Similarities Between Tamil and Kannada
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- Опубликовано: 13 ноя 2021
- In today's video we are comparing two South Indian Dravidian languages, Tamil and Kannada. We start this episode by showcasing some of the similarities between the two languages with Sneha (Kannada speaker) and Rubendren (Tamil speaker) each reading a couple of sentences that all contain terms sharing the same root. Then we will have a more challenging part with longer paragraphs in their respective languages to see how well they can understand one another.
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Dravidian languages are a primarily spoken in southern India and northern Sri Lanka, with smaller numbers elsewhere. There are many Dravidian languages and their roots go back to ancient times. Telugu (తెలుగు), Tamil (தமிழ்), Kannada (ಕನ್ನಡ) and Malayalam (മലയാളം) are the Dravidian languages with the most speakers. Other Dravidian languages with large populations include Tulu (ತುಳು / തുളു), Gondi (గోండీ), Brahui (براهوئی), which is spoken in the Balochistan region of Pakistan and Afghanistan, Kurukh (குடுக்கு / কুড়ুখ / କୁଡ଼ୁଖ), Beary (ಬ್ಯಾರಿ ಬಾಸೆ), Kui (କୁଇ), Kodava (ಕೊಡವ), Koya (కోయా / କୋୟା / कोया), and many others.
Just like their languages, the culture and history of Dravidian people is very ancient. Going back to the third century BCE, many Dravidian empires began to form and have a major amount influence outside the region linguistically and culturally. Empires such as the Chera, Chola, Pandyan, Chutu, Rashtrakuta, Vijayanagara, Pallava, Chalukya, Hoysala, and Kingdom of Mysore. The cultural influence extended to southeast Asia and locally developed scripts such as Grantha and Pallava script induced the development of many native scripts such as Khmer, Javanese Kawi, Baybayin, and Thai. Dravidian culture is unique and can be visibly noticed through traditional clothing, cuisine, music, architecture, literature, and much more. Although each region in South India will have it own distinct forms, there are similarities that can be found all across. For instance, similarities in the cuisines include the presence of rice as a staple food, the use of lentils and spices, dried red chilies and fresh green chilies, coconut, and native fruits and vegetables including tamarind, plantain, snake gourd, garlic, and ginger.
Dravidian languages have long literary traditions, with Tamil having the earliest recorded ones. Tamil literature has a classical tradition of its own which is very rich and spans more than two thousand years. Among the many historical works, the five Tamil epics Jivaka-chintamani, Cilappatikaram, Manimekalai, Kundalakesi and Valayapathi are together known as The Five Great Epics of Tamil Literature. The earliest known literary work in Malayalam is Ramacharitam, an epic poem written by Cheeraman. The Kannada language is usually divided into three linguistic phases: Old (450-1200 CE), Middle (1200-1700 CE) and Modern (1700-present) and its literary characteristics are categorized as Jain, Lingayatism and Vaishnava-recognizing the prominence of these three faiths in giving form to classical expression of the language, until the advent of the modern era. Telugu literature also contains many masterpieces, including historical ones such as Andhra Maha Bhagavatamu (Pothana Bhagavatam) by Pothana (బమ్మెర పోతన), Basava Purana, Panditaradhya charitra, Malamadevipuranamu and Somanatha Stava by Palkuriki Somanatha, Sumati Satakam by Baddena Bhupaludu, Kanyasulkam by Gurajada Apparao, Gayopakhyanam by Chilakamarti Lakshmi Narasimham, and many others!
All in all, Dravidian languages and people have a very rich history. The modern conception of the Proto-Dravidian language, which is based on reconstruction, is believed to have been spoken in the 4th millennium BCE, and began forming into various branches around the 3rd millennium BCE.
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Sir do with Pakistan dravidan brahui language with South India dravidan language
Hello Sir Bahador! I’m an Indonesian who loves to watch your videos and speak neither Tamil nor Kannada, but if I’m not mistaken, in 30:49 between the word “siriyani” and “balasi”, I heard one word that you missed in the provided text, and it sounds something like “seriyage”, so I just want to point that out incase you didn’t notice, so you could probably make a little correction on that to make the video just a tiny bit better, if that makes sense, but no matter how small I think it is always great to have text that totally matches with what the person is saying in the video.
I’m sorry if this comment might come across as offensive/rude to you, but as a perfectionist, I just want to let you know about this, despite any further action you feel best to take. Just incase you haven’t noticed this. I just feel that it would be such a regret if you miss the chance to edit the text just because you’re not realizing certain mistakes on your already great videos actually.
Sorry for the length of this comment also, all the best for all of your videos as always :D
@@IVANjeremy I believe South Indian languages are very different from North.
When did the 2 languages separate? As I know they were the same at one point.
@@faizullah6671 they don't separate they diffrent language of same family..
Kannada speak in Deccan plateau
Tami speak in low Plain lands of south india
ನಮ್ಮ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದಿಂದ ಯಾರು ನೋಡ್ತಿದ್ದೀರ ಹೇಳಿ ✌️
ನಾನು ಕೂಡ
ನಾನು ಕೂಡ
ನಾನು
ಇದೀವಿ
Illa aadare nanu Tamil naadina Kannadiga .
Speaking wise - Kannada and Tamil are similar.
Writing wise - Telugu and Kannada are similar.
True
Really True
That's coz Kannada and Telugu share the same script - Kadamba (old Kannada) script
You are Wiseman
@@stillthinking4707 🙏
As a half-Tamilian half-Kannadiga, this video felt like my childhood in a nutshell.
Wow !! I'm also Half-Tamilian and Half-Kannadiga . Happy seeing your comment ☺️
Cheers, I'm an half Tamilian and Kannadiga too..
Hey wts happening here 🤣🤣🤣
Well I'm from tamilnadu but a full kannadiga 😊😎
@@roopeshs6806 i am also full kannadiga but not having contact with karnataka only tamilnadu 😅✌️ i dont know kannada to read/write but can speak tamil mixed kannada and i grown as tamilian than kannadiga sentiments
@@yinyang8254 same here 🤣🤣im a Tamilan but grown in Karnataka Bangalore no contact in tamilnadu & i know, write , read , speak fluently both languages kannada & tamil
As a Bengalurean Tamilian I can speak, read and understand Kannada and Tamil equally, so it was strange watching them struggle to understand each other 😅. The two languages are very closely related, as they are Dravidian although the influence of Sanskrit is significantly higher on Kannada than on Tamil which is the reason for the difficulty in understanding each other.
Bro 35 percent of Tamil words have sanskrit but after 1950s some of it was removed. Because of political turmoil
Also I think you believe that sanskrit came outside India 3500 years ago according to some theory. But actually Ramayana and Mahabharata extensively describes Saraswati river which actually dried up 6000 years ago and Ramayana details location of Lanka to be near equator. Pointing that the divide of Aryan and Dravidian is artificial. Refer Nilesh Oak Ji works (available in RUclips also)
Not only that, if people are aware of synonym words in their respective languages there are more chances of understanding each other better.
being in Bangalore ur exposed to lot of languages good
Yes.Yes! Telugu,kannadam,Malayalam's are just the regional dialect of Tamil.mingled with Sanskrit!
actually it's painful to watch when you know both languages. it's so close and wondering how can't they understand kinda frustration.😂😂
Ikr 😂
Same 😂
So true man, 😂 unless i learnt kannada literature i was thinking it's so different from tamizh but i was shocked it's so close..
And shares the same words with one letter changed/ with different sound..that makes both speakers think it's not related to each other.. especially Tamils think why it is sounding like telugu/hindi type..or they question what language this is?
@@yinyang8254 I know right. It's same people, same language once, evolved into different accent and then dialect and then a different language altogether. Those who know both languages can realise that we are the descendants of same set/group of people (we share the same great great...... Grandparents if we trace back) 2000 years ago. But some language lunatics that knows only one language discriminate people. That's really sad.
@@hardciderenthusiast4268 💯 i agree word by word 👌 🔥😍 its the same thing i often think also...as you said language has its form when it gets far and have a different accents then it become a dialect and evolves as different language...but we have same ancestors like in tamizh we say " pangaali" means dodappa chikkapa makkalu
Who got seperated as separate family with own uniqueness with same roots...
I hope many tamizh people /kannadigas has to understand this connection soon..many seeing sanskrit as their prestige not own kannada words rgt?
Colloquial Tamil and Kannada are more mutually understandable .
Actually it's Hale Kannada and Old Tamil much more closer and much more mutually intelligible.
@@ralph6417 No bro it's middle tamizh, Old tamil is different from middle tamizh.
@@karankumarftw There is no much change between old Tamizh and morden Tamizh. Even three thousand years old Thozhkappiyam can be understood by today's Tamizh. That's not the case with other languages.
Absolutely! I'm Sri Lankan Tamil and I watch Kannada movies without subtitles. I feel like I know the language. Knowing Sinhala is a plus for me. The Sanskrit words are automatically decoded by my brain.
@@karthikvpc Yes. Thirukural is a good example too.
Vali - is commonly used word for Pain in Tamil spoken in Tamil Nadu and
Nōvu - is the common word used for Pain in Tamil spoken in Sri Lanka.
Novu word using still in country sides in tamil nadu
@@shankars7609 Thanks for letting me know.
@@shankars7609 Also the word Jamam is used as Saamam in. Sri Lanka. Janam is Sanam. All Sanskrit sounds Tamilified.
@@AmuthanVethanayagam yeah saamam means night right? We tamilians use that word not very often but we use it occasionally. It is just replaced with the word" raathiri"
@@sibiyae2880 Yes. of course. But poets and lyricists still use in poems and lyrics. Occasionally you would hear that word. Jamam and rathrri are sanskrit words for Night. eg. Artha saama Poojai.. Rathiri nerathu pojaiyil.
I am Brahui speaker from Balochistan Pakistan it's also comes from daravidan. Language.
From tamil
Very interesting. Were you able to relate to any of the Tamil words in this video? I find Brahui quite fascinating.
@@pissupehelwan Indus was tamil bro
After Aryan invasion
Tamil people came down
@@ashwinash9809 I have heard about those theories. I wanted some direct proof from Ali whether he could understand what he heard in this video. It is mind-blowing how Brahui which is spoken in a place so far away has connections to Tamil.
@@pissupehelwan wait proof
Love from mysuru, karnataka.
ಕನ್ನಡ {KANNADA)}, ಸಿರಿ ಗನ್ನಡಂ ಗೆಲ್ಗೇ ಸಿರಿಗನ್ನಡಂ ಬಾಳ್ಗೇ... 💛❤
As a Malayalam speaker, I find this really amusing. Even though Malayalam sounds closer to Tamil, Kannada and Malayalam share many words (especially words of Sanskrit origin) that are completely different in Tamil.
Why Tamil doesn't have Sanskrit influences if compare with its other neighboring Dravidian languages?
Any historical reason for it?
@@ralph6417 I am sure there are other reasons for this as well but I think it mainly has to do with tamils actively rejecting Sanskrit in favor of pure tamil. Even here in Sri Lanka, there have been movements to rid Sinhala of Sanskrit influence and retain native elements so o guess this is not very surprising.
@@malithaw
Actually they have,just searching some related videos and I found this video from this same channel.
Idk why people's saying Tamil don't have Sanskrit influences.
ruclips.net/video/C9LgftgL1f8/видео.html
@@ralph6417 Tamil has also been influenced by Sanskrit, but not to the same extent. The northern languages have been influenced by the Dravidian languages, and the dravidian languages have been influenced by Sanskrit.
@@tijojoseph3315
Northern languages influenced by Dravidian?
That's interesting.
I know Indo European languages like Sinhala influenced by Tamil,Marathi influenced by Kannada and Odia influenced by Telugu.
I heard Dravidian languages originated from Indus valley,idk it's true or not.
"Centamizh" and "Tirulgannada" are the ancient names for Classical Tamizh and Classical Kannada.
Ohh.. I don't know it as Kannada person...
What is Tirulgannada ?? I'm hearing this for the first time .
@@Variouscartoontopic Tirul / ತಿರುಳ್ in modern kannada means core or nectar in english. Here Tirulgannada means pure or kernel form of Kannada. Many other linguists also say Tirul/Tiru means colloquial. Hence it also mean Colloquial Kannada.
@@karthikbharadwaj9949 But Kannada language doesn't end with Consonants as far as I knew . So it's how come a word Tirul is present in modern Kannada !?
@@Variouscartoontopic in modern Kannada it is TiruLu. TiruL is the root form of it.
I’m a child of immigrant parents who speak Kannada. I felt good knowing the first sentence, but was lost in the second one. For The paragraph stories, I was able to get the gists of it but a few words went over my head
It's because what they speak in home differs from textbook Kannada. If she had used colloquial words, you'd have understood.
This is great sir. I want to tell that that Tamil-Kannada is one specific branch. They are sharing many commonalities but still very different languages. Karnataka state is very nice and quit diverse. Many cultures meeting together.
Tamil mother of South Indian languages
@@hariharannatarajan5501 It is quite an irony as on one hand Google classifies Kannada as the Queen of all languages in the world and at the same time calls it ugly.
@@nightowl1826 where😅
@@hariharannatarajan5501 lol in your dreams.
@@hariharannatarajan5501 lame joke
You have to bring Tamil person who has good vocabulary of Tamil words. Novu is also pain in pure Tamil, but vali is another word for pain which is used more by people.
A slight differance between novu and vali novu has wider meaning for any diseases including pain where as vali means only pain. Of course, both th words are used for pain
Yup, move also mean same in Tamil
Same for Kannada.. they should have had some one who has good kannada vocabulary.
@@Music-fi6ww may be it is Kannada influence.
@@hengdenglee1688 it is not kannada influence novu is common word between kannada and tamil I have heard in madras tamil dialect they will say dai naa appole irundhu endhrichi ukkanandhirruke ina kaal novudhu ra, kaal vali is used in standard tamil dialect .novu is also used in malayalam udharanathukku sollununa enaku malayalam avalo terile aanalu muyarchi pannuve enne kaal novum mone. Brother adhu kannada influence kedaiyadhu adhu rendu bashaile irrukura common varthaigal dhaa. Yedukkena naanu kannadakara naan oru alavuku manageable tamil pesradha kathikitrruke naan sinna vayasile irundhu neraya tamil padangal paathuttu vare enaku tamizh mozhi arambhathile avalo puridadu ille but aana adhatha deep aahi kekum bodhu terinjirichi enaku kannada matru tamizh le neraya varthaigalille otthumaigal irruku nu. Only verbs mattume change aavu. Kannada influenced tamil eppadi irrukudhu na dai maama nee naalaiki enaku seere vaangi kuduthirruviya thaane. Macha angae paaru ra avanue koti koti pano sampadichi kotishwara aahirruka da apro innoru udharana dai nee ivalo varsham irundhu kalayana pannikame veedhi veedhi suthuriya unaku yavaluve kalayana aagolu sikkmatala idhu dhaan kannada influenced tamil. Naanu local aah tamizh pesumbodhu ippadi dha pesirruve ungaluku first common varthaiku, influence ki difference enna anradha teriyadhu modalue adhadha terinjikitu ingae vandhu comment pannunge.
Alas! My mother tongue(tamil) and the language i love learning (kannada) are in a video
Thank you bahador for finally bringing this on the stage and i thank that u remembered my request😊🙏
Both did justice to both languages and it was really fun watching this and i didnt even felt like i spend 35 mins on this😀
Ella tamizh uravugalukkum and ellarigu kannada bhandavarige lots of love❤
We have more similarities than differences! ❤
As a Half-Tamil Kannadiga .... I'm poping up with excitement 🤩
Lots of love bro❤️
@@Variouscartoontopic yay! Great
@@yinyang8254 thank you ^^
I was born and brought up in Bengaluru. My mother tongue is Telugu. My father hailed from Tamilnadu.
Proud to be kannadiga💛❤
Proud to be tamilan
Jai karnataka 💛❤
I'm not proud to be from where I am from, does not make me a bad person?
@@leob4403 yes u won't because u living in blr physically but mentally u r tamilan da
@@drtoto4592 then live there only y u r coming soole
Original Kannada words
Shuru = Nadita
Jana = Mandhi
Raja = Arasa
Kashta = Biri ( difficult )
Tumba = bahaL / eepareet
Mantri = Sachieeva
Praja = mandiyaru
Sahaya = Kaiiaaga(beku)
Oh thanks
Thumba is original Kannada word
Wow please add some more
I find many pure kannada words very close to tamil
@@02abishekprasad91
Kannada and tamil both bifurcate from same language , proto Kannada-Tamil dravidian language.
The fight of Kannada and Tamil post Independence has been provoked mostly by tamil bhramins, who don't origin from south.
@Shah veer Navaneeteh what love?? Sanskrit is alien language for Kannada .
Kannada words better than sanskrit
Thanks for comparing my mother tongue #Kannada along with Tami, two daughters of Dravidian mother, two rich languages.
Hlow bro, Tamil is a mother of all language 👆
@@kdineshkumar3783 comedy 😂
@@Amoghavarsha. Tamil is the only Dravidian language today that kept Intact to the original Proto Dravidian language.
We tamils or not dravidian ok
@@kdineshkumar3783 Please do understand, there is no mother of all languages, they evolve and grow in many ways, before you can claim mother or origin of something, please understand that you have to be cleared of confirmation Bias. Also understand, It is for a reason they call "Ta-Mil" and the same way, there is a reason they say "Sam-Skru-tham" and the same way they would say "Kan-na-da" and like wise "Te-lu-gu" because, they don't originate from Tamil nor that Tamil originates from the others, the distinction in each language makes these languages branch out separately. Just because English is a germanic language, Germans here in the UK never say that English comes out of German and German is an Indo-European language with and links with Sanskrit, so, Sanskrit never claims that German comes from Sanskrit. Thats why there is the Pre-German - Pre-Sanskrit Language called Proto-Indo-European. Hence, the same way, there is a Proto Dravidian Tamil-Kannada base root. In this, I'm still trying to understand the exact distinction of Telugu.
Wow. Two daughters of the Dravidian family meeting each other and introducing themselves through Indian people living in Canada. Languages are as alive as their speakers. Thanks for such a beautiful video. I'm already a fan Bahador Alast. You're spreading the flavour of the languages which we Dravidians very much love and are integrated to.
Tamil is mother of all other south indian languages...
Please speak Dravidian language or show the Dravidian inscription
Idiot there is no Dravidian language it's a lie so please study well in history or general knowledge
@@sivagnanam5803 go study some basics of languages.
@@RahulVerma-iv8ph have you read all the basics?
@@kings1038 sir, i have read books of masters in linguistics
That Kannada-speaking lady must have been definitely listening to Tamil songs or would have interacted with at least a few Tamilians since she could immediately understand the meaning of azhaku which is a very commonly used word in Tamil songs. & she could understand the Hist of the sentences pretty well. Just my assumption.
Yes that's may be true ..Baglore people are easily speak Kannada Tamil Telugu easily..I am from North Kannada I am unable to understand most of words from that guy
@@sangameshdanashetti4200 The Kannada spoken in Northern Kannada is different than in South Karnataka. It is much further away from spoken Tamil, But a person very proficient in Tamil and also Kannada can understand other, I mean Northern Kannadiga and Tamil. When I mean very proficient, the Kannadiga should know Hale Kannada and must have read the literature, similarly the Tamil should have studied Tamil all the way through College or atleast High School. The difference between North Kannada and South Kannada is the choice of words, both Kannada and Tamil have a very vast native vocabulary.
As Malayali I can perfectly understand Tamil
Kannada A lot different
Kannada and Malayalam has many words of Sanskrit . If you listen to kannada carefully you can even understand kannada also. almost 60 percent.
Kerala was Chera Nadu before, one of three Tamil countries with three kings ruling the regions. Then north people conspired to break Tamil dominance, in Chera nadu, they introduced Sankrith to mix with Tamil to create Malayalam.... very sad.... now Tamil is gone there.....except they eat the same food...iddiuppam...puttu....etc...
@@Mr.talk1 Malayalam has more ancient tamil words than sanskrit in it.It's more of Tamil influenced. I'm A Malayali But being in Tamilnadu for 18 years.
but me as a malayali can't understand tamil apart from few words....didn't take the effort as I watch tamil movies after dubbing,,also as I'm frm northern most part of kerala we have almost no influence of tamil
@@varsha2692 Ancient tamil is different from The tamil now being used for speaking.I'm damn sure It has Ancient tamil Influence I know both the languages very well.
Your videos have shown to me that India is a world in itself where you will find so much diversity in languages and cultures. It's incredible!
Treat it as europe evry indian state = a euopean country (actually its even more diverse than europe but thats as close as we get😅) but at the same time they all have a common origin too . Its just india's own world and way cus of the complex indian philosophy we have in our lands 😁
For example:
This sanskrit verse from our vast traditions of philosophy and spirituality
Is one of my favorites and majority of indians know it
अयं निजः परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्। (ayaṃ nijaḥ paro veti gaṇanā laghucetasām)
उदारचरितानां तु वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम्॥ (udāracaritānāṃ tu vasudhaiva kuṭumbakam
Translation:
One is a relative, the other a stranger,
say the small minded.
The entire world is nothing but a big family,
So live magnanimously is what the intellectual believes in...
@@byron-ih2ge I believe to have seen you regularly on the channel of Apostate Prophet. I am also following both channels, Bahador Alast and Apostate prophet are among my favorite youtubers.
Indeed
@@joesmith4894 i see ur a man of culture, AP is a guy who anyone who wants to maintain a free-humanitarian world should know
@@byron-ih2ge Right on!! I could not have said it better myself! I am a big supporter of ex-Muslims, and my two favorite ex-Muslims are AP and Bahador Alast. Such great guys in many ways.
I’m Kannadiga from Mandya, I always liked how Tamil sounded. Love the language 😊
I'm also a ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ too. Love the way how Tamil is also unique. But at the same time, lets not ignore Tulu and Kodava as they are languages from our state.😀
@@DrLashie Kannada and Kodava are baby languages of Tamil, specially Kodava. Tamil is the mother language of every language on earth. Kamnada and Kodava are maybe 200 years old.
ಹೌದ. ನಾನು ತಮಿಳು. ತುಂಬ ಸುಂದರವಾಗಿದೆ ಕನ್ನಡ. ನನಗೆ ಸೊಲ್ಪಾ ಗೊತ್ತು.
@@NoName-bb2puwhat is baby language 😂😂
Where do you guys come from ?
Jokers.
It is saying in Kannada "Today's Tamil is similar to Old Kannada".
That's what uneducated people say because Halegannada was difficult to pronounce like how we feel about Tamil when we hear it. There's not much similarities though intelligible to some extent. Halegannada was a complete entity is itself.
Shivanagouda patil , that saying is wrong bro😅 actually not today tamil is similar to old kannada... totally wrong..
Today both kannada and tamil is mixed and not proper ones...don't bring it inside
But palagannada and old tamizh is more very close because even the word pale
Means old in tamil..
You guys more craze on sanskrit than your own blood related language isn't?!
You even changed palegannada and say halegannada changing first letter ( ha)
😫
If palegannada is there now, it's will have respect equal to tamil but you still want sanskrit by killing your own mother language..
Use less sanskrit and replace old kannada
@@yinyang8254 we are not Christian Brain washed Dumb ass people... Don't burn you Blood here... There is no concept of Replacing Ha and Pa in Sanskrit know it...It is Kannadas Concept may be.. Haalu, Paalu, Huli Puli, Palli Halli etc...
Halegannada (Old Kannada) and Tamil are just dialects. Sanskrit got introduced into Halegannada and hence modern Kannada was born.
@@தமிழோன் I don't think so.
There is another Dravidian language called Tulu which is spoken in Karnataka which is usually ignored. It was would be really interesting to see the similarity if you could find someone speaking Tulu.
😂
Yes, Tulu and Kodava Bhaashe must never be ignored. Sad thing is that in Karnataka, we forget to learn the other existing languages within our own people but rather learn everything else.
Tamizhan yendru soll Thalai nimirndhu nill... 🥰I love my mother Tamil🙏🙏🙏
I am a tamilian lives in Bangalore itself where I can read write and speak kannada and Tamil without a single mistake ❤️
I like very much visiting beautiful state of Karnataka. With a great history and lovely peoples. Even I am enjoying the nice traditional arts which some is not seen in other states.
Thank you Bahador Sir for making video on similarities between Kannada and Tamizh. Love from Tamil Nadu. Script Wise Telugu and Kannada are similar but grammar wise Tamizh and Kannada are similar and Malayalam too.
Exactly
Where does Tulu among them?
@@garyn8316 oh, I am sorry, I forgot that, I heard The sound of Tulu language. It also sound similar to Tamizh. But I have a doubt Is Tulu uses Kannada or Malayalam script?
@@vasanthakumar526
More over TuŁu has a its own script
But nowadays it has its been reduced using of TuŁu script.
1.Karnātaka TuŁu people use kannada script.
2.KeraŁa TuŁu use MaŁayāŁam script.
@@kartik6089 Thank you for the information. மிக்க நன்றி.
Vanakam 🦚 South Indian languages related to Tamil, ancient time they are all same people. Thank you for sharing 🌾🌦
@ஶ்ரீௐ vaanko na
This is nice. I was able to understand 90 percent of both languages. However, some of the kannada spoken here is hard to decipher (siri for instance) because it is textbook language. The Tamil spoken here is way different from the common spoken Tamil.
that is thuya tamil which was spoken early
Love to everyone from Karnataka, India
south indian movies have been popular all around the subcontinent that certainly made south indian languages exotic.Many people from Nepal,Pakistan ,North India,Bangladesh will watch this video
He is definately a Malaysian tamil based on his accent. This video was educational and entertaining at the same time. Both of them are awesome as they are very interactive. This guy got potential to be a really good tamil teacher.
Yes i thought the same that is certainly our malaysian singaporean english accent
Anyone who speaks Kannada fluently and clearly , can speak or understand 700 languages in this world. This was clearly mentioned by a renowned Jain saint ''Kumudendu Muni'' 1500 years ago, in his publication ''SIRI BHOOVALAYA''.Also Kannada language was the administrative language in and around Dharamapuri district in Tamilnadu during 7th century.This is mentioned in Tamilnadu gazetteer.
700 lang🤡🤡
Stop this non sence
Id that is true ,they why having 2nd 3rd langis schools?
Dont spread misinfo
@@stephenponraj9523 i think the 700 languages are all Dravidian languages like Konkani, Malaylam and maybe some Indo-European languages like Marathi which is very close to India. Remember India has about 10000+ languages (dialects if u call it) so 700 is not a big ask
@@rishkavas423 i didnt tell india dont have 700+ lang
This fool told those who speak kanadam can understand 700language without learning it
Thats a cap
Lol very funny ..can u list them
Konkani is not a Dravidian language. It is part of Indo European language family.@@rishkavas423
My Mother is Half Tamil Half Malayali, My Father is Half Telugu Half Kannadiga Tuluva
Proper South Indian 😁
@@nissar_fasil Indeed.
Wt a parents wahhh🤣😍❤
She: kalu
He: oh i didn't know because we call it kaal🤦 is it that big difference? I've seen many tamilians struggle to understand nearest words in kannada. I don't know why
31:10 goosebumps when even I'm Urdu speaking Pakistani predicted what the last sentence means,even before the Tamil guy got it.. what a wonderful teacher the girl is...
Just a small correction: thuralamena is basically thural+am+ena- drizzle-will/can- that and thural means drizzle not rain mazhai means rain.
I was going to point out the same... the guy is Malaysian, I think... so not very authentic as a local, otherwise he'd got 'novu'
@@uthrasriram9386 true he is a Malaysian Tamil mostly thinking in Malay... He doesn't know the nuances of Tamil and other indian languages... He has confessed himself in the end... His pronunciation of Tamil is also horrible... A disgrace to Tamils...
@@kandasaravanan1441 I don’t think it’s right to be that harsh. It’s natural for a non-native Tamil or any non-native speaker of a language to have a certain disconnect with their native language. It also depends upon the kind of exposure & cultural influence the person might have had w.r.t the mother tongue. I too used to have this feeling before..
Sir do with Pakistan dravidan brahui language with South India dravidan language
Im sure he is coming with that
Lets wait together😁
Yes brother
Whoa there is a dravidian language in Pakistan?
@@DrLashie yeah there is its distinct from south indian languuages
As a srilankan tamilian I understand this phrase and kannada has a touch of hindi words so i guess kannada has a part of sanskrit in it.
Sanskrit influence is more
I don't know Kannada but i can understand 80 Percentage.
Novu is Pain in Tamil Also. The word used in Some movie songs also. The guy don't know Tamil well. I think Tulu is very closer than Kannada to Tamil.
Second Word is i think "Adhikaalai Kanavu Palikkum Enbadhu Janangalin Nambikkai"
"Sahaayam" means help the word used in Trinelveli slang.
Loll Sahaya and novu is kannada word maybe its kannada influence.
Loll Sahaya and novu is kannada word maybe its kannada influence.
I'm a Tamilan living in Bangaluru, and I found that you can do some consonant shifts to get the other language's equivalent... Swapping B and V
Balyal is valyal (bangle)
Swapping H and P
Haallu, hoovu is paal, poovu (milk and flower)
And Vattu is Battu-Koli/ Batkoli in kannada (koli alone means chicken)
Thanks for the video, Bahador!
Thoroughly enjoyed it!
Jai Hind Jai Karnataka
Hello Bahador Alast, This is a request from long time regarding a video for comparision between Sanskrit and Dravidian Languages especially Kannada, Telugu and Malayalam. Hope you will bring this as it helps to understand sharing between language families in curent spoken forms.
Wow, this was a really thoughtful experiment. Extremely interesting how the two critically analysed each word with their respective languages to make sense of each sentence! Please keep up this great initiative and make more videos on the different families of Indian languages.
Great video! Thank you for making these
Salute to you and your dedication towards work
Much love for my fellow Tamil Malaysian here.
His Tamil doesn't sound natural. Especially when he pronounces thu. He was sounding it like 'thoo'
Maybe Malaysian tamil
@@anandutsav3329 No Malaysian Tamils don't pronounce that way. Its so artificial the way he sounds it, its like someone who doesn't speak the language often.
Most of the sentences of Indian languages end with verb. All Indian languages follow the same principles. Sanskrit influence is found in all Indian languages however Tamil language has iits own structure with less letters . All Indian languages are pronounced as they are exactly written because of sanskrit influence. Tamil language is a beautiful in structure with an independent nature with 9 clauses of nouns and old Tamil grammar is very complex. Even though I speak Tamil at home I find very difficult to understand Tiruvasagam and many complex literature. The spoken movie oriented Tamil is very simple made for convenience purpose. I know to read , write kannada very well . I was brought up in bangalore and I studied Tamil through my parents. I heard spoken Tamil is easy however the literature and sangam style of written scripts are complex and they are not easy to understand. I like hale kannada very much words very much. Halle kannada does not use sanskrit influence. That shows the beauty of kannada with more native words through indigenous flavor. There are many beautiful words such as Manne, oota, balase, Ulise etc. Even kannada can use many native pure words. Like that many Indian languages can use their own native identity . I love Tamil, kannada, telugu, malayalam , English, hindi , sanskrit and all languages of the world for world peace and harmony.
wow.
From what I know Tamil and Kannada were together as one language at one point. I am wondering why they have separated
@@123_unknown5 not through Sanskrit bro.
Just like how Hindi and English is diverged from the same language which is spoken around Steppe.
@@ralph6417 Kannada and Tamil have more similarities than Hindi or English, the former have diverged only 2500yrs ago, while English and Hindi have for 6000+ years.
@@infinite5795
Yeah correct.
My comparison should be like Hindi vs Sinhala or Hindi vs Bengali but not with English which is way more distant.
Kannada and Tamils are geographically seperated by ghats .
Kannada is a highland plateaue language , whereas Tamil is a lowland coastal plain language . Culturally people are too different . Kannadigas are more similar to Telugu and Marathis Culturally than Tamils . Apart from having same proto language about some 3K + years back , nothing connects Tamilians and Kannadigas . Infact most of us hate each other .
Thanks Bahador for making this video.
Queen of all languages in the World kannada ❤️
Mother of all language is tamil. Tamil language is created by Lord shiva. In ancient period kanada came from the root 🌱tamil. Sanskrit mixed with Tamil language like a poision and formed new languages called telugu, kannada and malayalam. Your father may be aryan sanskrit but your mother is Tamil only 🤣.
@@skid-ue4os kido all the best. Learn more about kannada from KARNATAKA GATHAVAIBHAVA book and not from Google. Grow up!
@@tibbusuhas4748 why kannadam is queen of lang ?
@@tibbusuhas4748 Hey nigga learn about tamizh is the oldest and the gratest language in the world,just grow up
@@stephenponraj9523 search it in Google we have wonderful language and script
She s from. Hubli North Karnataka. Not from Bangalore and I was her. Class mate in high school
Her name is sneha datar
@@pratibhadesai6268 Maybe she told it because bangalore is the best known city in karnataka.
Two sweettest language 💛❤️
Great video , also I would give some more information about Kannada .Dialects of kannada from different corners of state are so so different that sometimes people don't understand each other although they are practically speaking the same language. Also older kannada called "Hale kannada" might be even closer to Tamil or other south indian languages.
you are think of our state...according to writing system of dravidian language, it slipts into proto to kannada and proto tamil.
proto kannada slipts into new kannada, telugu, tulu, kodava and shinhala which speaks in srilanka.
proto tamil has no branch, but tamil and tulu combained and developed maleyalam. forget about dialect look at languages.
@@ravikirans5420 Ur a fool , sinhala is an Indo-Aryan language and not Dravidian language , also I was explaining about various dialects of kannada which u won't know if ur a non kannada person , and the evolution list ur telling is wrong: First it was proto-Dravidian then it split into North Dravidian (Spoken in North India) and South Dravidian which further split into Tamil-Kannada and then later split into 2 separate groups Kannada languages and Tamil languages , which have different scipts see Kannada-telugu have similar script and Tamil-Malayalam have similar. Go study the subject properly.
@@akshaykkulkarni6100 fool go and compare shinhala, telugu and kannada....
@@ravikirans5420 Just go check about Sinhala , it's an Indo-Aryan language. Check and then comment.
@@akshaykkulkarni6100 fool go and check properly
Rueben has such an energetic personality, and this was an amazing video 😂🙏🏻💙
Seems like a very nice guy indeed.
@@user-zh7yr1up8g Yes he is, and I’d say I love your name, but I cannot read the Syriac script 🙃
@@mravalik Ashurbaniapli (Ashurbanipal)
Nice to you meet you Kent and Ashurbanipal. 👋 I was struggling the whole time hahaha. Kannada was too hard for me! I just wanted to say, Ashurbanipal is such a cool name. We learnt about him back in secondary school history. Really nice
@@reubenismyname Ungalai santhithathil magizhchi nanba 😂🙏🏻
I have a friend from Chennai in Tamil Nadu so he has me infatuated with the Tamil (Thamizh) language and I even saw the look of horror in your face when she said her phrases 😂
A few corrections-
9:07 - munjaane (ಮುಂಜಾನೆ) is dawn, not morning. Belege (ಬೆಳೆಗೆ) is morning.
Yeah but I know as munjane, not beligge, it's totally new word to me
We use Munjane in north Karnataka not Beligge.
My mother tongue Tamil...
My native place kanyakumari.....basically i know Malayalam because border very
Close but karanadaka is very long i can understood many word of kannadam.its amazing
Kanyakumari people's tamil is almost malayalam itself..it's totally different frm that of chennai or other area tamil..similarly some kasargod ppl understand both kannada nd malayalam
Interesting. I learned a lot about south Indian languages!
first great respect for bahador's work. He's not just targetting the famous languages. The domari episode was just wow. @Bahador Alast , there's one more "dravidian" language thats way far from others geographically, in pakistan called "brahui/ brahvi". for the sake of our languages, we must propagate this video in our circles atleast.
I know kannada and also tamzl... i can understand both😊😂
Munjane can be broken into mun and jaane (jaava/jaavu). I believe mun means first and jaava means the hour (jaava actually refers to one fourth of the day, so there are four jaavas in a day). That makes munjaane a samasa I guess.
ಕನ್ನಡ 😍
ನಾನು ಕೂಡ ಕನ್ನಡಿಗ 💛❤🔥💯😁
@@SID-wf7ln he is a Bengluru konga
Kannada is very much understandable for Tamil person. Don't know why he struggled to translate. All south indian languages are clans of Tamil. If we know one language we can understand the other by 60 percentage atleast.
This is not true. The reality is that most South Indians are exposed to each other's languages due to travelers/neighbors/entertainment media etc. If a person from a remote interior village from Karnataka were to meet a Tamilian from a remote interior part of Tamil Nadu, they will NOT be able to communicate with each other barring hand gestures and a few common words. Kannada, Tamil and Telugu are all fully developed and distinct languages. However, Tamil and Malayalam are indeed similar and what you said applies to those 2 languages.
@ஶ்ரீௐ பொய்how can u call them clans.
@@pissupehelwan not true..I'm a keralite and i don't understand tamil apart from few words..and I think it depends upon the exposure..many people watch tamil,hindi movies here so they learn it..in my case I haven't taken an effort to learn tamil...and an ordinary villager tamil or keralite won't understand each other unless it's frm border area kanyakumari. .as I'm from north most part of kerala we have almost no influence of tamil
@ஶ்ரீௐ Kannada may but Telugu is not related to prakrit.....
@ஶ்ரீௐ prakrit is northern tamizh which is heavily aryanised during rig - vedic pastoral dielect migration.... Prakrit(northern tamizh) has 12 vowels, 18 consonants like tamizh which u can't see in sanskrit(artificial language) , so, anyway both telugu & prakrit were different dielects of ancient tamizh which is older than artificial language sanskrit.....
ಕನ್ನಡ ಅಂದ್ರೆ ಸುಮ್ಮನೆನಾ ಕಲಿಬೇಕಂದ್ರೀ ದಮ್ಮು ಬೇಕು proud to be the gannadigas❤ and love the language in kannada 🥰
Very cool! Seeing the words one by one, I was able to understand the Tamil ones. But it was probably very hard for them to guess just by listening. Good job participants!
The word Thiru means eternal in Tamil even though it is equated to Shri. You will see lot of place names starting with Thiru in south India. Tirupati, Thiruvananthpuram and lot in TN.
There’s a theory of Thiru being a corruption of Shri as is Siri in Kannada.
@@akashrao7496 I don’t think so. Thiru is a pure Tamil word. Lots and lots of use of Thiru in ancient Tamil texts. Also Sri coexists with Thiru.
@@greatwisdom2867 Thiru is in kannada also, but not in use, we have a town named Thiru Narasipura.
And siri means wealth in kannada.
Just to mention, 'Munjane' in Kannada means dawn and not exactly morning. And 'tanadu' in Tamil mostly means 'tanna' in Kannada.
Also, 'vaaLndu vandadu' in Tamil is 'baaLutta banditu' in Kannada.
'ena' in 'turalamena' is 'endu' in Kannada.
Munjane is morning just like Beligge I Guess. Maybe Munjavu is dawn. I might be wrong.
Nannadu is used not tannadu
@@bhagyagopal2484 Nannadu is 'mine'. Tanna/tanadu(ತನ್ನ/ತನದು) means 'its'. Both are different.
@@sudhakar7889 That is just how popular usage is. But in reality, both mean dawn.
@@microworldmysteries9150 adaradu means it 💀
Kannada and Malayalam next.
I speak Tamil, Malay, Bahasa Sarawak(Borneo language), and English.. understand Mandarin, Ibanese, bidayuh, Hindi, Urdu, Spanish and Bahasa Indonesia. Most of the language have a lot of common words.. nice to know more about language like this vid.
That's so awesome!! Are you a Malaysian (Sarawakian) Indian?
@testbug837 "Bhasa Indonesia" or "Indonesian" isn't a language though. Its just Malay mixed with Dutch words.
@@vicnad92 Hmm yes and no. Bahasa Indonesia is the name for the Bahasa Malayu spoken in Indonesia. It has undergone some transformation over the years. Like the vocabulary is the same for the most part but their grammar has changed a bit, especially their 'imbuhan' (Suffixes and prefixes)
@@reubenismyname yes. Because it was based off of the Malay variety spoken in the Riau Islands (a chain of islands near Singapore), thats less than 1% of total Indonesian landmass. The reason it was chosen is because, Malay was the language of trade in the region. Hence it should be called Riau Malay to be exact. Today, no one in Indonesia speaks "standard Indonesian", a language made by elites of Indonesia based off of Riau Malay, to unify the 1000+ ethnic groups. Most Indonesians speak their own mother tounge mixed in with "Indonesian" & "English". Outside of major city its more obvious. As most languages are Austronesian, they can get by speaking in different languages to one another.
@@vicnad92 Exactly! That’s what we learnt in history class in Malaysia haha. Whenever I go to Indonesia, I speak in Bahasa Melayu and they understand 70-90%. Also, I personally feel that it’s like British English and American English. Indonesians, in my point of view speak the more textbook version. In Malaysia, we call in Bahasa Baku and we struggle to speak like that everyday. But Indonesians do it so well. But yeah, Bahasa Melayu used to be the Lingua Franca. Watch Bahadur’s video on Tagalog and Indonesian. It’s very eye opening
Genuine effort to show the closeness between two Dravidian languages👌👌
She knew a few tamil words that most kannada speakers learn only through exposure due to neighbouring tamil nadu. He was right that as a malaysian tamil he had a harder time understanding kannada words due to lack of exposure to other south indian languages.
Exactly, they shud have got a Indian tamilian
This video watch is testing my patience when I know both Tamil and Kannada
i feel you brother 😄
Would've been much more fun if you guys used cognate words between kannada and tamil instead of sticking just to formal tamil vocabulary. Great video still!
We did that in the beginning. The sentences were formed using cognates that I gave them.
Thank you 😊😊😊 Bahador
There’s a similarity in Tamils and French people,they protect their language no matter what.Language is a key to freedom.வாழ்க தமிழ்.vive le français.
@ஶ்ரீௐ yeah but it’s their (French) attitude,they know English but refuse to speak English.like I know hindi still I say hindi nahi maalum 😅
Need a small clarification. Do these participants know little bit of other language? how easy it would be otherwise for a Tamil and Kannada speaker to understand each other?
Well, Reuben said he has never been exposed to South Indian languages other than the Tamil he was surrounded by back in Malaysia. As for Sneha, it is hard to say. Having lived in a city as cosmopolitan as Bangalore, she may have friends from different regions in India and with different mother tongues.
Im a tamil from chennai and my dialect spoken here already has a bunch of hindi kannada telugu sanskrit and other vocabularies
I find kannada quite comfortable and not easy
Because i felt some words are just pronounced differntly like
P -H shift
Palu in tamil ,Halu in kannada ,means milk
V-B shift
Va in tamil ,ba in kannada, means come
Also there are also vocabs seen only in kannada and vocabs that kannada has from ancient roots of dravidian which tamil doesnt or not prominent in tamil
And more sanskrit vocabs
So i conclude that kannada is more comfortable for a tamil speaker from any part of tamilnadu than telugu or other language except malayalam
@@02abishekprasad91 if u have a tamil or kannada friend , u can learn respective language in a couple of months
@@itme3929 yes exactly
I being native speaker of Kannada understood entire stuff told in Tamil. I am exposed to Tamil movies.
Looks like the Tamil person does not know a lot of tamil..
Munjanaye could be related to munjaamam a tamil word.. it's pretty easier to decode
But its a kannada word
But its a kannada word
I enjoyed this posts so much... I am not a native Kannada speaker but I understand Kannada, and I would love if you post more Kannada videos 🥰 - Thanks a bunch
Have to say you both are very beautiful people!
Tamil and kannada mutually understandable, also pronunciation hears like we are talking the same language in different dialects but script is absolutely different, similar to Telugu.
Nooo
No not at all, a kannada script is stolen by telugu
Plz , next video on similarities between Telugu and Tamil
So close south Telugu chennai tamil.
Very nice , Eilum ( brother).
She Kannada girl said Bangalore.. But it's bengaluru..
Bendaklu+ uru. = Bengaluru.
Uru is Sumerian word. World's first city name uruk.. 4000bc
We continue uru word as city place..in more than 6000 year's. Pls don't delete in 2021..
Use word ancient uru for city place word instead of ore...
road way, the Veda Bhāśā word "pura" becomes "vura" due to (pa, pha, ba, bha, ma, va interchangeability rule) which holds in case of all Bhārtīya languages but not always. "vura" becomes "ura" by losing initial "v" . This is how you arrive at "ura". This "ura" becomes "ur" in Tamil and "uru" in Kannada.
@@amritanshj before birth of Vedas sanskrit.uru is proto Dravidian word used indus valley civilization..
Before indus valley it's used in Mesopotamia civilization on perfect world uru..in 4000bc
May be sanskrit Vedas borrow pura from uru Dravidian word...
sir let me explain this, because Bangalore is correct for English language, but Bengaluru is native name. For example, you have country name India but native name Bharat. If the lady is speaking in Kannada language she would tell Bengaluru but she is giving introduction in English.
@@kiran9220 , no language on this Earth predates Vedās.
@@faizullah6671 banglore is Kannada name not English name..
So you change your capital Dhaka to British english name?
ಕನ್ನಡ is beautiful language❤️❤️😍😍
Interesting in Kannada the word she said for start (shuru), that is from the Arabic word شروع (shuruʿ). I speculate that this carried from Arabic to Persian to Hindi, but I did not think it would have been found its way to South India. Very interesting to say the least.
Interesting fact is Kannadigas had contact from Arab traders. The word "shuru" for start in Kannada is definitely of Arabic origin, but we have many more words in common like the arabic word "تمطر" for showers is same as Kannada word "tuntur", "باب" for door is similar as "bāgil" in Kannada, "منزل" for house is similar with "mane" in Kannada, also some kinship names like "أخت" for sister, "أم" for mother and "أب" for Father is similar with kannada words like "akka" for sister, "amma" for mother and "appa" for father.
it is in Nepali also ,I thought it was sanskrit ,probably it is not .Maybe it travelled to the subcontinent as you said.
@@karthikbharadwaj9949 Interesting. Thanks for the info.
The Mughal rule also facilitated many of the Persian word loaning! So interesting
@@reubenismyname mougal don't ruled Karnataka South India.. Bahamnai sultanate may be rule..
But South India connected with arabs 300 bc to till today.
6th century Islam entered South India
we kannadaga understand almost all language bit quickly 😊😊😊
Just knowing tamil and hindi, it's pretty much easy to understand kannada..wow...Tamil and Sanskrit are the basis of Indian languages....
😂😂 kamedyyyy
@శ్రీ ధర్మం sanskrit is only known by bramhins that's why it is a dead language...even my friend is brahmin he don't know sanskrit whereas his father and grand father know sanskrit....tamizh may be influenced by some words like kashta,ishta etc...but it has alternative words for that sanskrit words whereas other Indian languages don't have their alternate words for those sanskrit words....
Yes
🙏my mother tounge தமிழ்..... feeling blessed ...proud to be a tamil😍
Kannada in Canada 😃♥️
ಮುಂಜಾನೆ (Munjane) can be broken down. It comes from base word Munjavu(ಮುಂಜಾವು). 'Munna+Javu' (ಮುನ್ನ+ಜಾವು) where 'Javu'(ಜಾವು) comes from 'java' (ಜಾವ) which means Sun. Munna(ಮುನ್ನ) means Before. So, Munjavu means 'before sun and Munjane also means 'Before Sun' but its just a different slang of pronunciation for Munjavu. Java can be also take meaning like 'day time', where it is the time when there is light. So, it also means 'Before light'.
Wow that's great job 🙏🙏
ITS NOT KANNADA VS TAMIL , ITS KANNADA AND TAMIL
you guys are awesome.. from a proud kannidaga :)
Very interesting 👌 👍
Kannada tamils blood brothers but fought for politics supremecy like North Korea and South Korea.. On since 300ad to 2021---
But North and South Korea division cannot be made comparison to these.
@@faizullah6671 I talk on present situation only .
In past north korea south Korea one not fought each other..
Kannada Tamil fought ancient to till
@@kiran9220 But Kannada and Tamil today are in one country and North and South Korea are divided countries.
@@faizullah6671 before arival of British Kannada Tamil has two countries..
They Kannada called as karnata desha.
Tamil called tamilkakkan desha.
They have war btw karnata vs tamilkakkan . country
Karanta. Vs. Tamilkakkan
Rashtrakuta chola
Empire. Chera
Ganga kingdom. Pandya
Shihalru .
Only brothers can fight for the father's or mother's property 😆😆
In Tamizh part, seidhiyalarconnar (செய்தியாளர்ச்சொன்னார்) is somewhat less formal. It would be seidhiyalarkoorinar (செய்தியாளர்க்கூறினார்) which is more formal. Nice video.