The beauty of kinetic tremors + Firefly is the ability to handle trash enemies and Chunk down orange and yellow bar enemies. They don't need to synergize, they complement each other
Can confirm a zen moment, rapid hit roll with max range and handling in barrel and mag. It is something to behold… pure stat monster that does NOT move to anything,and is super snappy that just shots logs
Cross' original Blast Furnace review was one of the first videos I ever watched on this channel, crazy to think I'm still watching and still playing since then. I even still have my max range snapshot rampage Blast Furnace in my vault.
Can confirm one for all does boost kinetic tremors and kinetic tremors does proc one for all. When they are all proced Blast Furnace feels like an exotic.
Kinetic Tremors / Firefly is an amazing roll on this gun, it’s actually a workhorse (which is perfect since this gun was my Y2-3 workhorse). Kinetic Tremors smashes the trash ads that roll with majors, Firefly also disintegrates them and does decent damage to chunkier enemies. you wouldn’t think the perks synergize but you actually gain the ability to deal significant AoE damage in almost all situations. Kinetic Tremors / One for All is also amazing, the tremors start to hit really hard if you get a proper loop going. I have this roll on my Hung Jury and it performs phenomenally. I do wish that Bungie gave us scope options like the original Black Armory weapons had… Meyrin RDL is my favorite scope and it’s missing, which is basically my only complaint for the new Blast Furnace. @Aztecross I have the Headseeker / Kill Clip roll in addition to the other PvP rolls you wanted to try.
Please talk to your dad and plead that something needs to be done for M&k users. Last word, crimson and so many other weapons are practically unusable. Deterministic recoil has hurt the game for older players that don't have the reaction time. Also the pattern changes as the weapon is fired which seems unnecessary and difficult to counter. One last thing why isn't the radar ar the top of the screen in the center? You don't look down and to the left to check gauges when driving. Maybe you were joking about where your dad works, if so ignore me.
I don't have enough vault space for all these Blast Furnace drops I've been getting lately. 1st drop was Head Seeker and Kill Clip w/99 Stability and shred in PvP. 2nd drop was Kinect Tremors and Firefly. 3rd drop was Head Seeker and Kill Clip with 100 range.
Your most wanted pvp roll with right Barrel masterwork and all the good stuff + headseeker and kill clip entered my inventory yesterday i can confirm its nuts
I got a brave with kinetic tremors and one for all, this thing is mean in all endgame content. Especially in onslaught starting at wave 40 on normal. I'm a big fan of this combo. And it does boost tremor damage. Tested on carl.
I have tried all week to get that headseeker/rapid hit roll but in the maybe two rolls I have gotten with it, it has the absolute worst barrel, mag, and masterwork😭
i think the ideal Shiny for this would be Kinetic Tremors/Shoot to Loot and Frenzy/Firefly. You get a beast as clear weapon and can swap to damage on the fly if need be
i have this roll and it feels good, for red bars is clears ads really nice with firefly, but when shooting an orange bar the kinetic tremors really helps pump out dps
I literally just got a shiny with zen moment + either kill clip or rapid hit. The barrel and magazine get it to 99 range and it has a reload masterwork. Can’t wait to bring it into the crucible!
My first drop of Blast Furnace was Snapshot/Rapid Hit. It sits at 99 range, blue balled right at the door to the big 100. I wasn't sure what I expected from it, but it feels so snappy in the little bit of pvp I've gotten done this week.
i got a shiny with headseeker/perpetual motion and kill clip/rampage. it also has the range masterwork with arrowhead brake and accurized rounds so i got that 99 :D love it for both pvp and pve
Some brave weapons have been better than in the past some just okay. This is one of the better ones. I don’t use pulse rifles ever. But brother I got tremors one for all with nice stability, and my god I don’t take it off. Love love love it. Kinetic tremors isn’t great most the time but this is one of the ones you need it on for pve
I have all the rolls your looking for. Honestly the one that helped the sluggish handling the best was snapshot. That was the only perk that didnt make it feel as if youre lugging around a mac truck
18:46 CROSS I HAVE THE ZEN MOMENT AND RAPID HIT ROLL: Hammer forged/arrowhead Appended mag Rapid hit Zen moment Range masterwork 99 range 67 stability 65 recoil direction And yes! It feels insane! Consistency rool.
@@ItsRedsWorld and when the option is KT and OFA or…not that, I pick that. No legendary auto is doing the overload job as well and no legendary pulse is as strong.
Ran a master Dungeon yesterday. Using a kinetic pulse for the overloads with kinetic tremors was clutch. Paired with merciless and edge transit it worked well.
I know you may not see this Cross, funnily enough, I was using Blast Furnace in the game we played together and thought I'd better not end up on this review hahaha! It was fun matching against you. Would be awesome to play again sometime!
I’ve got one with Arrowhead, Tac mag, stability masterwork, Zen, and Rapid and it feels amazing, great against explosive payload weapons or anything that deals a lot of flinch!
Tried many rolls on this, and I think Headseeker + Rapid Hit is the most consistent combination you can get. The extra lethality with Kill Clip and others is great but useless if your bursts dont land. Zen Moment also does feel impactful on this gun too somehow. Handling masterwork is definitely the play because this thing is HEAVY.
@Aztecross I did manage to get a rapid hit zen moment a day or two ago and it works pretty solid for me still going to do some more testing but would recommend if you want your shots to be stable 18:50
Was waiting for this review! Also don't overlook perpetual motion, some of my favorite rolls for PvP have perpetual motion which gets my stability up to 99 while also having range past 40 meters, not to mention the handling and reload buffs.
One for all improves Kinetic Tremors and onxe you proc that most likely you will hit many targets, especially in Onslaught, so it's very nice to have. It really pumps up the damage vs Overload Champions.
Do not sleep on Perpetual Motion. Its great for beefing up your stats further, driving up your stability in the 80-100 with a perk of stability from barrels, mags, or masterwork. Also beefing up handling for the quicker ADS speed, giving it more leeway against targets in PvP. Ever since I crafted ReZero with Perpetual, I've considered finding rolls with it for all my weapons as the beefed up stats helped greatly in PvP and good for PvE as well.
I can’t help but feel people are sleeping on perpetual motion now. It isn’t always the best, but in the case of this weapon it’s amazing. It gives 20 free stats to stability, handling and reload speed. The later 2 being the most important in this case. I literally have a roll with 94 range, 99 stability, 44 handling and 56 reload speed with perpetual active. Don’t need head-seeker when the weapon’s a laser.
I have been testing many of these out including Kill clip with Headseeker, and so far the best PvP performance as been an ultra stability role - Chambered Compensator, Steady Rounds, Zen Moment, Rapid Hit - with stability masterwork. It 2 taps with ease.
Rapid hit is a waste. Your weapons already at 99 stability. Use a damage perk in the final column or if using rapid hit then change steady rounds and barrel to something with more range and handling to help balance out the gun
So as others have stated: OFA will increase Kinetic Tremors damage. But I just discovered that Desperate Measures can too. Although OFA + KT is obviously the pick for above LL content like GMs I would be on the look out for one to see if it fits your loadout/playstyle. The tremor kills will refresh the DM perk so all you need is a multi kill with your melee or grenade to get that x3.
7:05 You don't need tac mag for extra reload speed. Frenzy grants 100 handling and 100 reload with a 15% damage increase to the weapon. Anything boosting reload while frenzy is active is useless.
Chromatic Fire chest Plus this weapon with tremors and frenzy void sub class and you have the best consistency in my opinion. the weakeness in aoe plus the fact that you proc a dragonfly type on the precision hit from the chest all in all it will work in any type of content pve wise.
My shiny is arrowhead, flared magwell, zen moment, and rapid hit with a range MW and I can definitely say it feels extremely smooth. It is also very difficult to be flinched off of my crit shots with that perk set. If you get one I strongly suggest trying it.
I feel like the talk of enhanceable traits in the final shape is being overstated. I guarentee its gonna be expensive, using items you might not be able to farm (or atleast consistently). I bet we are going to have to be very pick-and-choose about this like when we got those items that turns normal drops into red borders
Kinetic Tremors does more damage with hand cannons like Midnight Coup vs. Kinetic Tremors on a pulse. Still, it's good. I have a Battle Scar with Kinetic Tremors and Shoot to Loot, it's a PvE champion.
My godroll for me is tremors and rampage, damaging a boss while it’s surrounded by redbars, tremors does proc rampage while I’m only damaging the boss.
I would love to see a PvP comparison of Belisarus to Blast Furnace! I feel like nobody is talking about Belisarius anymore cause everyone forgot, but I bet if feels great after the sandbox change
I love my Kinetic tremor and One For All for PVE, throwing down a hunter tether and just beaming the more tanky adds. You constantly proc OFA over and over .
I had a shinny drop last night with arrowhead, accurized rounds, kinetic tremors or perpetual motion, Frenzy or Firefly. I played with it for a bit last night it felt good. I thought the tremors/ firefly combo felt better than the tremors/frenzy combo, but I could see both being useful in different situations.
The best role that I got was kinetic tremors and one for all. One for all boost the attack power of kinetic tremors and kinetic trimmers triggers one for all if you're firing at a yellow bar surrounded by mobs. The shock waves count as hitting other targets so it will always proc one for all.
Got a limited edition one with polygonal rifling, tactical mag, kinetic tremors with keep away as an option, and desperate measures with frenzy as another option.
i managed to get a gold blast furnace with extended barrel/full bore, extended mag/steady rounds, keep away/kinetic tremors, and kill clip/frenzy and i must say i'm happy with it :)
Best I’ve gotten for pvp so far is polygonal rifling, accurized rounds, keep away, rapid hit and range masterwork. 99 range before keepaway and 74 stability. With full stacks of rapid hit it and keep away active it’ll go to 100 range and 99 stability. It’s been fun so far
Don’t sleep on Kinetic Tremors on Blast Furnace (and Chattering Bone) in PvP. If you end up missing the ideal TTK and have to fire an extra burst, you’ll probably activate KT and get a pretty much guaranteed kill. It reminds me of Malfeasance where hitting the fastest TTK won’t activate the perk, but if you end up needing any extra shots, it’ll clean them up every time.
I have a shiny arrowhead, zen, kill clip/rapid hit, range masterwork. Just no accurized rounds. I have flared magwell or tactical mag. Zen and rapid feels very smooth
I've been using an arrowhead/steady rounds/zen moment/frenzy for pvp. It feels good but I've been on the hunt for the all around roll that will have me me singing. Don't get me wrong, this room feels amazing but it doesn't give me the 2 round burst kill quite often but it feels amazing.
Can’t rampage reproc on top of its self without waiting for a timer to expire before refreshing it? With Kinetic tremors couldn’t that kind of carry rampage to x3 constantly?
I farmed the crap out of this gun and because of the the large perk pool wasn't able to get the 5 out of 5 perk combo. I tried lesser versions and on m&k it doesn't feel like the og BF. Deterministic recoil has hurt BF. Most players might agree with me becuz I haven't seen it being used in IB or comp. Maybe it's better on controller, would like to hear your thoughts from controller players.
I've got a KT + rapid hit roll with extended mag and I slapped a backup mag on it and 64 rounds in the mag is so nice as I'm able to proc KT at least 3 times in a single mag and I'm in love with it and I'm still trying to get KT + Frenzy
I got on for the first time in 2 years and my old forge blast furnace was the first gun I picked up. It's a weird one lol but I was 2 bursting quit often. Has zen moment rampage. Arrowhead and can't remember the other but I play with a nacon controller on pc. Always a console player but coming back after so long I figured I'd try it on pc and see how it went. Feels good.
I do have the zen moment and rapid hit roll, zen moment and kill clip as well. One of thse days might have to drop by the stream and let you try them out.
The kinetic Tremors and firefly combo is really good. Im really enjoying the loot hunting, the question is, why does it have to take five five-alarm fire to get Bungie to focus on loot in a looter shooter?
The beauty of kinetic tremors + Firefly is the ability to handle trash enemies and Chunk down orange and yellow bar enemies. They don't need to synergize, they complement each other
Got this roll from my first blast furnace roll so lucky
This is my view too.
Kinetic tremors and one for all is the best roll you can get. It murders everything you shoot.
Firefly and frenzy is the better roll especially onslaught where it’s longer fights
@@mybags_a_dragon Those are both in the same column, can't have that as a combo
One-for-All will in fact boost Kinetic Tremors damage.
i thought it didnt.. didnt they test this?
I have it and it’s the best roll you can get for pve. It murders everything so fast.
@@adg3793it does work together. Coolguy did a video about this in his hung jury video.
@@adg3793 I personally tested it, and it does in fact buff tremor damage.
I have that too, it's literally a primary fusion rifle
Can confirm a zen moment, rapid hit roll with max range and handling in barrel and mag. It is something to behold… pure stat monster that does NOT move to anything,and is super snappy that just shots logs
And it’s not even enhanced yet 😮
@@KayronThomy god... imagine the power
Sheesh straight laser
The og blast furnace was my favorite legendary gun in Destiny history so I’m glad they did it justice when bringing it back
i have the kinetic tremors + OFA roll, and OFA does indeed give the damage boost to the tremors 👍🏼
I grinded my nuts off for this roll. Probably 200 tokens and near 200 rolls before I got it. Worth it.
Isnt this the roll everyone gets on the first drop 😂😂
@@Rinickulous1106if you're talking about the curated roll, that's perpetual motion and kill clip
This dropped on my first shiny version and i love it.
Cross' original Blast Furnace review was one of the first videos I ever watched on this channel, crazy to think I'm still watching and still playing since then. I even still have my max range snapshot rampage Blast Furnace in my vault.
Can confirm one for all does boost kinetic tremors and kinetic tremors does proc one for all. When they are all proced Blast Furnace feels like an exotic.
Kinetic Tremors / Firefly is an amazing roll on this gun, it’s actually a workhorse (which is perfect since this gun was my Y2-3 workhorse). Kinetic Tremors smashes the trash ads that roll with majors, Firefly also disintegrates them and does decent damage to chunkier enemies. you wouldn’t think the perks synergize but you actually gain the ability to deal significant AoE damage in almost all situations.
Kinetic Tremors / One for All is also amazing, the tremors start to hit really hard if you get a proper loop going. I have this roll on my Hung Jury and it performs phenomenally.
I do wish that Bungie gave us scope options like the original Black Armory weapons had… Meyrin RDL is my favorite scope and it’s missing, which is basically my only complaint for the new Blast Furnace.
@Aztecross I have the Headseeker / Kill Clip roll in addition to the other PvP rolls you wanted to try.
My Dad works at Bungie and he said One-For_all DOES boost Kinetic Tremors damage :)
Love you Son
Please talk to your dad and plead that something needs to be done for M&k users. Last word, crimson and so many other weapons are practically unusable. Deterministic recoil has hurt the game for older players that don't have the reaction time. Also the pattern changes as the weapon is fired which seems unnecessary and difficult to counter. One last thing why isn't the radar ar the top of the screen in the center? You don't look down and to the left to check gauges when driving. Maybe you were joking about where your dad works, if so ignore me.
I don't have enough vault space for all these Blast Furnace drops I've been getting lately. 1st drop was Head Seeker and Kill Clip w/99 Stability and shred in PvP. 2nd drop was Kinect Tremors and Firefly. 3rd drop was Head Seeker and Kill Clip with 100 range.
Your most wanted pvp roll with right Barrel masterwork and all the good stuff + headseeker and kill clip entered my inventory yesterday i can confirm its nuts
I got a brave with kinetic tremors and one for all, this thing is mean in all endgame content. Especially in onslaught starting at wave 40 on normal. I'm a big fan of this combo. And it does boost tremor damage. Tested on carl.
On normal🤣
@@cfcbailey7583 L comment xD
@@cfcbailey7583Rewards are close enough to legend that you might as well run normal if you can’t find a competent team.
My first drop of Blast Furnace was Arrowhead brake, accurized rounds, headseeker , killclip and a range masterwork
Picked up a kinetic tremors rampage roll and am enjoying it so far
I have tried all week to get that headseeker/rapid hit roll but in the maybe two rolls I have gotten with it, it has the absolute worst barrel, mag, and masterwork😭
Disparity with RH HS is my only gun with over 2000 crucible kills, I want the upgrade so bad 😩
I’m grindin with you brother we got this 💪
Story of my Destiny life.
Oh but don't worry Bungie gave you those extra 3 weeks to grind (or however long it was for the super rolls) 😂🙈
Keep saying that Tremors and Firefly don't synergize, but I see it as an adclear roll that can also pump out single target damage when needed.
i think the ideal Shiny for this would be Kinetic Tremors/Shoot to Loot and Frenzy/Firefly. You get a beast as clear weapon and can swap to damage on the fly if need be
i have this roll and it feels good, for red bars is clears ads really nice with firefly, but when shooting an orange bar the kinetic tremors really helps pump out dps
Use a special weapon. Kinetic tremors has never been as good as people want it to be.
primary weapon... single target damage...
Got that a couple days ago. My new pve legendary primary!
Zen Moment Rapid hit is MY BABBBBYYYYY. I LOVE the way it feels. whilst also having arrowhead Break and a stability MW. It feels PHENOMENAL
Glad i have the old one, with feeding frenzy rampage and the old scope, love it
Love your content, sir. Please don't ever change.
I'm a controller player with a zen moment rapid hit roll... it's amazingly smooth
I literally just got a shiny with zen moment + either kill clip or rapid hit. The barrel and magazine get it to 99 range and it has a reload masterwork. Can’t wait to bring it into the crucible!
My first drop of Blast Furnace was Snapshot/Rapid Hit.
It sits at 99 range, blue balled right at the door to the big 100.
I wasn't sure what I expected from it, but it feels so snappy in the little bit of pvp I've gotten done this week.
Love this gun being back. Me personally I'm looking at kinetic tremors and frenzy
Got it gold with firefly in the same row as frenzy if I go solar I like frenzy better tho
i got a shiny with headseeker/perpetual motion and kill clip/rampage. it also has the range masterwork with arrowhead brake and accurized rounds so i got that 99 :D love it for both pvp and pve
Got the Headseeker/KC. Arrowhead/Accurized, range mw.
Its truly a beautiful thing
Some brave weapons have been better than in the past some just okay. This is one of the better ones. I don’t use pulse rifles ever. But brother I got tremors one for all with nice stability, and my god I don’t take it off. Love love love it. Kinetic tremors isn’t great most the time but this is one of the ones you need it on for pve
Just wait we can enhance KTremors!!
I currently have a shiny version of Kinetic/Firefly and I've been enjoying it along with the keep away/kill clip!
I have all the rolls your looking for. Honestly the one that helped the sluggish handling the best was snapshot. That was the only perk that didnt make it feel as if youre lugging around a mac truck
18:46 CROSS I HAVE THE ZEN MOMENT AND RAPID HIT ROLL:
Hammer forged/arrowhead
Appended mag
Rapid hit
Zen moment
Range masterwork
99 range
67 stability
65 recoil direction
And yes! It feels insane! Consistency rool.
My most favourite gun ever in Destiny and the first one I really really ground for until I got the roll I wanted.
Been waiting forever for this review! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
KT + OFA has been feeling very strong, the KT&FF combo is a solid alternative when I’m using a precision-focused exotic like Nighthawk or Chromatic.
What? Its a legendary pulse sir
@@ItsRedsWorld and when the option is KT and OFA or…not that, I pick that. No legendary auto is doing the overload job as well and no legendary pulse is as strong.
Ran a master Dungeon yesterday. Using a kinetic pulse for the overloads with kinetic tremors was clutch. Paired with merciless and edge transit it worked well.
I know you may not see this Cross, funnily enough, I was using Blast Furnace in the game we played together and thought I'd better not end up on this review hahaha! It was fun matching against you. Would be awesome to play again sometime!
I actually got a head seeker/kill clip and a kinetic tremors/kill clip roll last night. I’m looking forward to trying them out.
I’ve got one with Arrowhead, Tac mag, stability masterwork, Zen, and Rapid and it feels amazing, great against explosive payload weapons or anything that deals a lot of flinch!
Tried many rolls on this, and I think Headseeker + Rapid Hit is the most consistent combination you can get. The extra lethality with Kill Clip and others is great but useless if your bursts dont land. Zen Moment also does feel impactful on this gun too somehow. Handling masterwork is definitely the play because this thing is HEAVY.
I have a
Arrowhead Bread
Extended Mag
Zen Moment
Rapid Hit
Stability Masterwork
It’s essentially a burst fire trace rifle.
I am super stoked that this weapon came back. I loved it during Black Armory days and I love it now 🤩!
@Aztecross I did manage to get a rapid hit zen moment a day or two ago and it works pretty solid for me still going to do some more testing but would recommend if you want your shots to be stable 18:50
Got my shiny PvP god roll. Love it.
My Zen Moment/Rapid Hit roll felt good in duels, but I ended up missing the confidence kill clip gave me going from engagement to engagement
Was waiting for this review! Also don't overlook perpetual motion, some of my favorite rolls for PvP have perpetual motion which gets my stability up to 99 while also having range past 40 meters, not to mention the handling and reload buffs.
I got a shiny with Zen/Rapid hit with 84 stability and it’s absolutely incredible.
I have a Kinetic tremors, rampage, zen moment, rapid hit roll as a shiny and I love it to death.
worth noting that desperate measures triggers on any melee kill non-powered included, its an easy perk to achieve.
One for all improves Kinetic Tremors and onxe you proc that most likely you will hit many targets, especially in Onslaught, so it's very nice to have. It really pumps up the damage vs Overload Champions.
I have a PvP god rolled shiny, Hammer Forged Rifling, Accurised Rounds or Steady Rounds, Zen Moment and Rapid it with a stability masterwork✨😎
Just got a shiny drop with KT and headseeker in colum 3 and firefly ofa in the 4th with a handling masterwork been loving it so far
I swear trying to get a firefly+kinetic tremors roll is like trying to find a unicorn out in the wild.
Do not sleep on Perpetual Motion. Its great for beefing up your stats further, driving up your stability in the 80-100 with a perk of stability from barrels, mags, or masterwork. Also beefing up handling for the quicker ADS speed, giving it more leeway against targets in PvP. Ever since I crafted ReZero with Perpetual, I've considered finding rolls with it for all my weapons as the beefed up stats helped greatly in PvP and good for PvE as well.
I can’t help but feel people are sleeping on perpetual motion now. It isn’t always the best, but in the case of this weapon it’s amazing. It gives 20 free stats to stability, handling and reload speed. The later 2 being the most important in this case. I literally have a roll with 94 range, 99 stability, 44 handling and 56 reload speed with perpetual active. Don’t need head-seeker when the weapon’s a laser.
I have been testing many of these out including Kill clip with Headseeker, and so far the best PvP performance as been an ultra stability role - Chambered Compensator, Steady Rounds, Zen Moment, Rapid Hit - with stability masterwork. It 2 taps with ease.
Rapid hit is a waste. Your weapons already at 99 stability. Use a damage perk in the final column or if using rapid hit then change steady rounds and barrel to something with more range and handling to help balance out the gun
So as others have stated: OFA will increase Kinetic Tremors damage.
But I just discovered that Desperate Measures can too. Although OFA + KT is obviously the pick for above LL content like GMs I would be on the look out for one to see if it fits your loadout/playstyle. The tremor kills will refresh the DM perk so all you need is a multi kill with your melee or grenade to get that x3.
7:05 You don't need tac mag for extra reload speed. Frenzy grants 100 handling and 100 reload with a 15% damage increase to the weapon. Anything boosting reload while frenzy is active is useless.
Chromatic Fire chest Plus this weapon with tremors and frenzy void sub class and you have the best consistency in my opinion. the weakeness in aoe plus the fact that you proc a dragonfly type on the precision hit from the chest all in all it will work in any type of content pve wise.
My shiny is arrowhead, flared magwell, zen moment, and rapid hit with a range MW and I can definitely say it feels extremely smooth. It is also very difficult to be flinched off of my crit shots with that perk set. If you get one I strongly suggest trying it.
I feel like the talk of enhanceable traits in the final shape is being overstated. I guarentee its gonna be expensive, using items you might not be able to farm (or atleast consistently). I bet we are going to have to be very pick-and-choose about this like when we got those items that turns normal drops into red borders
Kinetic Tremors does more damage with hand cannons like Midnight Coup vs. Kinetic Tremors on a pulse. Still, it's good. I have a Battle Scar with Kinetic Tremors and Shoot to Loot, it's a PvE champion.
My godroll for me is tremors and rampage, damaging a boss while it’s surrounded by redbars, tremors does proc rampage while I’m only damaging the boss.
I would love to see a PvP comparison of Belisarus to Blast Furnace! I feel like nobody is talking about Belisarius anymore cause everyone forgot, but I bet if feels great after the sandbox change
I love my Kinetic tremor and One For All for PVE, throwing down a hunter tether and just beaming the more tanky adds. You constantly proc OFA over and over .
I had a shinny drop last night with arrowhead, accurized rounds, kinetic tremors or perpetual motion, Frenzy or Firefly. I played with it for a bit last night it felt good. I thought the tremors/ firefly combo felt better than the tremors/frenzy combo, but I could see both being useful in different situations.
Rapid hit Zen moment on blast furnace makes it a monster in not flinching and beaming people
Man I got an accurized round perpetual movement and kill clip blast furnace and god it’s so good
Got a shiny one with 99 range and zen moment and kill clip 😍
Can confirm, arrowhead with accurized zen moment rapid hit is insane. range mw too. only wish it was a shiny
The best role that I got was kinetic tremors and one for all. One for all boost the attack power of kinetic tremors and kinetic trimmers triggers one for all if you're firing at a yellow bar surrounded by mobs. The shock waves count as hitting other targets so it will always proc one for all.
I wish they had done ringing nail or some other autorifle to round out the weapon types
Got a limited edition one with polygonal rifling, tactical mag, kinetic tremors with keep away as an option, and desperate measures with frenzy as another option.
I’ve gotten a headseeker/kill clip roll as a shiny with perpetual/frenzy but I haven’t played pvp since onslaught dropped
i managed to get a gold blast furnace with extended barrel/full bore, extended mag/steady rounds, keep away/kinetic tremors, and kill clip/frenzy and i must say i'm happy with it :)
I have a Arrowhead, accurized, zen killclip roll with a range masterwork. It cuts through people like butter and does not move at all.
Best I’ve gotten for pvp so far is polygonal rifling, accurized rounds, keep away, rapid hit and range masterwork. 99 range before keepaway and 74 stability. With full stacks of rapid hit it and keep away active it’ll go to 100 range and 99 stability. It’s been fun so far
I got arrowhead, accurized, range mw with zen mom and rapid hit / kill clip. ZM + RH feels great
Don’t sleep on Kinetic Tremors on Blast Furnace (and Chattering Bone) in PvP. If you end up missing the ideal TTK and have to fire an extra burst, you’ll probably activate KT and get a pretty much guaranteed kill. It reminds me of Malfeasance where hitting the fastest TTK won’t activate the perk, but if you end up needing any extra shots, it’ll clean them up every time.
Can confirm that the zen moment rapid hit combo barely moves at least in MnK. You can focus the rest of the stats into handling and range
I got the 6/5 godroll for myself Reload masterwork, Kinetic Tremors/Headseeker (wanted shoot to loot here) and Firefly/One for All
Zen/rapid hit with counterbalance mod at 90 redirect is confirmed an absolute laser.
So that zen moment and rapid hit is so consistent and stable. It feels almost impossible to lose your 1s
Cross, will you be doing a tier list for the brave weapons?
It is ABSOLUTELY, God tier. Furnace returned with Amazing perk options.
Zen moment and rampage feels amazing
Rapid hit + zen moment is very good. Got a shiny with it and it's a laser.
I have a shiny arrowhead, zen, kill clip/rapid hit, range masterwork. Just no accurized rounds. I have flared magwell or tactical mag. Zen and rapid feels very smooth
I've been using an arrowhead/steady rounds/zen moment/frenzy for pvp. It feels good but I've been on the hunt for the all around roll that will have me me singing.
Don't get me wrong, this room feels amazing but it doesn't give me the 2 round burst kill quite often but it feels amazing.
Can’t rampage reproc on top of its self without waiting for a timer to expire before refreshing it? With Kinetic tremors couldn’t that kind of carry rampage to x3 constantly?
I farmed the crap out of this gun and because of the the large perk pool wasn't able to get the 5 out of 5 perk combo. I tried lesser versions and on m&k it doesn't feel like the og BF. Deterministic recoil has hurt BF. Most players might agree with me becuz I haven't seen it being used in IB or comp. Maybe it's better on controller, would like to hear your thoughts from controller players.
I never actually used the blast furnace and never even got one back when it was newer as I just preferred the bygones
Recently just got a shiny with Zen+Rapid and its been doing wonders in crucible especially as a controller player
I've got a KT + rapid hit roll with extended mag and I slapped a backup mag on it and 64 rounds in the mag is so nice as I'm able to proc KT at least 3 times in a single mag and I'm in love with it and I'm still trying to get KT + Frenzy
Haven't been lucky enough to get Kinetic Tremors/OFA, but KT and Firefly feel good together.
I've gotten several god rolls for PvE and PvP. I am so glad my child has returned to me. I'm back in Black Armory all over again. 😊
I got on for the first time in 2 years and my old forge blast furnace was the first gun I picked up. It's a weird one lol but I was 2 bursting quit often. Has zen moment rampage. Arrowhead and can't remember the other but I play with a nacon controller on pc. Always a console player but coming back after so long I figured I'd try it on pc and see how it went. Feels good.
Can we get a video or a short explaining deterministic recoil and how it affects recoil direction
I got blessed with a 5/5 pvp roll. Arrowhead Brake, Accurized Rounds, Range masterwork, Headseeker, Kill Clip.
I do have the zen moment and rapid hit roll, zen moment and kill clip as well. One of thse days might have to drop by the stream and let you try them out.
The kinetic Tremors and firefly combo is really good. Im really enjoying the loot hunting, the question is, why does it have to take five five-alarm fire to get Bungie to focus on loot in a looter shooter?
I have a kinetic tremors + frenzy roll and man it’s so nice and such a good work horse weapon
I have the firefly and knt roll but im loving my knt + frenzy for the extra damage and reload speed.