the Auros Master boards and own them, but yeah prices of mobos are starting to get out of hand. I will pay good money for a great board and always have done like all my components but these prices are starting to make me wince and think and look further afield these days.
I didn't hesitate to pay 500 for my Z790 Aorus Master after returning a 375 dollar Wifi edge ddr5 from MSI that was watered down. I love MSI but they didn't offer as much as this Master did so I gladly bought myself one as a Christmas present 🎁. I AM VERY HAPPY. It has everything fully updated and current more than any other 500 dollar board. It's worth it. And yes everything's price is getting out of hand not just the boards but nothing we can do the cheaper boards are in fact cheap with stripped down features. If I'm gonna build a board to last me 5 years It's gonna be jam packed like this Aorus Master. Glad I bought it, you would be too.
Biscuits rating finally a decent metric in computing.
I bought an EVGA Classified Z690 just a few months before Z790 was coming out for 50%+ off. There may be some changes but it is still an amazing board. It will handle the new 13th Gen, maybe not quite as good but I can live with it. Spending over $600usd on a MB evey year or every other is just a little crazy in my view, no matter how nice a new MB is. This includes the Aorus Master Z790. Nice review as always!
50 percent off. Holy smokes that’s some deal
@@johnerikson2443 EVGA does that a LOT $299 is usually more than I will pay for a MB but it retailed for awhile around $600! EVGA customer support is legendary!
This motherboard will support the new 14th gen Intel cpu ?
Very clean design, like it.
I'm experiencing pretty bad coil whine with mine at high charges of work with my 13900K...
Try setting the acoustic noise options to divide by 8. Disabling c-states also helps, though it won't allow for boosting depending on your OC (but all core usage is still the vast majority of workloads including gaming). The coil whine is mostly manageable for me now with these changes.
The only problem i have is that my system wigs out when i try to get the full potential of my 128gb ddr5 every time i try to get the full 6000mhz it just goes into a boot loop or it posts the crashes, i might just be doing things wrong but then again might not be ready for 128gb yet. This is my second aours master motherboard my first was the z690 and i am glad i got both very good mobos and will continue to get them when i upgrade.
Thats a lot of memory to be honest, have you tried loosening the timings a little bit? I think thats why ECC memory is adopted partially for higher counts like that. what board are you using? this gigabyte one?
@@harleylover9446 yes the aours master z790.
I have a similar issue when trying to OC some 7200 32gb Hynix a. Very odd behavior, seems it fails to properly train the memory after being pushed, even below the rated speed . If you let the board without power a few hours it goes away. You can try loosening the timings or giving it a bit more voltage.
Doesn't the primary M.2 heat shield become a problem for installing a large RTX 4090....it looks like there would be clearance issues?
All the best.
Cheers.
I’ve heard people complaining about the coil sound. Has it been fixed?
Aorus have does some cracking boards but my Z790 Master has coil whine near the VRM is look to be quite a common issues with Aorus boards this time around.
Me too
I’m thinking of buying it. Has it been fixed ?
What’s your Power supply?
Is it just me or is there some really nasty audio crackling from 5:37 onwards? Only seems to last a few minutes though.
me too
yeah looks like it was a render issue or something,. noticed it on leo's last video too.
It is rather annoying - when I reviewed the video I thought I was hearing rain but no, seems to be a poor connection instead.
Leo
Excellent review Leo - but that price, is staggering. At least it looks like they put a lot of high end power delivery components into it
They really do I’ve always used their master series of boards on amd/intel side and they have always been flawless!
*"Promises to count my biscuits. And that is something I have never heard before."*
🤣🤣🤣
Amazing amount of m.2 slots we are witnessing the end of sata.
What happened to Instant 6GHz during the gaming tests? Just quietly removed?
Did you have any coil wine with the Master?
I got gifted this Mobo. This is incredible !!!
I genuinely hate how expensive these boards are (any Z or X grade board) in New Zealand.
They are expensive everywhere. doubt it costs anymore than in the UK.
They make good boards - I love my AMD board, was a toss up between ASUS and Gigabyte, but ASUS stiffed me on a faulty product a few years ago and will never buy them again
I read quite a few people saying that. I never had an ASUS product fail recently so cant really comment. Are Gigabyte any better with support though?
What about ASUS GPUs?
Very well thought out motherboard just a shame it isn’t nvidia GPU in the test build.
7:55 Hello! How could it happen that I had 91+ biscuits then it became 87+ I experimented with voltages when overclocking the memory. Processor degraded?
Gigglebutt added the biscuits feature from the Tachyon, eh?
Is the m2a_cpu not the best slot for installing a nvme? Reading the manual it looks like the one you used is pci 5 but share lanes with the gpu…(unless of course you have a pci 5 nvme)
Will this fit in an icue 5000x corsair case?
Sir , I have a question . What would be the very best Z790 I9 13Gen motherboard that I can buy ? I went the fastest , most power phases , best overclocking, coolest temperatures and most features . What would be the absolute best motherboard to build a very powerful gaming PC ? Thanks
Are Intel biscuits the same as amd biscuits?
gen 5 nvme slot shares bandwith with the x16 Gpu slot which is gen 5 as well (8lanes gpu,4 lanes nvme) if using a gen 4 nvme you should use the top slot of the ones under the cover which is gen 4 pcu conection,
Can i manually turn off the on-board GPU?
Is it even possible to use a Noctua d15 on this board?
Provided both Noctua and Gigabyte have respected the CPU keep-out area that is part of the ATX standard then sure, no problem (but feel free to check the Noctua spec)
Leo
Can you do a video on the best settings in bios or overlook for z790 master with i9 13900k please
Very nice review. Thank you!
The board looks great, but costly.
Up to £300, which z790 board do you recommend?
If it has to be DDR5 Z790, the the MSI Tomahawk though it is just a fraction over at £339 but overal very solid. The Gigabyte Auros Elite is also £329 but hate the sound setup as it does not have the full 5.1 outlets on the backplate. The MSI Pro-A is also good at £319. I am using the Z690 Strix-A for my 13700K as I got it on a cashback deal and saved a bit by reusing my low latency fast DDR4 ram though if new build, do DDR5.
@@vMaxHeadroom Thanks for the reply!
I am constructing a new gaming build., centred around an Intel i5 13600K. I am thinking of using the ASUS PRIME Z790-P DDR4 board (as DDR5 remains more costly the performance gains seem slight).
@@t5kcannon1 This is a tough one as I think it is worth spending the bit extra on the MSI Z790-A as it has a stronger VRM 80amp as oppossed to 50amp power stages though if you are not going to overclock, it will not matter. The Asus Z790 Prime is good but Asus always seem to charge a bit more than the others for roughly the same. Bottom line the Prime will be okay but if you can stretch to the MSI Z790-A even better or go to the Asus TUF Z790 D4 Wifi ....
@Varinder Bains If I went DDR5, then what do think about the Asus Z790 Prime-a ddr5 board? Or, would it be better to go for the MSI Z790 Tomahawk ddr5?
Instant 6 gigs would show increase if you can cool it. R23 single proves that... Under-volt the CPU would help a lot...
i just bought this but i have not built the system yet - i hope its great but it was not the one i wanted to get. let's see how it does
Does this motherboard share bandwidth between the main x16 slot and the first gen 5 M.2. limit it to x8, that's what I want to know?
does ddr4 rams work with it?
Is it recommended to use the top gen 5 nvme slot for a gen 4 drive so as to use the heatsink (with a 990 pro) and a 4090? Or is the reduced 8x lanes on the gpu not worth the cooling?
Can I put 128 ram in it? Bc it says its only capable of 64gb
Did you notice any of the coil whine that seems to plague this board? I want to buy one but this is holding me back!
Just got one and I am not noticing any yet.
I'm confused;
Trying to buy a customised PC off PCSpecialists -- want to get 64GB of RAM... opted the Corsair's DDR5 Vengeance (6000MHz, 2x32GB), and I've been told it's compatible with this MB but not the ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero despite being the same specs relatively... what gives?
What about Intel Core i9 processor 14900K & Corsair - Vengeance RGB, DDR5, 32GB, 6400MHz CMH32GX5M2B6400C32 Compatibility with that motherboard?
When assembling the computer, I noticed that the motherboard has problems with beeping, buzzing similar to coilwhine. I took a video of where this unpleasant sound originates, it is very annoying to the ears. The reason is at the control panel where there are plugs for usb, video output, plug for internet.
I removed all the components from the motherboard Gigabyte Aorus master z790. But the annoying sound is there. Please help me, what should I do? I also replaced it with a power supply, but it doesn't help. The sound is heard from the sockets on the back side of the motherboard connectors.
this sound is driving me nuts, coilwhine whining..what to do rma or?😦😦🤔 please help?
Yeah, I have coil whine as well. Try disabling c-states and setting the acoustic noise settings to divide by 8 - it can help quite a bit.
@@maulcs I tried everything. Nothing helped. I also switched off C states and changed the acoustic from 16/8 so I sent it back to the store, rma. What settings did you make to get rid of the coilwhine, acoustic 8 in? Did it help?
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@@maulcs ruclips.net/video/UZ56GkkAYKc/видео.html coilwhine
@@Mixman39 8 for both (16 didn't really help), and c-states disabled - most of the time it's a lot less noticeable now, it used to be quite loud at idle, really piercing my ears. I actually bought a Z790 Carbon as a replacement, but it couldn't get my 7200cl34 RAM entirely stable, and the "low latency" and "high bandwidth" options on the Master are pretty incredible with significant increases in performance and latency without changing any timings. So I decided to keep the Master and deal with the whine, because otherwise I wouldn't be getting the performance I wanted. I also moved my computer into a different position - it's not perfect, but that along with the above settings certainly helped to where it doesn't really bother me anymore.
Leo, another cracking review - some audio issues in this video, for a few minutes. but wasnt too bad.
It was rather annoying - when I reviewed the video I thought I was hearing rain but no, seems to be a poor connection instead.
Leo
My master came in the mail yesterday Amazon still buying parts not cheap I got Corsair h150i, Evga 3080ti,980 Samsung 2tb and 530 firecuda 2b Samsung for windows etc, firecuda for games etc gonna buy corsair dominator 32gb 6200
The CPU Biscuits feature is interesting. I have this motherboard and a 13900k and it reads 96 to 97.26 Biscuits. So looks like I might have a pretty good silicon quality chip.
I've not tried to OC it yet but will do sometime.
wow.. i have 94.696 and i thought it was high lol
can this motherboard and Intel® Core™ i9-13900K Processor work display without graphic card?
So...... Asus Hero or Gigabyte master? The hero seems to consume a lot less power for almost the same results
Does it include some biscuits in the accesory box? XD Nice mobo, but ohhh my with the price!
Leo I have another con for you, and I think we should highlight more….. bifurcation of this configuration means we can’t exploit M.2 v5.0 and x16 PCIe GPU you have to pick.
A true tea drinking Brit should never have less than 90 Biscuits.
Only 3 weeks later and I managed to buy one for less than £530
There is lots of headroom in the VRM setup but it would be interesting to see how it performs in the real world being stressed at that level.
What if I prefer cookies?
Cookies are a type of biscuit in the UK.
good review as always from leo, but the audio issues in the middle were hard to deal with.
You are quite correct and it is rather annoying - when I reviewed the video I thought I was hearing rain but no, seems to be a poor connection instead.
Leo
Has anybody got any 32GBx2 ram kits working with this board? If so, what's the RAM model and bios version? I have tried everything for 2 months with no luck.
What have you tried? Are you using 32GBx2 or 32GBx4 (4 DIMMs)?
I have this board with 13900kf and with F11 bios i have 91.148 biscuits befor it was 89.something
I have a score of 89.161 with my i7 12700k and Aorus elite Z790 ax ddr4 rev1.0
Might be time for a new mic. Starts to get staticy around 5:36.
Seems to be a dodgy cable connection. Apologies for the annoyance.
I thought it was my iPhone 14 1TB fully paid with Apple care
My fav motherboard ruined by how much audio jacks available this series. Yeah you can talk about fibre audio. but thats another whole cost you got to fork out. when its good surround and cheaper to run front speakers, rear speakers, sub and mid all on three ports. plus headphone and mic on two more. so thats 5 needed, then you can have another port for either a line in like an instrument, or it usually allows you to add another set of speakers, to make 7.1. Yeah you will likely lack spatiaal dolby digital down the 7.1, but when you run through Kodi or a supporting app you can get true surround sound movies, also games are true. Then if you really want the rest of your apps and music to run properly down all 7.1 speakers, just turn on your stereo mix on your headphones as default, turn dolby on, then listen to stereo mix down your speakers.
Looks like the majority of motherboards for the 14th gen processors have cheaped out here, thanks for your review but defenately gonna give this series a miss
Здравствуйте! хороший обзор спасибо за обзор так держать:))++
Man, great board but dam dat price! 😮
i bought two so I could use them as bookends. My wife left me, so now im sleeping in the car.
Can you comment on the rumour that the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, coming in January 2023, will be a staggering 30% Faster than the Intel Core i9-13900K, courtesy of it's ~200MB 3D Cache? If it's true, AMD is about to SMASH all the competition with a HUGE lead on the best gaming CPU in the world, won't it?
I dont think so
hey sir can you tell me does this mother board support cpu such as amd like ryzen 7 5800x and higher or not.Please write back thank you.
That is awesome stuff, but it has probably to narrow audience.
Yep, 2nd ethernet for the nas would have been good.......
699$ for .... 4% more performances just like brides
got 94.696 biscuits ..yihaaa xD
Tool free M.2!*
* Tool free M.2 slots require a Tool to access.
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You are correct in principle however the real pain with M.2 has been the tiny screws that fight against the springing action of the SSD so this is genuinely a useful step forward
Leo
600 quid for a motherboard without any built in thunderbolt or usb4, lol
cracker looking board that !
the highest award for a single line in / out connection is unjustifiable (for the high price) Also the sound chip is not good. It wasn`t even mentioned in the "Cons" section.
That's a single cabled network connection - you also have WiFi. We are well aware that some products (many products?) either hit solidly or miss completely.
Leo
@@KitGuruTech I only meant the audio section, the older Master Boards had better sound chip, 5.1 audio and a DAC at a much better price.
The pcie slot layout is totally stupid. A board for maybe overclocking testbench duty at best. It’s a nice board but what’s a reasonable usecase? Sadly a waste of effort I my opinion.
How so? Even with a huge 4090 I can still access the bottom two slots, unlike the Z790 Carbon or Strix-E for instance.
has no thunderbolt ports..........not good
It's a great board, but the power consumption of the 13900K is just plain stupid. Plain stupid. I'll pass.
The power consumption is not bad, it’s consumes a lot because it’s not limited so it will get the max performance it can. So if you limit it then you’ll be just as good as the others.
Well I get better performance with edge z690 lol 42600 CR23 13900k ddr4 4300 cl15
How did you get into bios?
You shouldn't be just putting a 'pea-sized' amount of thermal compound on your CPU's. It has been proven in many tests that the flat-spread method yields better thermal results. Usually 4-5c cooler. Should be using TGrizzly Kryonaut paste (when not just test benching, but on the real build), and should also be putting on a Thermalright contact frame and reduce temps another 8c
That contact frame makes zero difference with 12 and 13 gen
@@casheighty8 Wrong, go read the Gamers Nexus review of the ThermalRight contact frame. You really should make sure you have your facts straight before you run around professing a statement like that. Why would a company continue to make a product that makes no difference? That literally makes no sense. Specifically the ThermalRight frame is easier to install than the ThermalGrizzly one and makes a 7-10c difference under load. Furthermore, the user comments in that review also state their anecdotal experience of how much it lowered their temps.
I mean, the internet is full of reviews of contact frames and all of them show a difference. Lol
tall heatsink on first m.2 is very dumb and useless, even more it can interfere