I’m not sure why but the last 10 seconds of visuals was removed from the video. So enjoy Gandalf vs the Balrog: ruclips.net/video/ExU37Xz5Q0Q/видео.html Always remember when Gandalf “smote his ruin upon the mountainside”.
I'm currently playing a paladin 11 sorcerer 2 build. Planning on going up to sorcerer 9. She's a drow oath of the ancients paladin/ divine soul sorcerer.
Personally I find 6/14 is the best split outside of specific builds. A lot of paladin sub classes don’t gain much at 7 and a lot of sorcerers get something pretty good or great at 14. You still get a lot of spell slots and I don’t think the build loses too much from not getting 1-2 high end spells. That’s more of a problem for the wizard who loses them all.
I love making early game builds more than anything and have always wanted to play a sorcadin around level 5, but never wanted to give up extra attack. Taking polearm master is actually a genius fix to tide you over until you get real extra attack and it allows you to get sorcerer levels way earlier. I can’t believe I never considered it as an option. Thank you for showing me that man. It’s really cool!
The 2/18 with booming blade/green flame blade is fun. Plays like more of a smite based spellsinger, though. On that note, 2 paladin 18 spellsinger wouldn't be too bad.
Hello! Great build as usual. I do have one small concern, however. You dip Sorcerer early at level 2 to get Shield, however beware because at this point you dont have Warcaster on a build that has both hands busy. This escalates poorly with Polearm Master specially, since it will require you to start juggling your spear, dropping it and/or stowing it, thus prohibiting you to make Opportunity Attacks, which is one of the great perks of the feat. Im sure youre aware of this since you pick up Warcaster at Paladin 4, but I thought it was worth noting.
Yup. Great point. That would’ve been included in a longer vid. No time on this vid, but it’s an important detail that should be addressed. I may consider a two-handed weapon like a glaive and dropping the shield, if your DM runs a tight ship with hands free casting. At least from levels 2-5.
can't go without the hexblade 1, gotta love the SAD. comes with a couple extra goodies too, like short rest spell slots for tealocking and agathys. if the party really needed it, i'd take hexblade up to 2 for devil's sight, since starting variant human can be annoying depending on the campaign (+ take another invocation, like agonizing blast for a ranged option). that being said, opportunity cost might not be worth it, and it's less of a pure sorcadin at that point 😂. love the build!
You don’t need hexblade. It might not even be beneficial to do so. You’re basically giving up a level in sorcerer (and delaying all your levels) to get a +1 to attack/dmg. Worth it? Maybe.
@@cmccbuilds8229 oh yeah that makes sense. but wouldn't you say that putting the stats into dex 14 instead of str 15 would be worth it? slightly better initiative, no penalty to sneak (breastplate + shield), dex saves are a little higher and str is safer to dump anyway (just take acrobatics from somewhere). is it still better to go heavy armour then?
I'm planning to play Clockwork Soul 10 / Hexblade 2 / Redemption 3 in in a level 10 + at least 5 level of multiclass oneshot session. The DM said that we can't have more than 10 levels in a single class. So this looks like the optimal split for me. I'd like to hear some others' opinions
Pally 7 warlock 5 fighter 2 sorcerer 6 is the only paladin build I can justify that focuses on weapon attacks, you get your 5th level slots for smiles, you get eldritch smite which isn't worth a 3rd level slot but you won't be needing one, you get more than a few spells and features and up to 5 attacks on a turn burning through those smite slots, round 1 I'm still popping bless and making sure I'm on my horsey and near my casters before I charge in
Well once you get ancient paladin 6 the 7th level feature is too good to pass up unlike most of the other oaths ancient has a really rally good 7th level aura but it's really the only one worth delaying sorc levels
I love it, this definitely is what I wanna play. Thanks for the quick and succinct. The video clips go nicely too, and does DND really use Elspeth art? She’s my favorite planeswalker.
For my money, a 2 level paladin start into either warlock or bard is where it's at for this play style. Charisma casters and both get multi attack with proper build. Boom; heavy armor, shield, martial weapons and multi attack smite spam from a caster that will reach level 9 spells. No compromises, though the 5-7 stretch IS a bit painful if you have good enough starting stats to go the bard route.
Devotion Pal/Divine Soul Sorcerer is my favorite multiclass right now. It’s like a cleric with Extra Attack, Smite, and a mix of Arcane and Divine Magic. It ticks a lot of my favorite boxes. EDIT: Also, who doesn’t want to be a Paladin with Fireball.
I find that splashing in 1 level of hexblade and going elven accuracy vengeance sorlockadin is really strong. You can even take eldritch adept later and get the agonizing blast. This way, you can essentially play the sorlock (spam eldritch blast with agonizing blast with action and bonus action), and also do sorcadin things except you crit on 19-20 with 3d20 rolls on a single target x1 per short rest. If the boss flies away from you, provided you have that you have channel divinity and hexblade's curse you, you can murder it with EB spam
2 pala/1 hexblade/rest swords bard, that way you get extra attack, attack with charisma, and high ac with the defensive flourish. thought with sorc you could quicken booming blade instead, plus spirit guardians+spiritual weapon with divine soul sorc.
I’ve been playing one in a recent campaign that is dex based and has became a serious problem. Ability scores go at least 13 in str and chr for multiclasses. As much in dex, con second, and then int last. I got level 1 feat (kobold cus our dm was nice enough to give us lvl 1 feats) and took spell sniper to let me cast booming blade at 10ft, that because my main damage would be from booming blade, and started with my first level into draconic sorcerer, partly for the con saves and partly for charicter flavor l. then 2 levels into paladin for smites + martial weapons mostly, also grabbed some fun stuff. Next level sorc, pick up twin spell and quicken spell for maximum attacks. And at 4 grab the war caster feat. Now it get serious, the rest of the levels go into sorceres for more slots and bigger spells, although you aren’t playing a sorcerer, your a paladin, with a lit of smite slots. However before you start smiting remember to never get hit, give yourself blur, and spam shield when needed. Dropping concentration (at least at the level I’m playing this guy at (7)) is rare with your proficency in con and warcaster, so the rare times you do get him, you can stay up and fight. Your a dodge tank, not a meat tank. Now just have fun never getting hit, running around people and forcing them to move to trigger more booming blade damage. It’s probobly not the most optimal and depending on how long the game goes on for might be better to go more into paladin for aura and such after 4-5 levels into sorcerer. I’m going deeper mostly to pick up spells that matches my charicters flavor, but all spells shouldn’t be damage or save based spells but instead buffs, utility or ones that augment you and your teams abilities. The people I’m playing with I’m the only real veteran in the group and holy shit it’s needed, we have almost died so many times. But I’m excited to get polymorph and turn one of them into a T-Rex
I went with Tabaxi (MotM) 8 Open Sea Paladin/12 Aberrant Mind Sorcerer. Shadow Blade is my primary weapon spell of choice, and quickening a Dissonant Whispers can give you a potential 3Melee smitable attacks plus the damage from Whispers for a total of 4 instances of HEAVY psychic damage, and that's before any smiting. At base, Shadow Blade does 2d8 with advantage in dim/dark, and the blindsight fighting style makes this devastating in magical darkness. At spell lv 7, Shadow Blade does 5d8 per attack!
Interesting thing about green flame blade over booming if you go dragon bloodline you get cha mod to fire spell damage at 6th level. Genie warlock for Genie wrath stacks nicely with this and dueling fighting style. Aasimar racial one minute ability does too.
My first Sorcadin is going to be Paladin 12/Sorcerer 8, would be more powerful with more sorcerer levels but i wanted hp to be atleast on par with d8 characters to still be able to tank hits
Hexblade is useful if you want to take spells with saving throws. Yes, you're 1 level behind from getting ASIs, but when you get to it it's pretty much like getting 2 ASIs since you'll get the equivalent of upgrading your attack modifier and spell DC modifier at the same moment in the game (again, only useful if you want to go for spells with saving throws), and Eldritch Blast is a useful cantrip, even without taking Agonizing Blast the extra attacks and damage type can be a buff to other options for when the enemy doesn't have you in its reach. But a character can perfectly take stuff like shield, magic misile or just divine smite and ignore his Charisma.
It is certainly a decision, losing 1 level in the build means that you would lose your aura or your wings, personally I would take it in exchange for the paladin’s aura. But again this works better if you want to get the most out of your saving throw DC and ASIs, if you start with a 16 in your Str and Cha and want to take them both to 20 you would need 4 ASIs and you only get 5 of them. While with a single level in Hexblade you would upgrade your Attack and ST DC with just 2 ASIs allowing you to take other feats like tough, ritual caster, fighting initiate for the dueling fighting style, Magic Initiate, Ritual Caster, etc.
Hexblade also gives you access to Armor of Agathys and the shield spell without having to dip sorcerer right away, but you delay Spirit Guardians, which is tough for me, since it comes online so late already. Basically, I'd have to weigh the ability to get Strength increasing magic items. A small chance to get them would make me want to dip into hexblade a bit more. A good chance would mean, I probably would forgo the dip for a straight sorcadin multiclass.
I went 6 vengeance and am now 6 shadow sorc. Hard to rationalize my murder hobo having a divine soul, and shadow sorc gets a doggo. Am seriously debating a fighter dip now that I have the puppers of disadvantage, but 14 sorc perks seem great
i love this build idea! Gonna play dnd for the first time with my friends soon and i think ill do something like this, but i gotta ask, did you pick polearm master out of preference or can i use any weapon i want
Would you ever do a fighter/paladin build? I know it's not considered optimal, but I'm currently playing a "psychic knight" psi warrior 11/vengeance paladin 3.
@@cmccbuilds8229 it's a bit MAD, but with the fighter levels it's easier to get the stats you want. I just use Paladin spells for smite or support. What's an unusual build you've done?
hey i was wondering what would be better to mix in with a paladin, warlock or sorcerer? i was hearing about the witch knight build and how strong it was and now im learning about the sorcadin, what can i expect with either of the two?
So I just came across a build I haven't seen yet that I'm currently building. A Bugbear Fighter! New Bugbear of course. I believe you could do it justice if you built one. I enjoy your vids, so I'd love to see it. Just an idea. Forgot to mention it was an Echo Knight, and based around the new surprise attack ability 😏
What would be best build/class to play a campain where the rule is to build character in a New beyond account with no source books added other than whats free
I kinda dislike the choice to get polearm master for this. While it's good to get an extra attack pr even two per turn, you might want to use your bonus action on something else. Quickening boing blade comes to mind. As well as reaction boomimng blade. Now, doing this for booming blade is the simplest of examples of what to spend your bonus action instead of extra attacks. Quickened cast of bless of spirit guardians is a better example, and booming blade on reaction doesn't cost anything. Even better casting booming blade as a reaction will force the creature that triggered that reaction to rethink if it really wants to get away from you.
why you choose Draconic Transformation as the 7th level spell? i thimk crown of star or a quickened firestorm would be a cool choice too, so i'm genuinely interested in the why
Crown of Stars makes ranged spell attacks - so it's a bad pick for a melee character. Firestorm is ok. Damage isn't great. Draconic Transformation provides Blindsight, Flying (so no need for ranged attacks, you can fly right into melee), and a 60 foot cone 6d8 breath weapon EVERY turn as a bonus action. And it's force damage, not fire. It's a strong spell. Divine Word is also extremely powerful. If you're going against a lot of Celestial, Fiends, elemental, or fey - you kind of have to grab this spell. A bonus action, concentration free banishment on ALL the CFEF's that can hear you? Yes please.
I played this exact build but with sword and shield it is insanely good. But in my mind paladin 2/divine sorc 18 is probably the option for sorcadin since Booming blade can replace extra attack and with so many spell slots you can smite more often and with a concentration spell like animate object, spirit guardians and spiritual weapon your damage will be equal if not higher than other melee classes(not to mention simulacrum and wish) . The only things that really hurt is missing out divine protection and the fact that only 2 level of paladin is really really bad for role play since you are a paladin without an oath that's why I choose paladin 6/sorc X just because it would not feel like a paladin without at least the sacred oath even if Pala 2/sorc X is better on average unless you want to be tanky but you could be hard to kill even with just the full plate shield and absorb elements but you would have fewer HP and much lower saves
@@cmccbuilds8229 yeah best multi class ever heavy armor shield smite healing eldlich blast shield spell hexblade curse go divine soul for cleric spells spell slots quicken spells and twinned spells you can do a decaf coffelock transforming your High level slot in sorcery point and use them to make low level slots or metamagic you are a tank healer bust damage dealer you have Long range options movement with Misty steps
with paladin sorcerer hexblade warlock you can focus on charisma you have the hexblade curse instead of hunters mark. you get hexblade at level 2 instead of sorcerer for shield spell and armour of agathys for defence eldlitch blast for range and or green flame blade or booming Blade at level 3 you get sorcerer bless cantrip spare the dying toll the dead and a attack catrip I usually go for chill touch from here you can do everything you want you have your classes set. Paladin 2 smite if you need melee damage sorcerer 2 sorcery point (to make slots) if you need more healing and support options warlock 2 invocations (devil sights and agonizing blast) if you need more range damage then get sorcerer 3 for metamagic (quicken spell and twin are the best) you can go for warlock 3 for pact of the blade and enhanced pact weapon you are already set with Paladin 2 sorcerer 3 hexblade 2 or 3
I'm always confused why the 2/18 split is seen as weaker. It's generally acknowledged that somewhere between level 5 and 10 casters pull ahead of martials, and the divide gets bigger at higher levels. It seems to me that the 2/18 split gives up nothing at the very low levels, a little at the 5-7 range, and then pulls ahead hard and never looks back. When the full Paladin gets their second subclass feature, you're getting 3rd level spells. No subclass feature is as powerful as Spirit Guardians or Hypnotic Pattern.
Paladin 13 soc 7, get a dragonnel mount, haste, smites, gwm, polearm. LOADS of damage, no one can get to you with 240ft and flyby. Add all the Paladins goodies +shield, absord, feather fall
I’m not sure why but the last 10 seconds of visuals was removed from the video. So enjoy Gandalf vs the Balrog: ruclips.net/video/ExU37Xz5Q0Q/видео.html
Always remember when Gandalf “smote his ruin upon the mountainside”.
I particularly like the 6/14 split seeing as it gives you a nice little boost.
I'm currently playing a paladin 11 sorcerer 2 build. Planning on going up to sorcerer 9. She's a drow oath of the ancients paladin/ divine soul sorcerer.
Personally I find 6/14 is the best split outside of specific builds. A lot of paladin sub classes don’t gain much at 7 and a lot of sorcerers get something pretty good or great at 14. You still get a lot of spell slots and I don’t think the build loses too much from not getting 1-2 high end spells. That’s more of a problem for the wizard who loses them all.
I love making early game builds more than anything and have always wanted to play a sorcadin around level 5, but never wanted to give up extra attack. Taking polearm master is actually a genius fix to tide you over until you get real extra attack and it allows you to get sorcerer levels way earlier. I can’t believe I never considered it as an option.
Thank you for showing me that man. It’s really cool!
The 2/18 with booming blade/green flame blade is fun. Plays like more of a smite based spellsinger, though.
On that note, 2 paladin 18 spellsinger wouldn't be too bad.
Bladesinger?
@@cmccbuilds8229 haha yes, bladesinger*.
Having a high athletics with enhance ability casted as a quickened spell is SOOOOOO fun to do
Hello! Great build as usual.
I do have one small concern, however. You dip Sorcerer early at level 2 to get Shield, however beware because at this point you dont have Warcaster on a build that has both hands busy.
This escalates poorly with Polearm Master specially, since it will require you to start juggling your spear, dropping it and/or stowing it, thus prohibiting you to make Opportunity Attacks, which is one of the great perks of the feat.
Im sure youre aware of this since you pick up Warcaster at Paladin 4, but I thought it was worth noting.
Yup. Great point. That would’ve been included in a longer vid. No time on this vid, but it’s an important detail that should be addressed.
I may consider a two-handed weapon like a glaive and dropping the shield, if your DM runs a tight ship with hands free casting. At least from levels 2-5.
can't go without the hexblade 1, gotta love the SAD. comes with a couple extra goodies too, like short rest spell slots for tealocking and agathys. if the party really needed it, i'd take hexblade up to 2 for devil's sight, since starting variant human can be annoying depending on the campaign (+ take another invocation, like agonizing blast for a ranged option). that being said, opportunity cost might not be worth it, and it's less of a pure sorcadin at that point 😂. love the build!
You don’t need hexblade. It might not even be beneficial to do so. You’re basically giving up a level in sorcerer (and delaying all your levels) to get a +1 to attack/dmg. Worth it? Maybe.
@@cmccbuilds8229 oh yeah that makes sense. but wouldn't you say that putting the stats into dex 14 instead of str 15 would be worth it? slightly better initiative, no penalty to sneak (breastplate + shield), dex saves are a little higher and str is safer to dump anyway (just take acrobatics from somewhere). is it still better to go heavy armour then?
What are the full stats?
@@cmccbuilds8229 not sure, just conjecturing. probably dex 14, con and cha 16, wis at 10? room to even it out a bit if you don't want negatives.
You could do
13, 14, 13, 8, 9, 15
Not sure that’s better though.
I'm planning to play Clockwork Soul 10 / Hexblade 2 / Redemption 3 in in a level 10 + at least 5 level of multiclass oneshot session. The DM said that we can't have more than 10 levels in a single class. So this looks like the optimal split for me. I'd like to hear some others' opinions
Pally 7 warlock 5 fighter 2 sorcerer 6 is the only paladin build I can justify that focuses on weapon attacks, you get your 5th level slots for smiles, you get eldritch smite which isn't worth a 3rd level slot but you won't be needing one, you get more than a few spells and features and up to 5 attacks on a turn burning through those smite slots, round 1 I'm still popping bless and making sure I'm on my horsey and near my casters before I charge in
I chose a 7:13 split to get the Ancients Oath feature. Love resistance to spells.
Yeah that’s perfectly fine
Well once you get ancient paladin 6 the 7th level feature is too good to pass up unlike most of the other oaths ancient has a really rally good 7th level aura but it's really the only one worth delaying sorc levels
Well... Watchers Oath too. Party of 7 loves that Initiative bonus and it helps offset the terrible DEX on the Pally
Would like to see your take on a Conquest Paladin build, great content as always 😊
I love it, this definitely is what I wanna play. Thanks for the quick and succinct. The video clips go nicely too, and does DND really use Elspeth art? She’s my favorite planeswalker.
The picture u used at 6:00 is the picture I use for my PAM pally that I made his name is krushkor lmao
For my money, a 2 level paladin start into either warlock or bard is where it's at for this play style. Charisma casters and both get multi attack with proper build. Boom; heavy armor, shield, martial weapons and multi attack smite spam from a caster that will reach level 9 spells. No compromises, though the 5-7 stretch IS a bit painful if you have good enough starting stats to go the bard route.
Devotion Pal/Divine Soul Sorcerer is my favorite multiclass right now. It’s like a cleric with Extra Attack, Smite, and a mix of Arcane and Divine Magic. It ticks a lot of my favorite boxes. EDIT: Also, who doesn’t want to be a Paladin with Fireball.
I find that splashing in 1 level of hexblade and going elven accuracy vengeance sorlockadin is really strong. You can even take eldritch adept later and get the agonizing blast. This way, you can essentially play the sorlock (spam eldritch blast with agonizing blast with action and bonus action), and also do sorcadin things except you crit on 19-20 with 3d20 rolls on a single target x1 per short rest. If the boss flies away from you, provided you have that you have channel divinity and hexblade's curse you, you can murder it with EB spam
2 pala/1 hexblade/rest swords bard, that way you get extra attack, attack with charisma, and high ac with the defensive flourish. thought with sorc you could quicken booming blade instead, plus spirit guardians+spiritual weapon with divine soul sorc.
@maxjarvis384 but that’s not… a sorcadin ;)
I have been thinking about Vengeance Pally/ Shadow Sorc/ 3 Lvls Assassin Rogue
Thanks!
Much appreciated!!
I’ve been playing one in a recent campaign that is dex based and has became a serious problem. Ability scores go at least 13 in str and chr for multiclasses. As much in dex, con second, and then int last. I got level 1 feat (kobold cus our dm was nice enough to give us lvl 1 feats) and took spell sniper to let me cast booming blade at 10ft, that because my main damage would be from booming blade, and started with my first level into draconic sorcerer, partly for the con saves and partly for charicter flavor l.
then 2 levels into paladin for smites + martial weapons mostly, also grabbed some fun stuff. Next level sorc, pick up twin spell and quicken spell for maximum attacks. And at 4 grab the war caster feat.
Now it get serious, the rest of the levels go into sorceres for more slots and bigger spells, although you aren’t playing a sorcerer, your a paladin, with a lit of smite slots. However before you start smiting remember to never get hit, give yourself blur, and spam shield when needed. Dropping concentration (at least at the level I’m playing this guy at (7)) is rare with your proficency in con and warcaster, so the rare times you do get him, you can stay up and fight. Your a dodge tank, not a meat tank. Now just have fun never getting hit, running around people and forcing them to move to trigger more booming blade damage.
It’s probobly not the most optimal and depending on how long the game goes on for might be better to go more into paladin for aura and such after 4-5 levels into sorcerer. I’m going deeper mostly to pick up spells that matches my charicters flavor, but all spells shouldn’t be damage or save based spells but instead buffs, utility or ones that augment you and your teams abilities. The people I’m playing with I’m the only real veteran in the group and holy shit it’s needed, we have almost died so many times. But I’m excited to get polymorph and turn one of them into a T-Rex
I went with Tabaxi (MotM) 8 Open Sea Paladin/12 Aberrant Mind Sorcerer. Shadow Blade is my primary weapon spell of choice, and quickening a Dissonant Whispers can give you a potential 3Melee smitable attacks plus the damage from Whispers for a total of 4 instances of HEAVY psychic damage, and that's before any smiting. At base, Shadow Blade does 2d8 with advantage in dim/dark, and the blindsight fighting style makes this devastating in magical darkness. At spell lv 7, Shadow Blade does 5d8 per attack!
Open sea is homebrew/3rd party unfortunately
@@cmccbuilds8229 Vengeance works just as well, if not better. I use UA sea because it fits my pirate pally thematically.
Interesting thing about green flame blade over booming if you go dragon bloodline you get cha mod to fire spell damage at 6th level.
Genie warlock for Genie wrath stacks nicely with this and dueling fighting style. Aasimar racial one minute ability does too.
Not going warlock and if we don’t go divine soul - clockwork is the pick. There’s probably a build out there that goes draconic, genie, GFB.
My first Sorcadin is going to be Paladin 12/Sorcerer 8, would be more powerful with more sorcerer levels but i wanted hp to be atleast on par with d8 characters to still be able to tank hits
A single level in Hexblade Warlock is such a good bridge to bring the "Charisma full caster" and the "Charisma Martial" together.
I think I addressed the hexblade dip in another comment
Hexblade is useful if you want to take spells with saving throws. Yes, you're 1 level behind from getting ASIs, but when you get to it it's pretty much like getting 2 ASIs since you'll get the equivalent of upgrading your attack modifier and spell DC modifier at the same moment in the game (again, only useful if you want to go for spells with saving throws), and Eldritch Blast is a useful cantrip, even without taking Agonizing Blast the extra attacks and damage type can be a buff to other options for when the enemy doesn't have you in its reach.
But a character can perfectly take stuff like shield, magic misile or just divine smite and ignore his Charisma.
There are certainly plenty of pluses to taking a hexblade dip. No question. Do they outweigh the negatives? I’m not so sure.
It is certainly a decision, losing 1 level in the build means that you would lose your aura or your wings, personally I would take it in exchange for the paladin’s aura.
But again this works better if you want to get the most out of your saving throw DC and ASIs, if you start with a 16 in your Str and Cha and want to take them both to 20 you would need 4 ASIs and you only get 5 of them.
While with a single level in Hexblade you would upgrade your Attack and ST DC with just 2 ASIs allowing you to take other feats like tough, ritual caster, fighting initiate for the dueling fighting style, Magic Initiate, Ritual Caster, etc.
Hexblade also gives you access to Armor of Agathys and the shield spell without having to dip sorcerer right away, but you delay Spirit Guardians, which is tough for me, since it comes online so late already.
Basically, I'd have to weigh the ability to get Strength increasing magic items. A small chance to get them would make me want to dip into hexblade a bit more. A good chance would mean, I probably would forgo the dip for a straight sorcadin multiclass.
Is GWM worth getting if im going glaive? love the build just subscribed
So I am starting a campaign relatively soon and we start at lvl 3 would you recommend doing the 2p/1s split to start off the campaign?
I went 6 vengeance and am now 6 shadow sorc. Hard to rationalize my murder hobo having a divine soul, and shadow sorc gets a doggo. Am seriously debating a fighter dip now that I have the puppers of disadvantage, but 14 sorc perks seem great
Iam Playing A:
2nd Level Fighter (Action Surge) /
1st Level Twilight Cleric (300ft Darkvision) & A 17th Level Bladesinger...
i love this build idea! Gonna play dnd for the first time with my friends soon and i think ill do something like this, but i gotta ask, did you pick polearm master out of preference or can i use any weapon i want
If you want to optimize: PAM. Otherwise, play whatever you like. It’s your game :)
I´ll probably do greatsword because it sounds the coolest, btw i subbed
Would you ever do a fighter/paladin build? I know it's not considered optimal, but I'm currently playing a "psychic knight" psi warrior 11/vengeance paladin 3.
Sounds cool!
@@cmccbuilds8229 it's a bit MAD, but with the fighter levels it's easier to get the stats you want. I just use Paladin spells for smite or support.
What's an unusual build you've done?
hey i was wondering what would be better to mix in with a paladin, warlock or sorcerer? i was hearing about the witch knight build and how strong it was and now im learning about the sorcadin, what can i expect with either of the two?
Watch this video. Watch my Hexadin video. Decide which appeals to you.
Nice video. Was curious what kind of build you would do for The Witchblade kind of build?
I’m not familiar with it, so can’t make any solid recs on builds.
@@cmccbuilds8229 ahh. ok. thanks for at least responding back.. love the videos
What are you using to create. Trying to follow your guide dnd beyond but can't choose polarm master as a feat when creating a first level paladin?
Do you have everything purchased?
So I just came across a build I haven't seen yet that I'm currently building. A Bugbear Fighter! New Bugbear of course. I believe you could do it justice if you built one. I enjoy your vids, so I'd love to see it. Just an idea. Forgot to mention it was an Echo Knight, and based around the new surprise attack ability 😏
The new bugbear makes a fantastic gloomstalker, monk, and echo knight
The classical sorcadin, what's next, the sorlock?
Saving that for C3 of optimizing critical role ;)
@@cmccbuilds8229 Great! It would be interesting as a comoarative with the new rules
How do you feel about a 1 level dip into hexblade and running sword and shield type build or 3 levels to stick with pam+gwm?
Just 1 for a sorcadin. Check out the Geralt build.
Every single one of these says variant human. What build would people go with if they WEREN'T taking a feat at level 1.
What would be best build/class to play a campain where the rule is to build character in a New beyond account with no source books added other than whats free
Idk what’s available for free. Maybe someone else here does?
Tbh - pick something where subclass doesn’t matter much: wizard or paladin.
6 Paladin 1 hexblade 3 Swordbard 8 sorcerer 2 fighter
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Kenobi is on the channel :)
I’m trying to build a sorcerer/pally we are playing curse of stradh level 1 to level 8 any advice
Use the build in the video :)
@@cmccbuilds8229 what ratio 2/6 or what do you think
@@anthonycassidy1124 1/7 if it has a good lvl 7 feature. 2/6 if not.
@@cmccbuilds8229 2pally/6sorc
Opposite unless you just want to smite
I kinda dislike the choice to get polearm master for this. While it's good to get an extra attack pr even two per turn, you might want to use your bonus action on something else. Quickening boing blade comes to mind. As well as reaction boomimng blade. Now, doing this for booming blade is the simplest of examples of what to spend your bonus action instead of extra attacks. Quickened cast of bless of spirit guardians is a better example, and booming blade on reaction doesn't cost anything. Even better casting booming blade as a reaction will force the creature that triggered that reaction to rethink if it really wants to get away from you.
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why you choose Draconic Transformation as the 7th level spell?
i thimk crown of star or a quickened firestorm would be a cool choice too, so i'm genuinely interested in the why
Crown of Stars makes ranged spell attacks - so it's a bad pick for a melee character. Firestorm is ok. Damage isn't great. Draconic Transformation provides Blindsight, Flying (so no need for ranged attacks, you can fly right into melee), and a 60 foot cone 6d8 breath weapon EVERY turn as a bonus action. And it's force damage, not fire. It's a strong spell.
Divine Word is also extremely powerful. If you're going against a lot of Celestial, Fiends, elemental, or fey - you kind of have to grab this spell. A bonus action, concentration free banishment on ALL the CFEF's that can hear you? Yes please.
I played this exact build but with sword and shield it is insanely good. But in my mind paladin 2/divine sorc 18 is probably the option for sorcadin since Booming blade can replace extra attack and with so many spell slots you can smite more often and with a concentration spell like animate object, spirit guardians and spiritual weapon your damage will be equal if not higher than other melee classes(not to mention simulacrum and wish) . The only things that really hurt is missing out divine protection and the fact that only 2 level of paladin is really really bad for role play since you are a paladin without an oath that's why I choose paladin 6/sorc X just because it would not feel like a paladin without at least the sacred oath even if Pala 2/sorc X is better on average unless you want to be tanky but you could be hard to kill even with just the full plate shield and absorb elements but you would have fewer HP and much lower saves
Extend is a good way to use sorcery points for that spirit gaurdians
i thing you need a dip in hex blade warlock
Then it’s not a sorcadin ;) sorlockadin?
@@cmccbuilds8229 yeah best multi class ever
heavy armor shield smite healing
eldlich blast shield spell hexblade curse
go divine soul for cleric spells spell slots quicken spells and twinned spells you can do a decaf coffelock transforming your High level slot in sorcery point and use them to make low level slots or metamagic
you are a tank healer bust damage dealer you have Long range options movement with Misty steps
with paladin sorcerer hexblade warlock you can focus on charisma you have the hexblade curse instead of hunters mark.
you get hexblade at level 2 instead of sorcerer for shield spell and armour of agathys for defence eldlitch blast for range and or green flame blade or booming Blade
at level 3 you get sorcerer bless cantrip spare the dying toll the dead and a attack catrip I usually go for chill touch
from here you can do everything you want you have your classes set.
Paladin 2 smite if you need melee damage
sorcerer 2 sorcery point (to make slots) if you need more healing and support options
warlock 2 invocations (devil sights and agonizing blast) if you need more range damage
then get sorcerer 3 for metamagic (quicken spell and twin are the best)
you can go for warlock 3 for pact of the blade and enhanced pact weapon
you are already set with
Paladin 2 sorcerer 3 hexblade 2 or 3
I'm always confused why the 2/18 split is seen as weaker. It's generally acknowledged that somewhere between level 5 and 10 casters pull ahead of martials, and the divide gets bigger at higher levels. It seems to me that the 2/18 split gives up nothing at the very low levels, a little at the 5-7 range, and then pulls ahead hard and never looks back.
When the full Paladin gets their second subclass feature, you're getting 3rd level spells. No subclass feature is as powerful as Spirit Guardians or Hypnotic Pattern.
Personally sacrificing the aura of protection and taking a 1 level hex blade dip to ignore strength is my go to. 1/5/14
Skipping aura?? Blasphemy!! ;)
Paladin 13 soc 7, get a dragonnel mount, haste, smites, gwm, polearm. LOADS of damage, no one can get to you with 240ft and flyby. Add all the Paladins goodies +shield, absord, feather fall
6/14 Paladin sorc is pretty good, Dragonborn + Draconic bloodline + elemental adept is fun, or divine soul
6/14 also gets you 9th level spells at level 20.
Slots not spells
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First.
take Lorehold background and re flavor to your campaign for Spirit Guardians if you want to be clockwork sorcerer.