12v71 detroit diesel mc6 bus test drive
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2019
- We get to go for a test drive with this 12v71 buzzin dozen in this MC6 bus. He’s got a lot of work ahead of him, but thanks for the test drive. 18:23 we get on the road and turn up the volume.
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That 12v71 alone is worth what he gave for the whole bus.
In 1973-74 I drove these Greyhound coaches from San Luis Obispo to San Francisco. The schedule originated in LA. They had the V-12 in them and would climb Cuesta grade in 3rd gear at 45MPH. The best speed you could get out of a Scenic was 32MPH in 2nd gear. I loved driving these MC-6's:):):) Another thing I found about driving these, is you don't have any sensation of speed. you'll be driving 65 MPH, it feels like you are barely moving. I had a local run, lots of freight, easy on the back. You didn't have to bend over much, like doing freight in a Scenicruiser.
"My first bus" gets the widest bus with the biggest engine, he's not messing around this guy. Nice. Swung it out of that park no worries either.
And, as others have noted, he wheels it like a boss. Once he gets the throttle fixed, he'll be shifting it like he's been doing it for 30 years. I'll bet he gets it made into a nice house, too. It's in great shape on the outside, so he can concentrate on the interior. Most of those old Sixes look like they've been through a couple of wars.
enwri ... I wanna see him park it
@@pablocruise678 Yep, swinging it back in backwards is another thing altogether..I'd probably have to find somewhere else to put it every time I moved it.
@@zackreuter6344 Zack we Canadians look after our equipment,🇨🇦😎
That Detroit is one sweet sounding motor.
Its definitely intoxicating
Brings back great memories of riding these when I was a child. I am a bus driver by profession because of my experience riding and loving these back then. I began my career in '88, but unfortunately I just missed the classic bus era. I'm pissed that I didn't get to drive any of my favorites. I have designs on a 4104, but the wife says if I buy it I'll be living in it..............although that doesn't sound bad to me! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Arthur Langford.... WHAT?!!??... your wife doesn't love the soul-stirring, Sweet Music of a well tuned, good running. high winding (2,100 - 2,350 is "about right") 6-71 Jimmy?!!!?.... what's "wrong" with her, anyway!??!..... Some People's Children!!!! lol : ) I would Gladly "live in it".... and if I live in it, then I can drive off in it at any time as well...... See Yahh!!!.... A'Dios!!.... Sayonara!!!.... auf Wiedersehen!!.... and last, but not least - - - Gooood - Riddance!!! : )
@@Romans--bo7br 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍 My mother is more adventurous. She said she'd hit the road with me and would love to learn to drive it. By the way, my mother is 72 and refuses to own a car with an automatic transmission! Even with an unassisted clutch and manual steering, I think Mom's could handle it! She's pretty strong and really tough!
@@arthurlangford5861 MGTOW! Tell the wife to deal with it or you are cutting up her bank cards and she can make her own money!!! Remember a Mother will always be a man's best friend!!! She will always be on your side unlike a wife..who has the nerve to try to tell the husband what to buy or threaten him but when in all actuality, the husband made all the money yet the old nag thinks she controls it!! Buy the bus and tell her to move out!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🚌💨💨💨💨
@@arthurlangford5861.... Sorry for answering just now, I missed your reply.... a Year ago!!... Where, has the time gone?!!? Anyway.. your "mom" sounds like "my kind of gal".... and I'm 71, so we're pretty close in age. lol
12V71 problems = "The speed limit was 80, so when it hit 80, I kinda backed it down"
How is the conversion coming? I have a Scenicruiser, I tried to find a MCI 6 first.
80 is enough speed to go anywhere
That isn't a Detroit 12V71 it's 6 cylinder 2 stroke engine making at most 225 bhp. 12V71 no way.
@@robertclark9705 Sorry, but it really IS a 12V71. Look again. Trust me, I'm a mechanic ;-)
@@robertclark9705 look at the two superchargers on the intake it's a 12
Wow! Started with Greyhound Canada in June of 1969. President of greyhound Canada was Bob Borden. He was so proud of the MC6. Us guys on the “spare board” did not get to drive them as they were usually on “regular” routes Calgary to Vancouver. I got lucky one day and was asked to drive one from Calgary to Vancouver that had brake problems! Taking it there for mechanical and break work for sure. Drove west through the Rockies, Rogers pass and the dangerous Fraser Canyon! Remember at that time very new exciting coaches. Needless to say. The trip through the Rockies with poor brakes was exciting. But empty with no passengers no problem. Stopped just west of Kamloops at a fruit stand and bought a big basket of fresh bing cherries to munch on as I drove the Fraser canyon. A trip I will never forget!! Would love to drive one again! Any in Western Canada?
Highway through Hell. Pre-Coq days.
Drivers hounded the "hound" to put jakes on BC & AB buses,... Never happened! Most of the MC6's were converted to freighters in last years of service.
Solid bus and rare! That 12V71 sounds great. Love the cold loping idle.
My heart was a flutter during the driving portion, what an amazing experience especially with headphones!! Sounds like the accelerator return spring was very weak as the rpm's remained high between shifts. Thanks to the internet and RUclips, the MC-6 has gone from urban legend to a firebreathing beast of a bus!!
The v12 sound is intoxicating 😎👍
A 102" ancient bus...imagine the looks from swift drivers screaming by uphill at 80
Imagine the looks from the Swift drivers when he slides the bus in and out of parking spots without hitting anything.
More exciting at idle than any modern engine at full power
This is why I follow this channel, because stuff like this. This bus is amazing, sounds great !!
Yeah I think we did. The engine was cold.
Yep, the bus version of a 1969 Big block Chevelle ,A genuine Muscle bus.
Mercmad..... and these are "castrated" in these applications.... the sky was the limit (within reason of course) in On-Highway truck and marine applications. The 2 cycle Detroits (especially the Series 53 and 71 engines -this V12 is a Series71-or-71ci per cylinder) are very easy to make lots of power with, like "mouse motor" Chevy's are.
The Series71 Detroits (like this engine) only have a 4.25" bore.. the same as a 400ci sm. block Chevy.... and a Total stroke length of only 5"...Total - keep in mind that these are 2 cycle, so from the total stroke of 5" you have to deduct 1" for intake port uncovering approaching BDC, plus (I forget the actual, exact amount at the moment) "approximately" another 18-20 degrees of crankshaft rotation for exhaust valve opening before the ports are "uncovered" by the piston, so these engines are actually producing the hp and torque they do, with Less than 4" of piston travel, and "Only" (small compared to the 4 cycle Cummins, Cat. & even the Mack, truck engines) 4.25" bore.
Mercmad I’m a Mopar guy, and since it is a Challenger, .....
1st time I've heard the term MUSCLE BUS! Lol
That is an AIRCRAFT CARRIER!! What a HOOT. Thanks so much for this!!!!
Now that is a screaming oiler for ya. Drove a 12v71 once many moons ago in a Brockway dump. Had a 13 speed road ranger coupled to it. You coulden't shift the o'l gal fast enough.
Awesome Vid. Thanks.
I love the MC-6. Rode a couple when they were in US 'Hound service. They hoped for them to be the replacement for the Scenicruiser, but they couldn't get operating permits for the 102" width everywhere. Ended up running them on oddball routes where they were permitted. When they got overhauled, they got 8V71 and Alison automatics. They also (stupidly, IMO) lowered the suspension a few inches to clear the roof at the LA terminal. They should have put in a switch to allow lowering in and out and restore normal ride height underway. The lowering was not good for the ride and handling.
The Canadians didn't have those issues. Theirs stayed 12V71 and manual trans.
Holy crap--that bus is the next level. Wow.
Quite a beast! I drove an MC6 V12 for several years in the early 80s for a charter company in the LA area. Much of it was interstate and across country. Top RPM for 3rd gear was around 62 mph. 65 mph seemed like 50 mph in other coaches. And, you sat higher than any other coach on the road. A bygone era!
Good base for a conversion. That 12v71 really winds out good. Bet it pulls pretty hard compared to some of the others. Part of me would love to have the 12v71 but part of me would almost rather have a 6 or 8 for the increased mileage. But there is a tipping point in weight where the 12v would be more efficient. although I wonder where that would be. almost everything I see for sale is 8v71 either normal or turbo. Thanks to the owner for letting us ride along on that rare beast.
It could haul a trailer full of power toys or a large boat along.
It only gets 2-3 mpg less than most 6 or 8v71’s.
@@photonole61 That's like a 30% difference, though. :p
Shane Singleton true, but I can tackle the mountains without any loss in speed or power. I’ve read MANY posts from people whose buses may cruise 65 on flat ground, but drop to 20 when they hit any grades.
1969, it's as old as me!
Boy that thing sounds good.
What a beautiful bus and he only paid $2100 for it, the 12v71 alone is worth that! Thanks for sharing!
When that rig is completed, it will outlast any production motorhome out there. As far as fuel economy goes, it couldn't be worse than most other Class A motorhomes of comparable size and chances are, it might even be somewhat better than especially, the gasoline powered ones. If you can upgrade the steering system, it would really be a dream to drive, although the steering system these buses came with from the factory was not all that bad. I bet she'll be a beauty when she's finished!
@@maverickdallas1004 I agree 100%, I definitely would love a bus like this myself.
Dang I bet that bus can bust through the mountains with no issue with that 12 cylinder engine......Wow
@SSS Dias no ECU on that ol girl, all mechanical
@SSS Dias all low end torque not a whole lotta giddy up.
A rolling piece of history in the bus world. That 12v71 runs good.
God bless this guy. Love that 12 cylinder Detroit. I don't have the enthusiasm nor the skill set to make one of these buses whole again. But if I was into a project like this. My wife would definitely have to be on board. Which I'm questioning that as I typed this........
Now a V12 might make me want a detroit.... That would feel awesome to drive no doubt.
A 13 speed in that would be fantastic. Bumping it up even to a 7 speed OD transmission would be good.
Hard to do with limited space
A 5 spd Mack with a Brownie is about the smallest option for that bus.
@@deborahchesser7375,
A brownie would be cool,
but a bit of modification might even make room for a girl scout. 😉
Don't know about the 13-speed or if it's longer but knew a guy in the 90's that put a 9-speed truck transmission in an MC8 with the 8V71 and had no issues. He swapped the injectors to the truck spec "318" injectors and that bus would smoke about anything on the road. 😀
Boy I loved riding on the Greyhound MC-6s in BC as a pup. There was one for sale in Sicamous and when i tried to buy it, my wife went nuts on me. Therefore, I left it alone.
Love the sound of a 12v71..Good luck with what ever you choose to do with it.Best wishes from the UK
Beautiful vehicle! The 12V behind it❤️😊 Wow!
I’m listening to this on two Apple HomePods and the rumble and roar of the 12V71 from behind me makes me feel like I’m actually on the bus! I’ve got a grin plastered on my face right now like a kid at Christmas! This is going to be a true Dreamliner when he’s finished! Thanks for the upload!
dude had no worries about brakes - or anything actually.
I was planting my brake foot when he comes up on traffic and trying to drag my pc screen to look right and left when he was cornering.
very cool driver - and videographer! thanks for the fun ride 👍 👍
Not only rare because it's an MC6, but with a 12v71, no less, definitely hen's teeth here!! He handles that MC6, as if he was born to drive it!, no 'coffee' ground, jogged that thing around the park, and in traffic as good as any seasoned pro could. I'm impressed! Locating windshields for an MC6??, yikes!!
Only shifting is lacking, but with a sticking throttle linkage that keeps the revs high, it's hard to get a clean and quick upshift.
Wait 'til you get hold of one, that you have to stop, and shut the engine down to get it into gear!! I've always loved those MC6's, their "eyebrow" exudes class! Only drove one 'around the block'; there used to be an outfit in Winter Haven, FL, which started out refurbishing MC7's and MC8's, as they were released by Greyhound (I remember the "headlight - starter sequence" as being hell on even fresh 8D battery pairs). They visited the charter operation which my friends family owned, and arrived in a nicely refurbed MC6. (around 1983??) Did you know about the "keep a Skinner valve bolt, and hose clamps in the first aid kit" trick??
Man, that sticky go-pedal needs to be addressed, that would make shifting 100% better!! Love that 12V sound!!
For sure. That was not good. If someone took the time to make a pedal return foot wrap but they didn’t take the time to fix the issue??? That would be on my list behind air leaks
@@BusGreaseMonkey EXACTLY my thoughts!! Oh man, the air leaks! Yeah, the air leaks competed with the sound of the 12V, -definitely in need of some attention. As always, I really appreciate what you do and your videos, you will ALWAYS get a thumbs up from this guy! -I would give two or three if I could!
Wow 12 cylinder, that’s a sweet ride.
I love that bus. The V12 is over the top. Very cool 😎
First rule of driving a coach is when ready to go do a last walk around looking for anything left open, unlocked or not ready for the road. By doing this you don't see supplies falling out on the road creating headaches for you.
Nice coach and may you finish her the way you want.
Cheers!
He closed everything outside. The door that came open was the air entry door next to me.
I am thoroughly enjoying this ride!!! Just like being a kid and riding with Grandma to the Fox theater in St. Louis!!
An a buzzin dozen gotta love it
Engine sounds fantastic.
Can't get enough of these videos
Just now subscribed!
Also enjoy your New format of showing quick pics of past work
Ohhh that sound. his first bus with the famous buzzin dozen. thank you both for taking me along for the ride. he handled it like a champ.
It sounds great, and you are a brave man.
Thank you for this fabulous ride , I really feel inside the bus , good original sound "
Wow what a sweet bus. And got it for a steal too. That 12v71 sounds like it means business. Great video!
Fore sure those 12v71 detroits are beast,, you sure have some high power plenty of horses,, i had a 12v71 in a small 38 ft steel tug boat,, 48 inch propeller twindisc 514 3/1 transmmision that was used to tow construction barges harbor and short coastal trips weather permiting this boat was an animal,,,!
Thanks for sharing the joy ride!😀👍
I never will forget driving an 82 Eagle through Charlotte NC(I-85). It had a 6V92T that belched so much black smoke that it’d make the noontime sun disappear. The bus was owned by a Christian ministry so the phone # was on the side & back of it. I had at least six people cuss me out going up the interstate plus the ministry ‘s office phone was lit up with nasty messages. It was a pre- computer 92 and the bus had been in the shop for a Diesel tech to address all the black smoke . He claimed it was normal. The 92 mated to a 740 Allison was a total pig. I think it would have been faster with a 6hp Briggs motor in it.
Didn't know they built a bus with the buzzin dozen! Very cool.
Watching again and the sounds are amazing. At 17:15 the power steering and idling engine sound to me like he is waking up not quite up for a run and was complaining, but once out on the road is feeling great! Also those kids and and rhe lady in the crosswalk probably thought the world was ending as you all passed by, great stuff!
Not only a tour, but a ride, too? Dang, Scott - that's fam-dancy! Monster chainsaw!
That v12 sounds sweet..
drove this old girl like a boss,thanks for the mc6 ride i loved it...got to drive mc2 4 5 7 8 9 ,but not even a sniff of a 6 obviously ,so rare....thanks
Built Detroit Tough. Damn. I'm Totally Finished. The Last Time I've Heard One Of These Was Going On A Greyhound Bus Trip To Pensacola Florida In 1972. Very Rare For Greyhound To Have A Couple Of These Rare Engines In The States Back Then. One Of The Most Durable 12v71 I've Ever Heard On "ANY" Bus. Thank You For That Fantastic Ride. Top That Cummins.
Man I love the sound of an old Detroit. Best sound in the world
You know people get the hell out of the way of a screaming jimmy! Awesome
Great video awesome bus, he’s got a lot of work ahead of him
"The speed limit was 80, so when it hit 80, I kinda backed it down" HAHA
Never rode an MC-6. Saw them traveling out west by bus for the 1st time in 1972. Always wondered why they didn't run in my native southern Louisiana. Found out why many years later.
This fella drives like a professional bus driver, nice wheel work.
Man i miss broward county period, i will see it in june when i move back to south florida for good.
12v71 " EXCELLENT MOTOR " 👍👍 GOOD LUCK IN RESTORING IT DOESN'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN,, GREAT GET UP AN GO POWER..
Mr Paws. Very true
I wish i had one.. I love the sound of the detroit diesel
Sometimes I don't think people know how lucky they are see 2 find a coach that has a 12V in it from the factory
12v71 Beast
This is one of the reasons why I subbed to this channel. Aside from the PDx-4901 "golden chariot", the MCI MC-6 is what I consider the holy Grail of buses if you ask me
Chuga Choo Choo! I'm a train and I approve this video!
He's gotta keep up with them Montfort trucks and the Left lane Chain gang. And them Bull haulers out west. Cool find.
Cool bus! Was just within rock throwing distance of you guys at about the same time. Was staying at my FILs place in Pompano.
Nice!! Hope you have lots of fun with it!
You're going to miss the loud song of the 12v when you get it finished. Awesome Detroits!
GLC 349 .. My dad drove this one and the rest of them in revenue service out of Vancouver and Cache Creek, and he was in the group that deadheaded the whole set south out of Vancouver when they were sold ..
I'm impressed he didn't spill that can of soda!
Buses don't roll like other vehicles
Impressive engine. While I didn't get to actually drive it at one time I worked for Hendrickson and was part of the team doing functional checks on a crane carrier chasis that was being prepped for delivery. Amazing sound and power. It was a 12x6 chasis.
My bad memory, that engine was the 16v71.
20:58 funny to hear the 12V screaming in one direction while the ambulance siren screams by in the other direction.
Hot damn, that engine sounded so good especially the way it idled during the first startup in the video.
The captions say Applause after it started up. I agree. 🎉
Screaming Jimmie. Now that's a project.
Music to my ears ! Awesome bus brother, I have a Blue Bird Wanderlodge diesel pusher, cat 3208 turbo...
I never thought any coach bus used a "Dirty Dozen"..This is one evil sounding bus!
All it needs is a turbo or maybe two.
@@prevost8686.... if your going to turbocharge it... you need to do a lot more than just add a turbo (or two).
Love the sound of a buzzin dozen!
Looks like a smooth quite ride
That thing is a beast!
I worked on these at greyhound in the '70s!
Cool bus love it. Like an old grey hound.
I love that sound!
Many years ago now actually road one of these from Toronto, Ontario to Winnipeg, Manitoba It was going back to the factory for some reason Actually was a really quick trip The one I got to ride really moved along
That's interesting, Larry..... what year would that have been, about? Most, if not all the MC6's were on scheduled run's between Cow Town (Calgary) and Vancouver, until they were retired.
Love that power!
I was hooked at 12v71.
But I still hold onto my dream of shoving an 8v92 twin turbo in the back of a Scenic.
I got to drive a Kenworth with a twin turbo 8v92 under the hood in the late 90's, and was impressed with how well mannered the engine was as compared to its older little brother. It also got better fuel mileage than the 8v71, actually breaking over 6.
I wonder how easy it would be to replace the 4 speed with a 10 speed.
Love the oldies, but I'm amazed at how many people buy them without having much mechanical knowledge or experience, and just bumble their way around. This ol' boy definitely has good luck on his side, because buying this bus and showing up without even a screwdriver to drive it 1000 miles home is just asking for trouble. It makes me cringe when people think they have to run it up to top governed speed before shifting. Really enjoy listening to that big ol' 12 …. just wish it got better treatment.
Joe Black Jimmies run better, longer when you drive em like you stole em. They prefer high rpm’s and sound like they’re spinning twice as fast as they actually are because there’s twice as many power strokes per revolution.
@@nikograham8964 He's got 4 gears, and these engines don't like pulling below 1400 and don't go over 2100. Yeah, I'd say you need to rev it all the way out or you could do more damage. It's not like Detroit don't love to rev anyway.
Classy Punisher sticker on the yellow dodge!
Cool bus but you are a brave man to ride with him lol!
When they built those here at MCI, the shop employees would all grab a side, lift it up and slip the body dollies underneath. Of course a bare shell, but still heavy. These are before my time, glad he has one with the V-12. U.S. buses were converted to V-8s, Canadian ones kept the 12s.
Buzzin dozen 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Big dreams, but dreams, ambition and money all have to exist in equal proportion. I don't know if this guy has the chops for it.
This was a first for me, never seen an early bus with a buzzin dozend before this myself, it sure is packed in there.
Very cool to ride along
Awesome channel!
Sure is a really neat and extremely rare bus! Is only 100 made I doubt more than 20 are driveable but that's just my o2.
Btw hope you do keep in contact with him maybe help him with the engine or the bus. You seem very experinced.
The buzzin’ dozen! They seem to lope for the first minute after a cold start, then suddenly smooth out.
Leaning towards an MCI-7 two stroke bus over a Eagle Series 60 four stroke based on your vids. Makita 7" cutoff will trip them rails down in no time .Massive undertaking building one out so it looks pro , good luck though !