Yeah I should make the pinned comment something original and clever, that way it’ll look like I’m an intelligent and funny content creator. SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
Balthazar gelt literally has an item quest where he beats up a necromancer to get his cloak back and pretty much tells his men that life is temporary BUT THE DRIP IS ETERNAL.
Remember, CA recommends this faction for beginners. However, what most people don't realize is, they're not recommended because they're easy. They're recommended because new players need to understand this is a brutal world and that they need to git gud to survive.
speaking of tw gameplay, i really wanted to be able to play mortal empires but choose which regions i'll like to interact with, like, i want to play empire but i do not want to deal with whatever the hell is going on in lustria or cathay, both for the sake of not wanting to deal with either an massive lizard,elfs or skaven armies, but also because i don't want to spend many minutes just waiting for my turn to move 2 regiments to one point to another and repeat this process all over again
@@GeraltofRivia22 Can't say for WH1 but they were by no means easy in warhammer 2. If anything Karl's starting army is weaker in WH2 which makes that siege battle a lot harder at the start of the game.
"How your average Imperium and Empire citizen react to a daemon invasion" IOM citized : WHAT IS THAT UNHOLLY ABOMINATION! THE EMPEROR HAS FORSHAKEN US!!! "Planet turns into a daemon or gets exterminatus within months" Empire citized: Honey pass me my blade and musket, Imma kill the sh*t out of that red d**khead! "Chaos struggles to take over a single city IF they're lucky"
It illustrates how the God-Emperor was foolish for trying to keep his citizens ignorant of the Warp. All it did was leave them unable to see the threat of corruption for what it was. In the Empire, every citizen knows what a daemon is and why you don't mess with it. They're informed of the dangers of magic, and thus are immunized against it. (It's hardly perfect, of course. There's always going to be a fool who thinks they can handle Chaos. But at least Empire people are making informed choices).
I mean. One of the Elector Counts is Balthazar Gelt. That sounds like a pro at first, but then you realize nobody will ever play Karl Franz again, and Toddbringer unironically has more fans
Bretonnia has super soldiers blessed by some elven god in a lake. Tomb Kings were alive and now are skeletons. Cathay is ruled by actual dragons and half dragon blooded lords. You know what the Empire has? FAITH! STEEL! GUNPOWDER!
Brettonia, sets up a political system that makes them(the kings and dukes) immune to chaos corruption because their leaders are background checked by an Elven goddess. Sadly she doesn’t check their academic records, so it’s a nation run by supersoldiers who peaked in high school.
Nicolas Appert was a French Inventor who lived during the French Revolution and Napoleonic War. An important fact about armies is that they need to be fed and with the Levee en Mass the Revolutionary and latter Napoleonic Army had more mouths to feed than ever. To that end, there was considerable investment in ways to keep Food Fresh. Appert worked out a method of preserving food for years by putting it into glass bottles, sealing them, submerging them in a vat of boiling water for a period and then extracting them. In 1806 he perfected the process and was awarded 12,000 Francs for the job and sold large volumes of preserved food and vegetable products to the Grand Armee. Shortly afterwards in 1810-12, English inventors Peter Dunard, Byran Donkin and John Hall developed a similar system. However instead of glass bottles (which while clean and effective were prone to shattering) they used tin-coated cast-iron canisters to storage their preserved food and sold them to the Royal Navy and British Army. Soon afterwards "Canisterized Food" would be contracted to "Canned Food".
The best part about that story is that can openers weren't invented until a good bit after. This lead to smashed and damaged cans being a mass find in 19th century military archaeology. Oh and lead poisoning
Man what a coincidence that not even a few days ago I was looking up these very same inventors for adding some industrial flavour to my renaissance/napoleonic-inspired D&D setting and now here I am reading about them again on a warhammer video.
"Um, Witch Hunter, you know the rumors about those large rat men? Skaven, I believe they are called?" >Quiet, apostle. There are no such ratmen. "Well... If that is the case, what did Emperor Mandred Skavenslayer slay?" >... >Prepare the pyre.
@@Tomcat13436 Guillman to Sigmar: Are you my new dad? Sigmar: you see that elf woman who brought you back to life. Marry her to strengthen the bond between elf and man.
Karl Franz got done dirty by GW, he was THE guy who could've brought about a golden age for both the Empire and the forces of Order...then the world exploded. GW could've kept things grim and dark, but a man like Franz would've been one of the few beacons of hope and light to bring about something to make it more then just "40k but fantasy" which fantasy tragically became when AoS rolled around.
I prefer to act if AoS doesn't exist. Never clicked with me. And I have yet to find a license holder who is capable of forcing my brain to accept whatever is they canon of the month.
When I eventually free up space on my computer, I'll definitely do an Empire campaign with the sole purpose of bringing the forces of Order together and make Karl Franz proud. His speech for the Immortal Empires trailer is some of the finest I've ever heard, I think in part because he isn't just wanted the Empire to endure, but for everyone. He was born into this world, and now he's determined to save it.
He also took up the mantle of emperor of mankind. Has a lot to live up to. He could be corrupt and cowardly, but he truly tries to live up to that expectation. I think he’s a good man.
That's a fine aspiration, but you'll spend hours achieving that only for one faction to declare war on another and loads more take sides. It's really easy for that house of cards to collapse because while they'll be friendly and loyal with you, they won't be with others in the band. And that's why it's a nobel idea but one which rarely works
Gelt and Franz are wonderfully fun Legendary Lords. Not only do they pack a punch, they are just fun characters. If you get frustrated with a Gelt campaign just flip through a bunch of diplomacy dialogue from him or rewatch "Welcome to Estalia gentlemen" and feel your will to live return as his raw charisma refuels you
Balthasar Gelt is pretty damn cheesy 1 Winds of Magic bombardment spell? Fine..stay in your fortress, i can literally spam cast for the next 50 minutes straight
Personal opinion: while being awfully misused by GW writers, i personally love Volkmar the Grim a bit more than Karl. He is a old man with a determination of steel and such incredible faith that pushes him on even with a scarred and aging body. He knows that Chaos cannot be defeated only with repeatedly applying hammers over the problem until it stop being a problem and he searches for a more permanent solution. He is definitely a grey character because of all the evil shittery the cult of Sigmar does and did during history (and his army is usually made of crazy, self maimed maniacs), has the very badass title "The Grim" which says everything about him, has a literally weaponised pope car AND, most important of all, has the most powerful pair of mustaches that i ever saw. Those mustaches are some Bismarck level shit.
@Quotzalcoatl By Belakor even, during the absolutely blursed Winds of Magic campaign. This is the same one remembered in lore where basically a who's who of chaos got bogged down in Middenland for some reason until Grimgor came up and gave Archaeon a spanking, and is a reflection of an IRL campaign done by players at the time.
The way to make Imperial authority work is by always occupying empire settlements, then selling them to a bordering elector count and waiting for the event to return it to its previous owner next turn. With this, the whole Empire becomes an Imperial Authority farm, The Wasteland and Sylvania included.
Fun fact, that glass tax riot you mentioned has historical basis. England had a "window tax" in the 1600s iirc, causing houses to be built with as few windows as possible, or windows to be boarded up, and in the early 1800s there was a glass tax, which raised prices on glass up to 300% before it was finally scrapped.
You forgot one upside: 40k's standard Bolter and an Empire Handgun both have the same range, have Strength 4 and ignore armor saves of 5+ or worse. Except one is a master-crafted piece of equipment with every shell being untold hours of an artisan's life to make the perfect whell, while the Handgun is just a metal tube on a stick filled with powder and a ball. Or how a 40k Lascannon, a powerful laser cannon meant to deal with tanks and monsters, has Strength 9 while a Fantasy cannon made with 1600s technology is Strength 10.
There’s a fantasy setting that’s near and dear to my heart called “Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends.” If you ever get a chance, the Renaissance human faction, the Vinci, reminds me of the Empire of Man from WHF. If you own a physical copy, congratulations. For those who don’t, good luck finding one.
"I am Sigmar. I am Golden. I am God. Harken for my name, for it will echo redoubled through the ages. It will strike down my enemies wherever they may hide. It will be heard when the need is greatest." -Deus Sigmar.
Wizards and Warriors did an excellent video series on SIgmar and his creation of the Empire and watching that has also gotten me to gain a great deal of respect for the intentions behind WHY it was created and the leader/god who made it happen.
- me playing gelt - having strong dwarfen allies to secure my eastern and southern flank - having rooted out everything threat within the imperium - preparing to go kick some norscan and chaos ass at around turn 90 - fucking tzeentch ambushes
I used to think that the fantasy warhammer was just another lost/forgotten planet of the warhammer 40k universe and that Sigmar was a lost son. Others used say the fantasy world was a dream reality setup by the Big E that's why you have all the monsters from 40k in the fantasy realm.
It used to waiver back and forth before they more or less completely disconnected the settings. I'm pretty sure one point it was like you said, Fantasy was a planet in the Eye, and then I believe at another point the entire 40k universe was in a globe on some dude's shelf in Altdorf which is really funny to me.
@@pancreasnowork9939 hahaha yeah I saw that on the men in black movie where an entire galaxy is in a cat collar trinket. It's a great theme, or when the entire Lovecraft reality is based on a ethereal beings nightmares, love it!
It's actually completely different, it's just that GW is mega lazy to come up with new names. New names that are worth a shit and not "aelfs" or "orruks". roflmao /facepalm.
@@pancreasnowork9939 I often wonder what would it be like to have a cross over between age of Sigmar and 40 k like imagine the maelstrom became a portal to the nine realms.
Yooo I'm the guy who made the thunderbarge mod and it's awesome seeing you use it! Love ur videos and watch all the time so really cool seeing u use it and appreciate that u like it! Keep up the awesome video mate.
I tried to play them once in Total War Warhammer 2 I had absolutely no idea what the hell I was doing I managed to Confederate a single other area and then the rest of the empire declared war on me while nordland was busy getting invaded by norskans
Lol, exactly my experience. Played them twice, both times got ROFL stomped and dropped the entire TW Warhammer series. Back to Rome 2 where it all makes sense 😂
Pancreas hates Bretonnians for worshipping an Elf deity and basing their warriors on them. However, Pancreas is an Elf simp and would do the same. Curious.
Something I really hope gets more fleshed out or brought to other factions is the "send a detachment of troops" events that pop up for Empire. I love being handed a small selection of troops and told "go have your Riders of Rohan moment", and wish there was more to that system. Imagine if there were techs that let you upgrade the number and quality of those troops, like how the Skaven can upgrade their Vermintide armies.
My only complaint about that system is the seige battles are pretty much over by the time you get to play them, though I supposed that was the 2 version, idk how 3 is with it
I only remember being given some guys, spawning next to Norscans, and immediately being overrun by Skinwolves and being forced back off the map before my guys could get a shot off.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Yeah it's either that or you can't get to the fight before your allies are dead. Meanwhile, auto-resolve is almost always a victory.
Or make it like the Cathayen Caravan system, only instead of sending them around the world for riches you assign them a rough area of the empire to protect, where they can join battles of empire armies. Slowly getting better and stronger. But well, there is a lot of empires and you have only so many reserve armies. Do you help in the battle now, and see the capital fall because your army is still healing up? do you shift them to Nordland so the Norsca raids stop being D-Day and start being Dieppe? Do you try to keep Vlad into Sylvania for a bit longer.
The empire Karl Franz campaign is what made me download over a 100 mods in III. No regrets to be honest. Having a way to make us of over 20 different knight orders and using my prestige for buffs like you mentioned makes Me feel immersed
My empire campaigns usually follow the same formula, secure reikland, kill marienberg for the port, farm authority in middenheim from festus and the beastmen burning it down all the time.
As luck would happen, I have just finished a Legendary Franz campaign. I managed to get a relatively quick kill on both Kazrak and Festus, confederated Gelt early, and Vlad just sorta died for no reason. Aside from the fact that I rolled a Death wizard instead of literally anything else, a real blessed run. I love playing Reikland in TWW. Such a great selection of units, so many fun ways to build an army, and Franz being the chaddest chad that has ever chadded.
@@samuelevans738 Well, I wouldn't say it's *that* bad. Like, it's still better than having no magic. I just don't think it works as well with Franz' campaign as the others. He's an excellent brawler lord with gunpowder units in his starting army, so Spirit Leech and Fate of Bjuna is just not as valuable. Purple Sun is expensive and unreliable, and you can expect to be fighting a lot of undead, who don't really care about leadership bombs. Some would argue that the Beast wizard is worse, but at least that one gets manticore summons and a griffin mount on a unit roster that's very low on flying units. The various buffs are also good for supporting your rather underwhelming infantry, or giving your Reiksguard a bit more "oomph" on the charge. As for the schools not mentioned yet, I'd say Fire and Life are the best, followed by Heavens, then Light and Shadow.
Imperium: what is that?? A daemon?! Oh no! We are doomed! The emperor has forsaken us! We must blow up entire planet's so no one can ever learn of this disaster! Empire: square tf up chaos thots
For anyone who want to play the Empire, I strongly suggest the Volkmar campaign. It is not really hard and they replace the elector count mechanics with gathering the books of Nagash.
One of pivotal points of what makes Pancreasnowork videos are so enjoyable to me that it's a good break from the meticulously and overtly serious Warhammer 40K lore analyses videos (especially videos akin to Luetin09 which often defends the status quo of currently available lores so much) which often regurgitate the same lore progression unless new stuffs (sometimes through leaks) happening, even biggest gacha games' progress their lores much faster than GW's previous years' lore "movement and progression", so much of "The End Times" It's like the off-cam and American (with somehow less entrepreneur-minded) version of Majorkill, plus with more references of stuffs outside GW that doesn't involve real talk self-esteem, but Majorkill is still great nonetheless, he insists to think that there's always sense of W40K entire lore despite the stupidly vomiting amount of (expensive) scarce lores and ambiguity at least before current GW-era of lore-progression Keep up the great Warhammer work alongside the general eloquence for promoting Warhammer Fantasy settings, Mr Pancreas (your halo references are great too)
For those looking to start an Empire army on tabletop, for AoS Cities of Sigmar or for the Old World when that comes out, there are a number of third party manufacturers that can supply Empire models more cheaply than buying from GW. Setting aside 3D printing or resin model stores, which are cost-effective for big important models but less good for rank-and-file on a per-model basis, I'd recommend two manufacturers of plastic kits. Because historical plastics are among the most economical models to get in this hobby. The first is the Landsknecht model range from Warlord Games. The Empire of Man is based on the Landsknecht, so it makes sense to go straight to the source. They have individual kits for each of the standard infantry modes you want (Pikes, Zweihanders + Halberds, Rifles + Crossbows), though that means you'll need to plan out your purchases depending on what you need. They've also got metal models, which can be good to peruse if you need officers or other cool additions that strike your fancy. Albeit at metal prices. Speaking of price, you'll be paying a premium for delivery costs if you're ordering outside the UK, and especially if you're outside North America. The second is a personal favorite of mine, Wargames Atlantic. They've got their Conquistadors kit, which has head options for more continental troops. You'll generally get fewer models per kit (24 versus an average of 30 for Warlord Games), but that kit has all the weapon options included therein. No having to think, just grab a bunch of them. Which you're encouraged to do, as WA has both free worldwide shipping for orders over $50 US (the lowest I've seen among major mini manufacturers), AND discounts for buying the same kit in bulk. It really comes down to how much extraneous bits you want to end up with. Wargames Atlantic also has a Landsknecht Ogres kit, for if you want/can field some Ogre mercenaries (or if you want the Ogres on their own, for Ogre Kingdoms/Ogor Mawtribes).
Welp, I'm looking forward to the Do or Don't for Kislev, with the most obvious lore negative being "If you don't like bears, you don't want Kislev. They're not as bad as the Space Wolves, but bears are fucking everywhere. The only one of their characters, lords or heroes, who doesn't have a bear mount is Ulrika, both kinds of war sleds are pulled by bears, YOU GET THE IDEA?" Update: yeah, Mother Ostankya and the Hag Witches all exist, but they're DLC content and Shadows of Change turned out to be garbage DLC in its original release state.
Bretonnia has the whole "acting honorable" etc.. but the key difference between the Honorable Bretonnia and the Empire is that one is a feudal society, preventing peasants from moving up in the ladder, while the empire still is merit based and a peasant could get out of the situation of being a peasant.
i highly reccomend the mixus legendary lord mod it makes all of the elector counts into unique legendary lords which adds sooo much variety to the game- elspeth von draken is my personal favourite
not only are the elector counts just speed bumps to Vlad, but they also make it so that when he does reach Altdorf, he does it with a stack of grave guard, blood knights and other monsters instead of full stack of skellies and his 3 starting grave guard. those ECs will create big piles of corpses for him to choose from.
The elector counts are sadly enough complete pushovers. Hopefully that will be rectified somewhat with ToD. They don’t all need unique models but I do feel there needs to be a bit more faction individuality and the AI need to not be as stupid with how it recruits armies
Maybe not that important, but: -There is a mod to add Snorri Nosebiter by PinkPonyKnight -Other to add Gotrek and Felix as one unit (two entities, one space in the army) call Ye Olde Skool Gotrek and Felix! by Chapter Serf Just in case 😉😉
You know, I had one pretty good campaign with the empire. Got all the provinces, bulldozed marienburg into servitude, kept the bretonnians out my arse and sicced them at the dark elves/shadow legion and purged Vlad out of existence. When I was thinking of going to help the dwarves the end times event hit and chaos started to pour from every inch of land I didn't control. While I like the challenge, fighting and killing Archeon EVERY THREE TURNS turns into a chore very fast. And the only way I found to stop that is colonizing Norsca, and BY SIGMAR I HATE THAT PLACE! Still did it though. Kicked every single chaos faction into oblivion to get my final victory but MAN chaos invasion overstays it's welcome.
"the empire being under constant threat early game is the worst part" uh no it's the best part. Fighting tooth and nail to unite the empire, then conqure the world is the appeal.
We need Total War 40K, they clearly have a good basis to accurately portray Guilliman's headache trying to pull the Imperium's shit together judging by how well they did it with the Empire.
40k is way too technologically advanced for a total war game, there’s a reason we have HOI4 instead of Total World War 2, the system is build around columns of men charging or using primitive ranged weapons that require reloading after just one shot.
@@woomod2445 I take it you have never read the rest of my comment, but none of the factions work. Eldar are about hit and runs, Imperium relied on WW1 tactics, Space marines don’t sit in tight square formations slowly matching at the enemy, etc. Fantasy worked great since it shared the warfare style of total war games but if you’ve ever played a single total war game, you’d realize that it’s type of strategy and fighting are far too medieval for a science fiction setting. Also, you can’t give everyone an automatic weapon in total war, the game would be buggy as shit.
40k imperium is like: You doesn't like eating algae and 18 hour shifts in your slave pit? To the adeptus mechanicus you go! You will make a great servitor!
"They will lose in melee against Chaos (and the Orks as well I might add) and they will lose in an artillery duel against the Dwarfs..." ... but they still kick Bretonia's ass in a cavalry duel (see: Zerkovich, Total war 1v1) and that's hilarious! 😂 Demygriph knights won a 1v1 against Pegasus knights even though the latter is a flying unit so the Demygriphs couldn't do anything against the initial charge and just took it like champs... and still managed to win in the end. THE EMPIRE ENDURES! ⚔️💀💪
Your Karl franz vs the world happened exactly to me but with Arkhan instead. My army of humble nehekaran warriors managed to kill all the monsters and cavalry so it was a fun fortymi uses of arkhan pimping out spirit leeches onto heroes, skeleton summons into cycle and flanking charges, Arkhan the Black killed 2600 skeletons of varied types (including tomb guard) of these lesser tomb kings. And because my mate thought I couldn't do it I got a free curse of the vampire coast dlc as a bet
i find it funny, while playing as festus in immortal empires, you can force vassal the nearest empire faction, and get empire units as a garrison units. was fun having a slow army while you also get ranged fire power. even tho its just crossbows or just basic bowmen.
An artillery duel with dwarfs is actually pretty winnable. The hellstorm rocket battery can easily take out everything besides cannons. Dwarf cannons do win unless you manage to fire at the same time (50 range advantage).
I don't know in gameplay, but in lore, dwarves are more focused on reliability and precision, while the Empire was focused on innovation and mass production.
In TWW2, I always loved play as the Empire. In 3 though, as Franz, there's too many enemies with too little coordination to keep the Empire intact for any length of time. I'm not saying you can't deal with all of it given enough time, but I spend a lot of time lamenting hitting the next button and going, "What is it now?!" and sprinting half way across the map to MAYBE get there in time before everything falls apart. By turn 5-10, Hochland WILL be destroyed and Middenland will be in shambles. By turn 25-30, the Vampires and either the tree huggers or the orc version of Big Chungus will be knocking on your back door liking a word. By turn 50, if you haven't dealt with the Vampires, IKEA and all of its Swedish meatball tribes start massacring Norldand, Kislev, Osterland, and if you're luck Marienburg. I rarely get to confederate the entire empire even if I just forget Hochland exists and I want to say it takes to about turn 160. The thing is, diplomacy for the Empire has been relatively easy in TWW2 and I feel the thing that hobbles it in 3 the most is not being about to make alliances or outposts. If Creative Assembly doesn't want me to confederate the entire Empire by like turn 50 and create the Ordertide or whatever, then make succession a possibility and prestige a way to maintain it. Maybe even resource buildings for prestige, and something similar to scrap upgrades for troops or something like an edict that gives me faction buffs after the long process of it being fully confederated.
Great video, also the Improved Electoral Machinations mod allows you to spend prestige to get defensive or military alliances with the elector counts and even spend it to improve authority or fealty.
Karl Franz is an Emperor who actually does something instead of sitting on his throne like that fossil from 40k or slacking off up high in his floating sky palace like that old dragon of Cathay. That’s all that is needed to say.
'Stuck on an island being invaded by their asshole cousins' Yes but humanity is its own asshole cousin so we pretty much draw with the elves on that front.
When asked about what makes a good Empire numerous voices claimed different things. “Diplomacy” “Magic” “Infrastructure” all of these are wrong, yet every citizen under our fair Empire knows the 3 tenets by which we live and thrive. Faith, Steel, and Gunpowder. For the Empire and Franz brother
"They ARE just regular humans." Bro, that is in NO way a downside. I'm a 40k Guard man, I don't even like spoice marines 'cause there's nothing exciting about super soldiers doing super things. When an Elysian without backup and half his promised equipment accomplishes his mission, THAT is a story.
The Empire might be the boring "some dude" faction like the imperial guard, but at least they arnt so cowardly they need a guy in a funny hat to point a gun at them so they don't run from danger
19:58 ahh mentioning good ole kruber being a bit of a dissenter, always funny to hear saltspyre basically threaten to kill kruber then and there for going against the established order. honestly i would love to see a vermintide video from you. vermintide II especially mixes the fantastical and silly elements of warhammer (the plot of the game is literally and unironically "a elf, a dwarf, a witch hunter and his soldier buddy, and a fire wizard walk into a bar")while still portraying an underlying sense of dread of what is to come. honestly one of the better representations of the end times lore. i mean obviously its different to what you usually cover because vermintide games literally don't change the plot of the end times at all, and really focus on individuals that aren't important or that powerful compared to some in the world, but still, a video on why it works compared to how every other part of end times lore (minus settra being an absolute gigachad telling the gods of hell to fuck off as the world ends around him) falls flat. vermintide II for me you really get to see in person the hell the empire is going through. its not skimped quickly to focus on world shattering battles like how the books are, its not just simplified as a settlement being raised in the total war games, you get to see the very visceral destruction of entire townscapes. it focuses on the small forgotten about civilians being masacred and less powerful heroes trying their best, which for me makes the ubersriek 5 feel more humanized and real for how someone would react given the scenario. even the annoying kerillian, who despite being arrogant still gets her moments of character development
To me the greatest appeal of the Empire, and Dwarfs to an extent, is that they are most similar to my favorite era of Total War games....the gunpowder era. I long for Total War: Empire 2 so I can decimate my foes with canons, and hope guns are more like those in Fall of the Samurai, they generally hit what they aim at and kill what they hit. The Empire in Warhammer will have to do in the meantime.
Okay great news! I was able narrow down the number subscribers you had when I subscribed. I subscribed on April 9, 2022 and the number of subscribers you had at the time was about 36-37k.
WELCOME TO ESTALIA GENTLEMEN. I WILL NOT LIE, THE CHANCES OF YOUR SURVIVAL ARE SMALL. SOME MAY EVEN TURN AGAINDT YOUR FRIENDS AS LIVING CORPSES- BUT YOU HAVE MY WORD, THAT I SHALL USE MY ARCANE GIFTS TO ENSURE YOUR BODIES ARE GIVEN UP TO MOR'S GARDEN. THIS IS THE GREATEST REWARD, MORE THAN EVEN GOLD, FOR THE FATE OF YOUR SOUL IS AN ETERNAL CONCERN. NOW COME, FOLLOW ME, STROKE DOWN THE UNDEAD THAT RISE AGAINST US. ALLOW ME TO FIND THIS ELDRITCH AMULET. I ASK NOT FOR MY OWN SELFISH STUDIES, BUT FOR THE GOOD OF THE EMPIRE.
Yeah I should make the pinned comment something original and clever, that way it’ll look like I’m an intelligent and funny content creator.
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
But it’s turn 20 Franz they all died
@@icealkion except wissenland, they rebelled and are fighting you
@@Max-bg7oo Also, I'm pretty sure I saw Skarbrand making a break for Altdorf from the Southlands a few turns ago.
@@BossEvasion ah, he will give company to festus, he's quite lonely after taking over a third of the empire
SMUOMN ETELOCR THE CUTONS!
“One man with a halberd may not be a match for a giant, but then, no man fights alone when he fights for Franz”
FOR KARL!!!!
@@robberyproductions1363 ROCK AND STOOoone... wait wrong game.
@@robberyproductions1363 ROCK AND STONE BROTHER!
FOR KARL! ROCK AND STONE!
@@sixten2100 FOR STEEL AND GUNPOWDER!
Pro: You can send tanks to kill Bretonnians
Cons: You are bordering Bretonnia
😂
My biggest gripe for "Time of Legends" was how Sigmar threatens Bretonnia to help then just forgets about them after.
Pro of the Con: You can get to killing Bretonnians faster.
How are we supposed to kick their ass when they're halfway across the world?
@@drysocks4412 Way to turn those lemons into lemonade.
Karl Franz actually has a warhammer, need I say more?
I loved the part where sigmar said "you did it Franz you truly are the total warhammer III."
Karl Franz has _the_ Warhammer: Ghal Maraz, aka the Skull Splitter.
@@BlueSatoshi Fancy words magic man.
@@BlueSatoshi "Ghal" sounds like the Finnish word for skull "Kallo" just enough for me to believe they took it as inspiration. That's cute GW.
Faded than a ho
Balthazar gelt literally has an item quest where he beats up a necromancer to get his cloak back and pretty much tells his men that life is temporary BUT THE DRIP IS ETERNAL.
'Welcome to Estalia, Gentlemen."
@@gratuitouslurking8610 *The sound of helicopter rotors over the opening riff of Paranoid begins is heard*
Remember:
Never ask a woman her age
Never ask a man his salary
Never ask Marius Leitdorf what happened in 2502 IC in the Moot
Why what happened
@@MaxterandKiwiKing look him up and you’ll know
They had it coming. They only had themselves to blame. If you had been there, if you had seen it, you would’ve done the same.
I will always ask what a man earns. For if he or I are cheated out of money by our employer we better know
Hahahahaha good one 😂
Remember, CA recommends this faction for beginners.
However, what most people don't realize is, they're not recommended because they're easy. They're recommended because new players need to understand this is a brutal world and that they need to git gud to survive.
speaking of tw gameplay, i really wanted to be able to play mortal empires but choose which regions i'll like to interact with, like, i want to play empire but i do not want to deal with whatever the hell is going on in lustria or cathay, both for the sake of not wanting to deal with either an massive lizard,elfs or skaven armies, but also because i don't want to spend many minutes just waiting for my turn to move 2 regiments to one point to another and repeat this process all over again
It's because they were easy in Warhammer 1 and 2. It's only in Warhammer 3 that they have a tough time.
@@GeraltofRivia22 Can't say for WH1 but they were by no means easy in warhammer 2. If anything Karl's starting army is weaker in WH2 which makes that siege battle a lot harder at the start of the game.
@@OHGAS-rt5uc then just play warhammer 1
@@d.n5287 did...did you actually read what i freaking said? if i wanted to play lizardmen bhe empire should i play the fucking vortex game then?
"How your average Imperium and Empire citizen react to a daemon invasion"
IOM citized : WHAT IS THAT UNHOLLY ABOMINATION! THE EMPEROR HAS FORSHAKEN US!!! "Planet turns into a daemon or gets exterminatus within months"
Empire citized: Honey pass me my blade and musket, Imma kill the sh*t out of that red d**khead! "Chaos struggles to take over a single city IF they're lucky"
Sigmar Priest: That's it! I'm getting me mallet!
SIGMAR PROTECTS
It illustrates how the God-Emperor was foolish for trying to keep his citizens ignorant of the Warp. All it did was leave them unable to see the threat of corruption for what it was. In the Empire, every citizen knows what a daemon is and why you don't mess with it. They're informed of the dangers of magic, and thus are immunized against it. (It's hardly perfect, of course. There's always going to be a fool who thinks they can handle Chaos. But at least Empire people are making informed choices).
"The things I do for Nurgle...."
Sigmar more like Sigma
Pros: you get to summon the elector counts
Cons: nothing
Correction: one of them is a vampire, on second thoughts no you are completely correct no downsides
@@creed2466 Another pro one of them is Vlad Von Chadstein
@@creed2466 As long as the vampire isn't Manfred, then everything's good.
@@jacksonbowns1087 Ahh good old Mannfred
Thr Erebus of Fantasy
I mean.
One of the Elector Counts is Balthazar Gelt.
That sounds like a pro at first, but then you realize nobody will ever play Karl Franz again, and Toddbringer unironically has more fans
"Three things make the Empire Great; Faith, Steel, and Gunpowder." Magnus the Pious #ForTheEmpire
MAY SIGMAR'S HAMMER EVER GUIDE US.
One of the best quotes in fiction
Bretonnia has super soldiers blessed by some elven god in a lake.
Tomb Kings were alive and now are skeletons.
Cathay is ruled by actual dragons and half dragon blooded lords.
You know what the Empire has?
FAITH!
STEEL!
GUNPOWDER!
And somehow, it shall endure longer than the first two, and will continue being a pain in the arse for Cathay's self esteem until it's erasure.
@@samuelevans738it took a fucking full scale chaos invasion and none existent giant ratmen to eliminate the empire wtf is it on? Humanity that's what
And a whole lot of friendship.
"You only have one of those things and not very much of it."
Brettonia, sets up a political system that makes them(the kings and dukes) immune to chaos corruption because their leaders are background checked by an Elven goddess. Sadly she doesn’t check their academic records, so it’s a nation run by supersoldiers who peaked in high school.
Nicolas Appert was a French Inventor who lived during the French Revolution and Napoleonic War. An important fact about armies is that they need to be fed and with the Levee en Mass the Revolutionary and latter Napoleonic Army had more mouths to feed than ever. To that end, there was considerable investment in ways to keep Food Fresh. Appert worked out a method of preserving food for years by putting it into glass bottles, sealing them, submerging them in a vat of boiling water for a period and then extracting them. In 1806 he perfected the process and was awarded 12,000 Francs for the job and sold large volumes of preserved food and vegetable products to the Grand Armee.
Shortly afterwards in 1810-12, English inventors Peter Dunard, Byran Donkin and John Hall developed a similar system. However instead of glass bottles (which while clean and effective were prone to shattering) they used tin-coated cast-iron canisters to storage their preserved food and sold them to the Royal Navy and British Army. Soon afterwards "Canisterized Food" would be contracted to "Canned Food".
He wasn't able to develop canning in time to help Napoleon though. Still, a very important development for humanity.
The best part about that story is that can openers weren't invented until a good bit after. This lead to smashed and damaged cans being a mass find in 19th century military archaeology. Oh and lead poisoning
You know, I was just wondering about when modern food preservation became a thing.
Man what a coincidence that not even a few days ago I was looking up these very same inventors for adding some industrial flavour to my renaissance/napoleonic-inspired D&D setting and now here I am reading about them again on a warhammer video.
What I learned:
If it weren't for these wartime French and English people, I would starve 99 percent of the time.
Thanks 👍
"Um, Witch Hunter, you know the rumors about those large rat men? Skaven, I believe they are called?"
>Quiet, apostle. There are no such ratmen.
"Well... If that is the case, what did Emperor Mandred Skavenslayer slay?"
>...
>Prepare the pyre.
That's not why skaven don't exist. Manfred killed them all. This is from the second Gotrek and Felix book
Ultimate pro:
Unlike the Emperor of Mankind, SIGMAR let’s you have Elf Waifus
Based and Sigmarpilled.
Praise Sigmar!
Guilliman: Sign me the FUCK UP!
@@Tomcat13436 Guillman to Sigmar: Are you my new dad?
Sigmar: you see that elf woman who brought you back to life. Marry her to strengthen the bond between elf and man.
Sigmar to Guilliman: The emperor may be your father, but he ain't your daddy.
Karl Franz got done dirty by GW, he was THE guy who could've brought about a golden age for both the Empire and the forces of Order...then the world exploded. GW could've kept things grim and dark, but a man like Franz would've been one of the few beacons of hope and light to bring about something to make it more then just "40k but fantasy" which fantasy tragically became when AoS rolled around.
I prefer to act if AoS doesn't exist. Never clicked with me. And I have yet to find a license holder who is capable of forcing my brain to accept whatever is they canon of the month.
When I eventually free up space on my computer, I'll definitely do an Empire campaign with the sole purpose of bringing the forces of Order together and make Karl Franz proud. His speech for the Immortal Empires trailer is some of the finest I've ever heard, I think in part because he isn't just wanted the Empire to endure, but for everyone. He was born into this world, and now he's determined to save it.
He also took up the mantle of emperor of mankind. Has a lot to live up to. He could be corrupt and cowardly, but he truly tries to live up to that expectation.
I think he’s a good man.
That's a fine aspiration, but you'll spend hours achieving that only for one faction to declare war on another and loads more take sides. It's really easy for that house of cards to collapse because while they'll be friendly and loyal with you, they won't be with others in the band. And that's why it's a nobel idea but one which rarely works
@87mc12 you need to be high elves for it to work, so you can use their mechanic to make other factions like each other
Gelt and Franz are wonderfully fun Legendary Lords. Not only do they pack a punch, they are just fun characters. If you get frustrated with a Gelt campaign just flip through a bunch of diplomacy dialogue from him or rewatch "Welcome to Estalia gentlemen" and feel your will to live return as his raw charisma refuels you
He has some of the best diplomacy insults in the game, especially against Greenskins.
@@nerdyvids1 I love the way he threatens Chaos champions by implying he can super heat their armor that they cursed to never remove
Balthasar Gelt is pretty damn cheesy
1 Winds of Magic bombardment spell?
Fine..stay in your fortress, i can literally spam cast for the next 50 minutes straight
@@adrienwatson2179 don't forget the artillery spam
Personal opinion: while being awfully misused by GW writers, i personally love Volkmar the Grim a bit more than Karl. He is a old man with a determination of steel and such incredible faith that pushes him on even with a scarred and aging body. He knows that Chaos cannot be defeated only with repeatedly applying hammers over the problem until it stop being a problem and he searches for a more permanent solution. He is definitely a grey character because of all the evil shittery the cult of Sigmar does and did during history (and his army is usually made of crazy, self maimed maniacs), has the very badass title "The Grim" which says everything about him, has a literally weaponised pope car AND, most important of all, has the most powerful pair of mustaches that i ever saw. Those mustaches are some Bismarck level shit.
@Quotzalcoatl By Belakor even, during the absolutely blursed Winds of Magic campaign. This is the same one remembered in lore where basically a who's who of chaos got bogged down in Middenland for some reason until Grimgor came up and gave Archaeon a spanking, and is a reflection of an IRL campaign done by players at the time.
His mustache is on par with Piłsudzki
He is what Lorgar wanted to be, if he was in another story.
The way to make Imperial authority work is by always occupying empire settlements, then selling them to a bordering elector count and waiting for the event to return it to its previous owner next turn. With this, the whole Empire becomes an Imperial Authority farm, The Wasteland and Sylvania included.
Of course you are doing this as Gelt and laughing at the peasants down below as you repay the Dwarves a few thousand kilograms of steel.
"eat your heart out tchaikovsky because balthazar gelt is your biggest fan and he's giving one hell of a performance"
brilliant writing.
Franzer division is genius.
*Boris Todbringer has entered the chat*
"I heard the sacred summon."
Fun fact, that glass tax riot you mentioned has historical basis. England had a "window tax" in the 1600s iirc, causing houses to be built with as few windows as possible, or windows to be boarded up, and in the early 1800s there was a glass tax, which raised prices on glass up to 300% before it was finally scrapped.
You forgot one upside: 40k's standard Bolter and an Empire Handgun both have the same range, have Strength 4 and ignore armor saves of 5+ or worse. Except one is a master-crafted piece of equipment with every shell being untold hours of an artisan's life to make the perfect whell, while the Handgun is just a metal tube on a stick filled with powder and a ball.
Or how a 40k Lascannon, a powerful laser cannon meant to deal with tanks and monsters, has Strength 9 while a Fantasy cannon made with 1600s technology is Strength 10.
Laser weapons can be defeated by mirrors irl. Cannonballs aren't. The verdict is in, the empire beats the imperium.
Imperium stops making sense when it stops being treated as a parody
Empire still kinda makes sense on it's own given the fuckin insane world it's in
There’s a fantasy setting that’s near and dear to my heart called “Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends.”
If you ever get a chance, the Renaissance human faction, the Vinci, reminds me of the Empire of Man from WHF. If you own a physical copy, congratulations. For those who don’t, good luck finding one.
Or you can find a zip file pretty easily on most arcive cites
Sseth did a video on that
"I am Sigmar. I am Golden. I am God. Harken for my name, for it will echo redoubled through the ages. It will strike down my enemies wherever they may hide. It will be heard when the need is greatest."
-Deus Sigmar.
Wizards and Warriors did an excellent video series on SIgmar and his creation of the Empire and watching that has also gotten me to gain a great deal of respect for the intentions behind WHY it was created and the leader/god who made it happen.
- me playing gelt
- having strong dwarfen allies to secure my eastern and southern flank
- having rooted out everything threat within the imperium
- preparing to go kick some norscan and chaos ass at around turn 90
- fucking tzeentch ambushes
I used to think that the fantasy warhammer was just another lost/forgotten planet of the warhammer 40k universe and that Sigmar was a lost son. Others used say the fantasy world was a dream reality setup by the Big E that's why you have all the monsters from 40k in the fantasy realm.
It used to waiver back and forth before they more or less completely disconnected the settings. I'm pretty sure one point it was like you said, Fantasy was a planet in the Eye, and then I believe at another point the entire 40k universe was in a globe on some dude's shelf in Altdorf which is really funny to me.
@@pancreasnowork9939 hahaha yeah I saw that on the men in black movie where an entire galaxy is in a cat collar trinket. It's a great theme, or when the entire Lovecraft reality is based on a ethereal beings nightmares, love it!
It's actually completely different, it's just that GW is mega lazy to come up with new names. New names that are worth a shit and not "aelfs" or "orruks". roflmao /facepalm.
Personally, I don't think the two Warhammer settings NEED to be connected, save through the vagaries of Chaos. They do just fine as separate settings.
@@pancreasnowork9939 I often wonder what would it be like to have a cross over between age of Sigmar and 40 k like imagine the maelstrom became a portal to the nine realms.
Yooo I'm the guy who made the thunderbarge mod and it's awesome seeing you use it! Love ur videos and watch all the time so really cool seeing u use it and appreciate that u like it! Keep up the awesome video mate.
I tried to play them once in Total War Warhammer 2 I had absolutely no idea what the hell I was doing I managed to Confederate a single other area and then the rest of the empire declared war on me while nordland was busy getting invaded by norskans
Lol, exactly my experience. Played them twice, both times got ROFL stomped and dropped the entire TW Warhammer series. Back to Rome 2 where it all makes sense 😂
Pancreas hates Bretonnians for worshipping an Elf deity and basing their warriors on them.
However, Pancreas is an Elf simp and would do the same.
Curious.
He hates them because they are a mirror for him
By Sigmar I’m boutta summon the elector counts
Something I really hope gets more fleshed out or brought to other factions is the "send a detachment of troops" events that pop up for Empire. I love being handed a small selection of troops and told "go have your Riders of Rohan moment", and wish there was more to that system. Imagine if there were techs that let you upgrade the number and quality of those troops, like how the Skaven can upgrade their Vermintide armies.
My only complaint about that system is the seige battles are pretty much over by the time you get to play them, though I supposed that was the 2 version, idk how 3 is with it
I only remember being given some guys, spawning next to Norscans, and immediately being overrun by Skinwolves and being forced back off the map before my guys could get a shot off.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Yeah it's either that or you can't get to the fight before your allies are dead. Meanwhile, auto-resolve is almost always a victory.
Or make it like the Cathayen Caravan system, only instead of sending them around the world for riches you assign them a rough area of the empire to protect, where they can join battles of empire armies. Slowly getting better and stronger. But well, there is a lot of empires and you have only so many reserve armies. Do you help in the battle now, and see the capital fall because your army is still healing up? do you shift them to Nordland so the Norsca raids stop being D-Day and start being Dieppe? Do you try to keep Vlad into Sylvania for a bit longer.
The empire Karl Franz campaign is what made me download over a 100 mods in III. No regrets to be honest. Having a way to make us of over 20 different knight orders and using my prestige for buffs like you mentioned makes Me feel immersed
He's my favourite character and he needs a serious update. I need to check out mods for him.
My empire campaigns usually follow the same formula, secure reikland, kill marienberg for the port, farm authority in middenheim from festus and the beastmen burning it down all the time.
As luck would happen, I have just finished a Legendary Franz campaign. I managed to get a relatively quick kill on both Kazrak and Festus, confederated Gelt early, and Vlad just sorta died for no reason. Aside from the fact that I rolled a Death wizard instead of literally anything else, a real blessed run.
I love playing Reikland in TWW. Such a great selection of units, so many fun ways to build an army, and Franz being the chaddest chad that has ever chadded.
Is death magic really that bad?
Or is it just not one you like very much?
@@samuelevans738 Well, I wouldn't say it's *that* bad. Like, it's still better than having no magic. I just don't think it works as well with Franz' campaign as the others. He's an excellent brawler lord with gunpowder units in his starting army, so Spirit Leech and Fate of Bjuna is just not as valuable. Purple Sun is expensive and unreliable, and you can expect to be fighting a lot of undead, who don't really care about leadership bombs.
Some would argue that the Beast wizard is worse, but at least that one gets manticore summons and a griffin mount on a unit roster that's very low on flying units. The various buffs are also good for supporting your rather underwhelming infantry, or giving your Reiksguard a bit more "oomph" on the charge.
As for the schools not mentioned yet, I'd say Fire and Life are the best, followed by Heavens, then Light and Shadow.
Having Franz late game with all his items and upgrades is just amazing. Sending him in to to beat the piss out of the enemy lord never gets old.
"Snorri thinks young Pancreasedbulwark does not understand how vestments work if he thinks they will be returned to him. Silly manling."
5:48 Essentially an American Icon.
Imperium: what is that?? A daemon?! Oh no! We are doomed! The emperor has forsaken us! We must blow up entire planet's so no one can ever learn of this disaster!
Empire: square tf up chaos thots
For anyone who want to play the Empire, I strongly suggest the Volkmar campaign. It is not really hard and they replace the elector count mechanics with gathering the books of Nagash.
One of pivotal points of what makes Pancreasnowork videos are so enjoyable to me that it's a good break from the meticulously and overtly serious Warhammer 40K lore analyses videos (especially videos akin to Luetin09 which often defends the status quo of currently available lores so much) which often regurgitate the same lore progression unless new stuffs (sometimes through leaks) happening, even biggest gacha games' progress their lores much faster than GW's previous years' lore "movement and progression", so much of "The End Times"
It's like the off-cam and American (with somehow less entrepreneur-minded) version of Majorkill, plus with more references of stuffs outside GW that doesn't involve real talk self-esteem, but Majorkill is still great nonetheless, he insists to think that there's always sense of W40K entire lore despite the stupidly vomiting amount of (expensive) scarce lores and ambiguity at least before current GW-era of lore-progression
Keep up the great Warhammer work alongside the general eloquence for promoting Warhammer Fantasy settings, Mr Pancreas (your halo references are great too)
For those looking to start an Empire army on tabletop, for AoS Cities of Sigmar or for the Old World when that comes out, there are a number of third party manufacturers that can supply Empire models more cheaply than buying from GW.
Setting aside 3D printing or resin model stores, which are cost-effective for big important models but less good for rank-and-file on a per-model basis, I'd recommend two manufacturers of plastic kits. Because historical plastics are among the most economical models to get in this hobby.
The first is the Landsknecht model range from Warlord Games. The Empire of Man is based on the Landsknecht, so it makes sense to go straight to the source. They have individual kits for each of the standard infantry modes you want (Pikes, Zweihanders + Halberds, Rifles + Crossbows), though that means you'll need to plan out your purchases depending on what you need. They've also got metal models, which can be good to peruse if you need officers or other cool additions that strike your fancy. Albeit at metal prices. Speaking of price, you'll be paying a premium for delivery costs if you're ordering outside the UK, and especially if you're outside North America.
The second is a personal favorite of mine, Wargames Atlantic. They've got their Conquistadors kit, which has head options for more continental troops. You'll generally get fewer models per kit (24 versus an average of 30 for Warlord Games), but that kit has all the weapon options included therein. No having to think, just grab a bunch of them. Which you're encouraged to do, as WA has both free worldwide shipping for orders over $50 US (the lowest I've seen among major mini manufacturers), AND discounts for buying the same kit in bulk. It really comes down to how much extraneous bits you want to end up with. Wargames Atlantic also has a Landsknecht Ogres kit, for if you want/can field some Ogre mercenaries (or if you want the Ogres on their own, for Ogre Kingdoms/Ogor Mawtribes).
"The only perfect human to ever exist" is real bold words for a setting with Settra as an active character.
Welp, I'm looking forward to the Do or Don't for Kislev, with the most obvious lore negative being "If you don't like bears, you don't want Kislev. They're not as bad as the Space Wolves, but bears are fucking everywhere. The only one of their characters, lords or heroes, who doesn't have a bear mount is Ulrika, both kinds of war sleds are pulled by bears, YOU GET THE IDEA?"
Update: yeah, Mother Ostankya and the Hag Witches all exist, but they're DLC content and Shadows of Change turned out to be garbage DLC in its original release state.
Bretonnia has the whole "acting honorable" etc.. but the key difference between the Honorable Bretonnia and the Empire is that one is a feudal society, preventing peasants from moving up in the ladder, while the empire still is merit based and a peasant could get out of the situation of being a peasant.
Karl always answered when I called; Sigmar is a bit of a prick but he gets the job done.
i highly reccomend the mixus legendary lord mod it makes all of the elector counts into unique legendary lords which adds sooo much variety to the game- elspeth von draken is my personal favourite
I love that during the whole shtick about the negatives about the Elector Counts, he's kept Todbringer's glorious face on the screen for most of it.
Do I play Total War? No. Do I actually care about Warhammer Fantasy? No. Will I watch a PancreasNoWork video about it? Every time.
not only are the elector counts just speed bumps to Vlad, but they also make it so that when he does reach Altdorf, he does it with a stack of grave guard, blood knights and other monsters instead of full stack of skellies and his 3 starting grave guard.
those ECs will create big piles of corpses for him to choose from.
The elector counts are sadly enough complete pushovers. Hopefully that will be rectified somewhat with ToD. They don’t all need unique models but I do feel there needs to be a bit more faction individuality and the AI need to not be as stupid with how it recruits armies
I played Empire in tabletop and I approve this message.
Faith. Steel. Gunpowder.
While 40K is obviously far more popular, fantasy and the empire of man have a special place in my heart!
Maybe not that important, but:
-There is a mod to add Snorri Nosebiter by PinkPonyKnight
-Other to add Gotrek and Felix as one unit (two entities, one space in the army) call Ye Olde Skool Gotrek and Felix! by Chapter Serf
Just in case 😉😉
15:45
I see our sugarless lord has spent his time on the unterzee, how appropriate for the empire.
You know, I had one pretty good campaign with the empire. Got all the provinces, bulldozed marienburg into servitude, kept the bretonnians out my arse and sicced them at the dark elves/shadow legion and purged Vlad out of existence. When I was thinking of going to help the dwarves the end times event hit and chaos started to pour from every inch of land I didn't control. While I like the challenge, fighting and killing Archeon EVERY THREE TURNS turns into a chore very fast. And the only way I found to stop that is colonizing Norsca, and BY SIGMAR I HATE THAT PLACE!
Still did it though. Kicked every single chaos faction into oblivion to get my final victory but MAN chaos invasion overstays it's welcome.
"the empire being under constant threat early game is the worst part" uh no it's the best part. Fighting tooth and nail to unite the empire, then conqure the world is the appeal.
We need Total War 40K, they clearly have a good basis to accurately portray Guilliman's headache trying to pull the Imperium's shit together judging by how well they did it with the Empire.
40k is way too technologically advanced for a total war game, there’s a reason we have HOI4 instead of Total World War 2, the system is build around columns of men charging or using primitive ranged weapons that require reloading after just one shot.
@@georgestoebig105 So only the tau don't work?
@@woomod2445 I take it you have never read the rest of my comment, but none of the factions work. Eldar are about hit and runs, Imperium relied on WW1 tactics, Space marines don’t sit in tight square formations slowly matching at the enemy, etc. Fantasy worked great since it shared the warfare style of total war games but if you’ve ever played a single total war game, you’d realize that it’s type of strategy and fighting are far too medieval for a science fiction setting. Also, you can’t give everyone an automatic weapon in total war, the game would be buggy as shit.
@@georgestoebig105 I was making a joke about 40k's love of melee.
Would love to see more Do or Don't's on TWW3, great game!
40k imperium is like: You doesn't like eating algae and 18 hour shifts in your slave pit? To the adeptus mechanicus you go! You will make a great servitor!
"They will lose in melee against Chaos (and the Orks as well I might add) and they will lose in an artillery duel against the Dwarfs..."
... but they still kick Bretonia's ass in a cavalry duel (see: Zerkovich, Total war 1v1) and that's hilarious! 😂 Demygriph knights won a 1v1 against Pegasus knights even though the latter is a flying unit so the Demygriphs couldn't do anything against the initial charge and just took it like champs... and still managed to win in the end.
THE EMPIRE ENDURES! ⚔️💀💪
7:15 SHORT there'll be no alliance with the elves while I'm high king
I cannot wait to watch your "Do or Don't: Bretonnia" video.
7:15 SHORT !?
Your Karl franz vs the world happened exactly to me but with Arkhan instead. My army of humble nehekaran warriors managed to kill all the monsters and cavalry so it was a fun fortymi uses of arkhan pimping out spirit leeches onto heroes, skeleton summons into cycle and flanking charges, Arkhan the Black killed 2600 skeletons of varied types (including tomb guard) of these lesser tomb kings.
And because my mate thought I couldn't do it I got a free curse of the vampire coast dlc as a bet
i find it funny, while playing as festus in immortal empires, you can force vassal the nearest empire faction, and get empire units as a garrison units.
was fun having a slow army while you also get ranged fire power.
even tho its just crossbows or just basic bowmen.
An artillery duel with dwarfs is actually pretty winnable. The hellstorm rocket battery can easily take out everything besides cannons. Dwarf cannons do win unless you manage to fire at the same time (50 range advantage).
I don't know in gameplay, but in lore, dwarves are more focused on reliability and precision, while the Empire was focused on innovation and mass production.
In TWW2, I always loved play as the Empire. In 3 though, as Franz, there's too many enemies with too little coordination to keep the Empire intact for any length of time. I'm not saying you can't deal with all of it given enough time, but I spend a lot of time lamenting hitting the next button and going, "What is it now?!" and sprinting half way across the map to MAYBE get there in time before everything falls apart.
By turn 5-10, Hochland WILL be destroyed and Middenland will be in shambles. By turn 25-30, the Vampires and either the tree huggers or the orc version of Big Chungus will be knocking on your back door liking a word. By turn 50, if you haven't dealt with the Vampires, IKEA and all of its Swedish meatball tribes start massacring Norldand, Kislev, Osterland, and if you're luck Marienburg.
I rarely get to confederate the entire empire even if I just forget Hochland exists and I want to say it takes to about turn 160. The thing is, diplomacy for the Empire has been relatively easy in TWW2 and I feel the thing that hobbles it in 3 the most is not being about to make alliances or outposts. If Creative Assembly doesn't want me to confederate the entire Empire by like turn 50 and create the Ordertide or whatever, then make succession a possibility and prestige a way to maintain it. Maybe even resource buildings for prestige, and something similar to scrap upgrades for troops or something like an edict that gives me faction buffs after the long process of it being fully confederated.
Finding a khorne mechanic "infuriating". Truly lore accurate design
By Sigmar, my body is ready!!
Great video, also the Improved Electoral Machinations mod allows you to spend prestige to get defensive or military alliances with the elector counts and even spend it to improve authority or fealty.
THE NATION CALLS!
Guarrente there's going to be an entire section just to Karl Franz.
Karl Franz is an Emperor who actually does something instead of sitting on his throne like that fossil from 40k or slacking off up high in his floating sky palace like that old dragon of Cathay. That’s all that is needed to say.
Incredible, and also tragic. There was a time that The Empire had an army on tabletop.
"Sigmarch" I like it.
You can't unwatch the video... jesus christ man I have never been more called out by a youtuber, well fucking done.
'Stuck on an island being invaded by their asshole cousins'
Yes but humanity is its own asshole cousin so we pretty much draw with the elves on that front.
Had to quit my job today because lack of empathy from my bosses. So thank you for uploading this video it made my day a little bit better
Can't wait for the Free Guild Guard Do or Don't. Also greetings from Puerto Rico.
When asked about what makes a good Empire numerous voices claimed different things. “Diplomacy” “Magic” “Infrastructure” all of these are wrong, yet every citizen under our fair Empire knows the 3 tenets by which we live and thrive. Faith, Steel, and Gunpowder. For the Empire and Franz brother
love that you're using age of empires music
Oh yeah, Karl Franz technically needs some mooks under him to do his thing, doesn't he ?
"They ARE just regular humans." Bro, that is in NO way a downside. I'm a 40k Guard man, I don't even like spoice marines 'cause there's nothing exciting about super soldiers doing super things. When an Elysian without backup and half his promised equipment accomplishes his mission, THAT is a story.
The Empire might be the boring "some dude" faction like the imperial guard, but at least they arnt so cowardly they need a guy in a funny hat to point a gun at them so they don't run from danger
An apartment building in Stalingrad is the best description of Hochland I've heard thus far XD
Pancreas: Warhammer fantasy is better than 40k
Empire of man: Let's give our territories random lands and ad the word 'land' at the end
1:20 now that's how hyped you are!!
Loving the Sunless Sea music youre using, nearly forgot about that game
19:58 ahh mentioning good ole kruber being a bit of a dissenter, always funny to hear saltspyre basically threaten to kill kruber then and there for going against the established order. honestly i would love to see a vermintide video from you. vermintide II especially mixes the fantastical and silly elements of warhammer (the plot of the game is literally and unironically "a elf, a dwarf, a witch hunter and his soldier buddy, and a fire wizard walk into a bar")while still portraying an underlying sense of dread of what is to come. honestly one of the better representations of the end times lore.
i mean obviously its different to what you usually cover because vermintide games literally don't change the plot of the end times at all, and really focus on individuals that aren't important or that powerful compared to some in the world, but still, a video on why it works compared to how every other part of end times lore (minus settra being an absolute gigachad telling the gods of hell to fuck off as the world ends around him) falls flat. vermintide II for me you really get to see in person the hell the empire is going through. its not skimped quickly to focus on world shattering battles like how the books are, its not just simplified as a settlement being raised in the total war games, you get to see the very visceral destruction of entire townscapes. it focuses on the small forgotten about civilians being masacred and less powerful heroes trying their best, which for me makes the ubersriek 5 feel more humanized and real for how someone would react given the scenario. even the annoying kerillian, who despite being arrogant still gets her moments of character development
To me the greatest appeal of the Empire, and Dwarfs to an extent, is that they are most similar to my favorite era of Total War games....the gunpowder era. I long for Total War: Empire 2 so I can decimate my foes with canons, and hope guns are more like those in Fall of the Samurai, they generally hit what they aim at and kill what they hit. The Empire in Warhammer will have to do in the meantime.
Ooooo are you doing videos like this for each faction in total war warhammer? Cause that would be AWESOME!!!!
You forgot handgunners and crossbowmen not shooting when I order them to. 😂
Granted, this action might not have their consent, but damn does it hurt.
If we’re gonna be seeing more Total Warhammer videos, how long before we hit either High Elves or Wood Elves?
Sigmar bless you, for this very entertaining and very precise description of the Baston of hope an courage ✠💀✠
The entire Warhammer 40k universe is contained inside a bottle on a shelf inside the tower of a wizard in Altdorf, or so one story tells.
Okay great news! I was able narrow down the number subscribers you had when I subscribed. I subscribed on April 9, 2022 and the number of subscribers you had at the time was about 36-37k.
"Snorri Nosebiter makes me cry whenever I think about him"
Ya know when I first watched this video I hadn't finished G&F yet but now :(
WELCOME TO ESTALIA GENTLEMEN. I WILL NOT LIE, THE CHANCES OF YOUR SURVIVAL ARE SMALL. SOME MAY EVEN TURN AGAINDT YOUR FRIENDS AS LIVING CORPSES- BUT YOU HAVE MY WORD, THAT I SHALL USE MY ARCANE GIFTS TO ENSURE YOUR BODIES ARE GIVEN UP TO MOR'S GARDEN. THIS IS THE GREATEST REWARD, MORE THAN EVEN GOLD, FOR THE FATE OF YOUR SOUL IS AN ETERNAL CONCERN. NOW COME, FOLLOW ME, STROKE DOWN THE UNDEAD THAT RISE AGAINST US. ALLOW ME TO FIND THIS ELDRITCH AMULET. I ASK NOT FOR MY OWN SELFISH STUDIES, BUT FOR THE GOOD OF THE EMPIRE.
Watching this video after the empire overhaul in the last dlc is kinda wholesome. They exactly fixed all the con points about hte prestige mechanic