Comic Book AI Witch Hunt Claims Innocent Victim?
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- Comic book fans and professionals alike are trying to keep AI art out of the industry. But it appears a full-on witch hunt has started and people are being tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. The latest example is DC Comics pulling 3 covers from Chinese artist Auston Guo, better known as Daxiong. Internet sleuths ran the covers through an AI detector that flagged the art as over 99% sure generative AI. But Daxiong claims he created the art by hand. Wes explains why DC Comics pulling 3 covers from Auston Guo is a rush to judgement and destroying his reputation without ay real evidence. Comic book AI witch hunt claims innocent victim?
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AI detectors are not reliable. I just uploaded a AI piece I generated and it came back saying it's 23% probability that it was AI. I then uploaded a sketch I made with pencil in my sketchbook and it said 59.5% probability that it is AI.
Technology has made us less human
Damn straight
you have no idea.
Remember when arched eyebrows when Marvel bought Malibu primarily for the computerized colouring? Or the issues with "Comic style fonts"? To late to close Pandora's Box.
The thing is: AI only creates images by compiling art styles that are fed to it. Daxiong's art only looks like AI because AI's images use him as a base. What a crazy time we live in.
I don't know about Daxiong's art, but I do know they fed the AI Artgerm and Sakimichan's art. So Artgerm gets a false positive.
Looks like Artgerm influence.
Or he trained AI on his own images? The composition on all 3 images is standard AI garbage and not something he usually does. Not mention all the blending in in all images.
@@emitizmo7456 Possible. I don't know how many images of your own work you need to make a convincing facsimile. Plain white background? Maybe DC didn't pay enough for a fully rendered cover and so they just got the figure.
I saw the sketches for those covers, I feel sorry for the artist. That Batman artist was obviously computer aided.
Maybe they should have the interior artist also do the covers. Crazy suggestion, I know, but that might also incentivize them to use more talented artists on interiors. That way, they can have the pretty cover without it being a bait and switch.
Or have a cover artist read the script and then make a cover based on what's happening inside the book? Remember when that was a thing? Pinups are nice, but I can just find a relatively high res version of it online and click download.
Remember when that used to be the norm? Without a bunch of a stupid variant gimmick covers per issue.
I don’t know if it’s AI generated. But I happen to know that AI detectors are not very accurate.
Yup, they give a lot of false positives, they are only being used to harass people now.
The problem is digital art. My daughter is an actual artist with a degree in illustration. Her biggest pet peeve is that anyone can use digital tools to make art and refuses to use programs like photoshop etc. She is an old school purist that believes art is pen, pencil, paint, paper, canvas.
Raised her right then. Thank you. I'm fine with digital coloring but I only like pen and paper art. Technology has made us less human
I disagree. Even using non-AI digital tools, you still have to know to draw, and you're still required to use a stylus or electronic pen.
@@rocketraccoon1976 It's much more forgiving and images can be imported and changed to appear drawn. My daughter explained all of it to me. She knows how to use digital tools because she was required to while getting her degree.
The rich n famous won't want the mass A.I. art made for just us plebs. They are going to pay a high price for human made art. I can see human artists making video diaries as proof of authenticity. How are they going to compete or prove otherwise?
@O_G_HELLBOY What she’s right about is you still need to know how to draw, but with that said digital is amazing, if used correctly it streamlines the process. The downside is you have to find an alternative to selling original art.
artist will have to make sure to have layer files and real thumbnails, just like in math class in jr high you're going to have to show your work.
When the Math Teacher's Wisdom finally has relevance.
In the Battle of Humanity.
It would be entertaining to see what these AI detectors think of Joseph Michael Linsner, Charles Vess, Dave McKean, and Joe Benitez.
Until the government decides if using copyrighted work without permission to train AI is legal or against copyright law, issues like this will continue to arise. One of the solutions copyright holders want is when an AI image is produced it comes with a "ingredients list" of whose art was used to produce the image. That would solve problems like this.
Unless it uses Billions of Images scared from the net. Especially from Fanart aggregator Sites like Zerochan and Danbooru.
Many AI artist have figured out how to Mimic an Established Artist Art style by effectively deconstructing their Art style into its "Ingredients" of Art style Movements.
Than Use those Ingredients to make AI art very similar to that Artist without Invoking their name.
@@arnowisp6244 "AI artist" That's funny. So people trying to find ways to use a machine to copy another person's art because they can not do it themselves, you have called an artist. Those people are small potatoes, the AI companies are the ones who should be punished and have huge fines levied against them if the courts rule in the copyright holders' favor.
Liam Sharp was doing digitally painted on his creator owned series Starhenge and his Captain Stone works.
If they cant show their work its ai
That AI art looks pretty great tbh.
no it doesn't.
Look at enough AI art and it all becomes samey and worthless.
@@ComicsForLife2023 Nah. It does. I prefer hand drawer stuff too, but the art in the thumbnail looks great.
The comic book industry's default state is "witch hunt".
One has to consider that we are illuatrators in the industry, not artists. As illustrators we might have a kind of "approach", but we don't have a style. We have to be able to adapt to required design and style approaches for the products we are hired for, as well as use the tools we are asked to be used. This is a fundamental requirement in the profession.
Clayton Crane probably had one of the most dramatic changes in art styles that I can think of.
Great vid, and loved your interview with Kneon
Much appreciated!
Once the wrinkles are ironed out with AI art, I can definitely see Marvel and DC deciding on a "house style" and program the AI to draw in that style and produce the books that way.
Thanks for covering this Wes. Not quite the same but folks complaining about AI art sound a lot like folks who were complaining about CGI art in the late 90s. I think the big issue is folks trying to pass AI generated material off as non-ai work.
Crazy thing is although my style easily predates ai art, if you didn’t know better you would think it was ai affiliated.
It's because the AI was trained on so many Similar styles. So it would eventually mimic those.
I preordered the covers and now i'm stuck with some sucky covers that replaced them
It would be interesting to run a large selection of artwork -- had-drawn, painted, and digital -- through a number of AI detectors and see what the results were. That would give a clearer indication of how reliable the detectors are. I suspect that they would produce a significant number of false positives.
Liam Sharp did the old Spawn Dark Ages series and will be doing a new run of it too. With that he did painted covers that looked different than the interior art. Using a combo of traditional and digital art with some photo textures to I believe. Needless to say this was decades before Ai art. The accusations are getting out of hand. I think in the long run artists will use it as a tool that is customized to be trade on the own style, that they will use to make layout roughs to get approved on before creating the final piece themselves. I think the main problem people have is the systems have been trained on artists work without their permission.
I put a lot of trust in Jose for holding publishers accountable for putting out subpar art restorations. But I don’t have a stake in what’s AI or not, because artwork doesn’t have the same inherent uncanniness detector as images pretending to be real photographs.
There’s certain styles that have that AI look… but that’s only because real people have previously crafted that style. We need methods of detection with more proof; like how plagiarism in writing is irrefutable
These covers look good. I'd be happy with the result
I belive he traced an ai generated image, he has an old image "made by him" on his Facebook, but it has the additional detail and strange hands typical of ai, so he is definitely familiar with the AI tool
Weather or not he used it they just proved it does matter if you try to show your work they will steal say you just traced it. The pencils have extra lines that seem to show them working out the figure, like the leg placement. The ai detectors clearly shouldn’t be used as the end all be all proof that a piece is.
Drawing with different software can give you different outcomes because digital software is limited in certain things so using an iPad versus Wacom tablet and Windows will give you different results. Every digitizer is different so the Apple pencil is different from other stylus pens and so on. But if you draw using a Digital drawing device it will look like AI since you can touch it up endlessly unlike on paper.
By next year, I predict one of the major companies will try to sell a fully AI generated comic story or series. And I mean writing and art.
Yeah I agree with its hard to tell exactly. But ultimately I do think DC should of decided on there own rules on how they want to deal with A.I. art instead of just reacting to the mob because they probably wont look into Daxiong and whether or not the art was A.I. There just gonna wash there hands of the situation because its not worth looking or being "pro A.I." in anyway which I think is more harmful in the long run then if Daxiong did use A.I. because that might be used against other artist fairly or unfairly. Like the guy who did the call out post says "how to ruin your career in 5 secs " only happens because people with half baked evidence are listen instead of a proper investigate being conducted.
And the purity spiral starts.
I think that if you train ML to detect AI art by having it learn on a dataset of real art and AI art, you will get false positives if AI art has your art in its dataset.
It might also detect stuff like tracing, stroke stabilization and mirroring parts of the image as marks that are too accurate/smooth/symmetrical to be made by a human.
You can train ML badly by using the wrong dataset, or having the wrong parameters, or having incorrect thresholds on the parameters.
I believe he may have used AI in some parts (just the way you can use it inside Photoshop with Firefly and Krita which have integrated generative AI inside their software), as in coloring to help speed up the process, especially if he had a tight deadline because his line work is very complex. Even so, it's his style, and it was made digitally also because you can polish it more. Once AI art becomes indistinguishable from digital art, there may be a shift in certain art niches to go after physical original pieces, just like the ones he already has.
This is a shame if it was not AI.
It is difficult. Personally, I believe that he might have used it on his own lineart. Did the first lineart, used the AI to make a colored rendering, and after did the retouches. BUT. like yourself, I can't be 100% sure.
As far as Alex Ross’ Fantastic Four - Full Circle art the little I’ve seen looks like Ross did some parts of panels in his usual painting style but then made some of a given panel traditional pen and ink.
As for the three examples of supposed AI art, I’d say that the Power Girl looks to me of either AI art or else DC’s usual $#!+ty editorial wither consume being a cape instead of the newer jacket (which, FWIW I think looks terrible and going to a look like the cover in question would be an improvement.
Making your own AI generated comic books featuring your favorite characters rather than buying the latest woke trash from Marvel or DC sounds like a wise decision to me.
that artist made an error in judgment if this is accurate. you should only use that for reasons where you need to visually see a idea your trying to work on. Gab said something to me awhile back.. the genie is Out the bag w A.I and we are not gonna be able to put it back in the bottle so it's wise to use this in a way where it's honorable.
If those covers are A.I. art then I hope the A.I. vastly improves so it can do good interior pages based on scripts.
Might mean we can get some decent interior art again on all books unlike having half of the books out there being subpar work because they don't want to pay more and the crazy boys & girls club wants to maintain their stranglehold on DC & Marvel.
What happened is he painted over AI images then did fake sketches after being called out.
Unfortunately those "sketches" do look traced after the fact. Really rough sketches existing either on paper or digital form would help his case.
I follow him on instagram, he has a really good style and I don’t think it’s AI. There just aren’t the mistakes that AI would make. I wonder what rating the Joker image would get on the AI finder.
I’m trying rn to teach myself how to draw cuz I want to put out my own comic some day, it’s kinda annoying when I see AI art being so good with so little effort
An AI writer would do much better than Aaron, Ewing, Wells
Many of these modern writers and artists are so bad ai would be a step up from them, that is the sad reality.
like it or not, AI art will be cheaper and these big corps will go for whats better for the bottom line.
looks like they may be going the way of the 'murican textile worker.
It will only be cheaper if an editor or art director does it & doesn't hire an artist to do the job.
I wonder if Sin City was made now if they would claim it was AI given how radically Miller changed gis art style for that book.
Its amazing that now if your art is considered too good people think you are a robot. Decades of work abd training only to be called a liar.
Mind you Im no fan of AI teplacing me as an artist but lets not get things twisted shall we.
When the big two hire artists that should be on tumblr and not enough real talent like Ryan Stegman, then I welcome the bots to draw comics.
Im all for AI art if it means faster, less expensive comics for me to enjoy, without compromising the quality. And honestly, at this point, how could it be worse?
No you are right it is Garth Ennis on that Batman series. I am dubious on the software designed to detect AI generated images. Way to early in its infancy. Plus AI does not have the ability to literally create like a human being does. It simply takes parameters given to it, gathers the information that meets the parameters and puts it together. So how does that software discern between machine and man, when the machine is using parameters provide by the man? WTF20
This is really interesting. If this artist actually knows how to draw and just made a one time mistake then I think he deserves a warning but shouldn’t have his career destroyed. I actually hope that the AI detection system gets bullet proof but don’t know if that’s realistic? Just a wild guess here but perhaps he made some AI generated images as reference and then copied or even traced them, and that could be causing a false positive? But who knows… I get asked on occasion if my work is both AI but also people think it’s organic. I use Procreate and the app records my drawing into 30 second videos so I can easily be transparent about my process.
I’m no generative AI expert, but the two things that stood out to me as odd in the Shazam piece were how the cape weirdly starts turning to liquid and how the yellow lining of his white collar seems to continue off the collar as ribbon.
Though, I’m not familiar with the artist and it certainly could just be his style. Would definitely be a shame if it wasn’t true and he was negatively impacted.
Awesome work mate
Yea I can’t see how that AI detector can be perfect every time, any digital art is going to be really clean looking when you want it to.
You bring up Batman Reptilian, that could easily be AI if I’m remembering it correctly, I have that run.
I saw the pencils for the power girl cover…..I do t think it was AI.
He could've traced the AI art though.
Is it wrong to say I prefer a.i to Greg land?
I am against AI personally but I do want to ask the public this question. What if books that used AI let it be known but also passed the savings onto the consumer? Meaning instead of $5.99 for a book it was $3.99? Would that make it more acceptable?
There's another artist out there whose painting style screams AI to me in both technique, light sourcing and color set. The fundamentals of his sketching (past and present) don't match his finished covers. And these variants are up for sale for hundreds of dollars. I guess there's a sucker born every minute.
Agreed the AI detectors are iffy at best. Sure they put most of my suspected artist's work as AI to a strong degree, but it also found one of my images nearly 100% AI. These detectors are probably as reliable as a lie detector machine and should be viewed as such. Nothing compares to human legwork and investigation. Hilariously enough, on eBay I'm seeing some fledgling artists copying AI artwork and trying to sell it off as their own.
Sure AI can be easy and has its place. In fact, I'm having a hard time finding a colorist that can color the way I like that I'd look into AI to finish off flats. But in my case, I'd keep my original line art intact, because I'm a comic book line guy. Color to me is a glossy afterthought.
If an artist wants to make a living being a script kitty prompting AI art, all the more power to them. But to me it's pretty much a graphic design job and has the same prestige of working for your local paper designing coupons. Look at enough AI art (my DA feed is full of it) it just all mushes together in samey-ness.
If an artist used AI to clean up their line work or make the lighting more accurate, is it really so bad?
Hell, I'd be okay with them using a 3D model of each city that way background artists can help make sure that the cities like Gotham, Metropolis, or NYC are always accurate.
I mean if your trying to meet deadlines for a comic I can see it but for a cover I don't see any reason to submit work with ai in it
I think you're confusing AI with 3D assets.
I can't tell if it is AI art or not, however, it does look VERY similar to the AI art people are posting in groups all over my facebook.
I don't want to see AI art in comics. I don't even like looking at digitally draw art, it just doesn't look right to me. Look how much Todd McFarlane's art has deteriorated since switching to digital.
I would much prefer to see hand drawn books.
remember that video he made coping about how his art is actually still just as good since he switched to digital
@@HonduranHoneymoonhon the B cover he did for Spawn 350 was actually pretty good, but most of his covers now are just slapped together as an afterthought, with proportions all out of what and things missing. The Gunslinger 1 cover was missing shoulder spikes and the cigar(although the smoke was still there) and they got added at later print variants.
@@destro47 I'm not a fan of his art, so I don't know what covers you're referring to. I could look them up, but i wouldn't have the feel for all of his covers before and after, like you do.
I just remember a video of him talking about how he's not loosing his artistic integrity and whatnot because he started using digital this was a long time ago. and looking back now after reading what you said, you showed me how he was just coping in that video. lying to himself basically
@@HonduranHoneymoonhon it's pretty disappointing. He went from one of the best and most innovative artists to just phoning it in. Not Eric Larson bad, but still.
Scarlet Witch: The Inquisition recommends tossing floppy comics into the water, weighted down. If they float, it's witchcraft. Burn comics at stake. We must save the soul of comics.
Quicksilver: U OK?
What happened to PGs chest?
A.I. is just like V.R. or any other similar computer software programs. It can be used for either positive or negative uses as a new advanced machine. It's either a benefit or a hazard. If it's a benefit to art, then it's not going to be a problem.
Power Girl looks AI generated AF. The costume design choices look overly random to me.
Great, another angle for worms like Alex de Campi and Ramon Villalobos to attack creators they don't like from.
The AI naysayers amuse me so much. AI is not going anywhere. And it’ll be all these talentless hacks with pitchforks that utilize it most.
It does look very similar to the AI generated art I see on FB 🤔
Maybe the AI detectors are trying to sabotage human artists by calling their legit work AI! 🤔 They could be in cahoots with the AI art apps! 😆
Maybe YOUR future. I can simply say NO. What is AI going to do?
Shazam looks like a (*&^g . Not a fan. Power Girl looks wrong too.
"you're just gonna be able to tell anymore" . BS. Artists can tell.
Anyone with working eyes can tell. It's not that hard to spot.
@@CoolCATs2814 agreed
Problem that they (DC) believed to Cancel Pigs rather than their artist, and i bet it's because characters don't look extra ugly and de-sexualised on his covers, if someone said same thing about half-shaved fat Crash ... DC would fought tooth and nail for "representation" of overweights.
Maybe just A.I can save the comics in the future because the industry is full of talentless hacks writers that cannot write a single decent comic book in nowadays.
Why do we need witch-hunts
Well, considering how low comic book artists are being paid, why not allow them to use AI to help lighten their workload?
Maybe then they can draw more pages and get paid more money overall using AI.
Even using AI, it takes an artist to touch it up so it looks right.
Because it's using someone else's work & calling it your own. We normally call that stealing.
I’m an artist myself (concept art for film/ games & illustration) & any artist can prove our work with a process gif. Also, if working digitally you can setup your computer to record every stroke or every second. So I assume the illustrators here did use AI, since it’d be very easy to prove otherwise if they didn’t.
Also, the reason that people are saying those sketches are traced… is because they are. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt: if he was working traditionally maybe he didn’t have prelim pics of sketches so he went back & made them. But then where are the thumbnails? A series of different comps or color comps? What did DC’s art director approve as an intermediate piece? Anyone who’s worked professionally can tell you: we’d have other intermediate pieces not just a perfect sketch + colored sketch. If you’ve got 3 covers for DC & that’s going to be a big deal in your career, you make darn sure to show your process. I’d record it whether I were working traditionally or digitally.
I will add, those “AI art detector” tools are nonsense. I think there are better tools that can detect if WRITING was AI generated, but they’re not perfect either.
Robots don’t create comic books…
they can make simulacrum of comic books though
That the 'Science Saves' crowd will eat up, as well as the liberal 'Is the product good that's all that matters' crowd(they might have a conviction in their soul about this at some point, but don't hold out hope), and the Consoomer Crowd
Just think about how many people eat those premade frozen dinners or drink soda pop more than just at like parties or cookouts, or eat candy regularly, etc
they'll consumer it blindly
Yeah its ai
I wouldn't be surprised if Taurin Clarke's covers turn out to be AI generated. They are so bland, unremarkable and look like they are just spammed out. Actually I take that back - I've seen far better AI generated art.
No surprise that the people jumping on this bandwagon are the same people jumping on every single witch hunt there is in the industry
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Casue he trying to get rid of the ....he finds out the court had killed his family and wanted revenge (yeah I guess for action genre but maybe like civil war with alternate ending and maybe also .....) he finds out the kills like movie wanted yeah I missing out on other original content but I Amy catch up or just appreciate at the moment casue I'm weird and happy for everyone.... The sex trafficking and the ninth circle casue Bruce like in comics was apart of .... Learned from variant comics when learning about lobo ... And he could ...... And I forget I got nothing
I think it's funny if he got lottery and lost money but ends up training with court or leagues
Maybe alternate casue could be in reverse if not Bruce hunting superman casue his religion and how online I caught Bruce religion and how Azrael he soon was friends with like In comics and how they fear meta humans like bvs and. Bruce work with lex and find out (lex apart of court and ninth circle and Tobias casue soon steel and black lightning, and amazing man and icon soon casue icon with Ras and highfather with trying to control the electrum and lazruz pit .......maybe latenate alternate with
The meta human with the prejudice like mutants and how since riae of meta humans and the religious terrorist I guess against metas but how they mistreated is kept from Batman which was reason he changed mind casue Bruce stopping superman like captain atom casue Clark a reporter and they know lex from war
Maybe I see Clark as reporting on war and taking interviewa like Superman birthright with jsa and wonder woman and Bruce and Hal and unaware of martian manhunt3 maybe and icon maybe too unaware and aquaman maybe and Oliver queen tho when he like in Smallville copy with when Bruce arrive to metropolis aftevwar and Jordan and Jhon too maybe and Steve Trevor before he gets lost in paradise island with Oliver queen damn I didn't see last one with Oliver queen and Steve Trevor.... On paradise island maybe
Another factor as to why they are coming for him....He's a Trump Supporter. Hey, I'm definitely not a Trump fan, but just because someone is doesn't mean they should lose their job or lose work. As long as they do good work I couldn't care less who they support as long as they aren't hurting anyone or causing problems
AI art is the future. We’re going to have to figure out how to deal with it.
When AI can produce 22 pages a month à la Buscema, Pollard, Romita, Colan, Andru, industry will get rid of artists no matter what, we all know that
Yes exactly, anyone that thinks any different is fooling themselves. Best to use it to your advantage.
Yeah, to just stop buying comics probably.
A.I. Images will probably get used in marketing, Like The image in toilet paper wrappers and stuff.
But it can easily be pressured to not be used in comics books,
but, people will probably find ways to hide it do people don't realize it's A.I. Images.
Just opting out of it all works to avoid the demonic
how
you can call it a tool, maybe. But 'art' ? ... no it's not art.
If the artist was not using AI, I would be mad at everybody calling them stupid and showing the files. And I would hope all the people accusing me to say sorry
There was two problems wrong with this video problem number one who the hell cares if he was drawn with AI none of those idiots at DC Comics can draw anymore anyway. Second problem why the hell are you still buying comics from from them
bullshit.
'AI Art' is theft. It doesn't create on its own. Take away access to its databases, like the Internet, and the program shuts down. Take an artists pencil or brush, and they'll find another way.
Take away all the youtube tutorials and digital classes and the aspiring artists will apply to DQ
Yes, AI art needs samples in order to build its neural networks. That is how machine learning works. Do you think it is theft when an artist uses references? A better analogy is taking away an artist's brain. Do you really think AI makes collages with its samples or something? It is always people against ai art who seem to not understand how basic machine learning works.
The worst AI bro is pretentious at most, the worst anti AI bro casually doxxes, insults, threatens, spams, and gangs up on people who use AI in anyway.
It's not theft if it's using images with permission. Some AI generators only use public domain images or images that the company has bought the rights to. And some artists have made custom generators by training the AI on their own artwork.
I get artist and writers feel threatened about losing their Jobs to AI but I’m so sick and tired of this stubborn, closed minded way of thinking that all AI is bad, we shouldn’t use it and we need to ostracize anyone who uses it. AI is going to continue to improve and it’s going to be able to replace you. It doesn’t matter if you like it or not. You can accept it or be in denial but it’s going to happen. To deny the use of AI is to deny progress. What are we supposed to do? Not accept the advancement of technology because you don’t like it? Because that’s how yall sound. Learn to adapt. Stop being selfish.
I don't think you see the real issue artists have, the question that needs to be answered by the courts or the government is whether using artists' copyrighted work to train AI is legal or not. It's not so much about losing jobs but being ripped off. If everything on the internet is free to use, your own art can be used to put you out of a job. It would be better if a copyright holder was paid for the right to have their work used.
@@therq946 well marvel and dc paid a lot of these artist to write and draw for them. They own it so they can do whatever. As for copying art they didn’t buy, what’s the difference between an artist looking at a picture someone else drew and making their own version of it and AI doing the same? We don’t hear people complain when a current artist takes an original Spider-Man picture drawn by Steve Ditko and then draws their version of it and makes money off it but if AI does it then it’s somehow evil?
Also you have people who take images and use ai in their free time to make pictures for fun. No profits at all. People making memes with AI are constantly attacked and accused of helping the big corporations and taking money away from artist when all they did was make a meme. That’s insanity and that’s what will make artist lose the argument. Something I think would be amazing is that in the near future, instead of complaining about some X-men or Spider-Man comic we don’t like, we can just have AI make comics for us and make them the way we want and it will basically be for free. I see nothing wrong with that. If artist have a problem with that then they should blame themselves for not making a good product.
@@fishin4bass2002 Disney who owns Marvel is suing AI. So they don't like their copyrighted stuff being trained in AI either. Most of Hollywood is suing AI over copyright infringement also. But Marvel and DC do ALLOW artists to profit from their IPs to a point. If tomorrow Marvel said nobody can sell another picture of Spider-Man without compensation for Marvel the fair use goes out the window and Marvel would be allowed to litigate those who break its copyright and trademark. Artists should have a say if their art is trained on AI even "just for fun". A machine does not learn to draw like a human, far from it. Just because you want it doesn't mean you get it for free, a great artist and a lousy artist deserve the same protections. The laws that protect artists are being blurred by AI but soon we'll find out where the courts and government stand.
Yes, everyone steal! Stop being selfish! LOL. You're a joke.