BACK IN THE DAY: EPISODE 5 | THE WALDBAUM'S FIRE
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2020
- On Aug. 2, 1978, the FDNY responded to a fire in a supermarket at 2892 Ocean Ave. in the Sheepshead Bay section of Brooklyn. This was a landmark fire in the FDNY and prompted a sea change in the way we approach fires involving trusses. Six firefighters died in the line of duty when the roof of a burning Brooklyn supermarket collapsed, plunging 12 firefighters into the flames. The name of the fire is simply Waldbaum's.
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Got my first scanner in August 78, just before this fire. I remember turning on the radio that morning and hearing the incident from Dyker Heights. Too far to copy mixer off messages on an indoor antenna. In Sept of that year I started high school and the kid next to me and I started talking about listening to FDNY. His Dad was a Battalion aide. That kid was Vincent Kane E22. Spin forward a lot of years to 2001 and i see his photo in the paper as one of the 343 lost that day. RIP Vinnie and thank you. Still listening to FDNY, though these days via a phone app from miles away.
I remember this day.. Worked for Waldbaum's in Queens at the time.
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I remember being taught about the dangers of truss roofs and this fire in particular when I went through the academy in Florida in 1982. I was actually a medic in Manhattan in 1978 and remember when this happened. Another great podcast. You brothers rock
Great shows, funny, informative, straight forward. I watched all of them. Love the FDNY. Great History lessons.
Never stop this.
Guys, I love these “Back in the Day” shows...I see these as a valuable training exercise with FD humor thrown in. Love it, keep it up
"Don't trust the truss." Love the show brothers. Keep up the great work.
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@Luna Zelman Nobody cares, definitely not from a 3rd world peasant with a name like yours.
Hey guys, I stumbled upon your show a short while ago, and absolutely love it! I am now retired from the fire service after working on the West Coast. I love the stories and the information you bring to the table from the East Coast. Excellent job reviewing this unfortunate incident regarding the collapse of that roof with the Bowstring trusses. Fortunately they do not appear to be used in the new construction anymore out here, but we still run into them on older buildings. I think that every Department should adopt that same policy of not putting people on roofs with bowstring trusses. If you can vent them from an areal ladder great or platform that is fine, but it is far to risky to allow firefighters to work while on them. Trusses in general, are hazardous enough, but those are even worse. Thanks for the show and keep up the good work my brothers.
Thank you for reviewing this fire. We can learn from history and save lives.
Excellent segment. Your video will be used for training and save lives.
One observation, Some of our fatal fire jobs have happened at the change of tours . The WTC 9-11 and Waldbaums are among the many.
If you are a firefighter relieved from duty notify your officer. Even let officer know early in tour that you are getting early relief. Then let them know when leaving. Cross your name off riding list and put relieving members name.If you are a detail or on overtime in another unit introduce yourself so they know who you are.
We dont want brothers putting themselves in a precarious situation ; the officer not knowing where you are or members looking for you when you aren’t even on scene .
If your an officer, always conduct a roll call at the beginning of the tour. Doesn’t have to be a fall in count off one but do one . In front of rig , apron or in the kitchen. Know the guys working and make sure they know you .
Get home safe and stay healthy.
Great video. My cousin is William O'Connor I never met him I was born in 1981 but is was great hearing the story of what happened now that I'm older and understand more
Nice job guys. The lightening round was a relief from a very heavy cast. Very informative.
Brilliant shows guys, look forward to each show, I'm in the job in the uk, interesting to see how you do stuff over the pond. 👍
Awesome job as always. I have almost caught up on all the shows after I was turned on to the show. I have always had a fondness for the FDNY. My station actually has a beam from the World Trade mounted in front of our station.
Hey guys, I found this video after telling my wife about the Waldbaums fire. I was 11 at the time living in Brooklyn. Just a note about how bad the smoke from this fire was - my family and I were in our backyard and suddenly there was this strong smoke smell. The whole block was out in the street trying to figure out what was on fire. The key was we lived in Midwood, not actuality near the fire. Word of mouth started going around about where the fire was, we couldn't believe it was all the way down in Sheepshead Bay. Then of course hearing about what happened was just shocking. Hard to believe it was so long ago.
The LAFD fire had a great Capt. from Station 9 that ordered everyone out just in time..He sensed the conditions were going south early on.. good instincts. The rig got cooked too..
Sad I missed the stream tonight. Keep up the good work brothers, best podcast out there!
Great Show Guys!! I'm going to use this for our training night.
Really enjoy your podcast almost caught up with all of them thank you for your service and keep up the good work.
Much appreciated!
Thanks for the great show. Using this for training next week.
Corner of Ocean & Y is a city street sign declaring it Fireman's Corner! this can be seen on google maps, looks like they slapped a new roof on and now a Staples is there.
You guys are are the best you really could make movies out of these stories, f*** Backdraft these stories would be way better.
I lived a few miles away in E. Flatbush the day of this awful tragedy. I was 19 years-old and without a car, so I rode over on a friend's 10-speed bike, but wished I hadn't. About 10 minutes after arriving, I remember seeing one of the firemen's helmeted heads disappear from the top of facade, as the collapse took place. I almost vomited as I stood across the street on Ocean Ave, in total disbelief, knowing I'd probably just witnessed a man's death. Not sure if all who fell through the roof perished, but I also remember the hole in the side of the building on Ave. Y, where they removed the dead firemen. Since then, I've learned to say a prayer and avert my eyes. Gawking at a fire, car accident or other life threatening situation does no one any good. RIP.
Got to watch it but the chat wouldn't load so I couldn't get in on the lightning round! Theres always next time!
I was 13 when this happened. My Dad was in R2. Don Healy. At 50:19 of the video, Jack Kleehaus and Jack Pritchard are being discussed as operating the whole time. They were. They saved my Dad’s life. That’s him on the stretcher. Guess who dragged him out of there unconscious one time each. Those two. I remember them and Pete Bondi as 11 foot tall giants roaming the earth. I remember them like I remember Lee Ielpi and John Vigiano. God bless their sons.
The sheet rock on the trusses was to create fire walls in the cockloft.
I was there. It added to my already miserable young life.
Currently a staples . It’s got a Plaqe on the wall if you look around.
Is that right? Lou
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You can tell where the hole was on the Ave Y side. The bricks look different
Yes, now a Staples, the replaced bricks are clearly visible to this day.
Can you talk about the turnout gear verses back in the day and now
You guys should have Vincent Dunn on and talk about the Wonder Drugs fire
www.fdnysbravest.com/Walbaum38thAnniversaryFinal.pdf .....if you guys want to see a great report on this fire. The Boys
Never trust a truss
Today, the same foolishness still exists. Most firefighters on a roof are accomplishing nothing to perform a tactic that almost never accomplishes something useful.
Don’t trust the truss. They collapse so easily if they are not fireproofed with concrete. Also were what allowed the Trade Center to have an open floor plan
Lightweight construction is even worse. These guys were operating half an hour. The Lightweight trusses? You're lucky if they last ten minutes once the fire starts eating them.