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Thanks- a good way to maintain smoothness for plunging is to buy some silicone in a spray can & after a thorough cleaning spray the cylinders to coat them... a lot of high quality bits have that on them for decades now- even works for your steel table if you are a shaper type set up dude... that silicone makes an almost frictionless glide... I am in the market for a new router since all three of my 5 speed EVS P=C 3 1/4 HP 3 1/2" plunge capacity routers have each been stolen over time & now you can't buy a new one... so will seriously consider the cordless DeWalt after your excellent vid
It is a surprising omission. They could just sell a transformer that plugs in instead of the battery. Seems like a no-brainer, and some other companies offer this.
From a guy who narrowly escaped massive injury this week from a rouge router flying around after a massive kick back while using a circle jig, that rotate shut off is going to be worth every penny!!
I know more people who have been injured by routers than even table saws so I am not surprised by that. I think they SEEM not so dangerous so maybe peoples guard is down more with them or something. cabinet maker/installer for 30 years now and yeah routers and planers seem to be the most often tools I have seen or heard of people getting injured with then tablesaws come in close behind.
so you believe the router went rogue on you and not that you approached the cut too aggressively. like things just happen randomly out of nowhere for no reason and you dont know why. be honest, what you really want is someone or something to do your work for you. just do your own work and do it right and you'll be fine. or do what you know is wrong and you wont be
Learn anything about the incident? Better way to handle the tool, it’s never a tool problem, it’s the operator. Every time we have an incident in our ship we review the human error. We don’t blame the tool. Do better. Learn to do clime cuts, they will increase the quality of your work increases the life of your bits, reducing the fine particle dust. And how did you have a kick back using a jig?
I just bought the DCW604 with the kit. Fixed base, plunge base with 2 dust extraction connectors for both and 2 guide fences with a Tstak box a month ago and I absolutely love it.. it is an excellent piece of kit which suits my needs perfectly. Great video mate 👍🏻
It never ceases to amaze me that manufacturers haven't integrated the power cord and the vacuum hose into one on mains-operated routers. This is so convenient to use rather than separate vacuum hose and power cord! Really short-sighted
Have to add another comment, I wish I had more time for woodworking, because I love watching your videos. Hopefully some day, but I first saw you early on, and knew you were going places. I am amazed and proud to see how far you've come, as a great woodworker, great idea man, great Christian, and from what I can tell from your videos, a great father!! You rock!
Shout out to Whiteside: I was doing a lot of mortising for hinges in old windows on a building we were renovating. The problem was that as soon as the router bit hit a nail, it was destroyed. I bought a magnet to try to find them before I hit them with the router but I wasn't finding them all. I switched to a Whiteside router bit and all of a sudden I was zipping through small nails. There were also heavier nails that were used to hold the window frame in place, I really tried to avoid hitting those but the Whiteside router bit went through those like butter except for the noise.
@@JerryPonds Thanks, For better or worse, I need reading glasses for close up work. I don't think OSHA would approve, but I use them for safety glasses.
@@davefoc I know someone who got glass shards stuck in their eyes when using normal glasses as safety glasses, there are brands out there that make safety glasses with prescription and I would HIGHLY recommend you get some before anything horrific happens.
Bought this first day available… its a great Router… one complaint is that when routing through epoxy resin it builds up a lot of static electricity and zapps the user repeatedly through the handles…
Are you using dust collection for this? If so, and using a regular shop vac, it's likely coming from the shop vac. Get yourself a real dust extractor that comes with an anti static hose and I bet most of this issue goes away.
While not interested in this router, battery platform is not a big barrier. Get an adapter. I am presently using a Dewalt tool with my Makita 18v batts and an adapter. I also have adapters to use my Makita batts with Milwaukee and Ryobi tools.
You can get the Metabo HPT 36V Hybrid both battery and battery 1/2" plunge router for $199 all the time at Acme, Lowes , CPO and others with a 4.0/8.0 battery and starter kit/charger We have 3 of them in our business and they have been out for 3 yrs He just hasn't even noticed em even after multiple times alerting him to give it a try
Not only does this video make me fall in love with my Yellow and Black brand even more, I am finally sold on upgrading to the power stack batteries now. Most of my 20V XR tools are going on 15 years and countless hours of hard labor and home projects alike. I love the 618, but it pretty much lives in my table. I think my September 1st B Day is gonna be coming early this year!!! Thanks for another great review.
@bl8155 I am looking at getting the palm and this since I don't have either. In your experience, how long does the power stack batteries last in the palm router since that is probably going to be the first I buy and most used?
@daniellecontreras637 I got the normal power stack batteries first and I was really disappointed, the router used it up in less than 5 minutes. The 5ah ones last ages though! I routed out an entire guitar body in multiple passes, routed out the pick ups and control cavities and it still wasn’t flat. The router is also really impressive, much better than the Makita equivalent. If you have budget, get 2 x 5AH batteries and I’d be surprised if the other hasn’t fully charged before the one you’re using runs out.
For reference on the price, it's the same as for the corded 3HP dedicated plunge router they make, so while you were comparing it to the 2-1/4 HP versatile model, it's a different class of router. I'll note too though that you can buy just the router body for that 2-1/4 for a dedicated router table option, so for that there's options on how to use it.
That is one nice piece of a router. Being a big DeWalt fanboy I can't wait for this one to be available in my location (the Netherlands). The overload protection is not just a nice feature - I'm hoping that this will save on batteries. The battery powered circular saw killed 2 of my 20V batteries within a few months after buying. These were replaced under warranty by DeWalt with the brand new PowerStack batteries but all my other batteries keep running without any issue
I really love all the features of this router. I want the corded version of this if they ever make one. Makita had the angled handles waaaay back when. 20 plus years ago.its a very comfortable hand position.. Great video and Great review
Matt you’re awesome!! Is there anything in the future building anything? I loved your videos when you were doing woodworking, you turned me onto this beautiful hobby and now I am doing so every day. Watching you made me what I am today.
For dust collection for dados, I'm wondering if you connected the dust hose where it would "normally" be connected versus where it is on the guide? Maybe that would improve the dust collection, especially if you set it up so the suction area is after the bit?
So you're saying push the router from right to left so the collection is behind the bit? Great idea! An edge guide wouldn't work for that, but a dado jig would handle that just fine. I'll remember that technique with my DW618.
I have multiple 690’s, D handle and a PC trim router, but I’m tired of dust everywhere and have been thinking about a Festool. The PC plunge seems like the springs need adjustment when you first get one.
I love mine too. I would really like to see a one-wrench design, though. Or at least have it so the bottom wrench can just be rested on the frame. I find I have to hike it up 1/4" and free-hand. It's never comfortable.
@@SupaFUZZZZZZ I wouldn't say THAT. I have a DeWalt compound miter saw that is the best I've ever used. I'm not a brand loyalist when it comes to tools. I buy the best too for the job.
@@SupaFUZZZZZZ Do you put a time stamp on your comment? I have all made in the USA Porter Cable. Have no idea what is on the shelf now but haven't heard many good comments about the current products.
I have a bunch of dewalt tools and was about to head out and pick up the festool OF1400, but now I’m going to have to research this router and see if I’d rather get this one!
@@KerrickLong I’m leaning towards the Festool. After buying 2 batteries there’s only a $100 difference in cost between the two and I already have a growing collection of festool tools with the dust extractor and boom arm and I’d be hooking up the dust hose anyways and have festool tracks to use with the router. The Dewalt looks like a nice router, but the cordless feature isn’t a game changer for me.
This thing looks great. I'm a carpenter and have been using an 1800w Makita for the past 25 years, which goes well, but the double wrench collet and the depth adjustments are so painful, that here i am watching this video. Does anyone know which manufacturer has the simplest collet design?
It looks strikingly similar to the Triton TMNRTR at $175 but it’s not cordless, has less features and only has a 1/4” collet. It does have great ergonomics and above-the-table height adjustment when mounted under the router table. I would highly recommend it if you don’t have the cash for this pricey alternative.
I currently own around 13 routers in various shapes and configurations... This one seems to check almost all the boxes for a quality 1/2" router and appears very versatile and capable. I skipped the Milwaukee 1/2" cordless myself because I didn't like the way it felt. This one seems about perfect for mortise locks ( I currently use the Dewalt 1/4" cordless for this) and hinges when hanging doors.
Couple things. 1. Can’t you just lock the base in place and use it as a fixed base? 2. How does it run on say an 8ah XR battery or maybe the new 8ah Powerpack or even a flexvolt battery? And what do you think of Freud and CMT router bits?
It was designed in synch and optimised for the 5ah powerstack, but it will work with all batteries, from experience flexvolt make it too top heavy like the Milwaukee. 😊
2 things. 1)You did not connect the hose to the top when you did the dado but connected it to guide that had no access to the dust. 2) I am a fan of the best tool from whatever brand and just use the battery adaptors. I have the ridgid platform, but use those batteries(with lifetime warranty) for some Ryobi, some makita and a few dewalt items and it works great with the battery adaptors that are easily available now in the age of 3d printing. Don't let the brand dictate what tool you buy imo.
I’ve never committed to any brand exclusively…my table saw is Delta, miter saw is a Hitachi CF8, I love Milwaukee cordless nailers and drills, favourite routers are Makita, and lastly Festool has the best circular saws.
Hi, fyi this router is not suitable to be used on a router table, corded router is better so you can isolate the power in case of emergency. It can be used with a router sled though.😊
I see one important feature , which is the dust collector deflecting insert. This is a real good idea. It has long been part of the Leigh's accesories, too. . It is amazingly efficient, really. I like DeWalt a lot, they made a big step in reducing the annoying dust.
Tempting, but I love the corded routers I have, and don't have need to go with a battery. As other said, with dust collection, it is still tethered, so what is the point?
I wonder if DeWALT will redesign the edge dust collection shroud to be like the Festool I have. I would find it to be super annoying that it doesn’t rotate. This looks like a really good router though. The wireless tool connect feature is limited to the flexvolt vac last I knew. It is super annoying when wireless vac activation is locked down. No brand is open enough to where I would want the brand to be. Festool is close because it is done through the battery and not the tool but they lock it to only Festool dust extractors. Makita is also close because they offer an adapter that plugs into any corded dust extractors regardless of brand that have a spot for a plug but the feature is locked to the tool meaning older tools are not compatible. Another brand has a feature that was self contained in the vac meaning any tool worked but you had to have that specific vac.
I was wondering if you do drop it wouldn't the shutoff system still work because when you drop something it does jar it and twist, doesn't it. Every tool I've dropped did kinda do the twist motion. Even if it didn't twist I would think it would kick it off from the force from hitting the ground triggering the twist action shutoff. I could be wrong and maybe it wouldn't work all of the time when you drop it ( which I hope isn't very often) but I think it would probably kick it off most of the time from the force of hitting the ground. Great video, I really like your content. I've been watching you since just after Thanksgiving last year and learned a lot from you. You were also one of the first ones I've found when I got into woodworking and have been with you every since (as well as some others I found around the same time). I hope you and Mrs. 731 are doing well, stay safe and Happy Building!💯 I will see you in the next one!😁
You didn’t mention it comes with a cone for centring the cutter... vital for accuracy when using jigs. No centring adjustment on the other cordless routers. Also 70mm plunge depth makes it best in class.😊 Nice vid… awesome router 👊🏼
Still must not have used the first to market and 36V and AC adapter capable Metabo HPT 1/2" plunge router that already revilutionized all cordless.routers and has been out for almost 3 yrs Makita, DeWalt and Milwaukee are way late.tinthe game.and still lacking ergonomics, hybrid capabilities and price We have 3 of these 2 and on construction sites and one in the shop Absolutely the best tool in our work for so many applications
I want to buy my first router and would like it to be a cordless Dewalt. Should I get a combo kit that allows plunge and fixed or should I start off with this instead?
The anti-rotation cut off has been a standard feature on cordless drills (at least the Milwaukees at my work have it) for a while so they probably just implemented it to the router as-is. It makes a lot of sense on a drill as those have lots of torque and are very prone to grabbing and twisting your wrist, especially with things like hole saws. Maybe less important on a router as it is held with two hands, has lower torque and is less likely to grab (if used correctly) but I guess it doesn't hurt either.
Great review, seems like a really nice router! I would say my only "critique" of the review is that without actually dropping it Im not sure you can confidently say it won't shut off. Similar to the Apple Watch's fall detection, its really hard to fake, I would guess the twist is just has a much easier detection method. But by that same token I cant say it WILL shut off, just seems like you are stating it as fact that it won't rather than the possibility that it may or may not. Anyways, thanks for the review!
I’ve watched a lot of your videos and I am very impressed with your presentation, whether it be tool shows, tool reviews or tips and tricks. Can you possibly tell me which router would be compatible with the Kreg router table with a Carbatec power lift table insert. I made a mistake by thinking my Ryobi plunge router would fit!!! WRONG!! Just thought I would ask in case you have an idea. Thanks for your time
Since you didn’t actually drop it I’ll just say that it’s highly likely that a drop impact is enough to jar the thumb lock loose and shut it off. Of course, most of us don’t use the locks regularly so should it leave our hand thr trigger is released. I’m heading to the store right now, thanks for the review.
I would love to set a video on the workflow to do fine adjustments to the depth of the bit. The process I am using seems very cumbersome. I'm sure I will eventually figure it out a way to make it easy but at the moment it frees like a bunch of trial and error until I finally get it correct. On a normal non plunge router this process is so EASY!!!
Looks like it'll make a good hand-held router to compliment a much more powerful model stuck in a table. Doesn't look much bigger (motor section) than DeWalt's palm-sized. Great overview Matt.
Great review. You did a wonderful job getting close up shots of the features you were describing. Hands down, one of the best film jobs in a tool review. Of course the elephant in the room is which battery platform are you already invested in. The price really jumps if you’re starting out on a new platform just because of the features of the tool itself. Corded Festool tools have gotten my money more than once because of the high entry price of switching / adding new battery platforms. One of the cheapest accessories that Festool sells are the velcro straps that secure the power cord to the dust extractor hose. Just sayin.
So I’ve been in construction for years, but am just now ready to start getting into some woodworking. Should I get this one or the DCW600B as my first (and probably only for a while) router?
I started to tinker with woodwork after viewing your videos :D OK, I will not buy this DeWalt Router soon or ever, but I still loved the review and it definitely gave me some excellent information for what to look for when buying a router. Have you ever used Dremmel with a router adaptor? I'm looking at this device (Because I already have Dremmel 3000) and can't make a decision on whether to buy it (for small DIY garage projects for myself) or not.
I know this is off topic but my Dewalt cordless drills are pissing me off lately. I always hand tighten the chuck when putting in a different bit but sometimes it won't hand tighten and the chuck often just lets loose while in use. My 2 Dewalt drills are new within the last few years while I also have a Makita that is 12 years old with a 12 year old battery (lowest AH just the same as my Dewalts) and not only has no chuck problems like the Dewalts but also just feels more powerful. It makes me wonder if I should be switching to Makita for everything going forward.
P.S. I have the corded Dewalt router in the video and use it to flatten hardwood glued up slabs and also large end grain Maple cookies using an aluminum sled from stone coat counter tops.. Zero complaints.
Great review Matt looks like a great router just a bit out of my price range I do have the Bosh router and plunge base but the DeWalt corded palm router. Matt also wanted to Thank you for the tool deal you sent out yesterday for the Bora Centipede I have been saving up my money for one of them and yesterdays deal made it possible to finally get one so Thank you so much for what you do Matt God Bless
Does that new dust adapter fit on the old dewalt plunge router? Snug? I picked the old model up recently, and none of my dust collection attachments fit on it. But that new adapter, it looks like it's pinned identical to the dewalt variable random orbit sander? And I do have an adapter for that. Maybe I can pick up just that new adapter and get my dust collection sorted.
Fight the good fight of Faith. I noticed your T-Shirt. Thanks for all the tips and that new style of Dado stack blade. Going to subscribe. TKX Brother.
If you lock it at the correct depth, isn't it a fixed based router anyway? Could that be why it doesn't come with both bases? But yes, I agree at that price it should come with at least a basic edge guide.
If it falls while it's on, it will probably rotate as well due to the torque not being countered by a person holding it, so I don't think it's too much of an issue that it doesn't turn-off from a straight drop.
I have never owned a plunge router, but they look so fun ! I hate having yet another battery brand, but between this and their roof coil nailer , this really looks like the first I should get. On a side note, Milwaukee is releasing their cordless coil roofing nailer that looks like it could be a game changer, but not publically available yet. If you can get your hands on it, I would love to buy it, and you could send it to me after the review. Awesome content. I also loved the most users using wrong blades video. Even with my knowledge, I still learned from it, and is great to share with friends
Love it, been waiting to add a router to my collection. I'd almost suggest the nature of the shut-off being attached to rotation is better. The motor is spinning under use, so as you lose control of the tool it will rotate itself anyway and function exactly the same as the tip-over strategy. I might also suggest it allows you to hold the tool in any direction, if you prove you can control it. Would tip-over protection safe-guard your activity up-side down? Dewalt owes you a chq. :)
I always wanted Makita to make a cordless version of their 3.25 HP RP2301FC, even if it needed to sacrifice a little power. This Dewalt seems to tick most of the boxes, and has a cool dust collection system.
I just bought a couple of Whiteside plywood bits for a project that will require a ton of dados. That looks like a great router. I have plenty of (corded) routers, so I don't think I'll be buying any more at this time.
a note on the anti-roation: That'll use a gyroscopic sensor similar to what's in your phone to switch to landscape mode. The contractors that use a router to flush cut rough-ins for windows will need to do it sideways. you'd be getting lots of false-positive stops if it shut off on a tilt-angle.
easy fix. don't make it tilt-angle/orientation. make it angular acceleration (which is what the gyro measures anyway). it can start in any orientation you want, its the rotation that causes it to stop. set the acceleration threshold high enough that slow changes in tip and tilt don't trigger it. basically just a kickback or dropping motion.
I would be very grateful if you would advise me on what's the difference between the DeWalt DWE600 router and the DeWalt D26200 router? Many thanks in advance for taking the time to reply.
The problem I would have on a budget I'm already in the milwaukee Plat form so to change for a router just don't seam right to me but I do love the way they look of it but now milwaukee will go back to the drawing board and make a change on theirs I'm sure.
The sensors measure acceleration around the axis, not the position. A sensor that stops the router is it falls would not stop it if you intentionally use it sideways.
@@Glocktologist Which axis would that be then ? If you are doing a rapid light vertical cut, how does the router different that between a fall ? Such a sensor would need to operate in both the horizontal and vertical positions, which is why, I suspect it hasn't been fitted
I really like DeWalt cordless tools and I don't need this router but now I want one! lol But how would having a drop shutoff be a patent issue? It's a safety feature and they could change it slightly to avoid any patent issue. More likely it would increase the cost and it's already an expensive tool.
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Thanks- a good way to maintain smoothness for plunging is to buy some silicone in a spray can & after a thorough cleaning spray the cylinders to coat them... a lot of high quality bits have that on them for decades now- even works for your steel table if you are a shaper type set up dude... that silicone makes an almost frictionless glide... I am in the market for a new router since all three of my 5 speed EVS P=C 3 1/4 HP 3 1/2" plunge capacity routers have each been stolen over time & now you can't buy a new one... so will seriously consider the cordless DeWalt after your excellent vid
I wait for your videos every day
Ok, Now make it metric.
I feel when a typical power tool is run by a battery there should be an option to use wall power which will double as a charger. Just saying.
Metabo has the corded option on a lot of their cordless tools
I would pay extra for that option.
Dewalt did this with there dhs780 dual flexvolt mitresaw, u could buy a 240v adapter that plugs into the battery slot but it blew the motors
It is a surprising omission. They could just sell a transformer that plugs in instead of the battery. Seems like a no-brainer, and some other companies offer this.
It comes with that its called a charger and you put a second battery on it while you work.
From a guy who narrowly escaped massive injury this week from a rouge router flying around after a massive kick back while using a circle jig, that rotate shut off is going to be worth every penny!!
Happens when you least expect it 😳
Never mind all that! What optic is that on top of that MDT chassis?
I know more people who have been injured by routers than even table saws so I am not surprised by that. I think they SEEM not so dangerous so maybe peoples guard is down more with them or something. cabinet maker/installer for 30 years now and yeah routers and planers seem to be the most often tools I have seen or heard of people getting injured with then tablesaws come in close behind.
so you believe the router went rogue on you and not that you approached the cut too aggressively. like things just happen randomly out of nowhere for no reason and you dont know why. be honest, what you really want is someone or something to do your work for you. just do your own work and do it right and you'll be fine. or do what you know is wrong and you wont be
Learn anything about the incident? Better way to handle the tool, it’s never a tool problem, it’s the operator. Every time we have an incident in our ship we review the human error. We don’t blame the tool. Do better. Learn to do clime cuts, they will increase the quality of your work increases the life of your bits, reducing the fine particle dust.
And how did you have a kick back using a jig?
I just bought the DCW604 with the kit. Fixed base, plunge base with 2 dust extraction connectors for both and 2 guide fences with a Tstak box a month ago and I absolutely love it.. it is an excellent piece of kit which suits my needs perfectly. Great video mate 👍🏻
It never ceases to amaze me that manufacturers haven't integrated the power cord and the vacuum hose into one on mains-operated routers. This is so convenient to use rather than separate vacuum hose and power cord! Really short-sighted
it's an extra with festool
Have to add another comment, I wish I had more time for woodworking, because I love watching your videos. Hopefully some day, but I first saw you early on, and knew you were going places. I am amazed and proud to see how far you've come, as a great woodworker, great idea man, great Christian, and from what I can tell from your videos, a great father!! You rock!
Shout out to Whiteside: I was doing a lot of mortising for hinges in old windows on a building we were renovating. The problem was that as soon as the router bit hit a nail, it was destroyed. I bought a magnet to try to find them before I hit them with the router but I wasn't finding them all. I switched to a Whiteside router bit and all of a sudden I was zipping through small nails. There were also heavier nails that were used to hold the window frame in place, I really tried to avoid hitting those but the Whiteside router bit went through those like butter except for the noise.
Very nice! Watch your eyes tho!
@@JerryPonds Thanks, For better or worse, I need reading glasses for close up work. I don't think OSHA would approve, but I use them for safety glasses.
@@davefoc 👍🏻
Whiteside is absolutely amazing. And they don't cost as much as other high end brands too
@@davefoc I know someone who got glass shards stuck in their eyes when using normal glasses as safety glasses, there are brands out there that make safety glasses with prescription and I would HIGHLY recommend you get some before anything horrific happens.
Bought this first day available… its a great Router… one complaint is that when routing through epoxy resin it builds up a lot of static electricity and zapps the user repeatedly through the handles…
Would a anti static wrist strap help? (Eg the things you find pc gamers use when building custom pc's sometimes
@@MRacer001exactly what I was thinking. I’d bet it would help a LOT.
@@MRacer001 I thought the same thing lol I built my PC with my brother and I have some of those laying around somewhere
I'm getting old... Need the extra energy! 😅
Are you using dust collection for this? If so, and using a regular shop vac, it's likely coming from the shop vac. Get yourself a real dust extractor that comes with an anti static hose and I bet most of this issue goes away.
Looks awesome but that $550 for router, battery and charger is a bit of a barrier to entry if not in the Dewalt line up. Great review though.
but im in every line up
While not interested in this router, battery platform is not a big barrier. Get an adapter. I am presently using a Dewalt tool with my Makita 18v batts and an adapter. I also have adapters to use my Makita batts with Milwaukee and Ryobi tools.
You can get the Metabo HPT 36V Hybrid both battery and battery 1/2" plunge router for $199 all the time at Acme, Lowes , CPO and others with a 4.0/8.0 battery and starter kit/charger
We have 3 of them in our business and they have been out for 3 yrs
He just hasn't even noticed em even after multiple times alerting him to give it a try
you rather pay festool prices? these are a steal vs that
Cheaper than an ER bill. If the safety feature was the selling point for you.
Not only does this video make me fall in love with my Yellow and Black brand even more, I am finally sold on upgrading to the power stack batteries now. Most of my 20V XR tools are going on 15 years and countless hours of hard labor and home projects alike. I love the 618, but it pretty much lives in my table. I think my September 1st B Day is gonna be coming early this year!!! Thanks for another great review.
Make sure you get the 5AH ones for this, the smaller palm router goes through the smaller power stack in minutes.
@bl8155 I am looking at getting the palm and this since I don't have either. In your experience, how long does the power stack batteries last in the palm router since that is probably going to be the first I buy and most used?
@daniellecontreras637 I got the normal power stack batteries first and I was really disappointed, the router used it up in less than 5 minutes. The 5ah ones last ages though! I routed out an entire guitar body in multiple passes, routed out the pick ups and control cavities and it still wasn’t flat. The router is also really impressive, much better than the Makita equivalent. If you have budget, get 2 x 5AH batteries and I’d be surprised if the other hasn’t fully charged before the one you’re using runs out.
For reference on the price, it's the same as for the corded 3HP dedicated plunge router they make, so while you were comparing it to the 2-1/4 HP versatile model, it's a different class of router.
I'll note too though that you can buy just the router body for that 2-1/4 for a dedicated router table option, so for that there's options on how to use it.
That is one nice piece of a router. Being a big DeWalt fanboy I can't wait for this one to be available in my location (the Netherlands). The overload protection is not just a nice feature - I'm hoping that this will save on batteries. The battery powered circular saw killed 2 of my 20V batteries within a few months after buying. These were replaced under warranty by DeWalt with the brand new PowerStack batteries but all my other batteries keep running without any issue
I really love all the features of this router. I want the corded version of this if they ever make one. Makita had the angled handles waaaay back when. 20 plus years ago.its a very comfortable hand position.. Great video and Great review
3d print the battery case. Put the electronics to make it wired inside. Cable / transformer step down.
Matt you’re awesome!! Is there anything in the future building anything? I loved your videos when you were doing woodworking, you turned me onto this beautiful hobby and now I am doing so every day. Watching you made me what I am today.
For dust collection for dados, I'm wondering if you connected the dust hose where it would "normally" be connected versus where it is on the guide? Maybe that would improve the dust collection, especially if you set it up so the suction area is after the bit?
So you're saying push the router from right to left so the collection is behind the bit? Great idea! An edge guide wouldn't work for that, but a dado jig would handle that just fine. I'll remember that technique with my DW618.
I will forever love my selection of Porter Cable routers.
I have multiple 690’s, D handle and a PC trim router, but I’m tired of dust everywhere and have been thinking about a Festool.
The PC plunge seems like the springs need adjustment when you first get one.
I love mine too. I would really like to see a one-wrench design, though. Or at least have it so the bottom wrench can just be rested on the frame. I find I have to hike it up 1/4" and free-hand. It's never comfortable.
Yeah DeWalt is like Fischer Price compared to Porter Cable.
@@SupaFUZZZZZZ I wouldn't say THAT. I have a DeWalt compound miter saw that is the best I've ever used. I'm not a brand loyalist when it comes to tools. I buy the best too for the job.
@@SupaFUZZZZZZ Do you put a time stamp on your comment? I have all made in the USA Porter Cable. Have no idea what is on the shelf now but haven't heard many good comments about the current products.
I have a bunch of dewalt tools and was about to head out and pick up the festool OF1400, but now I’m going to have to research this router and see if I’d rather get this one!
Same here
Did you ever decide between the two?
@@KerrickLong I’m leaning towards the Festool. After buying 2 batteries there’s only a $100 difference in cost between the two and I already have a growing collection of festool tools with the dust extractor and boom arm and I’d be hooking up the dust hose anyways and have festool tracks to use with the router. The Dewalt looks like a nice router, but the cordless feature isn’t a game changer for me.
This thing looks great. I'm a carpenter and have been using an 1800w Makita for the past 25 years, which goes well, but the double wrench collet and the depth adjustments are so painful, that here i am watching this video. Does anyone know which manufacturer has the simplest collet design?
Triton
It looks strikingly similar to the Triton TMNRTR at $175 but it’s not cordless, has less features and only has a 1/4” collet. It does have great ergonomics and above-the-table height adjustment when mounted under the router table. I would highly recommend it if you don’t have the cash for this pricey alternative.
I’m have a Triton TRA001…things a beast, and perfect for tables. I found the design has the router top heavy and keeping it on the edges a workout.
I’m have a Triton TRA001…things a beast, and perfect for tables. I found the design has the router top heavy and keeping it on the edges a workout.
Is there any advantage to a fixed base versus a plunger if the plunger will lock in the down position
I don’t have this one but DeWalts cordless palm router 👍👍 by far my favorite.
My favourite tool too👍🏼😁
The Makita palm router is nicer.
Mine just came over the weekend. So powerstack or powerpack, cuz I had gotten the powerstack per your recommendation and it didn’t last long?
I currently own around 13 routers in various shapes and configurations... This one seems to check almost all the boxes for a quality 1/2" router and appears very versatile and capable. I skipped the Milwaukee 1/2" cordless myself because I didn't like the way it felt. This one seems about perfect for mortise locks ( I currently use the Dewalt 1/4" cordless for this) and hinges when hanging doors.
Couple things.
1. Can’t you just lock the base in place and use it as a fixed base?
2. How does it run on say an 8ah XR battery or maybe the new 8ah Powerpack or even a flexvolt battery?
And what do you think of Freud and CMT router bits?
It was designed in synch and optimised for the 5ah powerstack, but it will work with all batteries, from experience flexvolt make it too top heavy like the Milwaukee. 😊
Also you can just lock the base down if you wanted. I do that for biscuit jointing.
@@burwoodbuild I was thinking that might make it top heavy
@@Tool-Collectoryeah, positive thing is it does mean you can finish a job if the powerstacks run out of juice 🪫 👍🏼
2 things.
1)You did not connect the hose to the top when you did the dado but connected it to guide that had no access to the dust.
2) I am a fan of the best tool from whatever brand and just use the battery adaptors.
I have the ridgid platform, but use those batteries(with lifetime warranty) for some Ryobi, some makita and a few dewalt items and it works great with the battery adaptors that are easily available now in the age of 3d printing. Don't let the brand dictate what tool you buy imo.
I’ve never committed to any brand exclusively…my table saw is Delta, miter saw is a Hitachi CF8, I love Milwaukee cordless nailers and drills, favourite routers are Makita, and lastly Festool has the best circular saws.
Is there a good router table that fits for the Dewalt DCW620B router?
Hi, fyi this router is not suitable to be used on a router table, corded router is better so you can isolate the power in case of emergency. It can be used with a router sled though.😊
I see one important feature , which is the dust collector deflecting insert. This is a real good idea. It has long been part of the Leigh's accesories, too. . It is amazingly efficient, really. I like DeWalt a lot, they made a big step in reducing the annoying dust.
Tempting, but I love the corded routers I have, and don't have need to go with a battery. As other said, with dust collection, it is still tethered, so what is the point?
At 9:16 do I see the vibration of the router moving the stop-gauge (black plastic one) down the shaft? That's not good, if so....
Is there any difference in performance when using the 60 volt batteries?
I wonder if DeWALT will redesign the edge dust collection shroud to be like the Festool I have. I would find it to be super annoying that it doesn’t rotate. This looks like a really good router though. The wireless tool connect feature is limited to the flexvolt vac last I knew. It is super annoying when wireless vac activation is locked down. No brand is open enough to where I would want the brand to be. Festool is close because it is done through the battery and not the tool but they lock it to only Festool dust extractors. Makita is also close because they offer an adapter that plugs into any corded dust extractors regardless of brand that have a spot for a plug but the feature is locked to the tool meaning older tools are not compatible. Another brand has a feature that was self contained in the vac meaning any tool worked but you had to have that specific vac.
I love what you done with your channel.. from unbiased makers channel into a purely selling channel...
Thank you
Can this router be used with a Bosch router table? I’m guessing not since it doesn’t come with a fixed base.
I don't think so. It is attached to the plunge base without a way to remove it.
Another great review, thank you! I appreciate the honesty and not just a fake glowing review. 👊🏼
I appreciate that!
I was wondering if you do drop it wouldn't the shutoff system still work because when you drop something it does jar it and twist, doesn't it. Every tool I've dropped did kinda do the twist motion. Even if it didn't twist I would think it would kick it off from the force from hitting the ground triggering the twist action shutoff. I could be wrong and maybe it wouldn't work all of the time when you drop it ( which I hope isn't very often) but I think it would probably kick it off most of the time from the force of hitting the ground. Great video, I really like your content. I've been watching you since just after Thanksgiving last year and learned a lot from you. You were also one of the first ones I've found when I got into woodworking and have been with you every since (as well as some others I found around the same time). I hope you and Mrs. 731 are doing well, stay safe and Happy Building!💯 I will see you in the next one!😁
You didn’t mention it comes with a cone for centring the cutter... vital for accuracy when using jigs. No centring adjustment on the other cordless routers. Also 70mm plunge depth makes it best in class.😊 Nice vid… awesome router 👊🏼
Still must not have used the first to market and 36V and AC adapter capable Metabo HPT 1/2" plunge router that already revilutionized all cordless.routers and has been out for almost 3 yrs
Makita, DeWalt and Milwaukee are way late.tinthe game.and still lacking ergonomics, hybrid capabilities and price
We have 3 of these
2 and on construction sites and one in the shop
Absolutely the best tool in our work for so many applications
Hybrid just makes sense for some tools.
Who will be first to 10" 36v hybrid table saw?
Metabo HPT has had it out for 5+ yrs@@mrniusi11
@@mrniusi11metabo hpt already has a 36v 10in table saw can plug into wall or run on battery
Yeah I’ve got the Hikoki 36v 1/2 router and the adapter battery cable. Great piece of kit.
@@Itstimetogogo type of tool where you find reasons to use it forsure atleast in my experience
Matt the question I have for you when using it how quickly does it use up the battery? The example I am using it to flatten a slab
What is the model number of the micro adjustable guide for the router?
great video - but what are the three black spring loaded knobs on the base?
I want to buy my first router and would like it to be a cordless Dewalt. Should I get a combo kit that allows plunge and fixed or should I start off with this instead?
The anti-rotation cut off has been a standard feature on cordless drills (at least the Milwaukees at my work have it) for a while so they probably just implemented it to the router as-is. It makes a lot of sense on a drill as those have lots of torque and are very prone to grabbing and twisting your wrist, especially with things like hole saws. Maybe less important on a router as it is held with two hands, has lower torque and is less likely to grab (if used correctly) but I guess it doesn't hurt either.
NIce review! As a general contractor/ dewalt guy, I've been happy with everything I have in the 20V...Well made stuff...
Excellent, thorough and honest review. I'll wait for it to go on sale. I'm sure you will alert us when it goes on sale. Thank you.
Great review, seems like a really nice router! I would say my only "critique" of the review is that without actually dropping it Im not sure you can confidently say it won't shut off. Similar to the Apple Watch's fall detection, its really hard to fake, I would guess the twist is just has a much easier detection method. But by that same token I cant say it WILL shut off, just seems like you are stating it as fact that it won't rather than the possibility that it may or may not. Anyways, thanks for the review!
I’ve watched a lot of your videos and I am very impressed with your presentation, whether it be tool shows, tool reviews or tips and tricks. Can you possibly tell me which router would be compatible with the Kreg router table with a Carbatec power lift table insert. I made a mistake by thinking my Ryobi plunge router would fit!!! WRONG!! Just thought I would ask in case you have an idea. Thanks for your time
I'm not familiar with Carbatec. I have a Bosch 1617 in my router table using the Kreg lift.
Since you didn’t actually drop it I’ll just say that it’s highly likely that a drop impact is enough to jar the thumb lock loose and shut it off. Of course, most of us don’t use the locks regularly so should it leave our hand thr trigger is released. I’m heading to the store right now, thanks for the review.
Is there any benefit to having a fixed base over locking the plunge base?
Fixed bases are generally easier to adjust for some bit types like roundover, chamfers, straight bits, etc.
Hey bro what about using flexvolt 9ah on this tool does it perform comparably to the pouch cell?
I would love to set a video on the workflow to do fine adjustments to the depth of the bit. The process I am using seems very cumbersome. I'm sure I will eventually figure it out a way to make it easy but at the moment it frees like a bunch of trial and error until I finally get it correct. On a normal non plunge router this process is so EASY!!!
Looks like it'll make a good hand-held router to compliment a much more powerful model stuck in a table. Doesn't look much bigger (motor section) than DeWalt's palm-sized. Great overview Matt.
Great review. You did a wonderful job getting close up shots of the features you were describing. Hands down, one of the best film jobs in a tool review. Of course the elephant in the room is which battery platform are you already invested in. The price really jumps if you’re starting out on a new platform just because of the features of the tool itself. Corded Festool tools have gotten my money more than once because of the high entry price of switching / adding new battery platforms. One of the cheapest accessories that Festool sells are the velcro straps that secure the power cord to the dust extractor hose. Just sayin.
Thank you!
So I’ve been in construction for years, but am just now ready to start getting into some woodworking. Should I get this one or the DCW600B as my first (and probably only for a while) router?
I started to tinker with woodwork after viewing your videos :D OK, I will not buy this DeWalt Router soon or ever, but I still loved the review and it definitely gave me some excellent information for what to look for when buying a router. Have you ever used Dremmel with a router adaptor? I'm looking at this device (Because I already have Dremmel 3000) and can't make a decision on whether to buy it (for small DIY garage projects for myself) or not.
Awesome review, I had no idea this thing existed. Great job Dewalt!!
New tool… released as part of DeWalt’s 100 years celebration. 🙌🏼 😊
Does the bluetooth feature power on the festool vacuum?
What perfect timing. My mid 90's Bosch just gave up the ghost on me so I'm looking for a new plunge router. Looks like it may have found me.
I know this is off topic but my Dewalt cordless drills are pissing me off lately. I always hand tighten the chuck when putting in a different bit but sometimes it won't hand tighten and the chuck often just lets loose while in use. My 2 Dewalt drills are new within the last few years while I also have a Makita that is 12 years old with a 12 year old battery (lowest AH just the same as my Dewalts) and not only has no chuck problems like the Dewalts but also just feels more powerful. It makes me wonder if I should be switching to Makita for everything going forward.
P.S. I have the corded Dewalt router in the video and use it to flatten hardwood glued up slabs and also large end grain Maple cookies using an aluminum sled from stone coat counter tops.. Zero complaints.
The best bit about this video is your T shirt! Awsome! Stay Blessed!
Great review Matt looks like a great router just a bit out of my price range I do have the Bosh router and plunge base but the DeWalt corded palm router. Matt also wanted to Thank you for the tool deal you sent out yesterday for the Bora Centipede I have been saving up my money for one of them and yesterdays deal made it possible to finally get one so Thank you so much for what you do Matt God Bless
Does that new dust adapter fit on the old dewalt plunge router? Snug?
I picked the old model up recently, and none of my dust collection attachments fit on it.
But that new adapter, it looks like it's pinned identical to the dewalt variable random orbit sander? And I do have an adapter for that.
Maybe I can pick up just that new adapter and get my dust collection sorted.
Fight the good fight of Faith. I noticed your T-Shirt. Thanks for all the tips and that new style of Dado stack blade. Going to subscribe. TKX Brother.
would you buy the cordless dewalt compact or the plunge router for a beginner?
Compact would probably be best to start with.
I was skeptical, but I watched and I agree, this is a really well thought out tool.
If you lock it at the correct depth, isn't it a fixed based router anyway? Could that be why it doesn't come with both bases? But yes, I agree at that price it should come with at least a basic edge guide.
If it falls while it's on, it will probably rotate as well due to the torque not being countered by a person holding it, so I don't think it's too much of an issue that it doesn't turn-off from a straight drop.
Good point!
I have never owned a plunge router, but they look so fun ! I hate having yet another battery brand, but between this and their roof coil nailer , this really looks like the first I should get. On a side note, Milwaukee is releasing their cordless coil roofing nailer that looks like it could be a game changer, but not publically available yet. If you can get your hands on it, I would love to buy it, and you could send it to me after the review. Awesome content. I also loved the most users using wrong blades video. Even with my knowledge, I still learned from it, and is great to share with friends
Love it, been waiting to add a router to my collection. I'd almost suggest the nature of the shut-off being attached to rotation is better. The motor is spinning under use, so as you lose control of the tool it will rotate itself anyway and function exactly the same as the tip-over strategy. I might also suggest it allows you to hold the tool in any direction, if you prove you can control it. Would tip-over protection safe-guard your activity up-side down? Dewalt owes you a chq. :)
I imagine that tool would be top heavy and I don't like the extraction coming out of the top could cause an imbalance issue?
Will the festool edge guide and track side work with it?
Can you use it with the milwaukee router guide for track saw tracks?
I always wanted Makita to make a cordless version of their 3.25 HP RP2301FC, even if it needed to sacrifice a little power. This Dewalt seems to tick most of the boxes, and has a cool dust collection system.
I just bought a couple of Whiteside plywood bits for a project that will require a ton of dados. That looks like a great router. I have plenty of (corded) routers, so I don't think I'll be buying any more at this time.
Been using mine for couple weeks, can't say enough good things about it! Just love it!
How would dust collection work in sled mode? That's an issue with most routers.
Can you adapt it to a festool/Milwaukee track guide?
Over time, how are the stack batteries vs the reg xr batteries? Worth the $?
a note on the anti-roation: That'll use a gyroscopic sensor similar to what's in your phone to switch to landscape mode. The contractors that use a router to flush cut rough-ins for windows will need to do it sideways. you'd be getting lots of false-positive stops if it shut off on a tilt-angle.
easy fix. don't make it tilt-angle/orientation. make it angular acceleration (which is what the gyro measures anyway). it can start in any orientation you want, its the rotation that causes it to stop. set the acceleration threshold high enough that slow changes in tip and tilt don't trigger it. basically just a kickback or dropping motion.
Newbie question: How deep of cut outs can you do with a router like this? I need to do some cut outs in 1” thick tabletop wood.
70mm depth of cut. Important fact not mentioned in the video 😊
How does it compare to the DCW600?
I would be very grateful if you would advise me on what's the difference between the DeWalt DWE600 router and the DeWalt D26200 router? Many thanks in advance for taking the time to reply.
Sorry, I'm not sure about that
@@731Woodworks Thank you very much for your effort.
Nice router mate well presented it's over doubled the price in the UK.
How long is it likely to last? There seems to be a lot of plastic used in the build.
The problem I would have on a budget I'm already in the milwaukee Plat form so to change for a router just don't seam right to me but I do love the way they look of it but now milwaukee will go back to the drawing board and make a change on theirs I'm sure.
Matt, do you know if I could use my 60V Flexvolt battery on this tool? Great video, thank you.
You can, but makes it top heavy
how does it compare to the Festool OF1400?
what tabletop tripod is that? Looks like it folds pretty much flat.
The tilt auto stop would be an issue if you do round overs on timber already in place, like window or door trim in a vertical orientation
Good point!
The sensors measure acceleration around the axis, not the position. A sensor that stops the router is it falls would not stop it if you intentionally use it sideways.
@@Glocktologist Which axis would that be then ?
If you are doing a rapid light vertical cut, how does the router different that between a fall ?
Such a sensor would need to operate in both the horizontal and vertical positions, which is why, I suspect it hasn't been fitted
I doubt anyone moves the router at the freefall acceleration rate no matter how light the cut.
@@Glocktologist What is the freefall acceleration rate ?
Great review, but what guide bush fitment does it have.
Maybe a weird question. Why aren't there hybrid corded/cordless options for tools?
Not sure. Ryobi has some but their mostly things like lights, fans, etc.
It's pretty! Also, the only router that comes with a matching purse for convenient transport to the jobsite.
Looks like something that could make me swap out my 15lbs Triton. I appreciate the consistently fun and honest reviews on here. Thanks Matt!
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you!
That look like a great router, boy the tech. they are using is getting so good. I think it's a great router. Once again a great review from you.
Wow, Matt I’m loving’ that router! Great review! I’m in the DeWalt platform, but going to wait a bit as deals come up for Powerstack occasionally.
That’s a well thought out router. The ergonomics of it is awesome!
Where is it manufactured? Just curious, because may corded Dewalt is built in Italy...
I really like DeWalt cordless tools and I don't need this router but now I want one! lol
But how would having a drop shutoff be a patent issue? It's a safety feature and they could change it slightly to avoid any patent issue. More likely it would increase the cost and it's already an expensive tool.
8:49 what are you doing running the router like that ?
Did you hear about the new router from Mafell called Lo55? Its so cool. you don`t need a key anymore to change the router bit.
It’s a fantastic router with some cool features, been around a year now but it’s only 1/4” rather than 1/2”