@@Plough78 Thanks Plough, it is a lot of fun on the road, you can feel every combustion stroke. Someone once asked me how fast it goes, I said I think it goes faster than light, because I feel younger every time I get off it. 😂
I bought one a couple of months’ ago as my second bike. It is rapidly becoming my first bike. I thought I’d just be using it for errands about town and the occasional commute, but I am increasingly using it for longer distance rides. The Himalayan 452 is a cracking machine.
A himalayan 450 é boa para viagens longas? distâncias de 800 ou 1000 quilômetros em um único dia, Onde se tem que manter constantemente velocidade de 120km/H , 130 km/H
@@Sanemancured Well, until a couple of weeks’ ago it was a Harley Davidson Ultra Limited but I’ve now sold that and will buy a new “main” bike in the New Year. Until then the Himalayan is now my only bike. I don’t ride all that much in the winter though, only when the roads are dry because I hate getting salt on my bike and am not a big fan of cleaning the things in cold weather. My wife never rides with me in the winter though (basically, because she’s sensible) so the Himalayan is more than enough for the next three months or so. For my next main bike I’ve been thinking of a Goldwing. However, I recently tried a Voge 900 and was extremely impressed. It has just about all the features of the Goldwing but is more than £20K less expensive, so if I buy a Voge as my main touring bike I can easily justify getting a third bike as well! Fortunately I have a few weeks to debate this, so I’m sure I’ll change my mind many times before I finally decide which to get.
Reasonable review, Dave. Some vibration on a 450 single? Who would have thought? It's a single, folks... 😉 Having started riding singles back in 1958 - and no, that's not a typo - it's something that one gets used to; it confirms that one is riding a motorcycle, rather than astride a 'fridge - or one's ex!
@@martynpearce4754 I run an '05 Moto Guzzi, so I can well understand what you're saying! Back in the '60's I used to ride a sprung-hub Thunderbird, which also vibrated quite a bit. 😁
Trouble is what sort of vibrations! I wanted this single to feel a bit more like my 660 single, but felt just like the 125s and 250s of my youth unfortunately. .
Hi from Australia I rode the Himalayan couple of weeks ago lovely bike, great pull, fantastic brakes. In fact I prefer the Himalayan to my Suzuki DRZ400E and Honda CRF300L, I've got my order in for my Himalayan with tubed tires. All I need next is a Classic 650cc twin and Shotgun 650 and my life will be complete also a scrambler
Any person who rides a Himalayan 450 back to back against a Suzuki DRZ400, will want the Himalayan. That's because the Suzuki is a short stroke engine, with nearly no low end torque. The 2024 Himalayan is the only single cylinder motorcycle made today with a super long stroke engine. Long stroke engines are SO much more fun at low speed, it's like having twice the torque off idle, and twice the throttle response. For example, ride a DR350 from 1993, and it's FAR more enjoyable and feels MORE POWERFUL than a modern DRZ400, because the DR350 has a significantly longer stroke, and significantly more off idle torque. Royal Enfield went against modern trends, and did the unspeakable, by making a super long stroke engine. Long stroke engines haven't been in style since the 1960's. The 2nd Generation Hayabusa is a long stroke engine, which is why it's known for being such an enjoyable torquey bike to ride. The Honda Transalp 750 is a short stroke engine. Most all the new bikes are short stroke engines. It's actually shocking that Royal Enfield didn't follow the standard trend of making an ultra short stroke, high revving engine. A short stroke engine would have had significantly less vibration at speed, but it would have been dog slow on technical trails, and would have been much harder for beginners to ride fast. The new 450 engine has the following specifications: Bore and stroke is 84mm x 81.5 mm (3.307" x 3.208" inches). For a general comparison: Suzuki DRZ400: 90mm x 62.6mm (3.54" x 2.44" inches). Suzuki DR350: 79.0 mm × 71.2 mm Honda Transalp 750: 87.0mm x 63.5mm. Aprillia Tuereg: 81 mm x 63.93 mm. Suzuki DR650: 100.0 x 82.0mm.
@@starseeddeluxe i've only ever ridden two bikes, a DRZ400S (my own! proud sixth owner in the EU) and a ninja 400, the driving school's bike. i was under the impression the DRZ has more low end torque, and would be a better choice for steep-ish off-road tracks? i keep hearing the Himalayan has 'no low end'? thought i'd ask you ask you're clearly knowledgeable! cheers
Leaning on the side stand always used to be a trait for off road types because it makes them easier to get onboard if you got little legs , something that i know a lot about as im only 5’6” and as a youth i loved my off road bikes
When people want a Himalayan to ride at motorway speeds then what they really want is a differnet bike. A morotcycle should make the rider aware there is an engine down there, and the vibrations are just there to let the rider know how hard the engine is working. The riding pleasure:- Sound, feel, and movement. Maybe the only smooth silent ride will be when all is electric but that will be no fun what-so-ever.
I bought the touring screen. Frankly, it’s no better than the standard one. I’m waiting to see a third party screen which gives sensible protection, which I will certainly buy.
What a load of bollox. There is a mile of grey area inbetween a clanking, clattering, vibrating ride and a totally smooth, silent, sterilized ride. The only real question is where on that spectrum this bike lies. Excessive vibration is one of the least pleasurable motorcycling sensations. It's not something anybody who has ridden for any length of time looks forward to.
This motorcycle rides perfectly well at motorway speeds, I do a 180 mile trip regularly in one go, no stops at anywhere between 70 and 90 mph. It’s all about expectations.
I had a 2020 model and rode it to and from work for 3 years. Great little motorcycle. I traded in for interceptor 650 just for a change of pace. Miss taking it on the farm roads and dirt trails
A nice bike wouldn't knock it at all. However, I've gone with a Suzuki v-strom, bought it two weeks ago new from Appleyards Keighley couldn't have had a nicer experience. I've just managed to clock up just a nudge over two hundred miles on it and starting to get familiar with it, a lovely bike I have to say. The bike I've been riding for the past six years was a gl1800 so one heck of a difference , and to be expected. Appleyards did point this out on purchase but like you David, I'm at the stage in life where i have to be sensible and admit defeat as I'm the wrong side of seventy now. Could praise Appleyards enough, great dealership.
Old trick for vibrations was to loosen all the attachment points of the engine and then retorque to spec. That usually took care of some of the vibs.. If you remember the ST/Pan was a VERY smooth motor...Good vid btw. 🇨🇦🇬🇧🇺🇸
Great review Dave; agree with all that you said. I’ve got 10k on my 411 and Hera has done some really tough trails in and around the Yorkshire Dales and my engine bash plate has the dents, buckles and gouges to show. I haven’t rode the 450 but looking at it in my dealers it just seems to nice a bike to subject it to the bedrock, stones, ruts and river crossings of the North York Moors and Yorkshire Dales. Though I must admit a bit more powers on banks etc would be really nice, especially as I ride two up a lot too. A cracking bike that seems to answer most peoples issues with the 411’s engine and front brake performance etc. Of course switchable ABS helps greatly off road too. Nice one Dave; ride safe fella.
Most of my beef is about the instrumentation + mobile integration, which will only be useful for a few years. I’d rather have an analog instrument that stays 100% useful forever, and put all the mobile integration into a replaceable nav device.
I bought one of the first 2025 Himalayan 450s in the US. Have not gotten a chance to go riding yet. I'm very excited to get going and one thing I wish factories would do is break in and first adjustments in house. I personally would give 5 to 10 % more for that on MSRP. When I get on a bike I want to get going without having to remember anything other than the way home. 😅
Great review, nice to see the English Countryside, for me the Vibrations occur when on highway when one is travelling at consistent higher speeds, it wasn't a game changer for me ,just something noticeable primarily in the handlebars, I'm comming off the original after doing 44000km across 7 countries, I'm moving to Chennai next week and going to buy the new 450, intresting in relation to the side stand if you have opposite lock on the handlebars prior to mounting it, the bike naturally sits upright, I had no issues or struggle at 5 foot 8 Cheers Noel
Hey Dave, what a lovely second review on this bike….. much as I had a bit of a love affair with the 411. I definitely think this latest offering this morning in line with my desire for a big single with enough oomph to satisfy all types of riding comfortably. Thank you for all the details and thoroughness in your reviews….
Great review of a very interesting Bike. The Aussie off riding ace Adam Riemann takes one of these across the Himalayas, the bike literally laps up everything the trip throws at it, it's a four part film if you want to see literally what this bike os capable of, incredible scenery too!
I wanted one. Ordered one just after the NEC 2023 ......tested the bike and was disappointed with the end product so much, so I cancelled it. I think the hype was better than the bike!
People complaining about the vibrations on a single are riding the wrong bike. Of course they vibrate. I have a Scram 411, it vibrates, i had a 2022 KLR, it vibrated, rode a WR 250R guess what, it vibrated. I would wager that the new Ducati 698 Mono even has some vibrations. I think some people comment about vibrations because thats what everybody else says or what they think is the right thing to say. Too many parrots on youtube. Good to hear someone with some common sense commenting that a single cylinder engine vibrates a little.
@8:20 The road on your left there would have been perfect for the Himalayan! No through road except motorcycles and cycles! You'll have to take your viewers along there some time 👍
Thanks for the fine review...thinking about this bike...I currently have a LC GS1200 as my touring bike, but also bought a 2021 BMW GS310 little over a year and a half ago...find myself riding the 310 almost 100% of the time...this Royal Enfield could be a replacement for the 310-if I try it and like it better!
I test rode this bike and bought a tubeless one in white. On the test ride (it was on 250 miles) there were initially some uncomfortable high pitched vibes through the foot-pegs on the local bypass , although by the end of the test ride (a very warm engine?) i didn’t notice them. It is not a deal breaker for me. Try the Keighley bypass wheeler so you can hold 70mph region. The vibes may just be a running in/cold engine issue, as i say though not sufficient to be a deal breaker for me its a cracking all rounder, plush suspension , great brakes, and very comfortable and importantly fun
I wanted to get the tubeless but I was under money restrictions along with availability issues in the US. Maybe someday I will upgrade if it becomes an issue. Good rolling brother!!!!
Wow Dave, this is spooky. I revisited the Himi 450 a couple of days ago (will be edited tonight), riding it harder on normal roads, and taking it on the motorway to try and find those vibes people are reporting. I had read/heard people talking about the distracting vibes through the bars, more so than the footpegs….🤔 When you watch my offering, you will see just how similar our take on things (even regarding comparisons) are, just worded slightly differently. Some people might think I have copied you, but honestly, it was a couple of days ago. We are away from my computer until this afternoon, hence why it wasn’t released before this one of yours 😉. I do ride it a bit more…..well, let’s say….”spirited”, and will have to pixelate the speedo in places 😂 Nice review again, all the best.
No worries Ian like conclusions are good for my sanity. I couldn’t get it to unduly vibrate at any speed. I did take it on the bypass to see how close the three figures but didn’t film it 😎
I currently own the 411 and love it but have yet to try the 450. I too have seen the very mixed reviews, some like yourself, singing very highly of it and Nathan Millward, who I know personally and have a great deal of respect for, who is a little less impressed. ( that’s not me saying I don’t respect your views). As you say, the differing thoughts on vibration does stand out. It’s quite possible that there are differences between bikes, I have seen this in other models. Another factor is how people ride, if a bike gets a bit of a shake on at the top of the rev range but the rider never winds it up there then there’s no problem. The next guy/ girl/ walnut or whatever may thrash the ti*s of it so to them it’s got a vibration issue. But possibly more significant is the differing sensitivity of people to vibration, some will ride a bike for an hour and have numb hands, others a 12 hour day an no issues whatsoever. As I said, I’ve yet to try the 450 but for me my attachment to my 411 is probably more likely to stop me trading it in more than anything. Keep up the good work mate. Oh yeah, Crosstourer was another one that leant over so far it was a real tug to get it upright too.
For what it's worth, I took delivery of my Himalayan 450 on 1st June, I have removed the rubber inserts on the riders footrests as I am not a fan of them and prefer the feel of the metal under my boots. It has to be said that I have not experienced any noticeable foot rest vibrations in the 265 miles that I have so far done. I owned a 411 before the 450 and the 411 vibrated more but it was not unpleasant. They are single cylinder motors after all so a little bit of mechanical harmony is expected.
The reason for the lean in side stand is so that shorter riders can easily hop on to the saddle and the use their right leg to force the entire bike to stand upright. 😁
I was surprised by the side stand lean, and does feel heavy the first time getting on. This was testing in showroom on flat ground. I’m sure you would get used to it. But like with every bike do a sit test first.
I assume it vibrates quite a bit less than the Classic 350? I currently own the 350 but am looking to pick up the Himalayan when it's available here in the states.
My pals 411 used to vibrate through the pegs until it got to a thousand miles and he thought he got used to it but i had a go and we decided that the vibration is going as the miles go up
You forgot to mention the 400 Triumphs. Now to me the Enfield is far superior than the garage queen Triumph but then again at my age I'm possibly not its target audience. Great video on a great bike Dave.
Totally agree… all bikes vibrate and so they should. Riding a bike is all about the sensory experience and engagement with it aa an engine and machine. It’s about ‘feel’ and ‘feedback’ from the bike to the rider. I want to feel and hear what the engine is doing. I did a one hour test ride on one a couple of weeks back and thought it was a great riding experience.
No, not all bikes. For some, vibrations are a sign of something wrong.. V4s for example have almost perfect first and secondary balance. Any hint of vibration on my ST1100 and it's time for a carb balance. Singles are a different story of course, but even there it depends on the design. The KTM390 Duke is very smooth for example.
At 25:50 he says new Himmy has quite a long stroke compared to other models. Well it doesn't compared to the old Himmy, it had a 86mm stroke vs the new one at only 81.5mm
First thing I would do with this bike is look for a proper windshield, second would be to replace that upper front fender to one more like on the original Himalayan. I dont like that enduro looking thing. Other than that, I would be happy with this bike. Currently, I have over 20,000 kms on my 2022 Himy. Other than just a little slow on open highways, I would keep it.
I agree completely about the windshield, but I like the upper fender. That lower fender is a disaster waiting to happen. And for a minimal cost, they could have just added better mirrors and a larger rack in the back. Also, the lower engine guards should have been standard.
I can’t understand why people complain about vibes in footrests . They are getting a free foot massage as an added bonus . I would be more concerned about ,unnecessary gubbins such as fly by wire throttle & quick shifter on what’s supposed to be an adventure bike . My choice if after a Himalayan would be a good used or pre registered 411 for a bargain price, it also looks better & the 25 hp is adequate for ,what I require on this type of motorcycle .
@@idontwantahandle12345 I know the 450 has a fly by wire throttle I mentioned that fact in my comment . It’s one of the reasons i am not a fan of the 450 & prefer the 411 Himalayan that has a proper throttle cable & less tech . Less tech is a big advantage on these types of bikes, the less to cause potential issues ,& leave the rider stranded miles from civilisation .
I still didn't like the vibrations because they made it feel like a 125/250, my choice to change my order to Shotgun 650 (which has vibrations that don't make it feel like a small bike) was the right choice. Its vibrations are great and the engine is fantasticly characterful. Love it!
I took one out last week and rode it with the seat in the high position, Very comfortable until it got to 65mph on a dual carriageway, The vibration through the seat and into the rear of my butt was extremely uncomfortable , I will have another ride on a different demo bike just to see if it does the same. If it is then I might have to look at the CF Moto 450 as an alternative.
Just checked my subscriber status and showed not subscribed? Although I did. It seems a few RUclipsrs are experiencing this issue. As regards lifting bike of side stand try turning the bars fully clockwise first then lift bike up you will find it lifts up way easier 👍
Good fair review BW. I'm pleased to see you out for another spin once the engine has a few more hours on it. A few thoughts from me. Maybe the real competition for the RE could be one of the CFmoto 450 twins. The MT in particular could fit the small adventure bike role nicely and the 270 degree crank should be very smooth. Appleyards sell both so Yorkshire folk will have the chance to rest ride both or even the NK version of the cf 450 - lucky sods!
Looking forward to that one Dave. It looks like a cracking bike and I just saw a picture of the new RE Guerilla. It looks interesting but I suspect we will see other bikes use that 450 single.
Thank you for the review. One remark about the side stand on trail bikes : my Himalayan 411 has a kit of suspensions and is 2 cm higher than normal as the 450. The stand being on the left side, it is much easier to lift it IF THE FRONT WHEEL POINTS FULLY TO THE RIGHT. I know that since my .. Yamaha 125 DTMX back in 1979 😉 Like the vibrations, those complaints repeted ALL the time on social medias exasperate me in the end! Like the 2 way to pronounce Himalayan is BORING my friends! STOP the epidemy please 😵💫 That bike is excellent, modern, not in the same segment of the market than the old one. A great bike to do everything. As a 2nd bike for the "lanes" and the today SLOW trafic, I choose the old one for the vintage air cooled 2 valves engine the make the 411 a proud member of the Bullet , Classic, Meteor or Hunter family ✌
I almost got the Suzuki DR650 . When I learned about the 450 Himalayan, I changed my mind very quickly. Still love and respect the DR 650, but it is more than I need, and I am using my purchase for a multipurpose investment. Maybe someday I will have a wonderful return on our investment
Great review!!! Agree with your comments including the footpeg vibe thing. I cut my teeth on old BSAs (250 and 650) if you really want to talk vibrations 😁I have no interest in offroad or motorways etc but I think this new Himalayan will make a fantastic road bike ...... on interesting roads like the ones in your review. I took a test ride a few weeks ago and thought the engine might be a disappointment ....... how wrong I was! That 450 single packs a wonderful punch even from low down and keeps on pulling ....... the engine even looks good, considering it's water cooled, and the gearbox is just as slick as my Hntr 350 ..... yet another marvel from Royal Enfield. All the best, Phil (Somerset)
Nice video Dave. Im due to ride one soon, ive read about the vibrations, the stand and also that its down on power? Did you think it was powerful or should i say that it felt like 40hp? Cheers for the video, Sean
Thank you Sean I’ll be interested to see your take on it when you ride. It feels like more than 40 bhp probably because of the very long stroke engine which makes for more low rev punch…..let me know what you think buddy 👍🏻
Wonders never cease, people complaining about vibration on a single cylinder motorcycle, clearly they have led a sheltered life. As for the Himalayan 450 , it's a good looking motorcycle that's well equipped and competitively priced, it will I am sure will appeal to those bikers looking for a mid weight adventure bike (used to be called a Trial Bike back in the day) the only negative for me is the particular bike you tested was painted in such a bland non descript colour , which really didn't do it any favours.
im just not getting the 2 front splash guards, IMO it looks more like a scrambler hence the lean angle on the side stand but then they decided to stick the top splash guard on to give it an adventure bike look, might just be me being a northern monkey but if you had a choice between the Himalayan or a Triumph Scramble 400X which would you pick ?
From what I've seen both bikes had aftermarket lower protection bars from a different manufacturer and they were either a bad fit or not torqued up correctly therefore the frame to engine flexed causing the frame to stress crack and fail.
Outstanding review. You are a stylish gentleman. What Bike Slacks are you wearing? Getting back into motorcycles, behind current knowledge. In addition to buying the 450. New apparel; helmet, boots, etc.? Any suggestions would be most welcomed. Cheers from the USA.
Hi I just searched for “retro motorcycle trousers” on eBay and found loads of options. Don’t skimp on the helmet…..Arai, Shoei, HJC or other premium brand….basically the best you can afford. Take a look at Falco boots 👍🏻
@@thebingleywheeler Thank you very much for your rapid response! I appreciate your wise suggestions. "Basically the best you can afford" is the simple truth.
Booked a test ride for Tuesday so ill find out for myself , itll make a real nice stable mate for my Interceptor ! I was considering the MT450 but as ive had a MotoMorini X-Cape languishing in the dealers since February and still can't bottom the issue im very reluctant to go down the chinese route again !
I have paid for mine and should be picking it up tomorrow, just in time for the ABR festival but my insurer Bennetts don’t have an insurance price for it, If you have one, which insurance company did you use? HEEEEELP
I ride a brand that vibrates A LOT, and I would welcome less vibration as the aging process progresses. Rust never sleeps🥴. Question: is there a slight throttle delay in the Himalayan fly-by-wire? My wife rides a 2008 Harley Road King with a throttle delay that is annoying. I was told it’s “normal” (that bike is for sale.) We had HD bikes on the PD, and I feel it is time to part ways after many years.
I didn't feel any delay at all when I test rode one, but there's no feeling of horsepower pull until 2000 revs. The old Himalayan had instant tractor pull at the extreme low end which I missed
I rode the original Himalayan & the bike stood far too upright for my liking & saw lots of comments saying the same. Maybe that's why they've changed it. I didn't like the seat on the original. I seemed to slope forwards & crush my nards against the tank! Does the new one do that too?
Cracking review TBW, once little quirks like the vibrations through the pegs, are pointed out to then it can sometimes become a fixation too. Unfortunately, you Sir are now guilty of the same, since you mentioned the screen, I can't get Darth Vader outta my head 🤣🤣🤣, Lovely bike though, thanks for the video.
referen vibrations i havent rode the 450 2 yet but i have rode 4ts and up to recent bikes some off the vibes wingers should ride some older bikes then they would know about vibes perhaps
Good Morning Dave , Thanks again for another review on the Himalayan 450 , tbh i think the cf moto 450 will do some damage to sales on the himi , take care & ride safe
I think this bike could have a better weight management, but hey, that's just me. I heard they testing the himalayan 650 twins, maybe that will be smoother.
That bike would do me fine a big single a few vibes in its raw form wouldn’t bother me I’m a plant operator you ever operated an excavator full of rattles and vibration ,the price of the bike is value and this one has the power not like the old 411 I had ,I’d have to watch my licence with the 450 it’s got a bit of grunt on it I like it fine,great for the 500 and the hills in Scotland ,I’ll have to cut out a few thing and save my pennys up👍😎
Vibes what vibes ?,go try a Harley shovelhead if you want your teeth rattling and your pillion all hot and sweaty😉. Myself i will wait until they come out with that srcam 450.
Ive got the Scram 411, but i couldn't get the 450 upright off sidestand very heavy, and also much taller, i could only touch ground on tiptoe, not on my next bike list.
The triumph speed 400 has significant vibrations at high speeds which make motorway riding unpleasant, but very few people have mentioned it. I’d take the himmy personally.👍.
I like the power of the bike ,and the barrenness of the bike no crap plastic on it the suspension is ok to good for our Australian dirt roads and we got plenty ,old jimmy WA
I know this an older vid, but remind people it's a single cylinder motor, there will be some vibs, If they want to forgo the advantageous character of a single buy a twin. Simple.
Where I live 90 kph is the maximum you will go with most of your time on the highway at 70 kph. If you need to go 130 you're looking at the wrong bike.
Great bike but not for me. I prefer the simplicity of an air cooled engine. Less to go wrong or break. The tank bars look like they provide great protection but lack the flexibility for additional storage due to shape, indicator position and protruding RE logo plate etc. I can't stand the TFT clock but this is just a personal preference for analogue dials. I think the old 411 will haunt this bike in much the same way that the old Classic 500 haunts the All New 'Plastic' 350. although with the 500, which is simply a far better machine on every level than the new 350 (vibration aside), the 411 will be down to personal preference. I would have much preferred it had they developed a big 600/650cc long stroke air cooled single but that's just me 🙂
Being honest, I do think the CF Moto 450 MT looks a better prospect than this, unfortunately. Rest Day Rider has just bought one and is waxing lyrical about it... Would love you know your thoughts :)
I would ride a motorcycle but when it rains I get wet. When its windy theres almost not protection and the noise!, the vibration! Its much more pleasant in my underground bunker.
For me its another generic bike and has lost the Royal Enfield DNA. Take the badges away and it could be anything, however it will draw its followers. I much prefer the agricultural feel and look of the original 411 which I've owned, with new ones still available I understand its still selling well. I too have heard issues around vibrations through the bars and pegs, rough running at low RPM and the dreaded stand, I struggled with it. I understand also there have been a couple of instances with broken frames. There is some serious competition out there that the Himalayan is going to have to compete with such as the much anticipated CF Moto which everyone seems to be raving about. Horses for courses I suppose and each to their own but it doesn't flick any of my switches and as a Royal Enfield fan I'll be sticking with my Classic 350 and Meteor 350. Fair review though.🙂👍
Kinda crazy people are complaining about vibrations on a 450 single. Uhhh yeah, it's a thumper. That's what they do!
People: *Get least balanced engine design, known for usually being the most* vibrating type
Engine: *vibrates*
People: 😮
@@leeinwis Sooo... It does vibrate innit?
They should try my BSA B44.
@@markalton2809🎉 Cracking bike
*Plough* 🎉
@@Plough78 Thanks Plough, it is a lot of fun on the road, you can feel every combustion stroke.
Someone once asked me how fast it goes, I said I think it goes faster than light, because I feel younger every time I get off it. 😂
I bought one a couple of months’ ago as my second bike. It is rapidly becoming my first bike. I thought I’d just be using it for errands about town and the occasional commute, but I am increasingly using it for longer distance rides. The Himalayan 452 is a cracking machine.
A himalayan 450 é boa para viagens longas? distâncias de 800 ou 1000 quilômetros em um único dia, Onde se tem que manter constantemente velocidade de 120km/H , 130 km/H
Yes check out big rock moto he loved it 💯
I’ve done the same and like yourself I’m finding the Himalayan comes out before the S1000 XR because it’s so much fun to ride 👍🏻
What’s your other bike?
@@Sanemancured Well, until a couple of weeks’ ago it was a Harley Davidson Ultra Limited but I’ve now sold that and will buy a new “main” bike in the New Year. Until then the Himalayan is now my only bike. I don’t ride all that much in the winter though, only when the roads are dry because I hate getting salt on my bike and am not a big fan of cleaning the things in cold weather. My wife never rides with me in the winter though (basically, because she’s sensible) so the Himalayan is more than enough for the next three months or so.
For my next main bike I’ve been thinking of a Goldwing. However, I recently tried a Voge 900 and was extremely impressed. It has just about all the features of the Goldwing but is more than £20K less expensive, so if I buy a Voge as my main touring bike I can easily justify getting a third bike as well! Fortunately I have a few weeks to debate this, so I’m sure I’ll change my mind many times before I finally decide which to get.
Ha ha that made me lol. "don't know about you but I expect a motorcycle to vibrate"
Nice one.
Reasonable review, Dave. Some vibration on a 450 single? Who would have thought? It's a single, folks... 😉 Having started riding singles back in 1958 - and no, that's not a typo - it's something that one gets used to; it confirms that one is riding a motorcycle, rather than astride a 'fridge - or one's ex!
My 2010 Bonnie has vibrations, thats why I like it! But unless you dont wear gloves or boots then it ain't a problem 😂
@@martynpearce4754 I run an '05 Moto Guzzi, so I can well understand what you're saying! Back in the '60's I used to ride a sprung-hub Thunderbird, which also vibrated quite a bit. 😁
Cracking comment Chris 😂
Trouble is what sort of vibrations! I wanted this single to feel a bit more like my 660 single, but felt just like the 125s and 250s of my youth unfortunately. .
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5:51 still ride my 2021 411 him tec cam 30k still love the bike, been all over Australia, rock solid,.
Hi from Australia I rode the Himalayan couple of weeks ago lovely bike, great pull, fantastic brakes. In fact I prefer the Himalayan to my Suzuki DRZ400E and Honda CRF300L, I've got my order in for my Himalayan with tubed tires. All I need next is a Classic 650cc twin and Shotgun 650 and my life will be complete also a scrambler
Why would you want a classic 650 and a shotgun 650. They are literally the same bikes.
Any person who rides a Himalayan 450 back to back against a Suzuki DRZ400, will want the Himalayan. That's because the Suzuki is a short stroke engine, with nearly no low end torque.
The 2024 Himalayan is the only single cylinder motorcycle made today with a super long stroke engine. Long stroke engines are SO much more fun at low speed, it's like having twice the torque off idle, and twice the throttle response.
For example, ride a DR350 from 1993, and it's FAR more enjoyable and feels MORE POWERFUL than a modern DRZ400, because the DR350 has a significantly longer stroke, and significantly more off idle torque.
Royal Enfield went against modern trends, and did the unspeakable, by making a super long stroke engine. Long stroke engines haven't been in style since the 1960's.
The 2nd Generation Hayabusa is a long stroke engine, which is why it's known for being such an enjoyable torquey bike to ride. The Honda Transalp 750 is a short stroke engine. Most all the new bikes are short stroke engines.
It's actually shocking that Royal Enfield didn't follow the standard trend of making an ultra short stroke, high revving engine. A short stroke engine would have had significantly less vibration at speed, but it would have been dog slow on technical trails, and would have been much harder for beginners to ride fast.
The new 450 engine has the following specifications: Bore and stroke is 84mm x 81.5 mm (3.307" x 3.208" inches).
For a general comparison:
Suzuki DRZ400: 90mm x 62.6mm (3.54" x 2.44" inches).
Suzuki DR350: 79.0 mm × 71.2 mm
Honda Transalp 750: 87.0mm x 63.5mm.
Aprillia Tuereg: 81 mm x 63.93 mm.
Suzuki DR650: 100.0 x 82.0mm.
Some great info there thank you 👍🏻
' and my life will be complete' ..... 'also a scrambler' 😂 let's face it, there's no 'complete'!
@@starseeddeluxe i've only ever ridden two bikes, a DRZ400S (my own! proud sixth owner in the EU) and a ninja 400, the driving school's bike. i was under the impression the DRZ has more low end torque, and would be a better choice for steep-ish off-road tracks? i keep hearing the Himalayan has 'no low end'? thought i'd ask you ask you're clearly knowledgeable! cheers
Leaning on the side stand always used to be a trait for off road types because it makes them easier to get onboard if you got little legs , something that i know a lot about as im only 5’6” and as a youth i loved my off road bikes
When people want a Himalayan to ride at motorway speeds then what they really want is a differnet bike. A morotcycle should make the rider aware there is an engine down there, and the vibrations are just there to let the rider know how hard the engine is working. The riding pleasure:- Sound, feel, and movement. Maybe the only smooth silent ride will be when all is electric but that will be no fun what-so-ever.
Agree 100 percent
I bought the touring screen. Frankly, it’s no better than the standard one. I’m waiting to see a third party screen which gives sensible protection, which I will certainly buy.
What a load of bollox. There is a mile of grey area inbetween a clanking, clattering, vibrating ride and a totally smooth, silent, sterilized ride. The only real question is where on that spectrum this bike lies. Excessive vibration is one of the least pleasurable motorcycling sensations. It's not something anybody who has ridden for any length of time looks forward to.
This motorcycle rides perfectly well at motorway speeds, I do a 180 mile trip regularly in one go, no stops at anywhere between 70 and 90 mph.
It’s all about expectations.
MAD TV here in Oz took one on a trip into the outback - said it was smooth as butter on the highway. No complaints about the level of vibes.
Thanks
Thank you Alan that’s very kind and much appreciated
I had a 2020 model and rode it to and from work for 3 years. Great little motorcycle. I traded in for interceptor 650 just for a change of pace. Miss taking it on the farm roads and dirt trails
Lesson from an old guy: Stop selling your old bikes. Build a small garage and collect them.
Get a used crf 250 rally, cheap tp maintain and capable.
A nice bike wouldn't knock it at all. However, I've gone with a Suzuki v-strom, bought it two weeks ago new from Appleyards Keighley couldn't have had a nicer experience. I've just managed to clock up just a nudge over two hundred miles on it and starting to get familiar with it, a lovely bike I have to say. The bike I've been riding for the past six years was a gl1800 so one heck of a difference , and to be expected. Appleyards did point this out on purchase but like you David, I'm at the stage in life where i have to be sensible and admit defeat as I'm the wrong side of seventy now.
Could praise Appleyards enough, great dealership.
You beat me though Rob my GL1800 went a few years ago back and I’m 61 😎
They aren’t comparable bikes.
Old trick for vibrations was to loosen all the attachment points of the engine and then retorque to spec. That usually took care of some of the vibs.. If you remember the ST/Pan was a VERY smooth motor...Good vid btw. 🇨🇦🇬🇧🇺🇸
Great review Dave; agree with all that you said.
I’ve got 10k on my 411 and Hera has done some really tough trails in and around the Yorkshire Dales and my engine bash plate has the dents, buckles and gouges to show.
I haven’t rode the 450 but looking at it in my dealers it just seems to nice a bike to subject it to the bedrock, stones, ruts and river crossings of the North York Moors and Yorkshire Dales.
Though I must admit a bit more powers on banks etc would be really nice, especially as I ride two up a lot too.
A cracking bike that seems to answer most peoples issues with the 411’s engine and front brake performance etc. Of course switchable ABS helps greatly off road too.
Nice one Dave; ride safe fella.
Cheers buddy you ride safe pal 👍🏻
Most of my beef is about the instrumentation + mobile integration, which will only be useful for a few years. I’d rather have an analog instrument that stays 100% useful forever, and put all the mobile integration into a replaceable nav device.
As a potential buyer this is very useful, thank you.
I bought one of the first 2025 Himalayan 450s in the US. Have not gotten a chance to go riding yet. I'm very excited to get going and one thing I wish factories would do is break in and first adjustments in house. I personally would give 5 to 10 % more for that on MSRP. When I get on a bike I want to get going without having to remember anything other than the way home. 😅
My bike is averaging over 75mpg ridden quite hard over 1000 miles - circa 280 mile tank range
That's better than my CRF , but I ride her like a 3 dollar whore..
Great review, nice to see the English Countryside, for me the Vibrations occur when on highway when one is travelling at consistent higher speeds, it wasn't a game changer for me ,just something noticeable primarily in the handlebars, I'm comming off the original after doing 44000km across 7 countries, I'm moving to Chennai next week and going to buy the new 450, intresting in relation to the side stand if you have opposite lock on the handlebars prior to mounting it, the bike naturally sits upright, I had no issues or struggle at 5 foot 8
Cheers
Noel
Thank you Noel yes good point there
Hey Dave, what a lovely second review on this bike….. much as I had a bit of a love affair with the 411. I definitely think this latest offering this morning in line with my desire for a big single with enough oomph to satisfy all types of riding comfortably.
Thank you for all the details and thoroughness in your reviews….
Cheers John much appreciated
Great review of a very interesting Bike. The Aussie off riding ace Adam Riemann takes one of these across the Himalayas, the bike literally laps up everything the trip throws at it, it's a four part film if you want to see literally what this bike os capable of, incredible scenery too!
Lovely to see that mill chimney still standing at 9 mins in !.
I doubt it would still be standing if Fred was still around .
My first and then a second 411 was a instant LIKE..👌.having tryed 450 I feel its in the GROWER👍 category...atb...
I wanted one. Ordered one just after the NEC 2023 ......tested the bike and was disappointed with the end product so much, so I cancelled it. I think the hype was better than the bike!
What didn’t you like about it? What sort of riding do you do and what you end up getting? Cheers
People complaining about the vibrations on a single are riding the wrong bike. Of course they vibrate. I have a Scram 411, it vibrates, i had a 2022 KLR, it vibrated, rode a WR 250R guess what, it vibrated. I would wager that the new Ducati 698 Mono even has some vibrations. I think some people comment about vibrations because thats what everybody else says or what they think is the right thing to say. Too many parrots on youtube. Good to hear someone with some common sense commenting that a single cylinder engine vibrates a little.
@8:20 The road on your left there would have been perfect for the Himalayan! No through road except motorcycles and cycles! You'll have to take your viewers along there some time 👍
Thanks for the fine review...thinking about this bike...I currently have a LC GS1200 as my touring bike, but also bought a 2021 BMW GS310 little over a year and a half ago...find myself riding the 310 almost 100% of the time...this Royal Enfield could be a replacement for the 310-if I try it and like it better!
I test rode this bike and bought a tubeless one in white. On the test ride (it was on 250 miles) there were initially some uncomfortable high pitched vibes through the foot-pegs on the local bypass , although by the end of the test ride (a very warm engine?) i didn’t notice them. It is not a deal breaker for me. Try the Keighley bypass wheeler so you can hold 70mph region. The vibes may just be a running in/cold engine issue, as i say though not sufficient to be a deal breaker for me its a cracking all rounder, plush suspension , great brakes, and very comfortable and importantly fun
I wanted to get the tubeless but I was under money restrictions along with availability issues in the US. Maybe someday I will upgrade if it becomes an issue. Good rolling brother!!!!
Made my decision. Classic 500 to add to my stable.Got a funny feeling I’ll ride daily👍🏴
I wonder if those footpeg pads had been removed when those riders experienced the vibrations. 🤔😎
Honda single cylinders don't vibe your fillings out..
@@leeinwis no... but I once owned a VT 500 Ascot that would buzz my hands into paralysis.
Who’d have guessed a single vibrated😉🤣they are a bargain and far more fun than the specs suggest, I’d have the Guerilla.
Wow Dave, this is spooky. I revisited the Himi 450 a couple of days ago (will be edited tonight), riding it harder on normal roads, and taking it on the motorway to try and find those vibes people are reporting. I had read/heard people talking about the distracting vibes through the bars, more so than the footpegs….🤔 When you watch my offering, you will see just how similar our take on things (even regarding comparisons) are, just worded slightly differently. Some people might think I have copied you, but honestly, it was a couple of days ago. We are away from my computer until this afternoon, hence why it wasn’t released before this one of yours 😉. I do ride it a bit more…..well, let’s say….”spirited”, and will have to pixelate the speedo in places 😂 Nice review again, all the best.
No worries Ian like conclusions are good for my sanity. I couldn’t get it to unduly vibrate at any speed. I did take it on the bypass to see how close the three figures but didn’t film it 😎
@@thebingleywheelerI didn’t quite get to 3 figures, but did film it, just blurred the speedo 😉 it didn’t vibrate up there either 😂
I had the 411. It was a great little bike. Never fancied the 450 so went back to a four cylinder rice burner. It doesn't vibrate at all.
I currently own the 411 and love it but have yet to try the 450. I too have seen the very mixed reviews, some like yourself, singing very highly of it and Nathan Millward, who I know personally and have a great deal of respect for, who is a little less impressed. ( that’s not me saying I don’t respect your views).
As you say, the differing thoughts on vibration does stand out.
It’s quite possible that there are differences between bikes, I have seen this in other models.
Another factor is how people ride, if a bike gets a bit of a shake on at the top of the rev range but the rider never winds it up there then there’s no problem.
The next guy/ girl/ walnut or whatever may thrash the ti*s of it so to them it’s got a vibration issue.
But possibly more significant is the differing sensitivity of people to vibration, some will ride a bike for an hour and have numb hands, others a 12 hour day an no issues whatsoever.
As I said, I’ve yet to try the 450 but for me my attachment to my 411 is probably more likely to stop me trading it in more than anything.
Keep up the good work mate.
Oh yeah, Crosstourer was another one that leant over so far it was a real tug to get it upright too.
You may well have a point about different bikes having different issues. I didn’t bat an eyelid at the vibes but then I do ride a Guzzi 😎
Great review, did you monitor the fuel consumption?
For what it's worth, I took delivery of my Himalayan 450 on 1st June, I have removed the rubber inserts on the riders footrests as I am not a fan of them and prefer the feel of the metal under my boots. It has to be said that I have not experienced any noticeable foot rest vibrations in the 265 miles that I have so far done. I owned a 411 before the 450 and the 411 vibrated more but it was not unpleasant. They are single cylinder motors after all so a little bit of mechanical harmony is expected.
Honda single cylinders don't vibe your fillings out..
Great points Barry
Great vlog Dave thanks. Regards, Mo 😊👍
The reason for the lean in side stand is so that shorter riders can easily hop on to the saddle and the use their right leg to force the entire bike to stand upright. 😁
I have heard this week, but there is two frames that have failed. Have you heard anything?
Not heard that
I'm wondering why some bikes have their headlight mounted solid and others the lights turn with the steering. Any ideas on this?
I was surprised by the side stand lean, and does feel heavy the first time getting on. This was testing in showroom on flat ground. I’m sure you would get used to it. But like with every bike do a sit test first.
I assume it vibrates quite a bit less than the Classic 350? I currently own the 350 but am looking to pick up the Himalayan when it's available here in the states.
Hi yes a bit more refined but still throaty 👍🏻
You don't want vibrations? Buy an electric. Good review.
The rear lamp appears to be missing 🎉
Integrated into indicators
@thebingleywheeler how BMWish!
My pals 411 used to vibrate through the pegs until it got to a thousand miles and he thought he got used to it but i had a go and we decided that the vibration is going as the miles go up
You forgot to mention the 400 Triumphs. Now to me the Enfield is far superior than the garage queen Triumph but then again at my age I'm possibly not its target audience. Great video on a great bike Dave.
Cheers Ian….i don’t much like the look of the triumphs
Totally agree… all bikes vibrate and so they should. Riding a bike is all about the sensory experience and engagement with it aa an engine and machine. It’s about ‘feel’ and ‘feedback’ from the bike to the rider. I want to feel and hear what the engine is doing. I did a one hour test ride on one a couple of weeks back and thought it was a great riding experience.
Yes spot on Duncan bikes need to vibe and especially singles
No, not all bikes. For some, vibrations are a sign of something wrong.. V4s for example have almost perfect first and secondary balance. Any hint of vibration on my ST1100 and it's time for a carb balance. Singles are a different story of course, but even there it depends on the design. The KTM390 Duke is very smooth for example.
At 25:50 he says new Himmy has quite a long stroke compared to other models. Well it doesn't compared to the old Himmy, it had a 86mm stroke vs the new one at only 81.5mm
First thing I would do with this bike is look for a proper windshield, second would be to replace that upper front fender to one more like on the original Himalayan. I dont like that enduro looking thing. Other than that, I would be happy with this bike. Currently, I have over 20,000 kms on my 2022 Himy. Other than just a little slow on open highways, I would keep it.
I agree completely about the windshield, but I like the upper fender. That lower fender is a disaster waiting to happen. And for a minimal cost, they could have just added better mirrors and a larger rack in the back. Also, the lower engine guards should have been standard.
I can’t understand why people complain about vibes in footrests . They are getting a free foot massage as an added bonus . I would be more concerned about ,unnecessary gubbins such as fly by wire throttle & quick shifter on what’s supposed to be an adventure bike . My choice if after a Himalayan would be a good used or pre registered 411 for a bargain price, it also looks better & the 25 hp is adequate for ,what I require on this type of motorcycle .
@@idontwantahandle12345 I know the 450 has a fly by wire throttle I mentioned that fact in my comment . It’s one of the reasons i am not a fan of the 450 & prefer the 411 Himalayan that has a proper throttle cable & less tech . Less tech is a big advantage on these types of bikes, the less to cause potential issues ,& leave the rider stranded miles from civilisation .
@@idontwantahandle12345 OK no problem 👍
I still didn't like the vibrations because they made it feel like a 125/250, my choice to change my order to Shotgun 650 (which has vibrations that don't make it feel like a small bike) was the right choice. Its vibrations are great and the engine is fantasticly characterful. Love it!
I took one out last week and rode it with the seat in the high position, Very comfortable until it got to 65mph on a dual carriageway, The vibration through the seat and into the rear of my butt was extremely uncomfortable , I will have another ride on a different demo bike just to see if it does the same. If it is then I might have to look at the CF Moto 450 as an alternative.
Just checked my subscriber status and showed not subscribed? Although I did. It seems a few RUclipsrs are experiencing this issue. As regards lifting bike of side stand try turning the bars fully clockwise first then lift bike up you will find it lifts up way easier 👍
Good fair review BW. I'm pleased to see you out for another spin once the engine has a few more hours on it. A few thoughts from me. Maybe the real competition for the RE could be one of the CFmoto 450 twins. The MT in particular could fit the small adventure bike role nicely and the 270 degree crank should be very smooth.
Appleyards sell both so Yorkshire folk will have the chance to rest ride both or even the NK version of the cf 450 - lucky sods!
450 mt review coming soon
Looking forward to that one Dave. It looks like a cracking bike and I just saw a picture of the new RE Guerilla. It looks interesting but I suspect we will see other bikes use that 450 single.
Thank you for the review. One remark about the side stand on trail bikes : my Himalayan 411 has a kit of suspensions and is 2 cm higher than normal as the 450. The stand being on the left side, it is much easier to lift it IF THE FRONT WHEEL POINTS FULLY TO THE RIGHT. I know that since my .. Yamaha 125 DTMX back in 1979 😉 Like the vibrations, those complaints repeted ALL the time on social medias exasperate me in the end! Like the 2 way to pronounce Himalayan is BORING my friends! STOP the epidemy please 😵💫 That bike is excellent, modern, not in the same segment of the market than the old one. A great bike to do everything. As a 2nd bike for the "lanes" and the today SLOW trafic, I choose the old one for the vintage air cooled 2 valves engine the make the 411 a proud member of the Bullet , Classic, Meteor or Hunter family ✌
I almost got the Suzuki DR650 . When I learned about the 450 Himalayan, I changed my mind very quickly. Still love and respect the DR 650, but it is more than I need, and I am using my purchase for a multipurpose investment. Maybe someday I will have a wonderful return on our investment
The CF 450 is the closest competitor on price, and seems to match the top spec one for the price of the base model, be good to compare the two.
Tbh Being an Indian, even I admit that the CFmoto is a substantially better proposition.
Great review!!! Agree with your comments including the footpeg vibe thing. I cut my teeth on old BSAs (250 and 650) if you really want to talk vibrations 😁I have no interest in offroad or motorways etc but I think this new Himalayan will make a fantastic road bike ...... on interesting roads like the ones in your review. I took a test ride a few weeks ago and thought the engine might be a disappointment ....... how wrong I was! That 450 single packs a wonderful punch even from low down and keeps on pulling ....... the engine even looks good, considering it's water cooled, and the gearbox is just as slick as my Hntr 350 ..... yet another marvel from Royal Enfield. All the best, Phil (Somerset)
Cheers Phil yes the engine is a really pleasant surprise and is perfectly mapped…..long bore heaven 😎👍🏻
Nice video Dave. Im due to ride one soon, ive read about the vibrations, the stand and also that its down on power? Did you think it was powerful or should i say that it felt like 40hp? Cheers for the video, Sean
Thank you Sean I’ll be interested to see your take on it when you ride. It feels like more than 40 bhp probably because of the very long stroke engine which makes for more low rev punch…..let me know what you think buddy 👍🏻
The long kickstand is helpful when parking in rough mountain terrain. ..you dont need to search for a flatter spot
All the vibration complaints that I've seen reported are @ high RPMs (near 8,000RPM area).
I think the cf moto 450 mt will take the Himalayans crown on price and fun factor
Yeah it looks funny alright !!!
CF is coming for the 450!
Wonders never cease, people complaining about vibration on a single cylinder motorcycle, clearly they have led a sheltered life. As for the Himalayan 450 , it's a good looking motorcycle that's well equipped and competitively priced, it will I am sure will appeal to those bikers looking for a mid weight adventure bike (used to be called a Trial Bike back in the day) the only negative for me is the particular bike you tested was painted in such a bland non descript colour , which really didn't do it any favours.
Does the fuel tank have baffels?
Nice review ,will you be reviewing the CF moto MT 450 anytime soon , as this appears to be the direct competitor to the RE Himalayan 450 !
Yes as soon as the demo arrives
im just not getting the 2 front splash guards, IMO it looks more like a scrambler hence the lean angle on the side stand but then they decided to stick the top splash guard on to give it an adventure bike look, might just be me being a northern monkey but if you had a choice between the Himalayan or a Triumph Scramble 400X which would you pick ?
Hmmm not the Triumph really
From what I've seen both bikes had aftermarket lower protection bars from a different manufacturer and they were either a bad fit or not torqued up correctly therefore the frame to engine flexed causing the frame to stress crack and fail.
Outstanding review. You are a stylish gentleman. What Bike Slacks are you wearing? Getting back into motorcycles, behind current knowledge. In addition to buying the 450. New apparel; helmet, boots, etc.? Any suggestions would be most welcomed. Cheers from the USA.
Hi I just searched for “retro motorcycle trousers” on eBay and found loads of options. Don’t skimp on the helmet…..Arai, Shoei, HJC or other premium brand….basically the best you can afford. Take a look at Falco boots 👍🏻
@@thebingleywheeler Thank you very much for your rapid response! I appreciate your wise suggestions. "Basically the best you can afford" is the simple truth.
Booked a test ride for Tuesday so ill find out for myself , itll make a real nice stable mate for my Interceptor !
I was considering the MT450 but as ive had a MotoMorini X-Cape languishing in the dealers since February and still can't bottom the issue im very reluctant to go down the chinese route again !
Lovely to see ya again. Yorkshire Henry Cole. Makes me nod off every time. But I get the gist after watching several times. Keeps the views up lol 😂
Would you recommend it for new riders?
Thank you.
Yes I would
I have paid for mine and should be picking it up tomorrow, just in time for the ABR festival but my insurer Bennetts don’t have an insurance price for it, If you have one, which insurance company did you use?
HEEEEELP
I use Bennett’s multi bike policy….just go through money supermarket and pick the cheapest 😊👍🏻
I ride a brand that vibrates A LOT, and I would welcome less vibration as the aging process progresses. Rust never sleeps🥴. Question: is there a slight throttle delay in the Himalayan fly-by-wire? My wife rides a 2008 Harley Road King with a throttle delay that is annoying. I was told it’s “normal” (that bike is for sale.) We had HD bikes on the PD, and I feel it is time to part ways after many years.
I didn't feel any delay at all when I test rode one, but there's no feeling of horsepower pull until 2000 revs. The old Himalayan had instant tractor pull at the extreme low end which I missed
I rode the original Himalayan & the bike stood far too upright for my liking & saw lots of comments saying the same. Maybe that's why they've changed it. I didn't like the seat on the original. I seemed to slope forwards & crush my nards against the tank! Does the new one do that too?
Something could be done about the side stand but the centre stand would have to be modified or removed.
Cracking review TBW, once little quirks like the vibrations through the pegs, are pointed out to then it can sometimes become a fixation too.
Unfortunately, you Sir are now guilty of the same, since you mentioned the screen, I can't get Darth Vader outta my head 🤣🤣🤣, Lovely bike though, thanks for the video.
Cheers Steve…The Vader Screen! 😎
Is the vibration something that will go away with more kms on the bike
@@idontwantahandle12345 Will you tell the truth when you find out ?
I had a tubeless on my GS but what is the Advantage of tubeless over tubed tyre?
Easier roadside puncture fix in tubeless
@@thebingleywheelerstrangely good explanation on Wiki….. never thought of punctures before.
referen vibrations i havent rode the 450 2 yet but i have rode 4ts and up to recent bikes some off the vibes wingers should ride some older bikes then they would know about vibes perhaps
Good Morning Dave , Thanks again for another review on the Himalayan 450 , tbh i think the cf moto 450 will do some damage to sales on the himi , take care & ride safe
The Australian himi 450 fb group has about 600 members, the CFMoto 450 group has 1600 members. I wonder if that reflects sales too
Cheers Steve CF Moto 450 coming soon
I think this bike could have a better weight management, but hey, that's just me. I heard they testing the himalayan 650 twins, maybe that will be smoother.
🇮🇹TYVM! Grazie!...
I don't like the integrated backlight system.
That bike would do me fine a big single a few vibes in its raw form wouldn’t bother me I’m a plant operator you ever operated an excavator full of rattles and vibration ,the price of the bike is value and this one has the power not like the old 411 I had ,I’d have to watch my licence with the 450 it’s got a bit of grunt on it I like it fine,great for the 500 and the hills in Scotland ,I’ll have to cut out a few thing and save my pennys up👍😎
Vibes what vibes ?,go try a Harley shovelhead if you want your teeth rattling and your pillion all hot and sweaty😉. Myself i will wait until they come out with that srcam 450.
Ive got the Scram 411, but i couldn't get the 450 upright off sidestand very heavy, and also much taller, i could only touch ground on tiptoe, not on my next bike list.
Is it as smooth as a Honda Goldwing? If not then I don't want it! /s
Might as well just drive car..
The triumph speed 400 has significant vibrations at high speeds which make motorway riding unpleasant, but very few people have mentioned it. I’d take the himmy personally.👍.
He dude review Apache 310 i wana buy one ❤love from Georgia
I like the power of the bike ,and the barrenness of the bike no crap plastic on it the suspension is ok to good for our Australian dirt roads and we got plenty ,old jimmy WA
The ABS is good on the bikes ,just think of the roads they have to ride on through out India and the mountain roads as well
The vibration is extra be this engine is a longer stroke than regular bikes to give better low end torque
That’s a great bike
I know this an older vid, but remind people it's a single cylinder motor, there will be some vibs, If they want to forgo the advantageous character of a single buy a twin. Simple.
When lifting any bike from it's left leaning side stand...first turn handlebars full right, then lift.
The lean is to ease getting on.
Completely disagree about the vibrations, above 90kmh in top through to 130 the vibes are intrusive.
Where I live 90 kph is the maximum you will go with most of your time on the highway at 70 kph. If you need to go 130 you're looking at the wrong bike.
There were some cases of the chasis breaking so i dont know about the reliability and its pretty heavy compared to my crf
Great bike but not for me. I prefer the simplicity of an air cooled engine. Less to go wrong or break. The tank bars look like they provide great protection but lack the flexibility for additional storage due to shape, indicator position and protruding RE logo plate etc. I can't stand the TFT clock but this is just a personal preference for analogue dials. I think the old 411 will haunt this bike in much the same way that the old Classic 500 haunts the All New 'Plastic' 350. although with the 500, which is simply a far better machine on every level than the new 350 (vibration aside), the 411 will be down to personal preference. I would have much preferred it had they developed a big 600/650cc long stroke air cooled single but that's just me 🙂
Being honest, I do think the CF Moto 450 MT looks a better prospect than this, unfortunately. Rest Day Rider has just bought one and is waxing lyrical about it... Would love you know your thoughts :)
Review coming soon 😎
I would ride a motorcycle but when it rains I get wet. When its windy theres almost not protection and the noise!, the vibration! Its much more pleasant in my underground bunker.
For me its another generic bike and has lost the Royal Enfield DNA. Take the badges away and it could be anything, however it will draw its followers. I much prefer the agricultural feel and look of the original 411 which I've owned, with new ones still available I understand its still selling well. I too have heard issues around vibrations through the bars and pegs, rough running at low RPM and the dreaded stand, I struggled with it. I understand also there have been a couple of instances with broken frames.
There is some serious competition out there that the Himalayan is going to have to compete with such as the much anticipated CF Moto which everyone seems to be raving about. Horses for courses I suppose and each to their own but it doesn't flick any of my switches and as a Royal Enfield fan I'll be sticking with my Classic 350 and Meteor 350. Fair review though.🙂👍
Great comment Jonathan