Well, when I had a new boiler last year in the garage, the gas engineer ( reputable a registered) ran the condensate pipe inside the garage and out into a rain pipe that actually goes into a soak away in the garden somewhere . A good way away put in by the builder 45 years ago. Watching your stuff, which is fascinating, makes me wonder if anyone , apart from you, does anything right?
Brillian video Derek. Watching most condensate videos, there's always a drain available. Your video demonstrates the hurdles involved installing a dedicated condensate soakaway, thanks for filming it. The effort of trying to install a dedicated hopper in the ground with it being so close to the foundation, there's probably too much to bust out to get that in and ultimately not worth it because the condensate is the only thing going into it. That and the fact that the electric is so close to the soil pipe you wouldn't really have room to fit the elbow. Does make you wonder how that slice ended up in the soil pipe doesn't it? Some Araldite should make short work of that, being as it's your own home I'd have thought that'd be ok. Thanks for the video.
Can I ask. I have re connected onto a condense pipe that goes into a fitting in the side of a washing machine stand pipe. I’ve been told you can’t do this on a Worcester combi. I’ve never been told that before. Any idea why. Thanks
@@tomkatgastraining he said it can’t be done on a Worcester combi boiler. Really odd. Thanks for your reply. There’s probably only about 10.000 that need altering 😂
How often, should you check the soakaway? I have only ever fitted one, and wondered how you would check the limestone chippings and replace if necessary. I over came this by installing it a using by using manhole riser rings with a lid on top.
Slip couplers on the split soil if theres room? I've seen some flexi rubber ones with jubilee clips that look easier to fit in a trench. If not what about filling the cut with gripfill ? During the first lockdown I was doing a emergency boiler change and had to dig a soakaway as replacing SE: Mains water in to kitchen on the other side of the house, power cables in overhead, no drains that side of house. Safe to dig then: WRONG! Dug down 2 foot with a Iron bar and posthole tongs, and found the 25mmm blue mdpe main smack in the middle of the hole!, luckily just missed a strike with the pointed digging bar, what are the odds on landing straight on that in a large garden..........
love real situations, dig hole find stuff in the way, drill hole and drill too long, check inside and find you just missed a cable. wouldnt it be easier to get an office job.
I used to work for Drain doctor amd if someone bought a house with a collapsed drain, you could get it replaced and charge the bill to the old home owner for the damage they left behind. Buying a house includes everything, which includes the drains. I dont know your situation but give them a call and see what they say.
You uncovered a drain pipe which can be tapped into for the condensate. Seems rather odd that you went to hassle of a soak away. Plus the drain pipe needed repairing. Far better to use a drain pipe if you can. Very strange decisions.
@@tomkatgastraining Err what regulation covers that then? Boiler condensate can go into any drainage system including rain water, sewage, soak away and septic tank. A septic tank is after all a form of soak away.... Yes, condensate is acidic but it is lost in the the volume of other domestic waste discharge from house. A typical house will discharge approx 750 litres of waste water per day, and a condensing boiler when operating will product about 2 litres per hour. Therefore the condensate is somewhat lost in the wash.
@@XX-ww8lh mate any decent plumber or gas engineer knows that if you install condensate into a septic tank it attacks the bacteria leading to smells and the tank being pumped out more often causing more cost to the customer.
@@tomkatgastraining utter tosh if you consider how diluted the condensate is in the crap from the house each day. It won't make a blind bit of difference. Besides, there are no controls over what gets thrown down the sink or toilet.
While you're at it, drop the drain to its correct depth. Perhaps it froze and split being so shallow? Wonder what other dodgy workmanship this house is going to uncover? It'll keep your channel busy.
Pain in the arse. Condensing boilers. Let’s save the planet and use a condensing boiler. But look how much extra work and materials are needed to do the job. Waste of time and money. Shame someone can’t design a boiler that condenses through the flue
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I’m glad this wasn’t a 45 minute job in my diary. Sounds like the classic Friday afternoon job.. good work and channel 👍
Well, when I had a new boiler last year in the garage, the gas engineer ( reputable a registered) ran the condensate pipe inside the garage and out into a rain pipe that actually goes into a soak away in the garden somewhere . A good way away put in by the builder 45 years ago. Watching your stuff, which is fascinating, makes me wonder if anyone , apart from you, does anything right?
Does the soak away literally just soak away or does it need tied in to the. Drain
Brillian video Derek. Watching most condensate videos, there's always a drain available. Your video demonstrates the hurdles involved installing a dedicated condensate soakaway, thanks for filming it. The effort of trying to install a dedicated hopper in the ground with it being so close to the foundation, there's probably too much to bust out to get that in and ultimately not worth it because the condensate is the only thing going into it. That and the fact that the electric is so close to the soil pipe you wouldn't really have room to fit the elbow. Does make you wonder how that slice ended up in the soil pipe doesn't it? Some Araldite should make short work of that, being as it's your own home I'd have thought that'd be ok. Thanks for the video.
Excellent Dez, the damaged section of soilstack will have to be cut out and repaired with a couple of slip couplings. 👍
Did you put limestone chippings in the soak away.
Yes I did
I’ve been to loads of these been fitted and actually cut in half because they are so long. And they can’t be bothered to dig deep enough
Can I ask. I have re connected onto a condense pipe that goes into a fitting in the side of a washing machine stand pipe. I’ve been told you can’t do this on a Worcester combi. I’ve never been told that before. Any idea why. Thanks
@@peterreid4567 the only reason I can think of is the pipe being blocked by the washing powder which I have come across
@@tomkatgastraining he said it can’t be done on a Worcester combi boiler. Really odd. Thanks for your reply. There’s probably only about 10.000 that need altering 😂
How often, should you check the soakaway?
I have only ever fitted one, and wondered how you would check the limestone chippings and replace if necessary. I over came this by installing it a using by using manhole riser rings with a lid on top.
Every year with the service
Nicely done. Are you going to incorporate an air break somewhere? I've seen condensate soakaways back up in freezing weather.
Yes but not by choice you will see from the install video 😁
Just a thought ,you could of just put a boss on that drain pipe
Slip couplers on the split soil if theres room? I've seen some flexi rubber ones with jubilee clips that look easier to fit in a trench. If not what about filling the cut with gripfill ?
During the first lockdown I was doing a emergency boiler change and had to dig a soakaway as replacing SE: Mains water in to kitchen on the other side of the house, power cables in overhead, no drains that side of house.
Safe to dig then: WRONG! Dug down 2 foot with a Iron bar and posthole tongs, and found the 25mmm blue mdpe main smack in the middle of the hole!, luckily just missed a strike with the pointed digging bar, what are the odds on landing straight on that in a large garden..........
Soakaway looks smart 👌 thankyou for sharing this.
Brilliant video Derek, thanks again...!👍🏽
love real situations, dig hole find stuff in the way, drill hole and drill too long, check inside and find you just missed a cable. wouldnt it be easier to get an office job.
Thanks Derek great video 👍
I used to work for Drain doctor amd if someone bought a house with a collapsed drain, you could get it replaced and charge the bill to the old home owner for the damage they left behind. Buying a house includes everything, which includes the drains.
I dont know your situation but give them a call and see what they say.
With the underground soil I would say the original installers were going to cut in a branch for the condensate but decided against it!
I though you brought a new build house ?
dont understand when you found the UG soil pipe you still used a soakaway
I have a septic tank
Cheers buddy.
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Soil pipe looked like it had been cut through with a grinder.
BTW wear your ear defenders or you'll end up with tinnitus!
Had tinnitus for a very long time 😜
Bit of ct1 and that waste is good a new
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Better is the enemy of good enough
Why not strap on boss and connect to soil pipe
That's what first come up in my mind
Just stick a 150mm flexi coupler over the soil pipe
You uncovered a drain pipe which can be tapped into for the condensate. Seems rather odd that you went to hassle of a soak away. Plus the drain pipe needed repairing. Far better to use a drain pipe if you can. Very strange decisions.
I have a septic tank system so you can’t put boiler condensate water into it so it’s not a strange decision.
@@tomkatgastraining Err what regulation covers that then? Boiler condensate can go into any drainage system including rain water, sewage, soak away and septic tank. A septic tank is after all a form of soak away.... Yes, condensate is acidic but it is lost in the the volume of other domestic waste discharge from house. A typical house will discharge approx 750 litres of waste water per day, and a condensing boiler when operating will product about 2 litres per hour. Therefore the condensate is somewhat lost in the wash.
@@XX-ww8lh mate any decent plumber or gas engineer knows that if you install condensate into a septic tank it attacks the bacteria leading to smells and the tank being pumped out more often causing more cost to the customer.
@@tomkatgastraining utter tosh if you consider how diluted the condensate is in the crap from the house each day. It won't make a blind bit of difference. Besides, there are no controls over what gets thrown down the sink or toilet.
@@XX-ww8lh I guess you have never lived with a septic tank then.?
Electric should be a red duct, purple duct is Fibre or telecoms
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While you're at it, drop the drain to its correct depth. Perhaps it froze and split being so shallow? Wonder what other dodgy workmanship this house is going to uncover? It'll keep your channel busy.
It's as much work as fitting the actual boiler now no extra time or money tho
Looks like land drain
Stephen Humphreys
small job turned into a major job as your fixing other people bodge jobs, that never happens lol
Steve ward
It’s a shitshow Mama.😉
Pain in the arse. Condensing boilers. Let’s save the planet and use a condensing boiler. But look how much extra work and materials are needed to do the job. Waste of time and money. Shame someone can’t design a boiler that condenses through the flue
Like that. Save the planet hoax is a good earner...at least for someone. Peace and goodwill.
Always cat scan before digging!
Who has a cat scan
Cheaper than the repair bill for hitting a cable or being off work from burns! But I get what your saying.