Well done for even hitting the target Vince, great shooting in the conditions. For me 12 flb rifles are great fun and capable at around 45M, any further is just a waste of time for me. If you’re a hunter, my opinion is that groups have no purpose in practice. Single shot practice and hitting within the kill zone every shot is what counts. My testing so far with different guns and many different pellets has proven to me that this is far more difficult than people think. At the moment there is a bit of a shoot at distance culture going on, as if you have to prove something. I know for a fact from testing that these shooters taking hunting shots at range are missing kill zones more than hitting them. Nobody is going to show us the scope cam playback of hitting a rabbit in the neck at range. If they conducted proper testing at range with their set up they would soon realise why they are missing kill zones. It’s a case of the one eyed man ruling the blind. Great video Vincent. All the best mate.
Just a quick mention it’s amazing the differences barrels can produce.. I’ve got a brk ghost .177 it shoots and only likes Zan slugs13g at 45 yds sub 12 clover leaf groups all day long in calm conditions… excellent vid by the way.
Really interesting experiment. As far as I can tell all Turkish gun barrels are choked. Have seen a sub-12 FX Impact and Panthera shoot consistently at 100 yards but, of course, they’re pricey. Well done again. Regard, Baz.
Valiant effort Vin. Shooting in the wind must be extremely challenging at 100m and with a sub 12 fpe. Today I had a heck of time staying on target at 50y with 30 and 45 fpe rifles with a mild variable left to right that would change without warning to a right to left🤦🏻♂️ It was a lucky day for the ground squirrels ☹️
Well it was worth a look weren't it..55m is about the limit I shoot targets and that's mostly for giggles, I put the target on a metal skillet so I can hear the impact, and yep I have to wait to hear it
since i recently found you its really got me wondering how good my 97 will be at 50yds plus. that spotter scope looks the business. perhaps a short explanation re scope would be nice without too much technical mish mash. keep them coming young man
Hi Vince! Thanks for doing the test. I did already expected that flat surface slugs without a rim won't even fly 100 meters with 12ft-lb. The resistance in the barrel is to much. I tried slugs with my 16ft-lb HW97 and they shot pretty wel on 25 meters but i had to push hard to get them into the breech. I also think that the breech seal is not optimal for slug use. Thanks buddy 👍
First shot was scary Ron, the slug literally spluttered out...the gun made a weird noise too like when you put your finger over a bicycle pump hole and try to pump it...😉👍👍👍
Well done vince what a day for you 😅but you achieved what you set out to do you could have stayed in the warm workshop and just bad mouth the other video which would have got us no where now we have all seen it with our own eyes and can make up our minds thanks Well done that was hard work but if no one else learnt anything i did 😊😊role on Friday. Alan
The impression I'm getting is yes it's possible to hit the lollipop at 100m but I'd need to edit out the 50+ misses which happened before. If someone could do a one take demonstration of setting up and hitting it with one shot that would be impressive.
Watched a review on the Reximex Myth a few days ago, which is like a clone of the Kral NP02, now I can't say if these two Turkish guns share the same barrels from the same factory but I did read in the comments that the barrel is heavily choked on the Myth, one guy commented his .177 was choked down to 3.85 mil? Even the reviewer said the Myth was heavily choked.
I just got an np02 on the strength of your video, I also have a hw 95k and Hw97k. I have just sent away for a seal kit for the np02 as I hear broken seals on the fill probe and around the gauge is an issue . Have you had any issues with the np02 yet ? Thanks vin 🙏
Vin I'm just 3:15 minutes in to this video and just have to ask what your opinion on running 'JSB, KnockOut, 1,645g, .22 Cal, Slugs' through your HW97K? My HW97K doesn't appear to like them that much and it loves 'RWS, Superdome, 0,94g, .22 Cal Field Line' What's your opinion on using heavy slugs in a HW97K? Might be a interesting topic for your next Video.
Yeah vin try just a normal diablo though they will loose stability in high winds at lower powers my jsb knockouts work well in my 95k .177 however u can only fire 6 slugs to about a dozen pellets as each slug takes the leading in offbthe barrel therefore accuracy loss so 12 to 20 pellets then x6 slugs good try though cheers vin 👍👍
hmmm yes 100 m shots even in no wind is a pretty tall order for a sub 12 gun your using it more like a mortar 🤣🤣🤣 but definitely a bit of fun mate . red wolf shoots slugs 10 gr zans but they are not to accurate think there is to much drag down the barrel for a sub 12 gun with more surface area touching the rifling so it don’t get enough speed up before it leaves the barrel
@vincentenglish8489 to be far..u did well even to hit the target with slugs in that wind....u need a top end rifle to hit consistent groups at 100 yards..without wind..
Kral barrels are a copy of HW,s im sure try the jsb knockouts sorry not sure what calibre your np02 is thanks for the video if it is choked and a .22 try a .216 slug cheers vin
Cheers Lee, to be honest I think I'll leave the slugs for the FAC rated guns. This little Kral didn't like the slugs I tried one bit. However I'd like to try this again on a calm day just not with slugs 👍👍👍
Well done for even hitting the target Vince, great shooting in the conditions. For me 12 flb rifles are great fun and capable at around 45M, any further is just a waste of time for me. If you’re a hunter, my opinion is that groups have no purpose in practice. Single shot practice and hitting within the kill zone every shot is what counts. My testing so far with different guns and many different pellets has proven to me that this is far more difficult than people think. At the moment there is a bit of a shoot at distance culture going on, as if you have to prove something. I know for a fact from testing that these shooters taking hunting shots at range are missing kill zones more than hitting them. Nobody is going to show us the scope cam playback of hitting a rabbit in the neck at range. If they conducted proper testing at range with their set up they would soon realise why they are missing kill zones. It’s a case of the one eyed man ruling the blind.
Great video Vincent. All the best mate.
Just a quick mention it’s amazing the differences barrels can produce.. I’ve got a brk ghost .177 it shoots and only likes Zan slugs13g at 45 yds sub 12 clover leaf groups all day long in calm conditions… excellent vid by the way.
Really interesting experiment. As far as I can tell all Turkish gun barrels are choked. Have seen a sub-12 FX Impact and Panthera shoot consistently at 100 yards but, of course, they’re pricey. Well done again. Regard, Baz.
Very interesting video Vin. I know 100m is beyond my skills with the air guns i have but someday I'm going to try it anyway.
Fair play Vincent, think I may well have a go at 100m at the weekend if I can pinch a big sheet of cardboard from work…. Another great video, thanks 👍
Valiant effort Vin. Shooting in the wind must be extremely challenging at 100m and with a sub 12 fpe. Today I had a heck of time staying on target at 50y with 30 and 45 fpe rifles with a mild variable left to right that would change without warning to a right to left🤦🏻♂️ It was a lucky day for the ground squirrels ☹️
Well it was worth a look weren't it..55m is about the limit I shoot targets and that's mostly for giggles, I put the target on a metal skillet so I can hear the impact, and yep I have to wait to hear it
since i recently found you its really got me wondering how good my 97 will be at 50yds plus.
that spotter scope looks the business. perhaps a short explanation re scope would be nice without too much technical mish mash. keep them coming young man
50m for the 97 is well within it's capabilities
Hi Vince! Thanks for doing the test. I did already expected that flat surface slugs without a rim won't even fly 100 meters with 12ft-lb. The resistance in the barrel is to much. I tried slugs with my 16ft-lb HW97 and they shot pretty wel on 25 meters but i had to push hard to get them into the breech. I also think that the breech seal is not optimal for slug use. Thanks buddy 👍
First shot was scary Ron, the slug literally spluttered out...the gun made a weird noise too like when you put your finger over a bicycle pump hole and try to pump it...😉👍👍👍
@@vincentenglish8489 I guess air leaking because the rifle could not get quick rid off the pressure.
@@rapalaron6348 my thoughts too buddy, checked seals etc, held pressure but I didn't want to fire anymore through it...👍
Well done vince what a day for you 😅but you achieved what you set out to do you could have stayed in the warm workshop and just bad mouth the other video which would have got us no where now we have all seen it with our own eyes and can make up our minds thanks Well done that was hard work but if no one else learnt anything i did 😊😊role on Friday. Alan
I’ve seen other videos having problems with 12ft lbs with slugs , they used pellet lube and it helped straight away
The impression I'm getting is yes it's possible to hit the lollipop at 100m but I'd need to edit out the 50+ misses which happened before. If someone could do a one take demonstration of setting up and hitting it with one shot that would be impressive.
Well done hitting that in that wind!
Watched a review on the Reximex Myth a few days ago, which is like a clone of the Kral NP02, now I can't say if these two Turkish guns share the same barrels from the same factory but I did read in the comments that the barrel is heavily choked on the Myth, one guy commented his .177 was choked down to 3.85 mil? Even the reviewer said the Myth was heavily choked.
I just got an np02 on the strength of your video, I also have a hw 95k and Hw97k. I have just sent away for a seal kit for the np02 as I hear broken seals on the fill probe and around the gauge is an issue . Have you had any issues with the np02 yet ? Thanks vin 🙏
Absolutely no issues whatsoever... truthfully its been a good solid little rifle 👍👍👍
Great video Vince.
Vin I'm just 3:15 minutes in to this video and just have to ask what your opinion on running 'JSB, KnockOut, 1,645g, .22 Cal, Slugs' through your HW97K? My HW97K doesn't appear to like them that much and it loves 'RWS, Superdome, 0,94g, .22 Cal Field Line'
What's your opinion on using heavy slugs in a HW97K? Might be a interesting topic for your next Video.
Hi buddy, in all honesty I've much success using slugs in a sub 12fpe springer. Nearly all my HW rifles do like the RWS Superdomes though 👍👍👍👍
Brilliant video
Bit windy for that game mate😉
Yeah vin try just a normal diablo though they will loose stability in high winds at lower powers my jsb knockouts work well in my 95k .177 however u can only fire 6 slugs to about a dozen pellets as each slug takes the leading in offbthe barrel therefore accuracy loss so 12 to 20 pellets then x6 slugs good try though cheers vin 👍👍
Ive got plenty of different .177 slugs if you want to try some other brands and weights
Well done Vincent 👍
What weight pellets were you using?
I'll have to check tomorrow buddy...👍
hmmm yes 100 m shots even in no wind is a pretty tall order for a sub 12 gun your using it more like a mortar 🤣🤣🤣 but definitely a bit of fun mate . red wolf shoots slugs 10 gr zans but they are not to accurate think there is to much drag down the barrel for a sub 12 gun with more surface area touching the rifling so it don’t get enough speed up before it leaves the barrel
Yeah could be Paul, those pro hunter were 17.8gr if I remember rightly...
Even anna orkly could.nt hit a thing with slugs in a Turkish barrel...😂
Very true indeed mate 👍👍👍
@vincentenglish8489 to be far..u did well even to hit the target with slugs in that wind....u need a top end rifle to hit consistent groups at 100 yards..without wind..
@@roberthowe2910 I shot the target with pellets, the slugs spluttered erratically out of the barrel
@@vincentenglish8489 👍
Kral barrels are a copy of HW,s im sure try the jsb knockouts sorry not sure what calibre your np02 is thanks for the video if it is choked and a .22 try a .216 slug cheers vin
Cheers Lee, to be honest I think I'll leave the slugs for the FAC rated guns. This little Kral didn't like the slugs I tried one bit. However I'd like to try this again on a calm day just not with slugs 👍👍👍
Use JSB exacts, can’t go wrong with them.
This little Kral hates JSBs, shoots H&N FTT quite nicely though 👍👍👍👍
@@vincentenglish8489 my np02 loves them, different barrels suit different pellets, the Chinese QYS pellets are very good aswell.