Why MOST 3 Dumpster Businesses FAIL
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2023
- Looking to get into the dumpster business from scratch? Hoping for a passive side hustle that nets you a nice income on the side?
Listen to the whole video to understand why I don't think that "dumpster side hustle" everyone talks about is as lucrative as you think for a side gig.
The dumpster business can be great, but it's not all hauling and balling. Sometimes you work really hard to make next to nothing. Lets take a look at what it takes to avoid that.
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Great video. I started with 3 and had to double within two months because I needed more volume. I looked at Docket and DRS. I went with DRS because at the time they offered more. They helped me grow with online booking. This business is so capital intense i feel like I need 20 dumpsters and two rolloff trucks just to make some real money.
Appreciate it. I think one curse of this business is always wishing you had more dumpsters. 😅 Good luck with your growth!
@@MAXCODumpsters …
“… curse of this business is always wishing you had more dumpsters.”
Until those rare occasions when you have few if any “out”.
I never knew a dumpster business who wouldn’t be screwed if they ever had to bring all of their dumpsters home.
What's Docket and DRS please?
Thank you.
Great analysis
I’m starting with the 3 dumpster scenario as side hustle for about 2 years till retirement from job and then ultimately full on balls to the wall more cans
Appreciate you watching. It’s tough with 3, but decent money can be made if it’s not your primary source of income! Good luck launching your business.
Many thanks for the insight.
Appreciate you checking it out. Glad it could help.
My critique on this video would be...doing 15 a month and netting 2k which is what doing right now as a side hustle is huge. I already have a 6 fig income from my job, but that 2k extra a month goes a long way in savings and that's a mortgage payment for some. Side note, my family has a farm so I dont pay for storage and I bought a 2011 6.7 F250 for 15k with 130k miles. You dont have to spend 50k on a truck to start a side business. Go cheaper, but recognize the issues with that. My monthly fixed and variable costs combined range from 1100-1300.
I didn’t make the video to discourage. Only educate. 💪 IF you can find your way into consistently getting bookings with no paid advertising and bring in an extra couple grand then go for it. It’s still not as easy as most guys make it seem. That’s all I want people to know.
I have a similar situation where I own a business that is my money maker and this was supposed to be a side hustle. I bought a used truck so my expenses were pretty low. All that being said, I am struggling with the time. I had to hire someone to drive, so my profit took a hit. Trying to see if it's even worth it, with my other company being the money maker. Any tips?
@@rickcalderon5395 how many dumpsters do you have and how many rentals are you turning right now?
@@MAXCODumpsters started with 3 but needed more to keep up with demand, now have 8.
@@rickcalderon5395 Definitely a tougher call when you have an employee to take care of. I'd say if you're hearts not in it then move on, but if you think you can get passionate about it then 8 is plenty of dumpsters to turn a profit.
$3900/month profit wont even pay the bills. Seems like a lot of work and could make more as an employee.
I agree. When you factor in the risk and potential for ups and downs this industry really doesn’t make you any money unless you have a decently large inventory and a hell of an advertising campaign.
Great video
Thanks Indio! Hope it helps. 💪
Love your style i iam in tampa Flo to iam looking to start in the n 3 months
Good luck Sam! It’s not easy, but if your wise in your decisions and willing to outwork the others around you, it can be a great business!
Good advice! We offer many services as we can survive with lack of production.
My question is: would you recommend starting with a used setup or go ahead with a brand new set?
It all depends on the deals you can get around you. A year ago all the used equipment was at a premium. Now there’s a lot more people exiting and selling off gear, but a lot of the real desirable set ups may be harder to track down preowned.
I do prefer new just to avoid other people’s headaches, but lightly used is not always a bad call.
@@MAXCODumpsters thank you for the input.
I was looking to save some money. I looked at a used set. The winch cable was shredded , that tells me the winch was under a lot of stress.
That steered me to buy new.
@@zacharyking8329 if you are going with a trailer set up shoot me a DM on insta/fb. I’ll set you in the right direction.
Dumps here where I live in PA are $115 minimum and that's up to a ton. So if you have a ton you pay $115 if you have a pillow that weighs 1LB you pay $115. The price only goes up not down. Transfer stations won't touch anyone with a GVWR of more than 10K. My only question with your math is the time estimate. You said on average you go 15 miles. Where do you live that it takes 3 hours to drive to and from 15 miles? Even 70 miles like you reference for the total rental. I can do that in maybe an hour maybe an hour 20 pulling. The efficiency of picking up and dropping off too. Obviously, the more experience you have the faster you get at it but you figure 10 to 15 mins tops to drop off and pick up so 20 to 30 mins so all in an hour and 45 I don't see the other 1 hour and 15 mins. I've been to my local dump a lot and never spent more than 30 mins there in and out. I feel like 3 hours is the exception, not the rule. Unless you are renting to people who are like 50 miles away which is dumb for a side hustle gig.
Do they require a permit or something?
Great video.
Is my 2004 Lincoln navigator enough?
Thank you everyone.
You’ll probably need/want to upgrade to a larger towing/payload truck for dumpster rentals, but you could start with a utility trailer and do some junk removal with the Navigator! Good luck.
These videos have been really helpful man. Thank-you!! Question for you, you've mentioned that you use Your Docket for scheduling. Do you know how much of your business is booked through the software vs. through phone contact? With phone contact, do you have someone dedicated to just manning phone calls?
Significantly more book over the phone, but I’d say I get at least a couple every month that I’ve never spoken with and wake up to a fresh order. A LOOOT of people will go to the site > select what they want at the price they can agree with > call and confirm availability as well as make sure I’m a legit business. I’m working toward being a more “futuristic” experience, where people can get a dumpster the way they like. Today most people want to make sure they’re not swindled, but 5 years from now I hope the brand stands on its own and does in the realm of 80%+ of its business with purely online orders. I currently take all the phone calls the business gets.
@@MAXCODumpsters, I'm learning a lot from your content. Thank-you for the help!
@@therealrb7 glad it can help!
So I get a lot of business for dumpster rental in a city where I don’t live (actually across the country from me) . I get these dumpster leads from another business I have . So I was curious how should I go about this seeing as I physically can’t be there . How to find an operator or maybe find a partner instead that already has knowledge in the industry. Any advice would be much appreciated
Who are you using for an insurance broker, I’m in Sarasota and am having one heck of a time getting better insurance? Seems like you saved some money
Been with Progressive a little while now. Always shop insurance yearly at least!
Eventually the equipment will get paid off as the years go by hopefully paying more than just minimum but that would be added to your profit once paid off another silver lining you own it.
You’re not wrong, but that mindset will keep you broke in business. Maintenance, tires, registrations, taxes… it all adds up. Thanks for watching.
@@MAXCODumpsters Not to mention little minor oops factors; hit a rim, $100 +, tire $265, tarp for auto tarp system, new axle or spindle replacement $1500 +, new winch $2000 plus labor. Great video! Thank you.
@@timjames8416 you’re not kidding!
Yup you pretty much need 5 or more dumpsters just to break Even And around 10 dumpsters to really start making a profit. And a living
I’d say that’s pretty spot on. 🤘
@@MAXCODumpsters I just know from experience I have 31 dumpsters total, 26 roll-off containers and 5 dump trailers for the dumpster rental portion of my business.
Can we get a link to those CRMs?
If you go to yourdocket dot com you’ll find Docket, and if you google “Dumpster Rental Systems” you’ll find DRS.
Is a Federal DOT # required for this business? I went to the FMCSA website, and it is unclear to me. It almost seems you don't need it, because you are hauling your own property. Thanks
Potentially, but not necessarily. In Florida it’s only required if crossing state lines or over 26k GVWR. It’s best to call your states DOT office and confirm.
@@MAXCODumpsters Yeah, that is the way I read it here to in KY. I will call to verify. Thanks for the quick response and thanks for these videos. Helping me out on making decisions to do this or not. Appreciate it!
🤘Glad I can help.
Your for hire a us dot is definitely required. Using for personal use no. Under 26k still need a us dot intra-state authority only if staying in state
Is the $ 325 rental fee 3 days or 7 days ?
In the context of the video it doesn’t matter. Everyone’s market/rates will be different across the country as will each companies costs. I’m simply trying to show a way to do pricing and an equation for how to look at your whole month’s worth of cost/profit. If you look at it as a 7 day rental, that would mean 3 dumpsters can only be turned 12 times in the month.
What about taxes on your profit?
I didn’t talk taxes for a few reasons - they vary far to much between states, there’s a million and one things I don’t know, and with a proper accountant most first year businesses will outspend their earnings when you deduct your purchases. I’d definitely consult an accountant for any tax questions. I’m not the right guy for anything beyond the basics there.
Thank you for watching!
You dont charge the customer for gas and dumpster fee?
I’ve changed the way I do my pricing countless times since I started, but generally speaking my price includes delivery up to a certain distance (10 miles currently) with either 0 or some amount of tonnage included with additional weight billed after.
Hooklift is the only way and 20 can pay cash then it's all profit if you don't have cash it's not the business for you
I’d agree that you need cash for this business for sure! I don’t think that a hook lift is the only way however. It is certainly the most efficient, but there’s plenty of ways to get the job done. Thanks for watching!
I wish I had a truck between 40/50k with a payment of 1k lol…. Just ordered a 2023 ram 3500 for $114k and my payments will end up being high 1500’s/month and that’s with good credit…. Lenders aren’t willing to give good rates like the old days( pre Covid)
If you get the 12” screen, leather, and all the gadgets you can definitely start driving a small mortgage payment if your not careful. 🤣 Thanks for watching!
@@MAXCODumpsters the base trim is still around 84k with minimal options. The truck market is crazy.
@@Subi_doo I totally understand. I sold CJDR for all of 2021 before starting this business. I watched $50k trucks with $10k incentives turn into $60k trucks with $10k mark ups in no time at all. I was lucky enough to use it to my advantage though. Traded my TRD Tacoma at peak value and bought my first 2500 for a pretty crazy deal the month before all the “chip shortage” talks. Enjoy your new Ram. They’re freaking incredible these days.
@@MAXCODumpsters I’m about to change my order. I’m not sure the Ram will cut it. I just got my military grant to go to CDL school. Im going to get the CDL, and I want a truck that can handle a GCWR of 45000lbs. Im starting this business, again beciase the first time I was not legal due to very bad youtube information, so I stopped before I got in trouble. This go around, I’m creating a specialty service where I will accept dirt, slate, concrete, construction waste and moving into heavy stuff to create a segment that’s 1 step above the average roll off business.
@@Subi_doo my 2 cents is scrap the order all together. You can get a completely finished brand new 26k GVWR F650 hooklift and have the best of both worlds for about $120-$130k. Not the best concrete hauler, but would get you in business and making money. You can always buy the semi class concrete hauler later.
What about paying for you Inc? Your company has to pay you a check to cover all personal bills
Depending on how you establish your business will determine the legal requirements on how you take money from the business. As an LLC I am entitled to take an "Owners Draw" as much or as little as I want. Most smaller dumpster companies should establish this way because it gives you maximum flexibility until you understand what kind of money to expect from the business. You can choose to not touch it and grow the business or take every penny and enjoy the fruits of your labor.
I guess everyone and their mother is in this business now ?
Did your mother start a dumpster company?