What is the BEST Shotgun for DPS? (Damage Testing) | Destiny 2 Revenant

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @andrewquintero6338
    @andrewquintero6338 Месяц назад +403

    damage test is my favorite time of the week

    • @FNG_Zayy
      @FNG_Zayy Месяц назад +2

      Faxxxx

    • @andrewyachovitz6749
      @andrewyachovitz6749 Месяц назад

      Yup lol

    • @universpro7741
      @universpro7741 Месяц назад

      Someone shout test 3 dualities vs grasp of avarice

    • @echoworks3121
      @echoworks3121 15 дней назад

      Despite not playing destiny anymore I still watch cross for damage testing

  • @dredgen0268
    @dredgen0268 Месяц назад +271

    Remember when Ikelos shotty was like, the king back when it first came out? Pepperidge farm remembers.

    • @That_One_Sunshine_Knight
      @That_One_Sunshine_Knight Месяц назад +21

      Taking names on Mars during escalation protocol.
      Good times.

    • @pirate_duck4985
      @pirate_duck4985 Месяц назад +6

      Literally the reason Trench Barrel got nerfed 😄

    • @Tahu33446
      @Tahu33446 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@That_One_Sunshine_KnightWhen you'd get into a good lobby and just have a blast. Fun times. I remember some one on my friend's list setting up the over 6 people in a lobby glitch and getting the shotgun despite aiming for the sniper rifle and thinking "well I got something good"

    • @amateur-madman3047
      @amateur-madman3047 Месяц назад

      …The brand I buy cookies from?😂

    • @NuclearRizzicist
      @NuclearRizzicist Месяц назад +2

      Remember when you could mod the damage type of a legendary weapon and change it between Arc, Solar and Void? Wish they'd bring that back in crafting/enhancing tbh

  • @LazerMonarch
    @LazerMonarch Месяц назад +96

    The guy in the salvations edge trailer taking duality into the raid laughing right now

    • @DushBig
      @DushBig Месяц назад +4

      and I'm laughing at them still because that was before the buffs to it.

    • @raysolo137
      @raysolo137 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@DushBigthey were beta testing those updates

    • @SpaceElvisInc
      @SpaceElvisInc Месяц назад +2

      ​@dushbig5628 you're just afraid that he can use a shotgun on the witness and you can't

    • @DushBig
      @DushBig Месяц назад

      @@SpaceElvisInc Show me a video of someone using a shotgun for good Witness DPS and I'll retract my statement.

    • @SpaceElvisInc
      @SpaceElvisInc Месяц назад

      @dushbig5628 you say this like your statement matters, I ain't wasting my time unless you pay me goofy

  • @thehaloscrolls391
    @thehaloscrolls391 Месяц назад +131

    I fucking despise how 4th horseman’s whole thing is being the shotgun dps king yet it can’t properly do that cuz bungie game design requires every boss to stomp you if you get within 5 feet of it

    • @whereitisat
      @whereitisat Месяц назад +40

      even a hydra can stomp you and it doesn’t have legs

    • @pirate_duck4985
      @pirate_duck4985 Месяц назад +4

      Du-du-du-du *STOMP* aaaaannnnnd away we goooooo!

    • @silly_pigeon
      @silly_pigeon Месяц назад +3

      melee lunge

    • @thessaloniousbadonkious
      @thessaloniousbadonkious Месяц назад +8

      DPS =/= burst DPS, learn the difference.
      And melee cancel boss stomps.

    • @MPblackpride6950
      @MPblackpride6950 Месяц назад +5

      Honestly that has to be the most annoying boss ability I've seen in this game. Even smaller bosses can stomp you away.

  • @felwinterpeak1674
    @felwinterpeak1674 Месяц назад +129

    RIP to Lord of Wolves. Will never be properly fixed because of pvp.

    • @icarusrising2787
      @icarusrising2787 27 дней назад +2

      Still on that hopium that LoW and citans will get different behaviors in pve and pvp

  • @weebonamountain3700
    @weebonamountain3700 Месяц назад +97

    Fourth horseman has my favourite damage rotation setup in the game currently. Running a cascade point BS edge transit on stasis hunter with the "melee reload" fragment and dragons shadow. Situational but so satisfying.

    • @lucienmoolman8017
      @lucienmoolman8017 Месяц назад +9

      @@weebonamountain3700 Have you tried using bitter/sweet so that you match surges with 4th horseman?

    • @cerulean5032
      @cerulean5032 Месяц назад +6

      @@lucienmoolman8017 It'd be worse since it doesn't have cascade point in the third colomn. Now the dungeon gl, that can roll Cascade / BnS, and would be an upgrade over Edge transit.

    • @lucienmoolman8017
      @lucienmoolman8017 Месяц назад +4

      @@cerulean5032 I guess that makes sense. I'm still on the hunt for Cascade/BnS chill inhibitor but I have seen the damage it puts out which is insane amounts of damage

    • @fleefie
      @fleefie Месяц назад +6

      I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em with the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the fwoosh then the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em woth the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then with the fwoosh then with the broop broop broop broop broop broop broop then I hit em with the BOOBOOBOOBOOBOOM then I hit em with the pew pew pew (Shoot to loot sound effect), hit em with that dodge and run it all back baby!

    • @JesusLadron-y3w
      @JesusLadron-y3w Месяц назад

      The conclusso special, ah yess

  • @alvin9033
    @alvin9033 Месяц назад +16

    Been running Duality in PVE with the ritual assault and the Lightfall wave Heavy GL, very good this artifact. I KNEW it would put out.

    • @-thebatman-
      @-thebatman- Месяц назад +3

      I ran duality for years in pve when it came out that and my demo trench perfect paradox were my two fav guns

  • @bedopskepop7936
    @bedopskepop7936 Месяц назад +31

    That fttc role has so much total damage, left with 23 in reserves and still beat out supercluster!

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Месяц назад +5

      That's what I like about it too. Pumps out pretty good damage while being super ammo efficient.

  • @gracehinton__
    @gracehinton__ Месяц назад +30

    My first random drop of Arcane Embrace was FTTC + Precision Instrument and Extended Mag

    • @ofekmizrahi3079
      @ofekmizrahi3079 Месяц назад +2

      Better off with appended

    • @gracehinton__
      @gracehinton__ Месяц назад +1

      @ ah damn you’re right 😭

    • @danielcolt5542
      @danielcolt5542 Месяц назад

      Based on the API ironically it seems like that roll is a lot easier to get but I think they're fixing it this week so I'd definitely try to get it before Tuesday (the most efficent way I found was doing expert haunted lost sectors to get eerie engrams and them just gaining candy by farming the last boss of shattered throne).

    • @Vertix07911
      @Vertix07911 2 дня назад

      @@ofekmizrahi3079 it's virtually the same, 12 mag size on something like that will rarely run out at a time where reload speed is a problem

  • @Shr12261
    @Shr12261 Месяц назад +4

    The satisfaction of watching those high numbers and multiple different guns fire it just hits different when it comes to dmg testing

  • @gen8901
    @gen8901 Месяц назад +22

    Duality walked in the wrong room and made itself worthwhile enough in the end…

  • @x.I.N.K.x
    @x.I.N.K.x Месяц назад +3

    I didn’t think the duality tweak woulda give it that bump but damn, it’s matching fourth horseman, with even more ammo to spare. Very nice.

  • @Bastion0418
    @Bastion0418 Месяц назад +3

    I’m glad Until its Return got a showcase. One of the last weapons I crafted before season of the deep ended and I love it still

  • @lucienmoolman8017
    @lucienmoolman8017 Месяц назад +35

    Obviously the best shotgun for dps and damage is Chaprone, according to my friend who used it versus Echtar

    • @naylor7495
      @naylor7495 Месяц назад +16

      chaperone lowkey good asf with the recent buff

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Месяц назад +3

      jez would be proud

    • @makaveli3189
      @makaveli3189 2 дня назад

      Nah arcane embrace and fourth horseman are both better

  • @lucienmoolman8017
    @lucienmoolman8017 Месяц назад +74

    1:13 resilience jumpscare. Can we really call aztecross a warlock main if his stats looks this fucked up?

    • @SilasEngelbrecht-h4z
      @SilasEngelbrecht-h4z Месяц назад

      What stats should warlocks focus for?

    • @jdiabl035
      @jdiabl035 Месяц назад +7

      It looks like he’s actually got good stats considering he’s a warlock with 90 recov and discipline

    • @Gatirrecuba
      @Gatirrecuba Месяц назад +1

      @@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z PVE discipline/strength(depending on build but normally discipline) with resillience, PVP recovery with discipline/strength(depending on what I said before) and intellect, so yes I would recommend a triple 100 build for pvp and only a double 100 for pve.

    • @lucienmoolman8017
      @lucienmoolman8017 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z all classes should get at least tier-9 resil but tier-10 is recommended. Warlocks should focus on getting hight recovery and preferably also high discipline

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Месяц назад +2

      @@SilasEngelbrecht-h4z resilience and discipline, same as the others, recovery is nice and mobility is nice on hunter but at the end of the day builds can make up for your class ability or devour can make up for healing rift. idk any hunter who's struggling for dodges, considering combination blow, also strategist exists now

  • @azure98
    @azure98 Месяц назад +2

    The other trick with Acrius is like Rocket Launchers where if you press reload as soon as the shot goes off you can start reloading sooner than if you let it auto reload.

  • @maximilianmilesanhour6824
    @maximilianmilesanhour6824 Месяц назад +2

    With anti barrier shotgun, fourth horseman is utterly incredible. Absolutely melts barrier champs.

  • @Olgod2004
    @Olgod2004 Месяц назад +425

    Warlock main lol

    • @thiagochaves3325
      @thiagochaves3325 Месяц назад +15

      Stg he just play titan when it's needed to use on a build for BB

    • @TheBitingBat
      @TheBitingBat Месяц назад +59

      Don't blame the man he's just playing the best class

    • @A_Helix_A
      @A_Helix_A Месяц назад +30

      @@TheBitingBatUnfortunately, you’re right
      - A disgruntled Titan player

    • @silvergrimoire
      @silvergrimoire Месяц назад +1

      @@A_Helix_Ahe is right currently as a hunter my dps options are poop 😐😐😐😐

    • @duckmandrake6781
      @duckmandrake6781 Месяц назад +5

      @@silvergrimoire What are u on about lol? celestial/still hunt and spirit of synthos/navigator combo on prism hunter are literally THE HIGHEST dps rotations in the game. Spirit of foetracer/stareaters? Rev hunter with impetus/dragonshadow? RDM with rockets/parasite? Lucky Pants with wardens law was untouched. We have the highest, most varied and viable dps rotations among all three classes. Warlock is only now comparable to hunter because of star eaters and titan, well....punches? Assuming his super changes stay he might have something other than wormgods and synthos rotations.

  • @natcoo8153
    @natcoo8153 Месяц назад +5

    I forgot this thing existed... Until he gets melted by a Captain using the same weapon and remembers

  • @raijinmeister
    @raijinmeister Месяц назад +3

    Supercluster and the Wastelander M5 are my favorites for the kinetic slot.

  • @dragonzlucas
    @dragonzlucas Месяц назад +1

    The Fourth Horseman is so good. For any close to mid range boss damage it is really good to include in rotations. The range issues you can negate with either a rally barricade or someone running luna's and it is S tier for any boss where you are using div. It is the best major/champs melter in the game and I have been struggling to remove it from my builds because I enjoy it so much.

  • @arthas_stormr8ge877
    @arthas_stormr8ge877 Месяц назад +9

    He didn’t get a kill with merciless first, it’s a 50% dmg increase on the rest of the mag.

    • @XM8A1
      @XM8A1 Месяц назад

      Can fusions even get precision hits? Cuz I didn't notice any yellow numbers on Merciless tests

    • @giga-egg
      @giga-egg Месяц назад +1

      @@XM8A1 no fusions can't get precision hits but this guy is talking about merciless's other perk impetus which increases dmg by 50% on a kill for a bit

    • @XM8A1
      @XM8A1 Месяц назад

      @@giga-egg ik what he's talking bout. I was just askin bout precision hits for knowledge

    • @wintereclipse3263
      @wintereclipse3263 27 дней назад +1

      @@XM8A1 Don't use yellow numbers as a sign of crits. There was (And arguably still is) a misconception of many weapons being able to hit crits because of yellow numbers. Yellow=debuff/crit

  • @OutlawLotus
    @OutlawLotus Месяц назад +2

    Good ol horsey still got it! Glad to see Duality up there, though. It feels SO much better, now.

  • @TheRcampos112
    @TheRcampos112 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for testing until it’s return, hands down my favorite legendary shotgun for pve

  • @OffMeta-Gaming
    @OffMeta-Gaming Месяц назад +1

    Who ever said Lord of wolves you're a real one for that

  • @plutotrell1438
    @plutotrell1438 Месяц назад +1

    Theres a fragment that lets you double freeze with conditional if you successfully freeze them with the first shot so basically you get 2 stasis shots and one ignition with without reloading

  • @MiaCulpa24
    @MiaCulpa24 27 дней назад +1

    I think Lords of Wolves should get the Choir of One treatment, and get a larger reserves mag
    Its build much more for frequent use

  • @ttvunashamedalchemist7002
    @ttvunashamedalchemist7002 Месяц назад +1

    Got a 4th T, Precision roll on my 2nd or 3rd drop of arcane. Went to D2 foundry to cook up what the “perfect” roll would be, and it was almost exactly what I got. Hammer forged, tac mag, 4th T, prec. If I wanna be picky I got a handling MW and I would rather range (not that it needs it but ya know, more range go brr) and I absolutely love it. Definitely would be looking out for one with surrounded in place of precision tho 🤔

  • @charlied2088
    @charlied2088 Месяц назад +1

    Cross, would you do an SMG Damage testing vid? With Peacekeepers maybe? :D I love your damage testing videos!

  • @ScorpionHanshi
    @ScorpionHanshi Месяц назад +2

    Statis hunter w/ bakris and 4th horseman is just crazy

  • @gunstru
    @gunstru Месяц назад +6

    I think another thing to consider is the ammo economy on arcane vs the others and even that of merci

  • @DaddyMo444
    @DaddyMo444 20 дней назад

    I was absolutely melting the headless ones with that new arc shotgun with trench barrel. I just fairly recently started loving shotguns. Luckily just in time for the anti barrier mod this episode.

  • @Nero87170
    @Nero87170 Месяц назад

    People fail to realize the timer in between wash shot with conditional. You can beat that by putting a melee in between both shots. So you’d go stasis punch solar reload rinse repeat. It makes the dps significantly better.

  • @jordancarlson6556
    @jordancarlson6556 Месяц назад

    I’ve been using the strand shotty until its return w trench barrel and I’m loving it
    Unfortunately not very many good perks in the right column but well rounded has done me good getting a huge stat boost to make it really fast.

  • @ttvp13xl_clapz96
    @ttvp13xl_clapz96 Месяц назад +2

    That’s why I love IKELOS_SG for day 1s

  • @perfectharmony9943
    @perfectharmony9943 Месяц назад +10

    Who else here after ehroar said heritage was better than arcanes.... We love giving bad info
    Exotics are different btb

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Месяц назад +1

      even if he did the test wrong fact remains you have to be twice as precise and also want to use a shotgun in the first place

    • @killclip6449
      @killclip6449 Месяц назад +1

      Except heritage is better. The burst shotgun does lower dps, has lower total damage, and takes twice as long to reload

    • @cerulean5032
      @cerulean5032 Месяц назад +3

      @@killclip6449 The total damage is about the same, but dps of Arcane is better than slugs. Slugs only have higher dps when used for swapping.

    • @killclip6449
      @killclip6449 Месяц назад

      @ that’s just flat out false. Slugs do more dps, go watch testing videos before spewing made up info

    • @cerulean5032
      @cerulean5032 Месяц назад +4

      @@killclip6449 I already looked at Aegis' damage testing. The highest ranking nonswap slug without surrounded he has listed is Nessa's, and it's dps is well below what Arcane embrace has.
      Hell, look at how supercluster with surrounded compares to arcane embrace with surrounded, nearly identical total damage, but arcane embrace has slightly better dps.

  • @GodofRandom
    @GodofRandom 26 дней назад

    I was using 4HM and sealed ahamkara during Deep on Ecthar. Punch, dodge, punch let's you reload after each mag and get all your rounds off pretty quick.

  • @libritium
    @libritium Месяц назад

    Regarding conditional, idk how many people are doing it this way, but I suspect that the long delay between the shots is for you to squeeze in a melee hit on the frozen target which does bonus frozen damage and then you follow up with the second igniting shot.
    I just don't see many people using it like that so decided to throw it in here.
    The damage this way is very high

  • @Crimson_Devoss
    @Crimson_Devoss 25 дней назад

    Still remember running Heritage, FILO, Anarchy during the early days of DSC

  • @freakinschweeet
    @freakinschweeet Месяц назад +1

    Song of Flame, Apoth + Star Eater, Legend of Acrius, arc loaders, arc surges..... GG.

    • @thebhoy8561
      @thebhoy8561 Месяц назад

      And the longest damage phase in existence… gg

    • @kevinbrandon8794
      @kevinbrandon8794 29 дней назад

      ​@@thebhoy8561 care taker

  • @MorningThief_
    @MorningThief_ Месяц назад +2

    poor Felwinter -- even with all the shotty buffs this season, you still won't see a single ray of light deep in the recesses of everybody's vault...

    • @thebhoy8561
      @thebhoy8561 Месяц назад

      Dont let its tizzle hear you say that

  • @Danny-zg5gn
    @Danny-zg5gn Месяц назад +18

    paradox is insane how didnt it get tested

    • @thatguyaric2534
      @thatguyaric2534 Месяц назад +8

      Perfect Paradox is legit the best shotgun in the game.

    • @cerulean5032
      @cerulean5032 Месяц назад +8

      Because he tested until it's return, which is a shotgun of the exact same frame and slot, but better for dps.

    • @charleslyra5458
      @charleslyra5458 Месяц назад

      ​​@@cerulean5032tks, I was asking myself the same thing.
      But I was thinking now...
      Perfect paradox is Kinect and has better perks

    • @Based_Shogun
      @Based_Shogun Месяц назад

      What rolls?

    • @cerulean5032
      @cerulean5032 Месяц назад

      @@charleslyra5458 Kinetic doesn't matter for boss dps, and for boss dps it has worse perks. Aztecross was not testing shotguns for nuking majors, he was testing shotguns for boss dps. And for boss dps, there is little reason to use perfect paradox over until it's return.

  • @88baldur1
    @88baldur1 29 дней назад

    Got my 4th x's /precision friday, yay!

  • @victorflores6793
    @victorflores6793 Месяц назад

    I'm so happy I managed to get a fourth times the charm and precision instrument

  • @josiahpeters6103
    @josiahpeters6103 Месяц назад

    Wanted to see a rapid fire frame shotgun in there for another round of damage test.

  • @MK-un1lj
    @MK-un1lj Месяц назад

    ❤ these damage test videos!

  • @Destroyerofworldsss
    @Destroyerofworldsss Месяц назад +4

    why not use no backup plans titan isnt it like 35% buff to shotguns?

    • @largepurplemonkey
      @largepurplemonkey Месяц назад +1

      This is my question too - I swear when he does Handcannon testing he uses Lucky Pants, so NBP would be the equivalent here wouldn't it?

    • @dusk2308
      @dusk2308 Месяц назад

      yea and all you really need is a shotgun with distablizing rounds and repulse blast you don't even need to be on a void class.

    • @flopre9213
      @flopre9213 Месяц назад +1

      ppl use rain of fire for shotgun dps to skip the reload, no backups plans damage is nice but not as good

  • @tempii2530
    @tempii2530 Месяц назад

    Duality has been good. I’ve seen so many comments saying stuff like “does he know about duality?”. I’ve used it in my no backup plans build and IT CHUNKS. Though the buff there on the uptime definitely made it more viable for harder content (it was only ever viable for legend onslaught and lost sectors beforehand)

  • @legacynorthstar_8874
    @legacynorthstar_8874 Месяц назад

    Would loved to see legato because it can roll with deconstruct and vorpal, focused fire, frenzy, and cascade point.

  • @garymclean1679
    @garymclean1679 22 дня назад

    Love these tests...thanks a wallop crozz!

  • @SilencedSounds123
    @SilencedSounds123 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve been using horsemen and guillotine on crota since the raid came out. People on lfg called me crazy

  • @DarthLevicor
    @DarthLevicor Месяц назад

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!

  • @ryankerrivan414
    @ryankerrivan414 Месяц назад +3

    i need a duality build now

  • @rubencontreras5711
    @rubencontreras5711 Месяц назад

    Adept Comedian shotgun has been working great

  • @jvsilky
    @jvsilky Месяц назад

    Supercluster also gets cascade point. I wonder if increase in rpm could even take it higher

  • @GandalfDaBrown
    @GandalfDaBrown 22 дня назад

    No Reprieve (stasis slug from season of plunder) rolls triple tap + surrounded. I’ve been using in haunted sectors but it would cook here

  • @ryanmokbel5768
    @ryanmokbel5768 Месяц назад +1

    0:55 always the "wooow"

    • @ians_mind
      @ians_mind 26 дней назад

      I love that he pays owen wilson to guest star

  • @uvarniv3353
    @uvarniv3353 Месяц назад

    You should test cascade point supercluster with cascade point legato. Curious to see how well permanent casc point uptime does on 2 slug shotties

  • @raymondsantiago757
    @raymondsantiago757 Месяц назад

    But we can use these shotguns on Barriers right now, so this showcase here is really good.

  • @SorasLight17
    @SorasLight17 Месяц назад

    I was really only there as a warm body for a short time but I appreciate being able to participate. 😅

  • @mytho-seb
    @mytho-seb Месяц назад

    dang arcane embrace is pretty good wow, just gotta hit those headshots, and with fourth times the charm you'll have a ton of ammo

  • @DJScope88
    @DJScope88 29 дней назад

    Enhanced Prec Instr on Embrace vs Regular Prec Instr on Sojourner's Tale also matters.

  • @ImyouNine
    @ImyouNine 13 дней назад

    Might wanna consider any roll of the Perfect Paradox with void hunter melee

  • @K1m9857
    @K1m9857 Месяц назад +1

    Surprised rain of fire and lunafaction boots werent consistent in all the test

  • @alabamaman1372
    @alabamaman1372 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the numbers. 🤠

  • @ecruznwi4784
    @ecruznwi4784 Месяц назад

    Super cluster
    - recon
    - cascade point
    A sudden death
    - envious
    - cascade point
    I want to see this dps in oryx because cascade point proc on him, maybe a tractor for heavy

  • @spiritshadow5579
    @spiritshadow5579 Месяц назад

    I haven't done any raids since they made the "taunt" effect for Titans barricades/unbreakable. So I'm not sure if they can taunt raid bosses but, would it potentially help in these testing so you have less flinch/screenshake to worry about? Like have a Titan on a ledge above you so you can still see crit spot, or have them below you for the same reason?

  • @calebjacobs754
    @calebjacobs754 Месяц назад

    You guys need to do this again on Titan with the exotic No backup Plans that increase shotgun damage with overshields

  • @Sodamachine62
    @Sodamachine62 Месяц назад

    Surrounded is hella good. Yeah its inconsistent but so is every other perk. Goodluck hitting all crits with precision instrument

  • @titusmiller6020
    @titusmiller6020 Месяц назад

    Cross if you ever do another vespers host dps vid… I just threw on winterbite as a little joke to see what it could do on raneiks. I was pretty shocked at the DAMAGE… I wonder if a full team on 3 with winterbites possibly one phase🤔

  • @gryphon123456
    @gryphon123456 Месяц назад +1

    That’s total damage but what about a champion scenario where you want dps and ease of use. I use shotguns as mostly a champion killer. Heritage has been my go to. Is there now a better one in each slot?

    • @Muse36
      @Muse36 Месяц назад +1

      arcane embrace is prob the best energy option

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Месяц назад

      Against anything not a boss Kinetic still get that 15% extra damage so I'd say Heritage is still better there. It's mostly in cases where you maybe dump all your heavy and need damage for last stand is where a weapon like this shotty with FTTC + PI could find it's home as FTTC allows for really good ammo economy.
      Also this frame type is probably the best to pair with a Cascade weapon like Cascade + BnS on Chill Inhibitor as it should proc it with the 1 shot 2 burst.

  • @cameronsalmon1314
    @cameronsalmon1314 Месяц назад

    Should’ve used Acrius with Song of Flame. It’s a match made in heaven.

  • @jj_xviiiii
    @jj_xviiiii Месяц назад

    What about old Sojourners tale with surrounded?? I have a good roll if needed lol it's the old one so no enhance but it's been my go to shorty this season

  • @TorinBlackheart
    @TorinBlackheart Месяц назад

    did you try it with no backup plans? doesnt it give it a 35% buff to the damage of shotguns? would that be a potential dps strat for something like 2nd encounter salvations edge?

  • @businesscasualsauron
    @businesscasualsauron Месяц назад

    I wonder how much the top contenders would do on a Titan using No Backup Plans standing behind a Bastion Rally Barricade now that overshields have been buffed.

  • @FormerPotential
    @FormerPotential Месяц назад

    I thought Arcane could also get Cascade Point. That would be insane burst damage. In a perfect world i would love to see Arcane with Cascade and Trench barrel on a No Backup Plans titan.

  • @deadlyalliance8281
    @deadlyalliance8281 Месяц назад

    Used until it's return to melt the barriers in this week's nightfall. Flatlines them. Mind you, I'm playing on controller and can barely contain the recoil lol

  • @jaredmiller7258
    @jaredmiller7258 Месяц назад +13

    No testing with No Backup Plans?

    • @HotSauceMan46
      @HotSauceMan46 Месяц назад +2

      I was wondering this too since it drastically increases these numbers

    • @sohanfernando2853
      @sohanfernando2853 Месяц назад +5

      It applies the same multiplier to every shotgun tho. It wouldn’t change the rankings

    • @77SBCR
      @77SBCR Месяц назад +4

      @@HotSauceMan46 Doesnt matter then, the order is still the same but higher numbers

    • @jozu_u
      @jozu_u Месяц назад +1

      cuz warlock main

    • @BlaringKnight3
      @BlaringKnight3 Месяц назад +2

      NBP is an empowering buff, same as well. It's 35% which overrides well's 25%. Increase Cross's numbers by 8% and you'll have your numbers.

  • @WuceBrayne-lw6re
    @WuceBrayne-lw6re Месяц назад

    I wonder if No Backup Plans would work well with boosting shotgun damage

  • @KBoge
    @KBoge Месяц назад

    Hey Cross next time can you test merciless with its kill clip buff if possible?

  • @derisgaming9773
    @derisgaming9773 17 дней назад

    as an Imperial Decree enjoyer, I'm disappointed it didn't even appear on the list.

  • @bentheninjaboo
    @bentheninjaboo Месяц назад

    It would have made more sense to run some of these with no backup plans on a titan because there's a massive difference in damage granted I'm well aware this is a baseline across the board 4 simplicity reasons

  • @homusubii720
    @homusubii720 Месяц назад +2

    Where is Nessa's Obilation?

  • @lokithejoker1997
    @lokithejoker1997 Месяц назад

    It's my birthday tomorrow and I want to run my first dungeon know first few parts of prophecy but haven't done any other dungeons

  • @iamboringvideos6832
    @iamboringvideos6832 Месяц назад

    I do hope ignition gets fixed in act 2, just so conditional finality can go back to its rightful place.

  • @forgottenprincechara5356
    @forgottenprincechara5356 28 дней назад

    completely forgot to dps test perfect paradox. pairing it with song of flame just for the quick melee charges? blows all these other weapons out of the water. the BEST dps for warlocks when up close.

  • @LightsOut-KP
    @LightsOut-KP Месяц назад +1

    OH BABY HERE WE GO

  • @bkrazey9999
    @bkrazey9999 Месяц назад +1

    Does trench barrel stack with 3x combination blow?

    • @minty3528
      @minty3528 Месяц назад

      No, why would it? A single punch procs it and it's the same buff everytime, no melee buffs make it do more damage.

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Месяц назад

      combination blow affects your melee not your shotgun

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell Месяц назад

      did you mean one two punch?

    • @bkrazey9999
      @bkrazey9999 Месяц назад

      @minty3528 what I meant was, would using a 3x combo blow work better than just a random warlock melee

    • @bkrazey9999
      @bkrazey9999 Месяц назад

      @@dankerbell no. I didn't mean to say stack

  • @renegademikey2458
    @renegademikey2458 Месяц назад

    No Reprieve with triple tap + focused fury or surrounded: I guess people have forgotten about me

  • @nappy6806
    @nappy6806 Месяц назад

    No back up plans titan watching this video intensely

  • @RebelOfTheNorm242
    @RebelOfTheNorm242 Месяц назад

    You should use arcane with the Titan shotgun gaunts on void Titan.
    Having an over shield gives you a flat 25% damage bump.
    You’d get over a mil damage with half the mag.
    GG

    • @crawdad
      @crawdad Месяц назад +1

      It’s even higher, it’s 35%, just throw down a bastion rally barricade, you can dance around it and still get the OS, or sit behind it and lay into things. I can’t wait.

    • @killclip6449
      @killclip6449 Месяц назад

      The buff doesn’t stack with well

    • @RebelOfTheNorm242
      @RebelOfTheNorm242 Месяц назад

      @ true, but it’sa higher dps buff than well, while well can help with healing for dps checks

  • @derikc24
    @derikc24 Месяц назад

    What's a good damage # to be hitting on Templar?

    • @swift2992
      @swift2992 Месяц назад

      u should be one phasing if that helps

  • @drfakyu6431
    @drfakyu6431 Месяц назад

    Fortissimo with fourth time's the charm + surrounded?

  • @TheDaveCave_
    @TheDaveCave_ 21 день назад

    We need a rewind rounds/kinetic tremors heavy burst shotgun

  • @randomviewer2730
    @randomviewer2730 Месяц назад

    Why not proc roadborne on Chappy before starting DPS?

  • @gabe8796
    @gabe8796 Месяц назад

    4th horseman and mask of bakris go crazy

  • @DarkRoxas18
    @DarkRoxas18 Месяц назад

    Señor Cross may you do damage testing with lucky pants again for pve? Just curious if it’s still optimal or not

    • @Masonc1001
      @Masonc1001 Месяц назад +1

      If your using a heavy burst hand cannon it’s damage has barely changed due to the buff to heavy bursts

    • @DarkRoxas18
      @DarkRoxas18 Месяц назад +1

      @ bet thanks Brodie 👍🏻

  • @cameronsalmon1314
    @cameronsalmon1314 Месяц назад

    What happened to the Lord of Wolves rework it was supposedly going to receive like 2 years ago?

  • @Meesax_itchi
    @Meesax_itchi Месяц назад

    I'm not seeing many guardians wearing the Aztecross mask in this year's festival of the lost

  • @hectornieves537
    @hectornieves537 Месяц назад

    So acrius and forth horseman as usual. Not surprised.