How to Restore Old Tools - Rust and Paint Removal, Without Chemicals
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Let's bust some rust! In this video i'm going to show you how to remove rust and old layers of paint using wire wheels and surface conditioning discs. Ill show you some techniques that will help your consumables last longer and share some products that will be helpful along the way.
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Congratulations on your win on Assembly Required. You looked like a clear winner right from the start with the carb,
Yes it was a great win
I totally agree, I love restoring old tools and equipment! Just very enjoyable for me and satisfying! Great vid!
Nice video Chris. I know you were wearing a respirator, but maybe emphasize that the paint on old vises and equipment was lead-based and a major health hazard when mechanically stripping them. A chemical stripper in the case of lead-based paint can be much safer all around (no dust during or after). Thanks for discussing in the depth the loose vs knotted wire wheels and the running RPMs!! That's always important to emphasize, especially with people new to using them. Those pferd discs look great! Definitely going to be buying some! Thanks again!
I would like to see a paint removal video with the same methods.
A metal gate is my current struggle.
Love your variable grinders, great vid...
Great advices and very helpful video, with also great editing 👏👏👏
God bless you man been looking for a video that could show how to remove rust an effective way for my lx 470 rust frame thank you so much
Soak the vise in simple green concentrate in a bucket for couple days to a week. Longer in colder weather. The paint and rust will just fall of like skin on a burn victim. Rinse it off and it’s gonna be virgin cast iron to oil or paint. Done this many many times. Try it you will be shocked. I also clean up the handle and jaws on a fiber wheel on bench grinder it removes the staining wire wheel cannot remove. I’ve restored well over 100 vises it works give it a try
Lmao like skin on a burn victim. That's a morbid analogy, but great tip! Simple green isn't the cheapest stuff ever, but damn I love it for just about everything. It's magic.
@Blob B no
Excuse my ignorance, but what’s ’green concentrate’? Is it a north American product?
@gregwilliams7227 "Simple Green" is a heavy duty cleaner. You can buy it in concentrated form or ready to use. I'm not sure if it is shipped outside of the USA.
@@mikerobinson6606 Much appreciated, I haven’t come across it here in Australia, but that may just mean that I haven’t been looking in the right places…
Congrats on your Win on "Assembly Required"
I loved this video because having not really used a grinder until this weekend I've decided it as scary a tool as a circular saw. The way the edges grab it...yikes
I'm restoring a trailer and need to get rust and paint out of the corners of angle iron. What's the best primer to use?
Great informative video! Can you do a video on respirators? Thanks
Yes definitely! Respiratory health is so important in the shop
Those are good comparisons. Thank you.
Chris great video this week. Very nicely and helpful video. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Cant want to see your next videos. Keep Making. Fab On. God Bless.
By the presence of that 'nade in the background, I'm guessing you have a difficult mouse or rat problem in your shop.
My condolences.
Hands down the best demonstration I have seen on these attachments on RUclips, great job on this video! I am looking into particular PPE to use with this setup and use of wire wheels and polishers...
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How can you remove seized rust from screws nuts bolts etc,without chemicals. Thanks so much. ❤️👏🏻
If this isn’t the best advertisement for a small abrasive cabinet, I don’t know what is. Yes, they take up plenty of room and demand a healthy air supply, but a couple sessions trying to get rust out of relief letters on a vise casting proves their worth. Save your pennies…
Nice, water dustless vapor honing do polishing
I have a milwaukee corded grinder and I use wire wheels from HF and they start to wear down the brushed become porcipines. I usually average one of those wire wheels per project. Pulling out the needs out of my clothing days after is annoying. What brand wire wheels you recommend?
3M Scotch-Brite? 4.5" Bristle Discs
😊 unless you have a wide beam lazer
Amazing video! Thank you so much. So basically I can remove rust with my drill and not buy a grinder? (I need to remove rust/paint off my wrought iron fence).
Great Video Bro with loads of great info......👍👍👍
Thanks for watching bud!
Dammit. Looks like i need to add a third Milwaukee angle grinder to my collection. I've got the small 7 amp beast 13amp but neither are variable. And i can't tell you how many times ive needed them to be variable.
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Saw you on TV this week in "Assembly Required". Good job, your skills are awesome! Are you going to post something about it?
Where did you get that tool holder for your die grinder??
Great job 👌👍
Whats the difference between a poly wheel lime you where using and a flap disk?
A poly wheel isn’t going to taking off material the way a flap disk will. There a slight removal of material because you are abrading it in some way, but it’s barely anything. They are definitely worth trying out!
@@MakeEverything thank you sir, I appreciate the response. And thank you for the great content!
When your actively grinding you are wearing ppe. However when your not grinding how do you manage hazardous dust? steel, aluminum, silicon carbide etc. Aswell as all of the nasty stuff that are in most grinder abrasives
I try to keep airflow moving in my shop at all times. Right above that workbench is a fan that blows air outside the window and it helps a lot with floating dust. I also have a few air cleaners running in the shop all the time to filter the particles floating around in space. I used hepa vacuums to clean the shop as well. It’s not easy but it’s worth it for some safety!
Very useful thank you,
Great video. What would you recomend i use to strip a wroght iron gate ?
Love it. How many minutes per Ah are you averaging with that right angle M12 die grinder?
I may pick one up with a couple of 6.0 batteries.
I don't own a power respirator suit and knowing those old Vises were painted primarily with Lead-Based paint back in the day, I just use paint stripper and power washer.
Thanks a lot for a very informative video. Been looking for this subject for a long time. Your a godsend.👍🤗⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Tips I will actually use - I spend a lot of time knocking of rust. I have also abandoned electrolysis.
I like having a fan about 5 feet behind me and over my shoulder, so air goes past me and keeps the dust from blowing up at me. If taking off paint, bodyshop friends recommended having an exhaust fan either right above or behind and/or below work area. Nothing worse than having dust blown around with an air hose if stuff is getting painted nearby... (or stained, sealed, finish coated, etc)
Better yet would be to use a dust collection system with a wide scoop that an be positioned near your work. Not a great idea to have all that crap being blown around inside your shop.
@@LBCAndrew Absolutely! I think I meant to say (or presume) that an exhaust system is already present (video was some time ago) but to have positive, intake pressure, air coming from behind the person.
I get my tools used and a vari speed grinder is a rare bird . Have you used any speed controllers?
hi what kind of respiratory mask do you use from the rust and paint in the air?
I wear a 3m with a particulate filter on it, I like the 2297 advanced filters.
It's easy to clean oxidized steel it's literally a thin layer of surface rust let's show how to clean actual rust that is caked on
what to use if u want to get rid of the paint/rust from small metal pieces - for example "window" decoration / closing system etc? thanks!
I dont think I’d buy a dye grinder specially for that, but can’t I use my drill?
Yes you can, they run much slower, but they’ll do a lot of what those little die grinders can do when your just removing paint or using a wire wheel or brish
Bearing in your drill isn't designed for side loads
GRENADE!
Great video as always.
you should make a video of your EDC
If I have a die grinder with no adjustment for speed, could I not lower the regulator pressure? And control the air that way?
Pretty impressive! I don’t have a grinder but do have a dremel.
Can I use a grinder versus a sander for wood restoration ( with extreme care) ?
Using an angle grinder on wood is pretty much going to end in disaster. Grinders have pure rotary motion and very high RPM. Sanders are either dual-action or Random-Orbital which doesn't leave circular marks all over your work and they don't gouge things if you slightly tilt them.
I do a lot of woodworking and have found, depending on the project size and type of wood, sanders will work well for larger flat surfaces but stay away from the corners/edges since they tend to round them over. For smaller stuff, i recently started using a card scraper. check out some videos on them.
A dremel is good for certain things, but not for sanding
How would all this apply to aluminum parts?
Sae principles apply but be careful with aluminum as these wheels can burn into aluminum and leave weird marks
@@MakeEverything Exactly my concern. I've spent hours and hours carefully sanding paint off of an aluminum wheel and I would have loved to be able to use a power tool.
Would brass wire wheel be OK?
From my experience it's easier to remove rust from cast steel rather than tubing or something similar....
What about for thinner metal like restoring toolboxes and such?
I love the vise restoration videos!
More coming soon!!!
Now I need a variable speed grinder.
v.good vid. at 1;15 is that a decomissioned andgrenade don,t be offended for me asking all the best , jack .
Thanks! It’s actually a motorcycle rotor lock, just looks like a grenade
Question: I want to restore and repaint my drill press (KTF-13 from the 80s and stands about 4ft tall). would this method be good for the table and other parts that need to be cleand and polioshed? Yes I'm new and looking for solid advise before spendin $ on things that I don't need.
Man, you gotta stop moving your hands, at warp speed, especially during close up shots! I was getting seasick......
I like electrolysis. Cleans majority of the rust, then less wire wheeling. Less breathing the rust. Left with some rusty water, mixed with baking soda.
What do you recommend for removing powder coat from Aluminum railings? How do you like that Milwaukee die grinder?
The poli clean disc’s are great for removing mill scale. The scale also comes off easier before heat is applied to the material.
How much grinding can you get out of the poli discs compared to zirconium ones? I see the poli's can be ~£10 per disc
Google electrolysis. Much easier.
Strips the metal damn near like I came with no marring Mark's or material lost. Electrolysis will take off all that rust and gunk.
May i know which brush should i be using when removing paint from aluminium? Appreciate ur reply
I'm now restoring an old Woden vice whilst watching this video. I think I have a problem.
Folks with long hair, watch your hair as well! I’d hope it goes without saying, but stay safe
Can anyone explain the sound at around 2:00 when he puts the grinder on low rpm? That strange (for me at least) sound coming from the grinder.
For rust if you went to elemental makers channel and saw his evaporust knock off that's definitely the play if you have time but almost not effort and it's time you can do other things
Which one of these tools would be good for me to route remove rust underneath my 2005 Toyota forerunner so I can spray some rust protection on it?
Great video. How does using these products with a die Grinder compare to similar products used in a brushless cordless drill or impact driver?
Compensate the lower rpm with more elbow grease
Would these methods be overkill for a rusty wrought iron fence with old paint, thanks in advance!
Thanksyourvidwashreatt
Do a 7" polisher with variable speed does the job?
They are usually much slower but for fine work they can do the job. Your not going to be grinding tons of steel with them but wire wheel and pain stripper would probably work great
Caught my shirt with a grinder+wire wheel once. Scared the crap out of me. 😅
I used an ultrasonic bath on a smaller tool once. it took about 2 days, not sure what the electric cost was but just got the paint off and didn't touch the metal (from what I can tell). Not an expert on paint, so I don't know what kind of paint it was, but it mostly came off in once piece, which was really neat. Usless as is so weak but still neat.
As always I learned some great stuff , that i will use .Thanks Chris......
Nice! 👍😀
take the backing plate off your grinder while your using the wire wheel.. it will sit further down and the guard will do its job. Plus it will have better thread engagement, so if your grinder has a fancy brake, it wont spin off on its own.
anyone know the best way to get in small corners? like metal windows?
Excellent video bro,
thanks for upload.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Subscribed
Sandblasting would be faster and more effective
Great video! One question: Once the paint/rust are removed, which can sometimes create a "polished" effect. What do you do to create a "profile" or "tooth" on the steel to have paint adhere well-if you are going to paint? What type of disc and grit? Thanks in advance
use red oxide primer first before paint
@@elmoflippingchannel1070 i use red oxide or kem kromik primer, thanks!
10:42 oops!
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@@MakeEverything still an informative vid! thanks!
Very straight-forward information. Thank you!
Thank you for your video! Very informative .
Wait is that a grenade in the back? 😂
Just in case
@@MakeEverything you sir got yourself a subscriber!
That's his biggest hammer lol
excellent job..Thank you.
What do you do for mill scale ?
Thank you for this video! I meant to use zero voc paint on the floor of my car but accidental grabbed the wrong one and used it without realizing. My car now is off gassing badly and I have MS so I can't tolerate breathing neurotoxin fumes, even a little bit. I can't risk it. So I've been trying to figure out how to remove that paint without using chemicals that could leave their own noxious odor. This video is a life saver.
I am wondering if it can be done with water to keep the dust down?
Try Peel Away. It's a paste and you cover it with a cloth then just lift up the old paint.
What advice can u give with small items with wire wheel grinder without getting hurt
Use a bench mounted wire wheel for small items. Check my new video about wire wheels on my channel!
Great video. What do you use to remove mill scale?
Thank you for this. Like all your other videos, this one is filled with valuable gems that can only be learned from a skilled craftsman that has decades of experience.
The best tutorial..👍
nice tutorial bro.
Thanks 💐
Thanks 💐
Excellent video
good tip thanks
Great job man
Absolutely love the Milwaukee M12 angled die grinder, it's one of the best tools I've ever purchased.
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Nice, I’m close to buying that Milwaukee die grinder, if only you had a few sponsorship coupon codes to give out....
It’s a great tool! I definitely don’t! I have never gotten a single Milwaukee tool from them. I’ve bought all that stuff with my own money! Worth every penny
Milwaukee tools are really over priced just one step down to fest tools. Paying more than twice does not give you twice the performance or quality, its more like A "Status " power tools syndrome.