How The Chiefs Landed Patrick Mahomes
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- A short story on how the Kansas City Chiefs made the decision to trade up and select QB Patrick Mahomes when they already had Alex Smith.
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The Bills better be glad Josh Allen turned out as good as he did otherwise they'd never hear the end of letting the Chiefs move up to take Mahomes. They'd get it worse than the Bears for picking Trubisky.
It's more than that.
Terry Pegula wanted Mahomes. It was Sean McDermott (Beane wasn't there yet, Doug Whaley was fired the day after the 2017 draft finished) who decided to make the trade for Tre White, Dion Dawkins and what turned into Tremaine Edmunds.
McDermott bet his entire career on that draft.
Allen was a year after.
And with all that Mahomes and Allen talk how many Super Bowl wins between them? ONE, and in that one win the QB was terrible.
@@Jakery1057 you’re talking about two guys that, some could argue, haven’t even reached the prime of their careers. Why are you so surprised they only have one between the two of them when there are hall of fame qbs who have zero
@@Jakery1057 Had Chiefs not had the Bills ransacked their best OL to the injured list in the AFCCG they would have had a chance against the Bucs. Mahomes was running for his life in that game, that's not a mark against his talent.
I remember as a chiefs fan watching that 2017 draft and literally saying to a coworker later, “why did we draft a QB? we already have Alex Smith.”
So Glad to be wrong
Dorsey gets the credit for drafting Mahomes, but it was Veach who was all in on him and his history with Reid was enough to put Mahomes on KC's board and incentivize the strategy to move up to get him. GM's get the credit, but it is a collaborative effort between coaches, their pro scouts and the front office (and all too often clueless owners). That said, witout a doubt, this is a crucial draft for Veach and the Chiefs - select right, and they are stocked up for the next five years while maintaining a viable cap.
@@trent7352 And can cement it with this next draft. They have a lot of picks.
@@csb78nm im a barber, and 1 of my clients played college ball with Veach in Tennessee. After hearing some stories, and 2 super bowl Ws later, I have complete faith in Veach.
Also after seeing Karlaftis, Moore, Pacheco, and even getting Toney, I have high hopes for this draft
@@trent7352 The cheifs rookies wasn’t good none of them made the rookie team or had any impressive stats
3 Super Wins and 3 Super Bowl MVPs later.
The best is yet to come!
And just like that, the Kansas City Chiefs ended up, drafting the greatest player in franchise history.
NFL History ....
More like greatest player in league history bro
You gotta understand how perfect the situation was for the Chiefs and Mahomes. He was raw potential. He needed an incubation year. The Chiefs had the best situation and staff to develop him into a superstar. In hindsight, if any other team wanted a QB they should of taken Deshaun Watson, only the Chiefs were right for Mahomes
Mahomes is pretty damn talented, I think he would have been successful in a lot of situations. The Chiefs definitely developed him well tho
Dam... glad the Chiefs didn't pick a screw up like Watson!
Okay don’t act like he wouldn’t be successful elsewhere. Stop it.
As a Titan fan, I'm hoping for the same for Malik. That's a lot to hope for, but hope is all I've ever had.
Mahomes would have 2x Super Bowl rings if he played his rookie year. Put money on it.
2 super bowls later. What a trade that was that night.
3 Super Bowls later...2 Super Bowl MVP's later though! :)
@@FSMWorshiper more like 3 afc titles and 2 super bowl titles later
4 super bowls later...
@@RuskiVodkaaaa 3 super bowls 4 afc titles 3 super bowl mvps later.
Three Super Bowls later 🎉 and with a drive for the ages
GMs almost universally enjoyed watching Mahomes film and marveled at his talent, but none of them had the balls to take a risk on him. And very few GMs and coaching staffs had the trust of their ownership and fanbase, AND still needed a QB.
It wasn't balls that were needed since he was rated as the #3 best QB in the draft but instead it's the desire to get him otherwise I imagine someone would have selected him in the 1st round. The main risk was wasting your 1st round pick on a QB, especially with the Chief's past history in drafting QB's.
No during this time, there was much hesitation about selecting a blk qb. Particularly one that was seen as a dual threat, improviser, scrambler, or who made plays outside the pocket. It seems crazy today because those are traits that rams now LOOK for in a qb. But it was the success of hurts, Watson, Lamar, mahomes etc that made that happen.
Setting the players aside for a moment. The Kansas City Chiefs, from the coaches all the way up to the owner are stacked. It's a room full of scientists. It's no wonder they're working on their 7th AFC West title, and 5th consecutive AFC Championship Game appearance. The entire organization is flippin STACKED!
*Now working on their 8th AFC West title, 6th AFC CG, and 2nd straight SB.
@@loganleroy8622and they got it 😅
2:39 Veach described Mahomes as "the greatest player [he'd] ever seen." Not just best college player.
Leader ✅
Clutch ✅
Intelligent ✅
Coachable ✅
Right Balance between Confident and Humble ✅
Great Arm ✅
Great Mobility ✅
Likeable ✅
Tom Brady might be better at Pre-Snap but in my opinion Patrick is the most skilled player I've ever seen.
But to have success over 20 years like Brady did so many things have to go right 🙈 You just have to take each year as it could be your Last.
At the end we will see who is on top.
Either way: Greatest Draft Choice the Chiefs ever did 👍
And the rest is history chiefs kingdom 💯
Mahomes was the perfect player put in the perfect situation. I highly doubt he would be what he is today if he had gone with the bear or another team. Thank god Veach saw special stuff in Mahomes.
The bills would of ruined him they would of made him play right away and he wouldn’t be Patrick
Mahomes this is coming from a bills fan sitting a year behind a veteran was really good for him
If the chiefs had not got him he’d be a saint and Payton would still be there
I highly doubt that you are correct.
Wrong. He was one of the most talented QBs in college history able to throw DARTS to the opposite side of the field when running in opposite direction. As long as he had receivers to get open, he would ALWAYS be successful. That’s like saying Tom Brady wouldn’t be who he is today without the patriots. He would still be great. If you give a good qb competent receivers and a line that can at least keep them somewhat clean, they will be successful
_. . . and the rest is HIStory ! ! !_
The QB position above all others comes down to interviews.
You need to see who's got the desire to grind the film room - Mahomes did, Deshaun didn't.
Who has grit?
Who have unquenchable thirst to improve?
Capacity to learn?
Can't get that on film.
Seems to me that Andy "leaked" the playbook to Mahomes before their meeting and Mahomes turned up knowing all the answers to the test. That probably sealed the deal.
The collaborative effort that made the Mahomes factor moved to the Chiefs and that was the best thing for them.
This dude was already a confirmed great pick after winning first Super Bowl.
Never did I think he would be a 3 time Super Bowl champ. Crazy.
As a chiefs fan and in college I remember watching this pick with my roommates at a Bdubs. My boy was a Seahawks fan still feeling relevant in the legion of boom era. He said not picking Watson doomed our franchise for the foreseeable future. I often wonder what he’s up to these days.
The year he sat he was the practice squad qb. He had to practice against Derrick Johnson tamba hali, Justin Houston, Eric berry and Marcus Peter's. He said thans to some of them at the press conference when they traded aways Smith
The list of bad teams that passed him up shall haunt them for eternity.
Indeed😂😂
I would have to add Matt Nagy knew and believed in mahomes as well.
This was just destiny at its finest. No one not even Veach saw this coming from Mahomes but boy I'm sure everyone is over the moon that they got him.
Yes veach did lmao. He said mahomes was best player he’d ever seen. He knew if he surrounded pat with just enough, they’d do things no one else has done before….he was right
@@bigde131He knew he was special but no way he saw 3 out 4 Superbowls in 6 years.
@@spomusmo2349 he didn’t get to the Super Bowl by himself lmaoo. Veach knew mahomes would be this good. What you all should be saying is veach didn’t think he’d put a Super Bowl TEAM around pat for this long. Anyone with half a brain knew pat would be a stud. He was throwing 50 yards darts across the middle of the field running the opposite direction 💀. Not exactly rocket science
I cannot conceive the amount of anxiety coach Reid and, maybe even more so, Brett Veach had to endure from the beginning of the draft up untill they had the pick
I remember all the doubters of Mahomes at the time, my YT comment history is filled to the brim of getting the best of all of them. The words they kept saying was BUST. LOL.
Lol and Five years later Mahomes already a first ballot HOFer. Lol I wish some of these "pro journalist" would just keep that same hater energy they started with.
Or a project qb
@@maryirving8418😂😂😂 dumb words used by dumb people. Now Mahomes and the Chiefs have got the best of them
Alex Smith was also in his mid 30s so it wasn’t a shock the Chiefs were going for a guy when they wanted it
And to think, people doubted this pick… 😜
The difference between the Bears trading up to draft Trubisky and the Chiefs trading up to draft Mahomes: knowledge of personnel, talent scouting, player development, coaching, play calling, expertise, professionalism, etc
At some point I'm fairly certain a Bears exec made the argument that Trubisky's name "just sounds like a solid Polish Chicago name".
Not really. Ryan Pace Bears GM at the time compared Mitchell Trubisky to Drew Brees stating “we will not settle with mediocrity here”. He loooves Trubisky and was worried the 49ers would draft him so he traded up
That wouldn't be out-of-place among some actual confirmed stories, like that Bears execs were impressed that Trubisky was driving a '97 Toyota Camry that used to be his grandma's when they met with him in college. "Just a down-to-Earth, humble, blue-collar guy" stuff.
Thanks Veach, Chiefs kingdom is eternally grateful! You are the man baby!!!! 🎉
I'll never forget the Chiefs drafting Mahomes and every Chiefs fan saying how stupid Dorsey and Reid was, calling the pick a bust. I remember seeing comments saying to fire them both. Wild.
Bs no one said that
@Orange I definitely wasn’t one of them. I didn’t know much about him, but I know Andy & Dorsey wouldn’t make that kind of move unless they felt pretty sure about the kid. First thing I did was to look at his film & I couldn’t have been more excited after that. In fact, every time I watch a Chiefs game with my dad, he always mentions how I was talking about how great Mahomes was gonna be, before he’d even thrown a pass in the 2017 preseason.
Literally no Chiefs fan said that stop lying.
When he means every chiefs fan he’s speaking for himself and his dad, 2 people don’t represent an entire fanbase S Whatever
A while back, I was reading a book on the Pittsburgh Steelers and how they built the team they had in the 70's. Fans were calling for Chuck Noll's head in the 1969 draft, because he picked a defensive end from a school most people had never heard of (Mean Joe Greene) instead of Notre Dame QB Terry Hanratty, who they got anyway in the second round.
It’s crazy how much the situation matters. We would not be talking about Mahomes the same way if the bears took him over Trubisky
Or maybe the Bears could have won two more super bowls with Mahomes? We never will know.
@@turboshelby8322 I agree talent is talent.
no other sport can have bigger swings in fortunes than the NFL
How do you know this?
Bro wit that 2018 defense mahomes would’ve won at least a damn playoff game unlike trubisky
Mahomes is the greatest thing that happened to the Chiefs and the Kansas City.
Chiefs have been in the bottom for decades before Mahomes arrived.
So you just going to ignore why the Cheifs wanted the 10th pick instead of pick 11-26? Everyone knows the Saints were going to take him at #11 which means he wasn't a secret to Sean Payton...
And 2. Superbowls latr. Legend in the maken
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THANK Y'ALL FOR TAKING Patrick MaHomes
Classic Chiefs, screwing over the Bills literally, from the start. Played like a damn fiddle!
“Pick 27 is not really a good place to get a quarterback” Malik Willis: am I a joke to you?
Well, this year's draft was seen as a weak QB class.
i mean they got tredavious white
Lol this aged like milk.
Whose malik willis
Malik what
I’ll never forgive the giants owners for laughing at McAdoo and firing him for trying to draft him and let Eli go 🤦🏽♂️
Wow I never realized that the chiefs traded with the bills to get Pat😂😂
TT Mahomes looked athletic af
Exactly... he ran the ball more at Texas Tech. Most folk don't realize that. I watched him play K-State twice & he looked so athletic as a runner. I knew he was going to be good, but Andy took him to another level.
Funny that the Bills created their Boogie-man
I was at that game. So depressed freezing in 10 degree weather
Crucial pick especially after this season (2022/23) too😁🔥
Woke up to an upload from the 🐐!!! Always hyped for the videos man
Good luck to this Patrick Mahomes guy
Thank you universe!
Andy Reid said it was the interview that sold him. He said Mahomes had a better understanding of the position then most QB. He didn't bring any baggage or bad habits. And he said Mahomes listen to him. The rest they could teach him.
Never mind Mahomes learned about the work ethic from Smith. If you wanted to win...And Mahomes put in the time to learn all he could in his first year..
Very good they allowed him time to develop
The Bears choked then the Chiefs capatilized. The End.
GREAT CHANNEL!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!😁
As a Saints fan, it hurts to know how close the Saints came to getting Mahomes. One pick away and the Chiefs swoop in. Damn. 😋
I was so mad when they picked Mahomes over Watson. So freaking mad. I knew no Big 12 qb would ever make it in the nfl. Boy was I WRONG 😂. I’m sorry Patrick.
"Sky-high potential"....................That would get my attention.
Great video, love the outro music
Other then the Patriots drafting Brady. This has to be the biggest draft steal in the century.
If KC didn't trade up to draft Mahomes at 10, the Saints would have taken him at 11 and the Saints would have the 2 extra Super Bowls and we would still be talking about Andy Reid being an over rated HC because he can't win a Super Bowl, while Sean Peyton would be talked about along with Chuck Knoll, Tom Landry, Vince Lombardi, etc..
Who know's anything is possible. It wasn't like Brees was some scrub though. He's a first ballot hall of famer and Payton could only win it once. Reid can make any QB look good/great. No doubt he's top two offensive mind of all time. I can't give him top because the west coast offense was created by Bill Walsh.
@@Jakery1057 Brees was awesome, but at the end of his career. Sean Payton already said publicly that he would have taken Mahomes and had that discussion with Drew Brees.
BTW, I love your handle. If there was ever a time to split an Oscar for best actor, it would be that movie. I am assuming your handle comes from "They call me Mr Tibbs!"
...the rest is history
We have a video about the 49ers having two chances to select Patrick Mahomes. Imagine Kyle Shanahan with Pat?! Insane!
Thank god that didn’t happen, the NFL would’ve been like the 50’s browns
sean payton has since said if the chiefs didnt take him the saints would have
They only traded up because the cardinals were going to draft him at 11
I don't watch college football all that much but who in there right mind would have mitch tribisky ahead od DeShawn Watson in rankings
It's college dude there were people who would look you dead in the face and try and tell you that Ryan Leaf was better than Peyton Manning.
Perhaps it was based on some very... "surface-level" differences between those two QBs.
Great video, but not gonna lie man, you need to fix the volume on that beep at the end. It was mixed much louder than the rest of the video and completely scared the crap out of me.
Watch the recent two vids and check I think I fixed it
2time champ let’s go
All credit for mahomes goes to Matt Nagy. He gave mahomes a cheat sheet 🤣🤣🤣
2:33 If you’re talking about all of Reid’s staff in Philly that’s not true. Doug Pederson was his QB coach in Philly and he went with Reid to KC in 2013 where he made Pederson the OC.
Blessing from the Gods
Also helps that Mahomes was given the plays they were going to grill him on in advance by Nagy and Mahomes told the Chiefs that they had to be in the top 12 because other teams said they were going to draft him if he was available
while getting the plays ahead def helps, sean payton also sent him an install and grilled him and said he was the best college prospect he ever saw and interviewed. also this video was made long before mahomes revealed that info on the podcast
@@medmuse_ Didn't see the date, I was just adding that Nagy deserves some credit too and Mahomes wanted to come to KC leaking the info on other teams that planned to take him. Veach is definitely the one that started it all though. I'm just happy he's here and hope we see more MVPs and more Super Bowl rings.
Ryan Pace didn’t even look at Patrick M. For one second, the worst GM in the history of football.
Crazy it took 40 years for the chiefs to win an nfl championship and this guy to do it!
It actually took 50
@@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr you are right but they did win the final afl championship
this aged well. CHIEFS 2nd SB
Aged even better
@@DaggerSandwich yes sir!
Wait, Trubisky was the #1 QB prospect? I remember everyone criticizing that pick as it happened
and the rest is history !!!
I wonder, and am mostly skeptical if the chiefs organization really saw mahomes panning out as good as he has.. im sure the saw something in him but did they REALLY think he would be this good? I'm a life long chiefs fan and I truly love the Reid Era and how it has all come together I just have my doubts that ANYONE really expected the level of play/competitiveness that we got.. personally I think it was a perfect storm of personel, coaching, freedom to experiment (due to reids success and where we were as an organization before he came)and a true testament to what can happen for a qb given the right environment. so many far better talents have fallen short it seems because of bad team management, cap limits player development, personel, expectations to start right away and impatientence to allow the development..rg3, Vince Young, Stafford, trubisky and many more never really got the right situations and were forced into bad careers. I'm glad we had the time and ability to give mahomes a fighting chance and I think it has made the difference. It just goes to show the product on the field is a direct result of the work/planning that goes on in the head offices
they saw him better than alex smith and that's really all that mattered
he becoming mvp etc. is a lot more than they wanted and expected im sure
but i bet reid knew mahomes would be the one to win him a ring as head coach finally
Of course they didn't see him panning out to be THIS good. If they had, they would've traded their entire draft to skip ahead of the Bears (just to be safe). But they saw him as being good enough to trade the next years first rounder for him too. Nobody could've envisioned Mahomes having the greatest start to a career for any QB in NFL history. But that doesn't take away from the Chiefs assessment that he was their guy and worth trading up for.
Dude they gave up a lot for him so I’d say they knew he’d be good and the had Alex smith who had just won MVP IM NOT A CHEIFS BUT YOUR A CLOWN… they gave up a lot for mahomes when they already had a QB
Who is drafted and everybody says that team is now winning super bowls? They were not forced into bad situations. Stafford played on bad teams but he still had a good career.
Good vid
And that outro track 🔥🔥🔥😮💨
Short answer: they drafted him.
Yes
it was destiny since Pat was born. he was always meant to be in Kansas City w Andy.
It's ironic that the Bills let the Chiefs move up to get Mahomes and now he is the reason the Bills lose in the playoffs lol
“Suffered the same fate” then lists two different fates
so basically the trade was patrick for josh allen and tredavious white
Bills used the 2018 Kansas City first rounder on Tremaine Edmunds, it was somewhere in the middle of the round
I fully expected stuttering 😂
I gotta edit it man
I'm saying this The Chiefs should be thanking the Broncos for trading up in the 2016 NFL draft and selecting Paxton Lynch because if the Chiefs were able to draft Lynch then they wouldn't have to trade up to draft Mahomes but they wouldn't trade down in the 2016 draft and draft Chris Jones
Get open, if not run. i got the gear fuck my ankle. Please dont ban me but that’s what he did.
HOPE IT WORKS OUT!
3 Super Bowls later... the rest was history...
Everybody missed the real reason. Sean Payton kept running his mouth about how amazing and special mahomes is so the chiefs took him. Im a saints fan, I know better than anyone
Ok
I wanted to talk about Sean Payton's want for Mahomes, but I did want to keep this video short and sweet. Maybe I'll do an extended version with more info in next years draft cycle
@@stutteringsports5853 i see bro, its all good. As a saints fan that thoroughly pissed me off😂
Veach had been pounding the table for Mahomes for a couple years.
😅😅 Right, we drafted him because we trusted your coach over our own talent scout who got promoted to GM after making the decision to get Mahomes. . . That's the dumbest shit I ever heard 😭
That was the start of Veach's Chiefs.
Bills, Bengals and Chargers eventually got their superstar QBs (Allen, Burrow and Herbert). Pathetic Browns, of course, overpaid for their massage king (who sucked last year), Jags eventually got their guy with Lawrence. Niners failed miserably with Lance but got lucky with Purdy--and would be smart to lure Tom Brady for 2 years. Titans made the mistake of Corey Davis and still don't have a superstar qb. And the Bears finally got their guy who should become a superstar in Justin Fields. So it all worked out for the most part for the teams who missed out on Mahomes (except for the pathetic Browns--and the Bears need to build around Fields)
That 2016 loss to the Steelers still hurts. How tf do you score more touchdowns while a team scores nothing but field goals and lose?? SMH
So did the 2017 playoff loss to Tennessee. Mariota threw a Touchdown to himself...
You lose like that by being the pre 2018 Chiefs, that's how. That garbage timeframe from 1994 to 2017 makes the last 4 years so much sweeter to me. That 93' playoff run is what got me interested in football. My dad was a Chiefs fan, so I always was too, but watching Montana beat the Oilers is what really got me invested in it. I was so let down when they lost to the Bills the next week.
White qbs get the benefit of the doubt sometimes
@@lukew1383 Hell, even current Chiefs are still capable of finding absurd ways to lose a game here and there. It’s almost reassuring at this point. Wouldn’t be Chiefs football without something stupid happening.
@@LetMeHaveADamnHandle I guess that's true, and last year's Arrowhead Invitational proves that. But with an 11-3 playoff record in the Mahomes era, I can handle those 2 freak losses in the 2020 and 2021 seasons ( I am willing to accept the 2019 season loss as a well fought game, even though we lost the coin flip in OT before the rule change, lined up offsides on a game sealing play, and committed the most ridiculous "roughing the passer" call in NFL history. We cant complain about these things then tell others to shut up about them later.)
That’s a griselda beat fasho
Yeaaaaa it’s George Bondo, off Pray for Paris
I want to know more about Reid "grilling" Mahomes
Sean payton would have selected pm with the next pick if kc didnt trade with Buffalo. Reid knew it.
Chiefs kingdom this is a little message to the organization. I was in the army for 21 years. I still remember what my drill sergeant. I do not want to hear excuses. I want to see results bottom line for the chief organization. At this rate, we will not make the playoffs or the Super Bowl.🤔😒
L fucking take
I love the chiefs
That is not how the word "persist" works...
The Chiefs would not have drafted Mahomes if they did not beat the undefeated Packers a few years before
Fabuloso !!
Valid video
Really..... LOL all who Missed...
The bears aint winning one until at least 109 years are up.