Well it was the mistake that “broke the camel’s back” so to speak. As a mom, it’s easy to take unacceptable behavior towards myself. But mess with my kids, and I’m coming for you! 🐻
He was completely tested her loyalty. He wanted to be reassured that she would break all her values for him. And then SURPRISED PIKATU FACE she absolutely would not.
He is so GROSS! I cannot believe he left those three hard-working amazing women for Lazy Bones Sobbin Robyn! He really is very ignorant. Cannot wait until she takes him to the cleaners!
I don’t know what gave Kody the idea he is all that. He is average sort of cute. He certainly isn’t a stud. He acts like the original wives are unattractive and are lucky to have been with him. How did that asshole get that idea?
I have always thought, from the very beginning, that Janelle was such a good dad/provider with a more masculine energy...and Christine was such a good mom/caregiver to ALL the kids of the family! Janelle is more logical, and good at finances and budgeting...and Christine is more empathetic, and good at nurturing and reaching kids on their level. Great team!!!
Are they though? Or are they the least despicable of all five failing parents?? To name just one example. Janelle would rather go see a movie than go home to her six children and help Christine. she must have known that Christine was totally overwhelmed. If you’re not into children, then why in the world have six of them? Knowing that their baby daddy isn’t around?
Bringing up Christine was simply an emotional manipulation he hoped would force Janelle to feel bad for him and not make him even more upset, with her demands and disapoinments. In fact, I think he wanted her to comfort him. What an idiot.
Kody’s convo with Janelle in this episode was the icing on the shit cake he tried to feed her on their earlier fight. He does not let her talk and screams that she doesn’t let him talk. He’s taken her financial resources and then accuses her (or suggested in his couch interview) that she’s just with him for the money?!! He goes on and on about his divorce from Christine and then when you think he’s done, he goes on even more while Janelle sits quietly while this meeting is supposed to be about HER relationship with him, not Christine’s. What a slap in the face. When he said at the beginning, “I’m just not a safe place for you to have a conversation”, she should have stood up and walked away. BOUNCE, Janelle! 🤦🏻♀️
I agree completely! She should’ve stood up and said, “Thank you for telling me. Please call me when you feel like you ARE ready to have this conversation.” Then she should have walked out.
Janelle needs to walk out on this creep. Shut him down right away. It was a public place so he can't rage on her. The fake friendliness was grotesque. @@mariabunch3541
It reminded me of the first and only date I ever had with this guy. Who could not stop talking about his ex. Bro, not now read the room. This is so much worse. They were actually married. 100% agree with you. He thought she was going to fall at his feet. Boy bye
I would not have hugged him. He didn't call or come by her apartment for 6 weeks. Janelle might have cooled off, but she still should have maintained her distance to let him know that she is no longer going to shrugg off his behavior.
Janelle and Christine basically had no choice but to team up because Kody and Robyn teamed up and shoved everyone else out. I’m really glad Christine and Janelle have each other and their kids to support them because it’s got to be scary starting over at 50.
What really got me is the fact that Cody wouldn't shut up an let Jenelle complete a sentence, and all the sudden he's picked up a stutter 😂😂😂😂 Why is it that alot of men only have children for 18yrs. but a woman has children for life ?
Unbelievable. Imagine if Christine went back to Kody...he'd spend the rest of their lives reminding her what a wonderful husband he to take someone "unattractive" back into the fold. 🙄
I noticed that he asked her at least 3 times 'how are you'? In a span of about 1:30 minutes. And she never asked him how he was. You could tell that he was feeling awkward. He was hoping that she would just overlook the tension and act like nothing was wrong. Kreepy Kody has arrested development.
SW contributions: Christine: rised the OG 13 kids, planned all the family gatherings, cooked most of the food, all while holding down a job Jeanelle: worked full time, contributed to the family coffers, managed the family finances Meri: worked full time, contributed to the family coffers Robyn: in spite of not working, she needs a nanny, and it could not be Christine, money out the window. Spent THOUSANDS on Dickens porcelain figurines. Took most of the family recources, in exchange for wetting Kody's pencil
It has reached the point of emotional abuse. This is beyond a show. What Kody has said to these women. Can honestly damage their soul. Can take years to heal from. effect many areas of their life.
Also, financial abuse. Janelle gave half of the money from the sale of her Las Vegas home so that he could have his home with Robin and she is living in an apartment. He didn't care where she lived with their children but got angry that she didn't consult him about buying the 5th wheel.
You can tell the reason Christine is so insecure about dating is because Kody wounded her so deeply by saying cruel things to her to keep her under his control. He thought if he could make his wives feel unworthy of anything better they would never leave.
Kody talking about them all day long about them to other wives cause he thinks they are too stupid to know he does this with all the wives, Kody thought telling Janelle he is not attracted to Christine would make Janelle feel special! Augh he is not a man, he's a coward
Did y’all see the look Janelle gave when Kody started his rant about not knowing Christine was really going to leave him. He “said” he had no idea. Janelle’s face said, “Are you serious?” And looked down at the table in disbelief.😂😂😂. And Kody never picked up on the fact that Janelle is on to his bill shit.
This episode left me gobsmacked! From Kody's behaviour from the moment he entered the restaurant, to his constant referencing of Christine, to not letting Janelle finish a thought. Arrogance on steroids. I was so proud of Janelle's behaviour and that she didn't let him off the hook when referring to her kids, especially Savannah. I agree 100% with your analysis of this episode.
Kody looked drained. Like he realizes his goose is cooked. Who is going to fund Robyn’s lifestyle she has become accustomed to now? Not him. He doesn’t work for a living. He is accustomed to sponging off the OG wives.
@@sarahshannon760 I want to improve what I say because she has such a good way of voicing things without name calling or even point scoring. Christine can be a little snarky which is fun to watch but not necessarily something you want to replicate in your own life.
One of my mom’s good friends said about 25 years ago that so many people ask her about whether or not she was lonely and why she was still single. She was probably a few years older than I am now. She said “I’ve been more lonely in relationships than I have with no man in my life.” That was before her kids left the house. I’ve always remembered that.
Proud that Janelle is realizing her worthy. From her Instagram act she looks so happy & living her best life now finding her freedom from narcissist Kody. Team Janelle❤
Kody is like the cobra in Jungle Book. He used his soft voice and looked her in the eye and tries to lure her into the cult again. However, Janelle has seen Christine, the least valued and most pitied by Kody and Robyn, flourish after leaving Kody. She’s ready to bet on herself and open the door to the Technicolor world outside Coyote Pass
James, I think he knows it's important for him to have a relationship with his kids, and he purposely doesn't, knowing it's gonna be a deal breaker in his relationships with his OG3. He knows. He's playing that card hoping they'll take offense to it and react. It's the same with the money. He accuses Janelle of wanting him for his finances because he knows that over the decades she's the one worried about finances. He know that statement is not true and will irritate her, it's done on purpose. With Christine he said she never tried to have good relationships with the other sister wives. Because he knows she was the one who threw the parties, organized the social stuff for the whole family. He knows with that statement to Christine is gonna hurt her because she was all about the social part of the family. He's hurting each of them where he knows it'll hurt the most. He took first wife status away from Meri because he knew that's where it would hurt her the most.
I completely dispute that Christine was not very clear about leaving. On the other hand even if she did not, what end result did he think would happen when he wanted a non-intimate marriage? Why is this such a shock, I can only suppose he's a slow learner
Exactly...she only told the entire nation for over 10 YEARS that she needed him to equalize the marriages and was NOT happy with his behavior. We ALL knew this was coming. Then add him choosing to not sleep with her and KABOOM, he pushed her over tje edge. Men always say their divorce BLINDSIDED them, caught them off guard, and shocked them when their wives gave them 1,000 warnings and 1,000 chances before cutting the cord. Men need to WAKE UP and women need to get faster at cutting the cord to these jerks.
Kody is SO VERY focused on himself and Robyn. He doesn't contribute much of anything, not to anyone but Robyn who is using him, IMHO. He couldn't care less about Janelle or Meri or Christine.
I watched seasons 1-5 of Sister Wives when the show was first aired, and I stopped watching, except a random episode here and there, for YEARS because I couldn't handle how Kody treated his wives and kids. I've come back into the fold only since season 17 because I was so excited about them leaving him, FINALLY. I just think everyone deserves so much more than what any of the wives, other than Robyn, get from Kody.
Unfortunately, Kody can't allow her to finish a sentence long enough for her to express her concerns. Kody is the smartest, most important, most insightful person Kody knows. Everyone else should listen to him so they can understand what's important 🙄
Janelle seemed like she was happy just being in the background as a support player and it is really about time that she takes the lead in her life. I think she justified staying for her kids until that realization struck her too….all this time she has really been a single parent. She’s had to be both mother and father to all of her kids and will probably have to continue to be so.
I agree, sometimes if we become too low maintenance people tend to forget that you have expectations too and get all shocked and offended when you speak up.
You’re right. I think she’s realizing that not only has Cody not been an asset in her kids lives for a long time, he’s actually been a detriment… An obstacle they must overcome.
Kody and Janelle have always had on and off separations. We can tell that Kody sees Janelle as a Friend and not a Wife. Kody expected for Janelle to fall back in line and he was shocked that she isn’t playing his games anymore. Kody walked in thinking she would roll over and obey. Nope! I’m so proud of Janelle for putting herself and her kids 1st!
Yes! Honesty, finally. Kody has controlled these women to lie for the paycheck. Enough of this baloney! Janelle has been so quiet until now. Where Christine was the family nurturer, Janelle was the hard working, financial/sacrifice/whole family structure foundation. It was actually her children who finally convinced her of her worth. She is way too good for Kody. She and Christine worked together to raise the family despite a lazy, neglectful “patriarch.” It is beautiful to see her stepping into her own, working out how to get the value out of their financial investments and find her best life. ❤❤❤
Well said! I'd also add how truly beautiful it is that, having realised their own worth, Janelle and Christine have also realised each other's worth, too (Janelle has realised how awesome Christine is, and vice versa). So to see them being really good friends and moving on to greener pastures, without leaving the other one behind, is so satisfying! I bet it's driving Kody mad that they are having a happy relationship without him and he can't manipulate them any more, but the reality is that these ladies held the family together without him, know they don't need him, but also that they can rely on each other, and are able to give each other the support they need as they move on to a future without Kody and his horrific 4th wife.
One more thing. Why do we all say her kids. The kids belong to both the mom and dad. They are just as much his kids as they are hers! He has no concept of family.
As a minority I know what "you're so well spoken" reads like but you're INCREDIBLY articulate, insightful but down to earth & funny as hell, its refreshing and necessary and most of all comforting to hear a man saying it, I make sure to catch the new episodes because I like listening to youre reaction and look forward to them!!
At some point Kody will realize he threw away 3 functioning relationship and the children attached. When he does the devastation will be epic. Then hes going to notice Robyns culpability. Wouldnt want to be him or her when it happens.
@dianneloveland3728 is absolutely right. That's why everything that goes wrong is someone else fail. But,anything that looks a little positive it all about him who made it happen. Kody is absolutely the mentally and emotionally deadbeat for everyone other than Robin and her kids. Funny thing to me is that Robin now has to put up with kody 27/7/365. And I don't think Robin will be able to handle it if kody can't bring in all the money she wants. Because Robin and Kodys ideal of being rich is different. Robin wants material items, kody see the dollar amount. Robin spends and kody counts. How long can she hold on if he stops her material flow?
@dianneloveland3728 HG Tudor analyzing Kody would be fun. But yeah, Kody's narcissism is pretty obvious. My ex husband shares a lot of similarities so it's been interesting for me to watch
the most frustrating and painful part of narcissists is they actually don’t ever get it or have the “ahh haa moment of clarity“ it’s by far the most frustrating thing. i have a psychiatric, diagnosed mother, with narcissistic personality disorder, as well as a diagnosed ex spouse and father to my son who’s got narcissistic personality disorder. my moms in her 80s dying and solely dependent upon me to survive, pay her bills, etc. and she’s improved none. if anything i’d say it’s only progressed. same with my ex. they can’t get it or see it. even when they loose absolutely everything and have hit rock bottom. smh
I have always thought, from the very beginning, that Janelle was such a good dad/provider with a more masculine energy...and Christine was such a good mom/caregiver to ALL the kids of the family! Janelle is more logical, and good at finances and budgeting...and Christine is more empathetic, and good at nurturing and reaching kids on their level. Great team!!!
It just makes me so angry that Janelle gave this useless man 4 sons and 2 daughters and he wrote them off in a heartbeat! Christine’s 6 children as well! Couldn’t just pick up the phone and wish any of them a Merry Christmas or a Happy Birthday! This is a man whose pencil,as he puts it,has ruled him since the beginning.This is a man that had to have denied his children,at least some of them,his name on their birth certificates so their mothers could collect welfare and food stamps and still they were eating ketchup on day old bread from the bread store.And you know that had to have happened more than once for the children to remember it.Good grief! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know,”Don’t have more children than you can feed!” This man didn’t just turn his back on his children when they turned 18 …he turned his back right from the beginning and I’m willing to bet that Cody never ate day old bread slathered in ketchup! 🤬🤬🤬
You really give good life advice, and I think it's encouraging to know that just because you are feeling stuck or drowning one day, doesn't mean you can't set yourself fee, and swim up to the surface the next. It's true sometimes you have to let people go, just because you may have known them for decades doesn't mean they are good for you, or with you. Kody walked in there and tried the love bombing and tried to be a Hoover to suck her in, but she stood her ground. I respect that!
100%. I said it too. Every single day you wake up and draw breath it's an opportunity to fix the things you think need to be fixed and Kody has literally handed out every excuse in the book in order to cover his own ass when it came to not making ammends to Janelle and to not address the issues with the kids. His attitude in all of this is so warped and stupid. Janelle is not there because Kody has "nice pecs" and "6 pack abs" and for him to state that,that's all she interested in is ridiculous! He's treated her horribly,he's been deliberately neglectful to her kids,and he's ignored her needs in order to fulfill Robyn's. Yes,Janelle is low maintance but there's a difference between low maintance and no maintance and,"Long time no see."? That's not the response you give to your wife and the mother of your children! Look at Janelle's body language. You can see it from the very moment he sat down with her. Janelle was very guarded and the arms crossed and all that is someone pulling into themselves for protection. Simply put Kody has spent years treating Janelle like crap and she was okay because in truth Janelle didn't require the level of upkeep that Christine,Meri and Robyn require so he's okay with giving her the bare minimum and if this idiot thinks that this all comes back to his pecs and his abs he's missed the entire point as to why Janelle is pissed at him. He's treating their children badly and that's where Janelle's issue begins and ends. He may have been right that she wanted to leave and that he thought she would reconsile with him but the fact is he's going to have to do some work if he wants her back and other then catering to Robyn,working in his relationships is not something Kody's horrifically good at.
I can say that the lockdowns showed me who cares about me. Even my dad told me he wouldn't help me. I am physically and mentally ill and noone wanted anything to do with me. It's not the first time an event has revealed what people are made of in my orbit. COVID made people choose what mattered most to them. Kody choose Robyn and her family.
Kody uses words like "gaslight," "transmute," and "trigger" without having any idea what they really mean. Reminds me of Robyn's "pink elephant in the room". What a couple of mental giants they are. I'd hate to live in their heads. As always, James, your analysis is perfection!
Its crazy to me that people broke up due to covid and being shut in with their partners and kids, i loved spending more time with my husband and kids it was something that work never allowed us, but those 3 months of lock down brought us closer and were so fun at the house, we gardened together, we hiked together, we rode bikes together, we made paintings together, we read books together, we cooked together, we were making memories that we couldnt do when we went back to work and school in person full-time
James, you’re bringing all the facts per usual. 👏🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I sooooo wish Janelle would’ve actually said those things to Kody face to face while at the restaurant. I’m sure there’s a level of not wanting to poke the narcissistic bear……so I can understand why she wouldn’t want to do that. And maybe it’s a safety thing…..(we don’t know what goes on when the cameras turn off) 🥴. I just really hope in time she can set his ass straight face to face. He needs to hear all of it. Yes, he’ll more than likely gaslight TF out of her per usual…..but at least she could get him told and get it off her chest.
I honestly think Kody is going to regret what he lost and will start resenting Robin and blaming her cause we know he never takes responsibility for his own actions. Robin is about to see what it's like for the other wives. She never encouraged his relationships with the other wives and kids. How could she not make Kody go to Ysabels surgery. That was low of her.
In excessively paternalistic religions, like the one the Brown family is part of, there is the expectation that women will always prioritize their "headship" over their children. So Kody 100% believes that the entire family revolves around him because that's what their faith dictates. So when Christine chose her children over him, he was angry and confused. He couldn't understand why refusing to help Ysabel was a deal breaker for Christine. Because, as far as he was concerned, she was in the wrong in that situation because she defied Kody. And now, we see his relationship with Janelle imploding for the same reason. Kody says "You have to obey me at the expense of your children" and Janelle's, like, "Nah..."
For someone who has an ego as big as Kody does, he sure does act like a huge wuss in front of the world. Whining about Christine, his COVID fear, and how he reacted to getting COVID. It's a huge contrast in his personality and really confuses me.
What pushed Janelle over the edge was watching Christine say ENOUGH. The thought that Christine would be an ally furthered her zeal. ( And possibly, having TLC involved on some projects, which would give her the Estate she dearly wanted.)
I have never seen a RUclipsr say anything about having Kody’s back. 100% of comments are so very negative and people basically hate him and his treatment of the family. Kody will be forced into disappearing.
Amazing commentary James!!! He thought he could come in love bombing and Janelle would just roll over for him. Nope!!! 🎉 She's talking about their marriage and their kids, and all he could do was babble about Christine! SMH
You are so on point with everything you say I feel lifted up just hearing you speak. You also really know how to turn a phrase and make me laugh. It’s a real shame Kody has 18 kids but doesn’t know the first thing about being a parent and doesn’t care enough to learn.
Janelle is saying there is NO point of reconciliation in their cycle. They just meet again, nothing is discussed, nothing changes, they pretend to have come to an agreement. No wonder Kody enjoys Janelle, he can bulldoze right over her and her kids.
I thought she looked uncomfortable doing it. Perhaps she felt like she had to since he asked on camera? She has admitted in the past that she would rather avoid conflict. Her body language didn't look open or receptive, more like a kid whose mom is making them hug a distant relative that they barely remember.
James, you are hilarious. I enjoyed seeing Kody stunned by Janelle's indifference and hearing your comments about the episode. I have been waiting for Janelle to realize her value and have some self-respect. Cody is cruel, and I wish the show would be canceled. It would be great if there was a spin-off with just Christine and Janelle and their families.
It would be a boundary and a line in the sand if Janelle would tell Kody that! She slumps in her chair, her voice is quivering and when Kody reacts to her attempts to address her needs she looks like a scolded child. Then, she gets in the Kody train and starts discussing his narcissistic narrative manipulation. I squeaks out Suvanna name once, then back to Kodys needs and issues. Then, Kody throws her a bone…. I want to kiss you… she looks like Meri at the mention of some type of affection…. School girl. Sad. Sad.
What you said about Covid was dead on--seeing people in their true form (esp under pressure) and removing all the typical distractions. It ended a lot of relationships. It's equally true that it strengthened some relationships--the removal of distractions slowed things down and gave people time to spend quality time together again--couples and families.
Kody and Robin are nothing more than sleazy con man. They knowingly treated the OG’s like dirt continuously. Yet, are OK taking from them financially. They are kidding themselves. If they think they would be anywhere without Janelle, her constant financial contributions. To the well-being of the family.
Janelle is a smart capable woman she doesn’t need Kody. Kody is a user. He never treated Christine right. He broke Mari when he divorced her, she has never been the same. I’m sorry Janelle’s money is in Robyn’s house. Robyn hasn’t had a job the whole marriage. When you take a good look at the size and age of Robyn’s house, at the art on her walls the woodwork the excess in her garage and her laundry room that’s all money that should have been shared with the sister wives.
Gosh it’s crazy when you say something that I’ve said to parent my children. Love watching you’re videos because you give such good life advice not just sister wives recap ❤ You’re my favourite creator! Free therapy session every week 😂
Love the whole talk, but the essence of it is crystallized in this one (para) phrase: I would give someone the shirt off of my back, but not if they just want to see me naked. That is it…. A word. The message. Perfection 🙌🏼
His mistake was treating her children badly. That was the line he stepped over.
Well it was the mistake that “broke the camel’s back” so to speak.
As a mom, it’s easy to take unacceptable behavior towards myself. But mess with my kids, and I’m coming for you! 🐻
He was completely tested her loyalty. He wanted to be reassured that she would break all her values for him. And then SURPRISED PIKATU FACE she absolutely would not.
Easiest way to drive her away!
yes
@@Hart-Stringsnot only am I coming for you- I'M OUT FOR BLOOD!!!!
Kody believed that after her 6 week punishment Janelle was just going to fall back in line like she was supposed to. I think he was shocked.
Agreed
That fool didn’t take into account how he treated her he thought it was perfectly OK
100%
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Kody strutted in there and stood there like he was presenting himself to Janelle as “eye candy”. He really is full of himself. 🤮
Ikr, narcissist scum.. yuk
Ikr. Gross
😂 FR! He really did that and confirmed it when he said Janelle wants him for his body 💀
He is so GROSS! I cannot believe he left those three hard-working amazing women for Lazy Bones Sobbin Robyn! He really is very ignorant. Cannot wait until she takes him to the cleaners!
I don’t know what gave Kody the idea he is all that. He is average sort of cute. He certainly isn’t a stud. He acts like the original wives are unattractive and are lucky to have been with him. How did that asshole get that idea?
Janelle snd Christine are an unconventional, but, excellent parenting pair. The are the heart of the family.
I read a comment where Christine was the heart & Janelle was the backbone which I think fits them really well.
@@ceciliabrown6341 🎯
I have always thought, from the very beginning, that Janelle was such a good dad/provider with a more masculine energy...and Christine was such a good mom/caregiver to ALL the kids of the family!
Janelle is more logical, and good at finances and budgeting...and Christine is more empathetic, and good at nurturing and reaching kids on their level. Great team!!!
Are they though? Or are they the least despicable of all five failing parents?? To name just one example. Janelle would rather go see a movie than go home to her six children and help Christine. she must have known that Christine was totally overwhelmed. If you’re not into children, then why in the world have six of them? Knowing that their baby daddy isn’t around?
@@Sandra-Gibora well, she got her reward, any child she was allowed to nurture still gives her love
and loyalty.
Bringing up Christine was simply an emotional manipulation he hoped would force Janelle to feel bad for him and not make him even more upset, with her demands and disapoinments. In fact, I think he wanted her to comfort him. What an idiot.
Kody’s convo with Janelle in this episode was the icing on the shit cake he tried to feed her on their earlier fight. He does not let her talk and screams that she doesn’t let him talk. He’s taken her financial resources and then accuses her (or suggested in his couch interview) that she’s just with him for the money?!! He goes on and on about his divorce from Christine and then when you think he’s done, he goes on even more while Janelle sits quietly while this meeting is supposed to be about HER relationship with him, not Christine’s. What a slap in the face. When he said at the beginning, “I’m just not a safe place for you to have a conversation”, she should have stood up and walked away. BOUNCE, Janelle! 🤦🏻♀️
I agree completely! She should’ve stood up and said, “Thank you for telling me. Please call me when you feel like you ARE ready to have this conversation.” Then she should have walked out.
Janelle needs to walk out on this creep. Shut him down right away. It was a public place so he can't rage on her. The fake friendliness was grotesque. @@mariabunch3541
People like Kody tend to accuse others of what they do.
When he left the restaurant he thought he had woo’d her with 2 minutes of flirting and that she would go back to “normal”. He still doesn’t get it.
It reminded me of the first and only date I ever had with this guy. Who could not stop talking about his ex. Bro, not now read the room. This is so much worse. They were actually married. 100% agree with you. He thought she was going to fall at his feet. Boy bye
I would not have hugged him. He didn't call or come by her apartment for 6 weeks. Janelle might have cooled off, but she still should have maintained her distance to let him know that she is no longer going to shrugg off his behavior.
Instead of can I give u a hug he asked aren't you going to give me a hug ? Ughh
Janelle and Christine basically had no choice but to team up because Kody and Robyn teamed up and shoved everyone else out.
I’m really glad Christine and Janelle have each other and their kids to support them because it’s got to be scary starting over at 50.
Janelle, being the accountant, saying the cost/ value ratio doesn't work for her is the final straw for her. She is gone Kody..pound sand.
Brother James: Thank you for, consistently, being a strong advocate for women and girls.💪🏾 Your daughter is blessed!🤎
What really got me is the fact that Cody wouldn't shut up an let Jenelle complete a sentence, and all the sudden he's picked up a stutter 😂😂😂😂 Why is it that alot of men only have children for 18yrs. but a woman has children for life ?
He told Christine he wasn’t attracted to her…she ran as far away as she could…but now he is pissed. His EGO is out of control.
Unbelievable. Imagine if Christine went back to Kody...he'd spend the rest of their lives reminding her what a wonderful husband he to take someone "unattractive" back into the fold. 🙄
@@BerryHair405 I hope that Christine would never go back to that narcissist jerk!
Kody: "Gonna GIVE ME a hug?"
(Not, "May I GIVE YOU a hug?")
Typical selfish narcissist. 🙄
Right?! And she looked so uncomfortable
And that “long time no see” pissed me off. He’s so disrespectful!
That was his way of gauging how much trouble he was in.
He's literally the gross "where's my hug" kid in school 😂😂😂😂
I noticed that he asked her at least 3 times 'how are you'? In a span of about 1:30 minutes. And she never asked him how he was. You could tell that he was feeling awkward. He was hoping that she would just overlook the tension and act like nothing was wrong. Kreepy Kody has arrested development.
SW contributions: Christine: rised the OG 13 kids, planned all the family gatherings, cooked most of the food, all while holding down a job
Jeanelle: worked full time, contributed to the family coffers, managed the family finances
Meri: worked full time, contributed to the family coffers
Robyn: in spite of not working, she needs a nanny, and it could not be Christine, money out the window. Spent THOUSANDS on Dickens porcelain figurines. Took most of the family recources, in exchange for wetting Kody's pencil
It has reached the point of emotional abuse. This is beyond a show. What Kody has said to these women. Can honestly damage their soul. Can take years to heal from. effect many areas of their life.
Not just the women, the children too
Also, financial abuse. Janelle gave half of the money from the sale of her Las Vegas home so that he could have his home with Robin and she is living in an apartment. He didn't care where she lived with their children but got angry that she didn't consult him about buying the 5th wheel.
You can tell the reason Christine is so insecure about dating is because Kody wounded her so deeply by saying cruel things to her to keep her under his control. He thought if he could make his wives feel unworthy of anything better they would never leave.
Facts
Kody talking about them all day long about them to other wives cause he thinks they are too stupid to know he does this with all the wives, Kody thought telling Janelle he is not attracted to Christine would make Janelle feel special! Augh he is not a man, he's a coward
Did y’all see the look Janelle gave when Kody started his rant about not knowing Christine was really going to leave him. He “said” he had no idea. Janelle’s face said, “Are you serious?” And looked down at the table in disbelief.😂😂😂. And Kody never picked up on the fact that Janelle is on to his bill shit.
This episode left me gobsmacked! From Kody's behaviour from the moment he entered the restaurant, to his constant referencing of Christine, to not letting Janelle finish a thought. Arrogance on steroids. I was so proud of Janelle's behaviour and that she didn't let him off the hook when referring to her kids, especially Savannah. I agree 100% with your analysis of this episode.
AND he thinks he's a prize with 'his pecs and 6 pack abs'!!! Gross!!!
Kody looked drained. Like he realizes his goose is cooked. Who is going to fund Robyn’s lifestyle she has become accustomed to now? Not him. He doesn’t work for a living. He is accustomed to sponging off the OG wives.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on steroids. It makes you talk nonstop!
@@SciVibes2136 it sure was! The celery isn’t working Kods.
@@birdenthusiast2095yeah I’d have to see it to believe it but I wouldn’t want to see it lol.
Kody treated Christine, Janelle and Mary as property and a paycheck! Kody is just pathetic!
Janelle has a great way with words. She can say something without saying it.
That's good, because Kody never let's her finish a sentence
@@barbaral743 and yet she does get her point across even to kody. He walked away knowing that their marriage is unraveling.
So true!
@@sarahshannon760 I want to improve what I say because she has such a good way of voicing things without name calling or even point scoring.
Christine can be a little snarky which is fun to watch but not necessarily something you want to replicate in your own life.
Kody has been talking to the wives since they joined up. He cannot let them get a word in to refute his nonsense. An emotional abuser.@@barbaral743
James, your commentary applies to all relationships, not just SW. Thank you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Absolutely 💯
Thank You James 💜
One of my mom’s good friends said about 25 years ago that so many people ask her about whether or not she was lonely and why she was still single. She was probably a few years older than I am now. She said “I’ve been more lonely in relationships than I have with no man in my life.” That was before her kids left the house. I’ve always remembered that.
Kody had one thing right about Janelle, she is a Queen! He threw that away and doesn't even see it!
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After 19 kids and 4 wives he still doesn't understand that the children are always first.
Proud that Janelle is realizing her worthy. From her Instagram act she looks so happy & living her best life now finding her freedom from narcissist Kody. Team Janelle❤
Kody runs Janelle down for her independence then complains he’s carrying all the burden alone. Nice to hear your husband thinks you’re all a burden
Kody is like the cobra in Jungle Book. He used his soft voice and looked her in the eye and tries to lure her into the cult again. However, Janelle has seen Christine, the least valued and most pitied by Kody and Robyn, flourish after leaving Kody. She’s ready to bet on herself and open the door to the Technicolor world outside Coyote Pass
Robyn looks like the cobra in jungle book
James, I think he knows it's important for him to have a relationship with his kids, and he purposely doesn't, knowing it's gonna be a deal breaker in his relationships with his OG3. He knows. He's playing that card hoping they'll take offense to it and react. It's the same with the money. He accuses Janelle of wanting him for his finances because he knows that over the decades she's the one worried about finances. He know that statement is not true and will irritate her, it's done on purpose. With Christine he said she never tried to have good relationships with the other sister wives. Because he knows she was the one who threw the parties, organized the social stuff for the whole family. He knows with that statement to Christine is gonna hurt her because she was all about the social part of the family. He's hurting each of them where he knows it'll hurt the most. He took first wife status away from Meri because he knew that's where it would hurt her the most.
Good insights. 👍🏻
You are so right! Yes, he knows.
❤❤❤! "ummm, cold water....but not as cold as that shoulder you're about to get." 😇😇😇 Pure gold Thank you!
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Have they both forgotten that HER kids are HIS kids? They never say "our" kids. Very very telling of his parenting.
Out of all 4 of his wives, the only one he truly loves is himself.
I completely dispute that Christine was not very clear about leaving. On the other hand even if she did not, what end result did he think would happen when he wanted a non-intimate marriage? Why is this such a shock, I can only suppose he's a slow learner
Exactly...she only told the entire nation for over 10 YEARS that she needed him to equalize the marriages and was NOT happy with his behavior. We ALL knew this was coming. Then add him choosing to not sleep with her and KABOOM, he pushed her over tje edge. Men always say their divorce BLINDSIDED them, caught them off guard, and shocked them when their wives gave them 1,000 warnings and 1,000 chances before cutting the cord. Men need to WAKE UP and women need to get faster at cutting the cord to these jerks.
Kody has the time to work out and get his "hot body," then he sure as hell has the time to spend with Savanah and his other kids.
Kody is SO VERY focused on himself and Robyn. He doesn't contribute much of anything, not to anyone but Robyn who is using him, IMHO. He couldn't care less about Janelle or Meri or Christine.
I watched seasons 1-5 of Sister Wives when the show was first aired, and I stopped watching, except a random episode here and there, for YEARS because I couldn't handle how Kody treated his wives and kids. I've come back into the fold only since season 17 because I was so excited about them leaving him, FINALLY. I just think everyone deserves so much more than what any of the wives, other than Robyn, get from Kody.
Unfortunately, Kody can't allow her to finish a sentence long enough for her to express her concerns. Kody is the smartest, most important, most insightful person Kody knows. Everyone else should listen to him so they can understand what's important 🙄
Says a lot about a boy that throws away his childen
Janelle is the alpha male of the family.
I feel like people have wanted the wives to be honest for a while, but first, the wives had to be honest with themselves
Janelle seemed like she was happy just being in the background as a support player and it is really about time that she takes the lead in her life. I think she justified staying for her kids until that realization struck her too….all this time she has really been a single parent. She’s had to be both mother and father to all of her kids and will probably have to continue to be so.
I agree, sometimes if we become too low maintenance people tend to forget that you have expectations too and get all shocked and offended when you speak up.
You’re right. I think she’s realizing that not only has Cody not been an asset in her kids lives for a long time, he’s actually been a detriment… An obstacle they must overcome.
Kody and Janelle have always had on and off separations. We can tell that Kody sees Janelle as a Friend and not a Wife. Kody expected for Janelle to fall back in line and he was shocked that she isn’t playing his games anymore. Kody walked in thinking she would roll over and obey. Nope! I’m so proud of Janelle for putting herself and her kids 1st!
Yes! Honesty, finally. Kody has controlled these women to lie for the paycheck. Enough of this baloney! Janelle has been so quiet until now. Where Christine was the family nurturer, Janelle was the hard working, financial/sacrifice/whole family structure foundation. It was actually her children who finally convinced her of her worth. She is way too good for Kody. She and Christine worked together to raise the family despite a lazy, neglectful “patriarch.” It is beautiful to see her stepping into her own, working out how to get the value out of their financial investments and find her best life. ❤❤❤
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Well said!❤❤
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Well said! I'd also add how truly beautiful it is that, having realised their own worth, Janelle and Christine have also realised each other's worth, too (Janelle has realised how awesome Christine is, and vice versa). So to see them being really good friends and moving on to greener pastures, without leaving the other one behind, is so satisfying!
I bet it's driving Kody mad that they are having a happy relationship without him and he can't manipulate them any more, but the reality is that these ladies held the family together without him, know they don't need him, but also that they can rely on each other, and are able to give each other the support they need as they move on to a future without Kody and his horrific 4th wife.
@@t-and-p Amen! I totally agree 💯
I think Janelle has the prettiest face of all four wives. Plus she is the most intelligent too.
One more thing. Why do we all say her kids. The kids belong to both the mom and dad. They are just as much his kids as they are hers! He has no concept of family.
Yes!!! Has always bugged me😊
As a minority I know what "you're so well spoken" reads like but you're INCREDIBLY articulate, insightful but down to earth & funny as hell, its refreshing and necessary and most of all comforting to hear a man saying it, I make sure to catch the new episodes because I like listening to youre reaction and look forward to them!!
I'm white and well spoken may have been a jab years ago but it's not meant here.
Janelle owned her own home, when she hot with Kidney and Meri she owned her own home, Kidney and Meri had diddly squat.
Kody does everything he can to get back his servants, without giving up any pay or accountability.
Cody is the True Definition of a Narsacist
He can't even remember how many times Janelle left his sorry butt😂
Anyone else think that maybe Kody is on testosterone? I know he's into the manosphere, but he seems super ragey .
OMG I’ve thought this for a while. It seems to be front and center the last two seasons.
Yes!! Or steroids to build his 6-pac?❤
Taking testosterone for a prolonged period of time creates shrinkage of the testicles.
And steroids shrink all male genitalia
At some point Kody will realize he threw away 3 functioning relationship and the children attached. When he does the devastation will be epic. Then hes going to notice Robyns culpability. Wouldnt want to be him or her when it happens.
Kody is a Narcissist and unable of compassion. This information according to HG Tutor.
@dianneloveland3728 is absolutely right. That's why everything that goes wrong is someone else fail. But,anything that looks a little positive it all about him who made it happen. Kody is absolutely the mentally and emotionally deadbeat for everyone other than Robin and her kids. Funny thing to me is that Robin now has to put up with kody 27/7/365. And I don't think Robin will be able to handle it if kody can't bring in all the money she wants. Because Robin and Kodys ideal of being rich is different. Robin wants material items, kody see the dollar amount. Robin spends and kody counts. How long can she hold on if he stops her material flow?
@dianneloveland3728 HG Tudor analyzing Kody would be fun.
But yeah, Kody's narcissism is pretty obvious. My ex husband shares a lot of similarities so it's been interesting for me to watch
Narcissists die full of hatred for the people who refused to please them
the most frustrating and painful part of narcissists is they actually don’t ever get it or have the “ahh haa moment of clarity“ it’s by far the most frustrating thing. i have a psychiatric, diagnosed mother, with narcissistic personality disorder, as well as a diagnosed ex spouse and father to my son who’s got narcissistic personality disorder. my moms in her 80s dying and solely dependent upon me to survive, pay her bills, etc. and she’s improved none. if anything i’d say it’s only progressed. same with my ex. they can’t get it or see it. even when they loose absolutely everything and have hit rock bottom. smh
My dad says you don't measure your worth with another person's yardstick.
I have always thought, from the very beginning, that Janelle was such a good dad/provider with a more masculine energy...and Christine was such a good mom/caregiver to ALL the kids of the family!
Janelle is more logical, and good at finances and budgeting...and Christine is more empathetic, and good at nurturing and reaching kids on their level. Great team!!!
Yeah and look how her kids turned out to be
It just makes me so angry that Janelle gave this useless man 4 sons and 2 daughters and he wrote them off in a heartbeat! Christine’s 6 children as well! Couldn’t just pick up the phone and wish any of them a Merry Christmas or a Happy Birthday! This is a man whose pencil,as he puts it,has ruled him since the beginning.This is a man that had to have denied his children,at least some of them,his name on their birth certificates so their mothers could collect welfare and food stamps and still they were eating ketchup on day old bread from the bread store.And you know that had to have happened more than once for the children to remember it.Good grief! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know,”Don’t have more children than you can feed!”
This man didn’t just turn his back on his children when they turned 18 …he turned his back right from the beginning and I’m willing to bet that Cody never ate day old bread slathered in ketchup! 🤬🤬🤬
I think his pencil has really always liked men, but he just doesn't want to admit it. Until Robyn. So whatever. He's really a jerk.
@@lbarmstrong1Bwahaha good one! I totally think you’re right !
Kody is still trying to turn Janelle against Christine. It’s not working in his favor
Kody just don’t get it!!!! Read the room Kody!!! Stop!! Talk about your relationship with Janelle and no one else! He is so annoying!!
Janelle was like ‘talk to the hand’! Good for her recognizing talking to him was futile.
One thing I've seen with the wives, is that they've grown a lot. Kody has not shown any type of growth
You really give good life advice, and I think it's encouraging to know that just because you are feeling stuck or drowning one day, doesn't mean you can't set yourself fee, and swim up to the surface the next. It's true sometimes you have to let people go, just because you may have known them for decades doesn't mean they are good for you, or with you. Kody walked in there and tried the love bombing and tried to be a Hoover to suck her in, but she stood her ground. I respect that!
100%. I said it too. Every single day you wake up and draw breath it's an opportunity to fix the things you think need to be fixed and Kody has literally handed out every excuse in the book in order to cover his own ass when it came to not making ammends to Janelle and to not address the issues with the kids. His attitude in all of this is so warped and stupid. Janelle is not there because Kody has "nice pecs" and "6 pack abs" and for him to state that,that's all she interested in is ridiculous! He's treated her horribly,he's been deliberately neglectful to her kids,and he's ignored her needs in order to fulfill Robyn's. Yes,Janelle is low maintance but there's a difference between low maintance and no maintance and,"Long time no see."? That's not the response you give to your wife and the mother of your children! Look at Janelle's body language. You can see it from the very moment he sat down with her. Janelle was very guarded and the arms crossed and all that is someone pulling into themselves for protection. Simply put Kody has spent years treating Janelle like crap and she was okay because in truth Janelle didn't require the level of upkeep that Christine,Meri and Robyn require so he's okay with giving her the bare minimum and if this idiot thinks that this all comes back to his pecs and his abs he's missed the entire point as to why Janelle is pissed at him. He's treating their children badly and that's where Janelle's issue begins and ends. He may have been right that she wanted to leave and that he thought she would reconsile with him but the fact is he's going to have to do some work if he wants her back and other then catering to Robyn,working in his relationships is not something Kody's horrifically good at.
Well said...
I wish you could talk to my teenage self. You could have saved me a lot of heartache
I think Kody walking away and ignoring Savannah was the last straw
Kody got what was deserved. He just thought he’d walk in and get Janell back. Never gave a thought that she’d stay separated. 👏👏👏👏👏Janell
I can say that the lockdowns showed me who cares about me. Even my dad told me he wouldn't help me. I am physically and mentally ill and noone wanted anything to do with me.
It's not the first time an event has revealed what people are made of in my orbit.
COVID made people choose what mattered most to them. Kody choose Robyn and her family.
I’m sorry you had to go through anything like that. Sending peace and comfort your way.
@@colleen1219 thank you I appreciate it I have to say you also can receive kindness from strangers it's not all bad. Xx
@@harrietyounger6118it's amazing how much more helpful strangers will be than our own families
Kody uses words like "gaslight," "transmute," and "trigger" without having any idea what they really mean. Reminds me of Robyn's "pink elephant in the room". What a couple of mental giants they are. I'd hate to live in their heads. As always, James, your analysis is perfection!
I think Sob-n-Rob-em "defines" Kidney's reality. Prolly where he got the idea that he is hot!
Its crazy to me that people broke up due to covid and being shut in with their partners and kids, i loved spending more time with my husband and kids it was something that work never allowed us, but those 3 months of lock down brought us closer and were so fun at the house, we gardened together, we hiked together, we rode bikes together, we made paintings together, we read books together, we cooked together, we were making memories that we couldnt do when we went back to work and school in person full-time
Thank you for using transmute correctly in a sentence-Kody dropped the ball on that one.
Kody couldn't address Jenelle's issues because he couldn't stop talking about Christine. It's too little too late for Kody.
I sure hope that Cody watches all the RUclipsrs 😂😂
James, you’re bringing all the facts per usual. 👏🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I sooooo wish Janelle would’ve actually said those things to Kody face to face while at the restaurant. I’m sure there’s a level of not wanting to poke the narcissistic bear……so I can understand why she wouldn’t want to do that. And maybe it’s a safety thing…..(we don’t know what goes on when the cameras turn off) 🥴.
I just really hope in time she can set his ass straight face to face. He needs to hear all of it. Yes, he’ll more than likely gaslight TF out of her per usual…..but at least she could get him told and get it off her chest.
Yeah well, Christine gave Kody plenty of clues, he missed them all and now Jenelle is going to leave too.
Christine lives rent free in Kodys head. 😂
I think Janelle should of got up and said when you can be an adult we can come back to talk .
I honestly think Kody is going to regret what he lost and will start resenting Robin and blaming her cause we know he never takes responsibility for his own actions. Robin is about to see what it's like for the other wives. She never encouraged his relationships with the other wives and kids. How could she not make Kody go to Ysabels surgery. That was low of her.
Lowest of the low, imo.
In excessively paternalistic religions, like the one the Brown family is part of, there is the expectation that women will always prioritize their "headship" over their children. So Kody 100% believes that the entire family revolves around him because that's what their faith dictates. So when Christine chose her children over him, he was angry and confused. He couldn't understand why refusing to help Ysabel was a deal breaker for Christine. Because, as far as he was concerned, she was in the wrong in that situation because she defied Kody. And now, we see his relationship with Janelle imploding for the same reason. Kody says "You have to obey me at the expense of your children" and Janelle's, like, "Nah..."
For someone who has an ego as big as Kody does, he sure does act like a huge wuss in front of the world. Whining about Christine, his COVID fear, and how he reacted to getting COVID. It's a huge contrast in his personality and really confuses me.
James, I just love how you break things down so succinctly, yet with a sense of humour. Nicely done, sir. Keep up the great work.
Yep, Kody is clueless.
What pushed Janelle over the edge was watching Christine say ENOUGH. The thought that Christine would be an ally furthered her zeal. ( And possibly, having TLC involved on some projects, which would give her the Estate she dearly wanted.)
I have never seen a RUclipsr say anything about having Kody’s back.
100% of comments are so very negative and people basically hate him and his treatment of the family.
Kody will be forced into disappearing.
Amazing commentary James!!! He thought he could come in love bombing and Janelle would just roll over for him. Nope!!! 🎉 She's talking about their marriage and their kids, and all he could do was babble about Christine! SMH
Janelle is the 3rd wife to leave. Meri is pretending. She's been gone. 😮
Right, it's called Acting, 3-2-1 Action.... Cut cut 😂
Love your content! I only watch SW’s to see Christine and Janelle find happiness-that’s it, that’s all.
I'm having fun watching Kotex and Sobyn's world implode.
I will watch to see Robyn realize she got a boobie prize lol
You are so on point with everything you say I feel lifted up just hearing you speak. You also really know how to turn a phrase and make me laugh. It’s a real shame Kody has 18 kids but doesn’t know the first thing about being a parent and doesn’t care enough to learn.
Love your videos, always on point!
Janelle is saying there is NO point of reconciliation in their cycle. They just meet again, nothing is discussed, nothing changes, they pretend to have come to an agreement. No wonder Kody enjoys Janelle, he can bulldoze right over her and her kids.
Thank you james you make my day 😂
I HATE the “do I get a hug?” thing. I’m mad janelle fell for it
I thought she looked uncomfortable doing it. Perhaps she felt like she had to since he asked on camera? She has admitted in the past that she would rather avoid conflict. Her body language didn't look open or receptive, more like a kid whose mom is making them hug a distant relative that they barely remember.
James, you know exactly what women think & what it really means to be a man!!
James, you are hilarious. I enjoyed seeing Kody stunned by Janelle's indifference and hearing your comments about the episode.
I have been waiting for Janelle to realize her value and have some self-respect.
Cody is cruel, and I wish the show would be canceled.
It would be great if there was a spin-off with just Christine and Janelle and their families.
It would be a boundary and a line in the sand if Janelle would tell Kody that! She slumps in her chair, her voice is quivering and when Kody reacts to her attempts to address her needs she looks like a scolded child. Then, she gets in the Kody train and starts discussing his narcissistic narrative manipulation. I squeaks out Suvanna name once, then back to Kodys needs and issues. Then, Kody throws her a bone…. I want to kiss you… she looks like Meri at the mention of some type of affection…. School girl. Sad. Sad.
Janelle never says that to Kody… she says it to tv on when by herself.
Kody better call Tyrone ,,, to help you get your ship ... out of Janelle's apt.
What you said about Covid was dead on--seeing people in their true form (esp under pressure) and removing all the typical distractions. It ended a lot of relationships. It's equally true that it strengthened some relationships--the removal of distractions slowed things down and gave people time to spend quality time together again--couples and families.
Kody and Robin are nothing more than sleazy con man. They knowingly treated the OG’s like dirt continuously. Yet, are OK taking from them financially. They are kidding themselves. If they think they would be anywhere without Janelle, her constant financial contributions. To the well-being of the family.
Janelle is a smart capable woman she doesn’t need Kody. Kody is a user. He never treated Christine right. He broke Mari when he divorced her, she has never been the same. I’m sorry Janelle’s money is in Robyn’s house. Robyn hasn’t had a job the whole marriage. When you take a good look at the size and age of Robyn’s house, at the art on her walls the woodwork the excess in her garage and her laundry room that’s all money that should have been shared with the sister wives.
Enough is enough. Please take this show off the air. They have done enough damage to their families. Kody especially needs to go.
I can’t believe TLC actually puts the abuse that kody does to these women as it is emotionally and mentally abusive the way he treats the wives .
He's unable to focus on his and Janelle's relationship because he's too busy focusing on Christine
He seems to be a rather vindictive fellow
Gosh it’s crazy when you say something that I’ve said to parent my children. Love watching you’re videos because you give such good life advice not just sister wives recap ❤ You’re my favourite creator! Free therapy session every week 😂
Love the whole talk, but the essence of it is crystallized in this one (para) phrase:
I would give someone the shirt off of my back, but not if they just want to see me naked.
That is it…. A word. The message. Perfection 🙌🏼