Siemens - Taurus nice starting sound train 4K
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2015
- Siemens Taurus locomotive with a passenger train in the main station of Wien (Hauptbahnhof). You can hear the sound do-re-mi-fa-sol when the locomotive starts.
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The engineers at Siemens are just showin' off now.
They are showing off to the ladies sitting lok
Haha 😂😂😂 so true
Isn't the Taurus build by Voith?
@@NicMediaDesign no, siemens
I always wanted to listen to 4K sound...
What kind of instrument do you play?
Me: Locomotive
😂😂
Keikyu N1000 Series
Is siemens semen?
i love the sound of electric locomotive, if anyone tells me otherwise i will uhhh
commit make person dead
@@therosijedha Same here
Austria is a big country for music. Even trains can play.
Wiener Philharmoniker...
Yeah but no. If its classical then yes, modern stuff.... just give me cheap offbrand crappy version of almdudler instead of that.
🤣
And painters!
@@alexanderivkin7086 austrian painters are the best!
Holy damn... When I was playing that train on simulator, I thought that developers were too lazy to add real like sound effects... But this is the real sound???
Yes. These locomotives are very popular in central Europe. If you spend 20 minutes at any bigger train station, there is a high chance of hearing one of these Siemens locomotives. When I was going to work with train, I always sat in the very end of my train, because I knew that on the next line a Siemens locomotive will arrive about 3 minutes before my train starts 😀
@@FFmybest Mostly in Austria, they are nearly only using this one (also one of the video). It is even an special locomotive for Austrian railway
@@bae146forever3 yes, everywhere, where ÖBB and Railjet goes :)
same shit there
i never thought that too , but yes :DDD
Wait. That was the train making that stepping sound?? I was thinking in my head "Man I wish that saxophone player would shut the hell up so I can listen to the train."
Variable frequency drive (VFD). Basically, it's better to start an AC motor with low frequency current and increase it as the train accelerates.
@@adamk203 I know. It's the pulse width modulation adjusting for higher frequency. But it sounded so in tune as if someone was playing a saxophone. I didn't realize it was the IGBT sound until it hit the sustained final note.
@@juanzingarello4005 Yes they can adjust it quite accurately, and can practically make any sound or tone-ladder. However they can't eliminate the sound, thats why they try to steer it into something pleasant.
@@adamk203 oh, i thought locomotives used dc motors.
@@therosijedha Old ones do, yes, with the old carbon-based brushes as well. New motors are basically your typical 3-phase motors but with a much higher voltage (basically overhead wire voltage, which can be anywhere from 1.5kV to 25kV).
And in this case, engineers at Siemens wanted to have some fun so they designed the IGBTs to sound like a tone ladder when the locomotive is starting to roll.
Even though this locomotive is already 20+ years old it's probably still one of my favorites. The musical acceleration, the speed it can achieve, it's versatility and its sleek modern design that's absolutely timeless. A+ job Siemens.
Even the brakes sound nice when they release. Hearing those IGBT's singing, sounds so much more natural than the class 353, which makes a weird screaming noise when they move away.
I know this comment is a year old but the ES64U2 is still using GTO Thyristors. IGBTs are used in the Siemens ES64U4 and the new Vectron series. Sadly they don't sound very nice :(
@@sl4sht4g I know this comment is a year old but can you give me any vids to show the difference?
@@applefanXXX ruclips.net/video/amcitdCEiPQ/видео.html
The Video Quality is not very good but the sound is very clear. Usually IGBT Inverters have a higher pitched sound than GTO based Inverters since IGBTs allow higher switching frequencies to be used.
That's the motor, not IGBT. Trust me, IGBT makes such noise only at its EOL.
@@ElectrifiedStud yes, the hearable sound is emitted by vibrations in the coils and parts in the motor. The Inverter only generates the frequencies that cause these vibrations. I forgot to say that in my previous comment, sorry if there were any misunderstandings.
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exatcly
Yes.
You really got the point.
Xiaomiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii XDDD
Its DO-RE-MI-FA-ZO-LA-SI-DOOOOO
The sound is not just accidental! It happens because the electronics convert the incoming power to a specific frequency to drive the motors when accelerating, which then make a sound.
It could have been any sequence of notes, but they chose this one because it sounds pleasant :)
In case anybody is wondering, that is a G mixolydian scale, or basically a G major scale but the F# is natural.
With a lovely portamento right at the end! :o)
(Apart from Austrians. Apparently they know.)
Aaah yes. The first part did indeed sound major to me but the end confused me so I figured it would be one of the modes. Thanks!
What I think is interesting is how they surely must've sort-off intentionally done this. They could've just not used 12-tone equal temperament tuning and gone with frequencies determined by some other method. But instead it's perfectly musical
Thanks partner!
The sound of this Siemens inverter is like a sound of a violin, but the sound of Siemens inverter of Keikyu Train in Japan is more comfortable. This is absolute.
Nope. Too fast.
Also JR east E501 series before switched to IGBT
@@SchweinAusStein E501 series sounds a bit slower
This man has it right. Nothing beats this. ruclips.net/video/b4AMDiYV4PU/видео.html
Keikyu 1000 sounds similar but it’s too fast
Commuter: 🚉🏃🏻♂️
ÖBB: 🎻🎶
I am in Austria and hear this sound everyday. Twice.
Pendelst du immer mit dem Zug?
Can it play all star.?
TODOR brassmonger Official ft. cloudance in theory - yes
What about raining blood by slayer?
Meme-r
*s o m e b o d y o n c e t o l d m e*
@@fillo7218 The world is gonna roll me
It was time for Thomas to leave.
He had listened to everything.
Cinders and ashes I want to see the world
Btw, for those out of the loop, that’s not an artificial sound made by some speakers on the loco. That’s the sound the electrical motors in the trucks make. Each sound level corresponds with a “notch” on the throttle.
Not with the notch on the throttle. the throttle determines 'demand' that the driver sets. An electronic module then sets the actual power (supply) sent to the traction motors, to prevent motor burnout. It's not a direct connection between the throttle position and the 'note' of the motors.
The notes are determined by the speed
The notes are determined by the carrier frequency on the IGBT. this is called a VVVF driver
Do you want to have a locomotive or a musical instrument?
Siemens: YES
makes more sense now, nice! :D
According to wikipedia: "When switching on from a standing position, a noise can be heard that is reminiscent of playing through a scale on a tenor saxophone . It is created in the three-phase motors by activating the converters . The noise is twice the clock frequency of the pulse- controlled inverter , which is increased in stages.
The frequency changes in whole and semitone steps over two octaves from d to d ″ in the tone stock of the main tones . It is a Doric scale on the root note D.
This makes it possible that when the wheel sets are thrown (for example due to wet rails) a four-part start-up tone is produced". But I hear it starts from note G: 0:14
There is a video from one of these things hauling a seriously heavy freight train getting into trouble on a steep mountain hill in (if I recall correctly) Austria and upon having come to a standstill trying to get away.
You hear it rapidly cycling through the notes mentioned upon trying to come back up to speed.
By the way, I think the lower notes are definitely there, but are not distinguishable from the background noise, and at times when I've seen these pull away in video's they cycle through the first steps so quickly you'd almost miss it.
Starts on F just before at 00:14 on the dot. F lydian.
@@edmedmoped bro that shit mixolydian 👌
@@captuelli No he's right, you can just barely hear the F over the background noise.
@@toebs_ ah you might be right. This has been my favorite RUclips comment argument ever. Thank you and safe travels
I must confess: I looked round for the saxophonist playing scales the first time I heard this on a visit to Berlin.
And the second time. And third time...
The last time I heard anything so musically impressive must've been when Japan had Siemens AC systems on their Keikyu N1000 units. Man, it sounded like a symphony when those things started up. :)
Since its made by the same company they might use a similar systems
the MR63 Jeumont sets were also musical.
The Bombardier T1’s are somewhat like that too.
Wow! I never knew trains could do this!! Thanks youtube for recomending this to me!
Every time when i was at the TrainStation in germany i thought someone is playing a instrument until i realized it’s from the trains
Gotta love VFDs...
It goes sharp at the end haha xD
Lol!!
need tuning
It's not a standard diatonic major scale; some said it's Doric, some other said mixolydian.
@@PanduPoluan I think it's mixolydian.
Knowing Siemens they probably made sure the inverter steps were pleasantly harmonic. Going to do a job, do it well.
I hope this gives some clarifcation: The overhead line voltage is rectified into Direct Current (DC). Between the DC stage and the traction motor is an inverter. This inverter feeds the traction motor with a pulse-shaped voltage. This is because the power-semiconductors in the DC to AC inverter can only change between conducting and not-conducting (on or off). By applying pulse-width modulation to the on/off state of the semiconductors, voltages are simulated that result in a traction-motor current as if the motor was connected to a "normal" three phase AC supply from a grid. It is true that the rotational speed of the motor is determined by the (simulated) frequency of the supply voltage/current. During the acceleration, not only the frequency of the voltage has to change, but also the magnitude. (This is to keep the magnetic fieldstrength in the motor roughly constant). This is also done by modifying the pulse-pattern. All this "modulated-pulsing" can result in the sounds like in this video. :-) In recent years big advancements in power-semiconductor technology were made: from the thyristor, to the Gate turn-off thyristor, to the IGBT. The advantage of this all is that the robust three-phase AC induction motor can be used, instead of a motor with a commutator and a complicated armature winding.
Siemens created the perfect train
Absolutely lovely :)
I was so lucky to have actually witnessed this a multiple times during my recent visit to Austria. Thank God i took the trains!!
Sounds so relaxing. I like to hang out at train station just to hear the engine acceleration.
Beautiful commuter train. The red engine with black trim is gorgeous
Super, very nice catch!!!
I love this Sound ❤️
The loco produced the mixolydian scale (major scale with flatened 7th note), and it did that in tune. I'm blown away
Absolutely magnificent. I love the Siemens ES64U2
Her: "Do you play any instruments?"
Me: "I play the ÖBB."
Her: "You mean the oboe?"
Me: "No."
Her: *visible confusion*
Me:
Can watch this over and over!
This is why I love Siemens
A great way to attract passengers!
I actually thought the first time I watched, there was background music. Awesome!
Just around two years ago I could always hear the same sound every time local train stopped at the station near me - but from a kilometer away! - I always called it the music train..
(For anyone wondering it was a regular S-Bahn in Dresden maybe they shared a similarly engineered train)
Great departure!!
woow, thats soo cool!!!
I have a sewing machine that has a digital “accelerator”. This makes it increase speed in increments that almost sound like notes. Singer 7444 Precision model.
This also allows it to complete every individual stitch when you take your foot off the petal. That way, you don’t have the needle stopping halfway through a stitch, which happens often on traditional machines.
Ottimo video.
I've never seen a double decker train, awesome!
Awesome.....
Beautiful looking train
So they make trains in 4K resolution now. Impressive!
Nice sound!
Wow that's a beautiful train😍🥰
Beautiful
It`s amazing!!!
Music to my ears! ♥️
it started as a simple scale but swelled into a jazzy crescendo
....That is really nice
Nice
Wow! That's incredible. I thought for a second this was just edited.
Siemens trains are crazy. In Brazil, CPTM 3000 series train make violin noise.
I lived right next to a train station before in Budapest, and I absolutely loved when Tauruses were doing there little organ thingy, as I called it. :D Sadly they were very rare. :/
When i was in Vienna, we wait for our chartered bus near the central train station and since the train station also resembles a mall i thought there's an open cinema playing Sony Columbia Pictures intro.
Very nice
Cool
Great video! 👍👍👍Like!
wow that`s so cool
Obejrzałem to już chyba że sto razy i czuję że obejrzę przynajmniej jeszcze raz tyle
Yes, the sound is pretty interesting. Nice to see that on RUclips xD
This is high quality content
I heard those trains sometimes at Singen am Hohentwiel station and it's quite cool.
Wow those trains are kept clean.
nice
0:20 At this point, it's like the Columbia movie production company intro music.
Beat me to it :)
Good one
The trains are alive, with the sound of muuuuuusiiiic.
Theres a train in Japan that has a very similar sounding start up sound when it accelerates. I forgot the model name of the train but it makes a very cute singing sound
You mean the Keikyu N1000
It's the lydian mode, even with F as root note, which means it would even neatly follow only the white keys on a piano. So perfect.
Good try, but wrong. Note the minor third and the B-natural. It's a D-Dorian scale spanning two octaves, basically all the white keys on a piano from D4 through D6.
@@RobbieHatley You're right, if you listen very closely there are actually two notes before the first F (D and E), so it starts on D. But seeing that you can only hear the white piano keys, it could in theory actually be any one of the modes. The first note is a D though, so I would also rather say dorian than lydian. You are a sharp listener!
Patrick:Is a train an instrument ?
Austrians:
I like it
wow..sond is goooood!
Wow wow wow 😍😍😍
I thought train sim world had buggered up the sound on these trains, only now just seen this and realized that that's what they actually sound like
what a great ,,singer" !
Nice 😂
Ich hab einige Jahre lang gegenüber vom wismarer Bahnhof gewohnt. Die erste Zeit dachte ich echt, es lernt jemand nachts Geige spielen, aber er hat immer nur eine tonleiter gespielt. Irgendwann hab ichs gepeilt...
mna the taurus feels so innocent with the first tones, but then at the last one, you feel just how powerfull it actually is
DO RE MI FA SOL LA SI DO!!! =D so cool, a pianist playing inside the train ;)
No. Note the minor third! It's actually Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do-Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do-Re. (D-Dorian.)
Aha
Sadly the new trains dont have this sound effect anymore. it is missing. I miss it as much as I missed the Apple Chime in the 2000's.
The best number 1 Locomotive sound with melody in the world that is Taurus 😍👍
They also supply the same type of motors for Japan's famous "singing trains."
京浜急行とは一味違うドレミVVVF
Musician: I’m world renown for my Mozart on Piano.
Me: Get on my level, three words-
Darude, Sandstorm, Locomotive 😏
The train and Mozart are both from Austria, so....😂
Schöne Saubere Station :D Davon können wir bei uns nur Träumen ^^
That sound is caused by the IGBT's firing on the VFD system that makes the electric motors speed up and slow down.
Insulated-gate bipolar transistor and variable frequency drive - Simulated here: reviseomatic.org/rOmV4/rOmV4/page/322/Timing_555_Motor_Speed
theloudbloke i
Is that why dutch trains are so loud when they begin to move?
@@graythewolf6096 Probably
@@graythewolf6096 yes
do re mi fa so la si do :D
Close, but not quite. It's in D-Dorian, spanning two octaves, so it's actually Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do-Re-Mi-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do-Re. Basically the white keys on the piano from D4 through D6.
How do you drive a train like Maria Von Trapp?
“do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-doooeeeEEEEEEEEEE”
the every taurus have one item for unhot motor so its signing this what is on czech republic : DO-RE-Mi-FA-ZO-LA-SI-DOOOOOO!!
thanks so much for like
More like DOoOOoOo haha
Pardon my enthusiasm, but I think it actually starts of with Sol (or Zo as you said); that's actually: Sol-La-Si-Do-Re-Me-Fa....
@@jzolghadr It actually starts with Re, and goes two octaves up to Re again. So it's actually two octaves in Dorian mode, starting from D(3). The lowest notes are hard to hear from outside, though. Find an Austrian cab ride video and you'll hear it better. (Not linking here to not get spam-filtered. One example can be found with a title "Führerstandsmitfahrt (Neue) Unterinntalbahn Innsbruck - Wörgl".)
Sol La Si Do Ra Mi Fa Sol La Si Do Ra…........
The reason they make those sounds is very similar to the reason why the
MR-73 Montreal metro fleet go "dou dou dou." The voltage required to
power the motors is lower than that coming from the third
rail/centenary. A device called a pulse with modulator breaks down the
voltage to levels tolerable for the motors. That's the thing that
produces those sounds.
SA RE GA MA PA DA NE SA 😍👌
Wow
Sad to know that the 3rd generation (ÖBB 1216) doesnt have that sound anymore. Only the 1016 and 1116 play that nice sound
I drive an Alstom corradia lirex at work, you can hear the motor emf on the radio at LW and MW :P
Since when does the Coradia Lirex operate in normal services? The Lirex was just a test train, I think you're talking about the Coradia Continental
@@velarod3961 technically its called nordic but it is the platform developed for the lirex.