Many years since I first came across what I used to call the Phil Gould reverse hi hat groove (1986). Really good that you have broken this down for me as never knew how to approach it. Also great to know people like yourself the other side of the pond having got into the Phil Gould/ Level 42 sound. All the best, Paul H (UK).
Its the ghost notes he plays on that pattern. Check out hot water and the chorus on lessons in love. Watch his left hand. It’s outrageous! Love the channel, bro!
Loved Phil’s drumming with Level 42. When people were rattling on about “the bass player in that band” I was the one pointing out just how steady and funky the drumming was. Was very lucky to meet Phil at a master class a couple of years ago and he is such a nice guy. Never meet your hero’s ? So glad I did
Phil Gould was so cool, man, I used to always dig his drumming when Level 42 used to be cruising on the charts. Somewhere in my storage space, among my stack of old MD magazines, I still have that issue with him on the cover. LOL!
From 1983 to 1987 Phil was my drumhero. I was 15 in 1983, and was having my first drumset. Every day when i came home from school i would practice along to all the great songs from the Standing In The Light album. The next year 1984 True Colours was released, and i would practice Hot Water, True Believer and the extremely well groovin A Floating Life and Kansas City Milkman. Then in late summer 1985 World Machine was released. To me the title song, Lying Still, and of course Physical Presence was my favorites. From 1987's Running In The Family, the track The Sleepwalkers again shows how much Phil's playing was in the pocket. And today, four decades later, Phil to me is still among the greatest drummers of all time.
Phil Gould is an awesome drummer and so is the current drummer Pete Ray Biggen. Thanks for breaking this down. I have always wondered how Phil had such a nice groove to his playing.
YES! You are the first person that I have heard talk about Phil Gould. I loved Level42 when I was in Highschool. Their song Something About You has been a favorite of mine from the time I heard it. Gret video Rob and a most useful groove.
Rob,love your passion for Mr Gould,I've watched your channel for years ( maximum thumperfacation ). Grew up here in the UK, listening to him n the band,I'm now 48,but,man you NEEEED TO meet him,do a session with him,cause he is amazing human being,please someone, get this to happen 🤞🤞🤞🤞,cheers Rob🙏
back in the late 80's i dug the shit out of their album world machine and was wayyyyyy impressed by the ability Phil had of holding the groove without doin crazy articulated fills and his highhat ghost notes
Rob, this is brilliant. Not sure if you recall but as a fellow Phil Gould fan, I asked you about this in your drummers hang in October '21! Just found one of my comments (referring to his use of it in Hot Water on the live album) when we talked about it at the time: "It's on the physical presence album. But it's a very Phil Gould thing where he opens his hats mid groove in the sort of way you would play the hihat pedal on 2and4 when playing the ride"
Level 42 one of fav band of all time. Phil Gould one of fav drummers of all time. Great watch Rob. Thank you. 1 of my faves songs is Tracie. Phil's groove is awesome.
@@RobBeatdownBrown Now that I think about it, doesn't "Good Man In A Storm" use this groove at a slower tempo on the verses? Or is he doing the two instead of three on the hi-hat with that one?
Thank you a lot Rob! Pure dope, as always. This is not a simple groove, but a musical vocabulary to add to our playing. Music oriented. Keep the great work Rob!!!
I love your “play through the snare” technique. Do you have a video on this? Thomas Lang does this as well where he buries the stick rather than let it bounce.
Nice vid. However, I think Phil's left foot was playing 8th notes on the hi-hat. He played this pattern with triplets on Lessons In Love, Children Say, Fashion Fever, Hot Water and a few others. If you look on the Lessons In Love official video you can see his left foot 'bouncing', creating 8th notes during the chorus.
Merci beaucoup Je suis un grand fan de Level 42 et Phil Gould que j'ai vus à l'Olympia Paris dans les 80 Tellement funk Mark King et Phil Gould Je suis agréablement surpris par vos goûts musicaux. Merci encore pour votre chaîne RUclips Christophe from France I am sure you know Mark Craney with Gino Vanelli too. He was a master.
Great combination of a groove with a feet-lifting stomp along with the hi-hat swinging the arms in a “forward motion”. Level 42, four funketeers, relied on Phil and Boon being in the pocket with Mark and Mike; a great period of the band’s musical history and one which I also admire both live and on disc.
Yo check out jaki Liebezeit, all drummers need to know this dude, personally my favourite drummer of all time, and one of the least heard of, cheers Rob, love your channel, god bless ya
Lovely. A touch of Motown there ("pea-soup"). There's a lot to like about the simplicity, and it grooves because the hi-hat sort of anticipates the next downbeat giving the whole thing momentum. When are the signature shoes coming out?
I find it funny when you talk about as in counting. Phil's been playing triplets for years. (not having a dig btw). I asked him ages ago on facebook before I got hacked why he alternated between right and left hand playing. He said he'd play open handed when a song didn't have ghost notes (IIRC) I'm not sure what drum track your playing of his on this. Is this his new album?
Woe Woe Woe - did you just say " or with the right foot if you're a left handed drummer"? Bro - thank you for saying that. As a left handed drummer I wish drum teachers would refer to the Bass drum or the High Hat rather than left or right foot in lessons.
Hell yeah, awesome track,fast paced song but implementing this groove so so well. Grew up with these guys from age of 12 now 48!! Seen all their drummer's on various tours .Much respect 😉
I still use his hi hat pattern from Hot Water to this day. Phil Gould was a massive influence in my early 20s. Now 54.
Many years since I first came across what I used to call the Phil Gould reverse hi hat groove (1986). Really good that you have broken this down for me as never knew how to approach it. Also great to know people like yourself the other side of the pond having got into the Phil Gould/ Level 42 sound. All the best, Paul H (UK).
Its the ghost notes he plays on that pattern. Check out hot water and the chorus on lessons in love. Watch his left hand. It’s outrageous! Love the channel, bro!
Loved Phil’s drumming with Level 42. When people were rattling on about “the bass player in that band” I was the one pointing out just how steady and funky the drumming was. Was very lucky to meet Phil at a master class a couple of years ago and he is such a nice guy. Never meet your hero’s ? So glad I did
Phil belongs in the Groove Masters Club with Purdie, Porcaro, and "JR"!!
You got that right!!!
Phil Gould absolutely One of the Best...
This Solo, his playing 1985 (1987), such Original and Great !
Not many people realize this but Phil is one of Neil Peart's favorite drummers 👍💕
Nice instructions. Ill give it a try. Nice kicks too!
Phil Gould is top notch. He was definitely the guy I watched for that phenomenal groove.
even Peart admired Gould, for the simplicity that is far from simple
Phil Gould was so cool, man, I used to always dig his drumming when Level 42 used to be cruising on the charts. Somewhere in my storage space, among my stack of old MD magazines, I still have that issue with him on the cover. LOL!
First time I heard this groove was on Level 42s "Lessons In Love" in 1984. Simply the best.
I thought that was in 88?
1986
@@danlc95 1986
Thanks for turning me onto Level 42 🤘🏻🥁
From 1983 to 1987 Phil was my drumhero. I was 15 in 1983, and was having my first drumset. Every day when i came home from school i would practice along to all the great songs from the Standing In The Light album. The next year 1984 True Colours was released, and i would practice Hot Water, True Believer and the extremely well groovin A Floating Life and Kansas City Milkman. Then in late summer 1985 World Machine was released. To me the title song, Lying Still, and of course Physical Presence was my favorites. From 1987's Running In The Family, the track The Sleepwalkers again shows how much Phil's playing was in the pocket. And today, four decades later, Phil to me is still among the greatest drummers of all time.
Yess!!!!!!!!!!! a Very important Groove Element. It wakes up a Groove. Cheers.
Phil Gould is an awesome drummer and so is the current drummer Pete Ray Biggen. Thanks for breaking this down. I have always wondered how Phil had such a nice groove to his playing.
Phil's triplet grooves are some of my favorites... Thanks Rob :)
I knew you were the MAIN MAN. Loved Phil. Love his vibe, his swing, His delivery. What a guy.
Who haven't heard for level 42 and Mark King?:)....yeah,Phis is phenomenal player!
YES! You are the first person that I have heard talk about Phil Gould. I loved Level42 when I was in Highschool. Their song Something About You has been a favorite of mine from the time I heard it. Gret video Rob and a most useful groove.
Rob,love your passion for Mr Gould,I've watched your channel for years ( maximum thumperfacation ). Grew up here in the UK, listening to him n the band,I'm now 48,but,man you NEEEED TO meet him,do a session with him,cause he is amazing human being,please someone, get this to happen 🤞🤞🤞🤞,cheers Rob🙏
This groove makes made think of Phil's part on The Sleepwalkers, which I hadn't thought of in years! Thanks for that! Such a great track.
Holy moly, that groove sounds good. I also love the fills in the intro
used on hot water, lessons in love and you can't blame louis!
Phil was one of my very first favorites. He and Jeff Porcaro. I always thought Phil or Vinnie would have been a great one to carry Jeff's torch.
back in the late 80's i dug the shit out of their album world machine and was wayyyyyy impressed by the ability Phil had of holding the groove without doin crazy articulated fills and his highhat ghost notes
Nice work, I haven't played in over 30 years. But still love watching Your videos. Thank You for what You do.
Rob, this is brilliant. Not sure if you recall but as a fellow Phil Gould fan, I asked you about this in your drummers hang in October '21! Just found one of my comments (referring to his use of it in Hot Water on the live album) when we talked about it at the time:
"It's on the physical presence album. But it's a very Phil Gould thing where he opens his hats mid groove in the sort of way you would play the hihat pedal on 2and4 when playing the ride"
Agree 💯. Phil is my greatest funk groove type influence. Brit funk's finest.
Level 42 one of fav band of all time. Phil Gould one of fav drummers of all time. Great watch Rob. Thank you. 1 of my faves songs is Tracie. Phil's groove is awesome.
I think that song was actually Gary Husband on drums. From the album after Phil and Boon left the band.
@@craiglerwill8809 Gary Husband, another great drummer. The song "Man" would be a great breakdown.
Thanks!
Phil's drumming in Level 42 was just brilliant! Thanks for bringing some attention to his awesomeness! ;-)
Thanks
"That is Why I Can't Walk You Home..."
Phil's such a badass!
THAT tune 😩🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@RobBeatdownBrown Now that I think about it, doesn't "Good Man In A Storm" use this groove at a slower tempo on the verses? Or is he doing the two instead of three on the hi-hat with that one?
"It could get you out of a traffic ticket" 😂😂😂
Level 42 are a great band. Phil Gould is a great drummer. Thanks for sharing this. Great information. Cheers, Rob! ✌️🥁
That snare man!... 🔥
Agree Rob,he was at his best on "live at Wembley" gig.
Love them PAISTES.. Great sound all around the kit!
Snare is cracking! Love it! Best wishes from Croatia 🙏🏻🌈
YES, YES & YES!!!!!
Man...this is a great upload...! Phil was an absolute beast 👏🏾..! Great he's being recognised as a top drummer.
Thanks for sharing. Happy Drumming!
Love your videos. You’re the man. At 73 it’s more than I can do. But it’s something to work on. Thanks.
Love it!! Level 42 are OG's
Thank you a lot Rob! Pure dope, as always. This is not a simple groove, but a musical vocabulary to add to our playing. Music oriented. Keep the great work Rob!!!
5:56 🔥👊🧡👍🔥 Sweet!
Merci !
Oooh Phil Gould grooves are the grooviest, and so are you! Now lead it with your left hand!
Thank you Rob, a little hint with a great impact....and also nice to re-discover Level 42.
Really cool. Sort of an inversion of the Blue Wind/Jeff Beck intro.
Rob every time I watch you I always slam my left foot on the hi-hat ‘like’ button. And I mean I smash it hard. Thanks.
Love your channel Rob, I met Pastor Mike in Norman, OK. Know he's a big fan and has invited you to the area, c'mon down man...great video!
Belgium is here, Phil Gould doesn’t live too far away!
gettin' me out some traffic ticket...thanx Rob.
Level 42 also had the best bass player of the day. Note to self I have got to get myself some heavier stick. I keep forgetting.
I love your “play through the snare” technique. Do you have a video on this? Thomas Lang does this as well where he buries the stick rather than let it bounce.
Wednesday afternoon drum lesson from Rob. Thanks dude
Great breakdown, Rob ✌🏼
Thanks Rob … loved this one mate .. 🎶 🥁🇦🇺
Nice little groove🤘🏻🥁
Love it!
The boom crack thanks bro
That’s an excellent breakdown, great work and thank you 👍
Nice vid. However, I think Phil's left foot was playing 8th notes on the hi-hat. He played this pattern with triplets on Lessons In Love, Children Say, Fashion Fever, Hot Water and a few others. If you look on the Lessons In Love official video you can see his left foot 'bouncing', creating 8th notes during the chorus.
Thanks man.
My first drum hero. Phil Gould. Unique!
Nuggets of gold amigo
Como siempre
Awesome groove
Thanks for reminding me of Level 42
🙏🙏🙏🙏as always thank you
Awesome grooving Rob
Aye!! Here we go! I love watching your videos. The style you implement is very inspiring!
-Indiana Love 💯🥁
Level 42 is one of my favorite groups
Great video Rob. Being from the Isle of Wight I managed to purchase Phil’s old piano. Keep up the good work.
Merci beaucoup
Je suis un grand fan de Level 42 et Phil Gould que j'ai vus à l'Olympia Paris dans les 80
Tellement funk Mark King et Phil Gould
Je suis agréablement surpris par vos goûts musicaux.
Merci encore pour votre chaîne RUclips
Christophe from France
I am sure you know Mark Craney with Gino Vanelli too. He was a master.
I've wanted to learn drums forever and I'm turning the keys over to Beatdown
Nice one. ✌️
My band just recently started playing ,"Something About you" Level 42 drummer was tasty.
Man I get the hi hat formula. But the fill in that pattern was tight!
I've made some progress after only at it for less than a month I dig this channel
Great combination of a groove with a feet-lifting stomp along with the hi-hat swinging the arms in a “forward motion”. Level 42, four funketeers, relied on Phil and Boon being in the pocket with Mark and Mike; a great period of the band’s musical history and one which I also admire both live and on disc.
Cool groove man. I'm gonna have some fun with this one.
Yo check out jaki Liebezeit, all drummers need to know this dude, personally my favourite drummer of all time, and one of the least heard of, cheers Rob, love your channel, god bless ya
Fatale weap-on !! 🤩
Ohhhhh you can vibe with this in a wedding
When I hear this groove, I thought of the chorus in "Lessons In Love"
Lovely. A touch of Motown there ("pea-soup"). There's a lot to like about the simplicity, and it grooves because the hi-hat sort of anticipates the next downbeat giving the whole thing momentum. When are the signature shoes coming out?
That snare
2 cymbal crashes on the a of 4 and the one. 💥
Does the paint chip off those sticks?
I find it funny when you talk about as in counting. Phil's been playing triplets for years. (not having a dig btw). I asked him ages ago on facebook before I got hacked why he alternated between right and left hand playing. He said he'd play open handed when a song didn't have ghost notes (IIRC)
I'm not sure what drum track your playing of his on this. Is this his new album?
I'm really going to bear down on this because the last thing I need is another traffic ticket :O
That grove kind of reminds me of the one you were playing at the beginning of your video - Can You Learn 'Pocket'?! 🤔 - 5 Tips For Better Groovin'
True Believers
Yes indeed.
Also Good Man in a Storm. Pretty much this groove.
Are you leaving your stick on the snare head after every beat? Phil G is great by the way!
Rob questo l,ho visto fare anche a Pete Ray Biggin
My left foot is ALWAYS moving when drumming. Even if its not on the hi hat pedal. It just helps keep time.
When you play double kick drums do you lead with the left foot?
Me too so I have to move it on to the floor just to stop it being too repetitive
@@thomasdecorail8825 sometimes !
good
Woe Woe Woe - did you just say " or with the right foot if you're a left handed drummer"? Bro - thank you for saying that. As a left handed drummer I wish drum teachers would refer to the Bass drum or the High Hat rather than left or right foot in lessons.
Phil Gould, ...one number comes to mind ..."43"! If you haven't heard that one, check it out! (Not you Rob, I know you've heard it) !
Yep.
Hell yeah, awesome track,fast paced song but implementing this groove so so well. Grew up with these guys from age of 12 now 48!! Seen all their drummer's on various tours .Much respect 😉