International 2.4mR Sailboat Project - Episode 45 - Installing the deck, part 3
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2021
- This is episode forty-five of an ongoing series following the construction of a wooden International 2.4 metre class sailboat. The design is called the Stradivari Mk IV by Hasse Malmsten.
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A short history of the Mini 12 and 2.4 Metre Class:
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By the way, I love your “stream of consciousness” style. I don’t get that from many youtubers. I have never built a boat, and probably never will, but I learn so very much about woodworking from these videos. You and Lou Sauzedde, the best.
Awesome! Thank you!
Your epoxy technique is so precise. I think, if this whole boatbuilding venture tanks, that you have a future as a pastry chef.
Thanks 👍
The cradle sling mea culpa literally had me cracking up!🤣
Don't apologies Mark, the method to our madness only has bearing if it impacts the results of your genius. The boat stunning :)
Mark we are looking in at your world ! Therefore we must accept your way of doing things that’s the whole reason for watching,I don’t want to compare with what I’d do, what’s the point in that! I watch to learn new ways to do old jobs !! Thanks for that
I’m glad you’re enjoying the offerings. Thanks.
What wobbly stand ☺
I like the AABCD (adjustable angle boat construction device) ie. wobbly cradle. Allows the user to adjust the work angle as needed!
I better hop to it and patent that name!
Per wobbly cradle, firm foam wedges held on by Velcro that could be removed when flipping might be a worthwhile addition.
When I do LFT( large format tile) I make sure there's no cross hatching (air traps) in the thinset, I back butter like you do and when I set the stone or tile press down and twist like you do and it collapses the ridges forces out the air and creates a suction. I know if you want to replace a tile bring a hammer, chisel and your lunch . Also even though you didn't ask I took my nail pullers and ground a v shape on the end of one handle and a straight (screwdriver) profile on the other but mine are old farrier's nippers yours look pretty fancy 😉.Lol, Thanks for posting.
Beat way to start the 4th! Love watching you work through your thought process, she is looking gorgeous. Happy 4th, and cheers from Texas!
Yes, it gives me, a novice builder/hobbyist, some confidence thatI'm not the only one figuring things out on the fly.
@@kennethellison9713 we are all figuring things out on the fly. The only ones that aren’t are those the keep going down the same flight path over and over again.
yes that makes sense. butchery of wood is an art of its' own. I think I've recommended before that you try a NEW "skilsaw" blade, 7 1/2 inch, on your table saw. it helps if you have an old school one with multipul pulley sizes so you can adjust the rpms based on the wood. the upshot is if you're ripping alot, your kerf is maybe less than half and when you're buying premium wood and care about trees... well that's my tip. When I'm trying to get my brain going on wood, I like to use chalk or wetted watercolor pencils until I really make up my mind. I say measure 23 times, then cut about 5 or 6. I guess there's epoxy, but you can't put endgrain back. Of course we have tricks for the long grain. Oh and one of my favourites is thin plexiglass. You can get incredibly accurate shapes which importantly you can SEE THROUGH, so you can see the grain of the wood underneath what you're tracing around. See you next week!
I do use a skill-saw blade when economy demands it. I also use plexi for patterns on some stuff too.
@@Nomadboatbuilding if you really want a thin blade for bookmatches stewman has circular saws for fret jobs, otw pick the right blade on a band saw. keep em coming, I CAN wait to see the owner sailing. have you two thought about a kind of v shaped spline down the center of the front, to disguise the seam? common trick, either hide it or decorate it. it's really hard to hide so it's common to decorate
@@Nomadboatbuilding sorry stewmac but you knew that
I’ll give you a spoiler Willis. No spline down the seam. It came out looking just fine.
Way after the fact, personally, I'd prefer high contrast on the covering boards. And, because I'm a racer, I'd like to see the deck board angle reversed, ie. pointing aft. That would give me a built in tacking angle for sighting the weather marks.
I did high contrast covering boards on a kayak some years back. Looked good but all that diagonal planking is the showpiece here wouldn’t want to upstage that.
Good gosh , issue #45 , we have all got old but looking great: is there a DVD set coming
Ask Samurai Carpenter about the specific type of saw.
I may just do that. He actually lives pretty close to me but funnily enough we have never crossed paths.
@@Nomadboatbuilding Ha cool. That would be a great crossover to visit eachothers shop. Watching his videos got me into woodworking. Watching yours may get me into boatbuilding (if only I had the time). I realy enjoy the long form vids you make. Keep it up! I would like to see her sail!
azebiki is just the type of saw. Comes in different sizes. Natch
Thanks!
Super Thanks to you too!
This looks like a fantastic boat. The videos are just a bit to long for me. Its like watching them in real time.
I hear you Max. I actually want them to be shorter but it’s hard to cover the component subjects in much less time.
That which shall not be named killed me. And I'm one of your tormentors! Oh the shame... 🤣🤣🤣
The saw, there's a guy in New York. Dorian Bracht is his YT channel. He might know where to find one...
Cool. Thanks.
Combing doesn't help adherence, it assists in leveling. The valleys allow for a place for the mastic to move otherwise any excess material would have to squeeze out beyond the tile and because it is so thick and resistant to flowing it would be overly laborious.
Buttering the back of the tile bridges the substrate and the subfloor sufficiently considering the area involved and the tile does not change dimensions and neither does the substrate if anchored appropriately so it is not an issue unlike wood which expands and contracts by the hour.
It short, the mastic provides structure and it's relative viscosity is critical for maintaining it's desired position (1/8-1/2" variance) but adds difficulty for leveling the irregular tile/substrate, (tile is never actually flat and square).
The air gap from combing mitigates the lack of flow from the mastic requirements.
Just spent my day tiling in fact. Thanks for the info.
Not mastic, it's epoxy resin + cabosil or similar glue additive , spot on about self leveling properties.
Sir-Godz is just referring to tiling in general, not what we're doing on the boat itself.
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*Installing ;)
Thanks dude.
@@Nomadboatbuilding lol. no worries. :) enjoy these videos every week so, keep kicking ass!
Wobbly cradle? What wobbly cradle? I've not noticed a wobbly cradle. No sir. Not at all. Not once. Not a single wobbly cradle thought ever crossed my mind. No. No, no. Not me. Wobbly cradles aren't driving me bonkers at all. So, I promise, I won't mention wobbly cradles, just like you ask. Not at all. I mentioned them once, but I think I got away with it, and now, it's as though there are no wobbly cradles at all, and never have been. Love the shoulder plane with the side handle. It'd be easier to use if the workpiece stayed st............oh gee, is that the time......
Touché Mike.
Can someone please tell me what this is in reference to? :P
@@kevinlytle6215 Allegedly, there was once a boatbuilder who wasn’t too fussed about having the fruit of his labours well affixed in space.
Indeed, he saw positive advantage in allowing his workpiece a little freedom of movement, certainly no real disadvantage and by utilising a pair of webbing straps to suspend the symphony in wood that his creation had become he did indeed allow it a certain latitude in this respect.
In truth, on the odd occasion, the subject of his labours did unseemly move, as though to flinch from his tender caress.
In doing so, it did sometimes cause him a mild sense of vexation, unease even, as he addressed it to yet further perfect it’s lines with plane, scraper and the addition of yet more exquisite joinery.
Some of the assembled throng, there to observe and vicariously live for a moment in his workshop of dreams, raised objection to this unseemly mobility and raised great howls of protest at what they perceived as a great heresy.
Possibly they were concerned for the safety of the masterpiece, lest the craftsman should be taken unawares by an unforeseen shimmy or rotation and might slip or be deflected in the course of a cut, thereby marring the perfect grain.
They railed against the absence of moulds or a stand to affix the wonderous object in one position, such that it would be a prisoner to his touch.
The craftsman made an appeal to the throng, admitting the imperfection of his method of work holding and begging forgiveness from the multitude.
As with all multitudes there were many opinions and forgiveness would not be a position possible for some to reach.
The craftsman, however, asked them at least to keep their silence, for their agitation vexed him greatly.
We do not know the outcome of this tale and perhaps never will, whether he was allowed to whittle once again in a blissful world where no criticism intruded, or whether he bowed to the collective of coulda-woulda-shoulda’s who in fact contributed little to the apogee of art, the creation of floating cabinetry, but merely bobbed along on the waves of it’s reflected glory.
Or whether the worker, scarred by the experience, retired from public life and from sharing his quest for the perfect joint, en-boise so to speak.
The lesson here is that if one enjoys watching a master at work, leave the guy alone to do what he does in his own way, not try to impose upon him one’s own methods.
To do so would alter the situation, distort the flowing lines of entropy that dictate the placement of each intricate piece.
Were that the case the magic, the gestation unto birth of another most perfect edifice in glowing hardwood, might be broken, never to return.
It’s a matter of respect really.
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Holy smoke. The man sure can wrassle a quill! 🤔
@@kevinlytle6215 I kept getting comments about why I didn’t build a “proper cradle” that would allow me to work without the boat wobbling around.
I've never seen a antique guillotine saw before, that's quite unique. Folks don't realize that the boat may wobble but I don't think it will slide Fore and Aft which I think would make it ok setup! after all.
It’s not an antique but I’m sure they are out there.
@@Nomadboatbuilding I think they are used in picture frame building and for trim work. First time I saw one was on "This Old House" and Tom Silva was using one building cabinets and he mentioned the picture frame building. Seemed like a bit of a flex on his part, but I never forgot it. I'm sure that was over 15 years ago.
@@lunkydog there are large foot peddle operated stationary machine versions out there too. I would say they were probably developed for finish carpentry in general rather than for one specific industry. I used to do a lot of picture framing and the one thing that helped best was a mitresaw fence with stops. Get your parts exactly equal in length and all went smoothly. Start trimming ends and you start chasing your tail.
sorry verbose. yes yes yes this may have been your greatest publication! I don't remember where or when I read it, in a book actually gathered from many books, in the public library, there are ways to deal with grain. if it's a picnic table you put the crown up so water will drop off. if you're laminating something edgewise I think of clasping hands, the curve grabs the other curve. if it's a bookmatch you've got to have some of the most perfect pieces of wood in the world to start, and from some of the oldest trees, use the closest to quarter sawn and use the thinnest saw possible. you might enjoy a documentary of taylor guitars being invited to a national park because several MASSIVE spruce trees had blown down in a torrent. they flew in helicopters and made guitars! when I think bookmatching, I think violins, violas and guitars. very finely tuned and adjusted band saw, with just the right number of teeth
The key thing is that the boat should weight some 5kg less than the minimi weight that class rules state. I do not know if this boat will be too heavy in order to be competitive in races. I see too much material to be used here.
The client isn’t interested in being competitive on an international level. It’s just good natured local club racing.
Hishika saw from woodcraft
#tapethyfillet
#rockthycradle
beaucoup de trous pour un palquage qui n'est pas complètement collé sur le milieu...!!
Any reason why you didn't make and fasten the king plank first? (cannot remember who but another builder did it that way).
Because I didn’t use a king plank as I discussed in the previous video.
@@Nomadboatbuilding My bad, but this was first time I watched any of your videos so I didn't know (Travels w Gordie "sent" me). Btw, my intro to boatbuilding was with Birger Kullman, Norway's current leading designer, as we made a little skiff and a 16" day sailor using strips and cold molding - as I understand you also do.
@@SteifWood No problem. I try to make the episodes independent but you happened to land an a multi-part one. Haven't crossed paths with Travels w/Gordie. He lives here in the same town as me though. Samurai Carpenter as well.
Your filed spreader might have left more epoxy than previously?
That's exactly what I thought.
Hadn’t considered that but you’re probably right. It’s not a fine science.
Who's Wobbly Stan?
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#NOTTHUMBTACK: those are PUSH PINS not thumb tacks.
Festool Kapex is about the best, but it’s stupid expensive…
I was considering that but I don’t like the stupid expensive part. I’m not convinced Festool prices are justified.
@@Nomadboatbuilding I didn’t either until I bought one and then another…The Kapex is remarkably precise and easy to setup and use and the construction quality is second to none.
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No lightning bolt king plank it always looks better and what your using mahogany not teak in thickness like that I would start to think of better wood sometimes when you spend time to build something nice you might want to use more expensive lumber it is worth it my cabin house side on my vessel are teak 1936 3" thickness and will go strong forever mahogany was chosen for consumers who could not afford teak but wanted the look that's one of the reasons we invented stain
And if you glassed the decks and our going to glue mahogany down hopefully someone later does not have to pull glued mahogany off of the deck at some point give mahogany 30 years with a sheltered life give teak 50 years if from 1st growth on both
So it's a 2.4 meter boat that's like building a big model