Celemony suggests at 3:13 that ARA technology is happily at work in the recent Pro Tools 2020.11-Melodyne _marriage._ But I feel that that may be a bit of a stretch. *Audio to MIDI* may _hook_ into Melodyne's algorithms but, from what I can tell, it's basically just a one-and-done straight-through conversion... I really don't see anything "ARA" about it. In order for Audio to MIDI to work as an ARA feature as presented here, Melodyne would need to be actively "aware" of what is on every single audio track at all times. If that were the case, then there would be no need to *manually* transfer individual selections of audio into Melodyne in order to work with it -- they would already be available. Plus, there are no _live_ links (correct me if I'm wrong) between the original audio and resulting MIDI events. Without those, it's not really "ARA" in any meaningful sense. Get rid of the *Transfer* button in the Melodyne interface, and have changes in Melodyne's timeline immediately reflected in Pro Tools' and vice versa. THEN you'll have ARA as it was intended.
ARA is just the technology that the Audio-to-MIDI feature in Pro Tools is based on. The note detection and MIDI conversion is done by Melodyne silently in the background. Of course you are right, there’s more to ARA than just this, but at least it’s a start, isn’t it? 🙂
@@celemony Oh, it IS a start, and that's HUGE... I am (as many, many other Pro Tools _survivors_ are, I'm sure) SO happy that Avid is *actively* involved with Celemony. But in all candor, it's hard to be satisfied with baby steps at this point, when Avid *should* have been fully on-board with ARA *years* ago. I don't suppose you can give us a hint of when we _might_ see that Transfer button disappear? 😇😉
Actually you can leave the Melodyne plug-in on your track. But if you have good reason to disable it, simply render/bounce the track to a new track in Pro Tools.
I have pro tools 2020.11 Where is my free Melodyne 5 essential?????? There is not download, it says it comes with the protools update, its not in my plugin folder.
ARA is implemented already with this . How do you think the Audio to midi feature work ? :-/ Look at the preferences in Protools and you would see the ARA function menu.
*Audio to MIDI* may _hook_ into Melodyne's algorithms but, from what I can tell, it's basically just a one-and-done straight-through conversion. Despite what Celemony states at 3:13 in the video, I really don't see anything "ARA" about it in the sense that there are any _live_ links between the resulting MIDI events and the original audio events. Seems a bit of a stretch if you ask me.
@@PressRecord777 Hithis what ARA is according to Melodyne website . If you check preferences in Protools it says ARA Melodyne. ARA Audio Random Access™ allows a DAW and plug-in to exchange information about the audio file, tempo, pitch, rhythm and much else besides and thereby work considerably more closely together.
@@emdrstudio I understand what ARA is _supposed_ to be... but just because there's now an *option* for it in Pro Tools Preferences doesn't mean that it's actually implemented in the way it was intended. ARA is supposed to provide real-time *two-way* communication between the plugin and the DAW. I don't see that happening here. All I see is a simple Pro Tools _call_ to a Melodyne _function_ to do a linear translation on the selected "data." When that translation is complete, all you're left with is a bunch of standalone MIDI events in a Pro Tools track, and Melodyne no longer has any "knowledge" that any of it ever even happened. That's not ARA, as far as I'm concerned.
" Please note in the case of ARA-compatible DAWs: Since the DAW manufacturers support ARA Audio Random Access in different ways, the range of ARA functions varies from DAW to DAW. You will find details of the ARA support in the documentation of the DAW in question " www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/editions-and-technical-matters
@@emdrstudio Thanks Jesus, I'll check out the link. Just to be clear, my beef is with Avid, not Celemony (whom I have nothing but praise and deep respect for). Avid, OTOH, seems to be content playing it safe for the benefit of their huge (important) customers, at the expense of innovation. I was appalled to realize the other day that ARA has been out for over NINE *YEARS* now, showing how late to the game Avid really is. That said, this new _partnership_ between them and Celemony provides a glimmer that Pro Tool will eventually see a more or less complete ARA implementation. I'd quite frankly given up hope.
@@FollowerOfChrist7777 Not so much anymore. Many DAWs are used by Pros around the world. There is a Grammy Award Winning Mixing and Mastering Engineer that uses Studio One. Studio One works with Protools that's cross platform capable as you can load Protools sessions in Studio One. Grammy Producer Oak Felder uses nothing but Logic that creates beats and cuts all his clients vocals in Logic. He Produced Sorry Not Sorry entirely in Logic Pro vocals and everything.
@@nightski380 it's in the pro edition. I currently have Studio One Pro 4.5 installed. You also have to download the melodyne setup from your Presonus account if you own the Professional edition of Studio One and install it.
I put a ticket on pro tools 🛠 melodyne enssetianls is not working when I open it on 2020 11.0 .I did the activation and everything it comes out a error saying 7054 🥵
I hope You work on offline transfer in the near future, which could be much faster then to do it real time, which is a pain in the @ss, when I have to melodyne a 90 minutes concert...
Melodyne is already ready for ‘offline transfer’. This is part of our ARA technology. But of course the DAW must also support it, so in this case you should address your request to Avid. 🙂
@@celemony I don't think I would have more impact on Avid as a person, like You, as an audio company. But You can still give us back the "Spot to Pro Tools" function, which was so handy in the standalone version, that it was so much faster to work with, than the plugin. I guess this function is nothing to do with Avid, right? :)
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Try 'Commit up until this insert' trick in Pro Tools. The Pro Tools Expert blog has a video on this on RUclips. " The Melodyne ARA Pro Tools hack"
We already provided the ARA SDK for developers. But the ARA implementation has to be done by the DAW manufacturers, not us. 🙂 Feel free to request ARA support from them.
@@celemony Do a video using Melodyne ARA in Logic . If not cool but editing chords just looked really cool . When I added Melodyne to my guitar chord , Melodyne read each chord as one note.
@@celemony can’t you answer my question please, before I buy the wrong one? I use reason(sad I know) so I can’t use vst3, is there any way to purchase melodyne 4?
@@hottroundzproductions All Melodyne editions except Melodyne essential come with the Audio-to-MIDI feature. If you need to convert polyphonic audio (i.e. chords, pianos, guitars, etc.) to MIDI, then go for Melodyne editor or Melodyne studio. Hope this helps.
@@celemony but I can do that with assistant in pro tools. The standalone allows me to see the chords/notes but not export the midi - which I need to do if I want to use it in reason which doesn’t support vst3
Melodyne essential is the perfect entry-level version of Melodyne. Of course, if you need more Melodyne features, you are free to upgrade to a larger Melodyne edition. But this one, after all, comes free (!) with Pro Tools. Shouldn’t be much to complain about then, should it? 😉
@@hottroundzproductions Of course you can. 🙂 In fact, we currently have an upgrade sale in our shop, and you can save up to 50% on your upgrade! See here: shop.celemony.com
@@celemony awesome. Which version do I need to get the audio to midi feature? I can do it with essentials in pro tools but when I do it standalone it doesn’t give me the option to export as the midi it shows, only chords. Do I need to upgrade to assistant for that? Thanks!!
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When will Pro Tools get ARA2 integration?
Please make Avid work on ARA2
bravo, this showcase / demo is a true masterpiece
Celemony suggests at 3:13 that ARA technology is happily at work in the recent Pro Tools 2020.11-Melodyne _marriage._ But I feel that that may be a bit of a stretch.
*Audio to MIDI* may _hook_ into Melodyne's algorithms but, from what I can tell, it's basically just a one-and-done straight-through conversion... I really don't see anything "ARA" about it. In order for Audio to MIDI to work as an ARA feature as presented here, Melodyne would need to be actively "aware" of what is on every single audio track at all times. If that were the case, then there would be no need to *manually* transfer individual selections of audio into Melodyne in order to work with it -- they would already be available. Plus, there are no _live_ links (correct me if I'm wrong) between the original audio and resulting MIDI events. Without those, it's not really "ARA" in any meaningful sense.
Get rid of the *Transfer* button in the Melodyne interface, and have changes in Melodyne's timeline immediately reflected in Pro Tools' and vice versa. THEN you'll have ARA as it was intended.
ARA is just the technology that the Audio-to-MIDI feature in Pro Tools is based on. The note detection and MIDI conversion is done by Melodyne silently in the background. Of course you are right, there’s more to ARA than just this, but at least it’s a start, isn’t it? 🙂
@@celemony Oh, it IS a start, and that's HUGE... I am (as many, many other Pro Tools _survivors_ are, I'm sure) SO happy that Avid is *actively* involved with Celemony. But in all candor, it's hard to be satisfied with baby steps at this point, when Avid *should* have been fully on-board with ARA *years* ago.
I don't suppose you can give us a hint of when we _might_ see that Transfer button disappear? 😇😉
Hello, how can we export audio in pro tools once the editing is finished ?
Actually you can leave the Melodyne plug-in on your track. But if you have good reason to disable it, simply render/bounce the track to a new track in Pro Tools.
I have pro tools 2020.11
Where is my free Melodyne 5 essential??????
There is not download, it says it comes with the protools update, its not in my plugin folder.
Hey, sorry for the late reply. If you still haven’t found your Melodyne, please contact support@celemony.com. Thank you!
hola consulta, no me aparece el melodyne como insert en el pro-tools qué puedo hacer? saludos y gracias!
Hello Kary, could you please contact our Tech Support here: www.celemony.com/support - Thank you!
Will my copy of Melodyne essential expire after my active 2021 PT plan expires? Or i get to own it?
Could you please contact our Tech Support team about this? See here: helpcenter.celemony.com/en/supportRequest
Did you get the answer though?? I'm thinking the same
I don't want to give Avid more money than I already spent lol
I'd like to know the same, and if it's upgradeable.
ARA is implemented already with this . How do you think the Audio to midi feature work ? :-/ Look at the preferences in Protools and you would see the ARA function menu.
*Audio to MIDI* may _hook_ into Melodyne's algorithms but, from what I can tell, it's basically just a one-and-done straight-through conversion. Despite what Celemony states at 3:13 in the video, I really don't see anything "ARA" about it in the sense that there are any _live_ links between the resulting MIDI events and the original audio events. Seems a bit of a stretch if you ask me.
@@PressRecord777 Hithis what ARA is according to Melodyne website . If you check preferences in Protools it says ARA Melodyne.
ARA Audio Random Access™ allows a DAW and plug-in to exchange information about the audio file, tempo, pitch, rhythm and much else besides and thereby work considerably more closely together.
@@emdrstudio I understand what ARA is _supposed_ to be... but just because there's now an *option* for it in Pro Tools Preferences doesn't mean that it's actually implemented in the way it was intended. ARA is supposed to provide real-time *two-way* communication between the plugin and the DAW. I don't see that happening here. All I see is a simple Pro Tools _call_ to a Melodyne _function_ to do a linear translation on the selected "data." When that translation is complete, all you're left with is a bunch of standalone MIDI events in a Pro Tools track, and Melodyne no longer has any "knowledge" that any of it ever even happened. That's not ARA, as far as I'm concerned.
" Please note in the case of ARA-compatible DAWs: Since the DAW manufacturers support ARA Audio Random Access in different ways, the range of ARA functions varies from DAW to DAW. You will find details of the ARA support in the documentation of the DAW in question "
www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/editions-and-technical-matters
@@emdrstudio Thanks Jesus, I'll check out the link. Just to be clear, my beef is with Avid, not Celemony (whom I have nothing but praise and deep respect for). Avid, OTOH, seems to be content playing it safe for the benefit of their huge (important) customers, at the expense of innovation. I was appalled to realize the other day that ARA has been out for over NINE *YEARS* now, showing how late to the game Avid really is. That said, this new _partnership_ between them and Celemony provides a glimmer that Pro Tool will eventually see a more or less complete ARA implementation. I'd quite frankly given up hope.
Lol, Studio one had that since version 4. Avid is essentially playing catch up.
Protools industry standard.... Nuff said.
@@FollowerOfChrist7777 Not so much anymore. Many DAWs are used by Pros around the world. There is a Grammy Award Winning Mixing and Mastering Engineer that uses Studio One. Studio One works with Protools that's cross platform capable as you can load Protools sessions in Studio One. Grammy Producer Oak Felder uses nothing but Logic that creates beats and cuts all his clients vocals in Logic. He Produced Sorry Not Sorry entirely in Logic Pro vocals and everything.
I have Studio One 4 but not Melodyne
@@nightski380 it's in the pro edition. I currently have Studio One Pro 4.5 installed. You also have to download the melodyne setup from your Presonus account if you own the Professional edition of Studio One and install it.
@@eman0828 I think I have artist edition
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is this version of melodyne perpetual license or time limited?
There’s no limitation. 🙂
*vocaloid is quaking*
That’s what I thought too-
@@megp9id .,.
power
Studio One gang🌚
Then why are you on a pro tools video
I put a ticket on pro tools 🛠 melodyne enssetianls is not working when I open it on 2020 11.0 .I did the activation and everything it comes out a error saying 7054 🥵
If you already wrote to our Tech Support, they will certainly look into it.
Is there Melodyne in Pro tools 2020.12?
Yes, there is. 🙂
I hope You work on offline transfer in the near future, which could be much faster then to do it real time, which is a pain in the @ss, when I have to melodyne a 90 minutes concert...
Melodyne is already ready for ‘offline transfer’. This is part of our ARA technology. But of course the DAW must also support it, so in this case you should address your request to Avid. 🙂
@@celemony I don't think I would have more impact on Avid as a person, like You, as an audio company. But You can still give us back the "Spot to Pro Tools" function, which was so handy in the standalone version, that it was so much faster to work with, than the plugin. I guess this function is nothing to do with Avid, right? :)
Try 'Commit up until this insert' trick in Pro Tools. The Pro Tools Expert blog has a video on this on RUclips. " The Melodyne ARA Pro Tools hack"
please provide ARA 2 Support for Fl studio
We already provided the ARA SDK for developers. But the ARA implementation has to be done by the DAW manufacturers, not us. 🙂 Feel free to request ARA support from them.
This is Ara or not?
The Audio-to-MIDI feature that you see is already based on ARA.
@@celemony What is the difference with the Ara 2 that other user comments? I wait a long for this feature to update my protools since protools 11.
ARA allows for quite a number of features, but Audio-to-MIDI is currently the only ARA feature in Pro Tools.
Please do Logic Pro X
What do you mean?
@@celemony Do a video using Melodyne ARA in Logic . If not cool but editing chords just looked really cool . When I added Melodyne to my guitar chord , Melodyne read each chord as one note.
Hey Meek you inspired me.
@@averyburke6749 Hey 👋 That makes me so happy ! Thank you 🙏
melodyne is free?? o premium?
The latest Pro Tools version comes with a free copy of Melodyne essential. But Melodyne can also be purchased from shop.celemony.com, of course.
IN A WOOOOOORLD......
Where’s ARA peeps?
The Audio-to-MIDI feature is already based on ARA. For anything else you should contact Avid. 🙂
Protools sucks
Can I upgrade it tho? I need the audio to midi feature which this doesn't come with
Of course you can. 🙂 In fact, we currently have an upgrade sale in our shop, and you can save up to 50% on your upgrade! See here: shop.celemony.com
@@celemony can’t you answer my question please, before I buy the wrong one? I use reason(sad I know) so I can’t use vst3, is there any way to purchase melodyne 4?
@@hottroundzproductions All Melodyne editions except Melodyne essential come with the Audio-to-MIDI feature. If you need to convert polyphonic audio (i.e. chords, pianos, guitars, etc.) to MIDI, then go for Melodyne editor or Melodyne studio. Hope this helps.
@@celemony but I can do that with assistant in pro tools. The standalone allows me to see the chords/notes but not export the midi - which I need to do if I want to use it in reason which doesn’t support vst3
Yes, Melodyne assistant has a Chord Track, but you can’t export the polyphonic audio to MIDI. Only the larger Melodyne edtions can do this.
Don' install this on your machine. Unusable crap Melodyne who makes 10% than full version. Don;t waste your time
Melodyne essential is the perfect entry-level version of Melodyne. Of course, if you need more Melodyne features, you are free to upgrade to a larger Melodyne edition. But this one, after all, comes free (!) with Pro Tools. Shouldn’t be much to complain about then, should it? 😉
@@celemony perfect for you Celemony, of course
@@celemony Can I upgrade it tho? I need the audio to midi feature which this doesn't come with
@@hottroundzproductions Of course you can. 🙂 In fact, we currently have an upgrade sale in our shop, and you can save up to 50% on your upgrade! See here: shop.celemony.com
@@celemony awesome. Which version do I need to get the audio to midi feature? I can do it with essentials in pro tools but when I do it standalone it doesn’t give me the option to export as the midi it shows, only chords. Do I need to upgrade to assistant for that? Thanks!!
It’s a trap people 🤬