Recording with the Alesis Strike Pro - Part II Using Midi
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- In part one, I looked at recording with the line out and individual outs, this video shows a few things:
0:45 - How to hook up the Strike to your computer
1:30 - Strike module settings that are important to look at
6:03 - Midi-mapping considerations (using the Logic drummer and Steven Slate SSD 5 plugin)
10:23 - Summary
More details about the midi settings, including screenshots of midi settings and more detailed descriptions from the Strike module:
cleverdood.ca/2020/11/22/recor...
Drum plugins:
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Slate Drums: stevenslatedrums.com/ssd5/ (Always on sale for about $60 USD)
EX Drummer: www.toontrack.com/product/ezd... (free trial - you have to create an account, and $130 to $180 USD)
10 free drum plugins (From Landr.com) - blog.landr.com/free-vst-plugi...
Part I - Recording with the Strike audio outputs
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• Recording with the Ale...
EP where I recorded the drums with the Strike Pro:
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Jason - wonderful tutorial that I have spent hours looking for guidance about. It's finally completely clear and working. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
Thankyou, love my alesis strike pro and it's very fun and extremely versatile.
Oh man this is so awesome. I've been looking for something like this forever. I wanna get one to write midi tracks for demos cuz I hate programming fills and stuff. Just so much easier to play.
Super helpful tutorial, thanks so much
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks. Great explanation.
Very Helpful!!!
I have my kit plugged straight into my computer using the USB option, and I was wondering how to program the open and closed hi hat. The sound the hi hat makes is the same regardless of whether my foot is closing the hat. Any one able to help?
Can anyone help me figure out how to midi into the alesis to sequence the sounds. As opposed to hitting the pads. Ive got ableton set up to send out the midi but the alesis isnt making sounds. This was after recording the midi from the pads. So im sure they are on the right keys to trigger the sounds in the alesis. Cant find anything about this online about sequencing a drum module.
Hi. How do I map the strike kit to a midi connected keyboard? I want to line up the drum sounds on my keyboard with the ones assigned to the pads on the Alesis. So when I play back a sequence from my keyboard it triggers the correct drum sounds on the strike kit. The standard midi drum notes are not lined up and I need to know how to do that. Thank you.
Hey I just bought this kit. Does the kick drum buzz when you hit it? I tightened the heads but it didn’t seem to help. I don’t want to over crank so I’m asking around.
Mine doesn’t buzz.
you can also use the line outs into an interface for recording, which is how I do it....into my mixer....which is also an interface and standalone recorder. FYI
me too, that was in the Part I video...
i have a dm10 kit and use it with BFD3 on my computer.. any comment if it would be worth to upgrade to this kit if I still plan on only using it to trigger drum software and record via midi?
I think it would only be worth it if you want to change the feel of the playing experience (bigger pads, better dynamics etc)
Great tutorial, perhaps you can help me understand how to save a midi note change on the strike module. When I change a note so it maps to ezdrummer - it never saves . Can't find any info on where to save the change I make. Thanks
I created a 'midi' kit on my strike and changed the notes on the Strike module to match the Logic notes.
Bro IM using strike pro SE then connect to superior drummer 3 but there's delay..
Looking to pick up an alesis strike multipad, would this be close to the same process?
it should be
How can I record the sounds from the Strike Module using midi ? I know I can record the sounds from the individual outputs of the module but how can I record midi and have it trigger the Strike Module sounds opposed to Drum Plug-in in the DAW???
You can't. Midi is not audio. Midi is a trigger to play audio on your computer. If you want to record the strike module sounds, then you must use the stereo out or the 8 channel outputs to get the audio from the module.
Jason,
I just ran across your video today. I don't want to record but I want to change drum kits using the 5 pin midi and a midi foot controller while playinglive onstage. I just want to advance to the next kit in my user kits. How can I accomplish this. I will be using the Beringer 1010 midi foot controller? Thanks.
hmm, that's a good question. I haven't tried that and I actually just sold my Strike kit as we moved recently! I would assume a midi note can be assigned to the 'change kit' option somehow. I did find this in the manual: Note: You can send MIDI program change messages to your Strike module's MIDI input or USB port. Thenumbers of program change messages correspond to the kits listed in the current folder. Alternatively, send MIDI CC #118 to increment by one kit or MIDI CC #119 to decrement by one kit
Can’t thank you enough for this! Were you able to get audio from the Alesis module to input into logic via usb? Or just use it as a midi controller?
it's only a midi controller which is a bummer as the Strike sounds are great. The newer Roland modules (TD-27 and up??), EFNote and Mimic Pro modules support audio over USB though.
@@cleverdood thanks ! Came to that realization yesterday however the SSD5 seem promising too
I am just messing around with the strike pro SE kit and plugins on my old laptop. Strike connects and communicates well with Ableton and the plugins I run, but not Logic
But when I try to open a software instrument on Logic, everything works for about 5 seconds and the signal disappears. No audio .
Midi is still being transferred, as I can record notes on the grid. Even playing back those recorded notes are audible.
I have auto monitor selected and software instrument monitoring selected.
I can't figure out what the issue is. Any ideas ??
are you connecting via midi through an audio interface, or throuigh the USB port on the Strike?
Ok i plugged my module to my computer usb but no sound coming out. Im using studio one 4 with SSD5. Ssd5 does make sounds when i add a kit to it and click on each drum with my mouse but when i hit every drum nothing happens.
Could be a bunch of things, is your Strike module set to 'omni channel'? Logic recognizes midi devices automatically, maybe there's a setting in audio properties for S1 to enable an external midi device?
not an easy way to fix some of the issues you were encountering, but you can go into the midi environment of logic and change all the parameters you were struggling with
Hey man, when going into the voice section on my module and fx - midi, it's not letting me customize the notes. They dont change when I hit different parts of the drum kit. it just stays on the one I had set which is 036 C1. Any tips?
I don’t have the strike anymore, but I think there is a “note chase” button on the module that you need to click.
this is a great video! I'm still having trouble with Logic Pro anyway you could help?
what kind of problem?
@@cleverdood when I plug it into my Mac and I use Logic Pro, it will ask what I wanna use and I do an instrument plug in, it will 1 pop up as a piano but will record as drums and track it fine but when I unplug my set from my computer the track is still there and it plays there is just no audio
Thanks a million
So I am using SSD 5 and I cant find out how to configure the hi-hat, any ideas?
I just mapped mine to the closed HH in SSD5. I couldn't figure out how to map it properly to get all the nuances of open/closed and everything in between.
I have my alesis connected to my MacBook via usb. Then I opened up logic, idk which type of track to use and how to get going from there !!?
Use a 'software instrument' track type and add the drum kit instrument to it and you should be all set!
Hi Jason -
hoping you can help me with an issue I am having of getting multiple midi notes registering in my DAW from a single hit on the trigger.
First, my setup:
A2E conversion kit (Gretsch Catalina shells with Remo Silentstroke mesh heads)
Jobeky internal side-mount dual zone triggers
Alesis Strike Pro module
MIDI out to Focusrite Scarlett 1818
Superior Drummer 3 VST in Studio One 5 Pro
I'm not having any issues with the kick, rack tom or hats (using a Roland VH-10 hi hat setup)
but the snare and floor tom are registering multiple MIDI notes in the DAW when recording.
After laying down a track, I see one strong note - then anywhere from 1 to 5 additional lower velocity notes.
I assume these are due to vibrations emanating from the mesh head.
Problem is, I cannot raise my threshold or retrigger settings much more in the Strike module and still maintain responsive playability.
Are there other settings I should be examining?
Is it because of the single layer mesh heads? Do I need to invest in triple layer? I have the heads pitched pretty high, so they are tight and less likely to vibrate. I have even added gaffer's tape to further inhibit vibration.
I should mention that my current trigger settings in the module work just fine when playing through the Strike, it is only when I record into the DAW that the extra MIDI notes become prevalent (perhaps they are there when playing only through the Strike, but not audibly bothersome).
It becomes quite a chore to sift through the MIDI track and delete all the extra notes.
Anyone who has had similar problems and managed to solve them, I'd love to hear from you!
Thanks in advance!
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@@cleverdood Thanks so much for addressing this! Glad to know I'm not the only one with that problem. Unfortunately, Studio One 5 doesn't offer the "transform midi" function, but perhaps it has something similar - I'll dig around.
I just switched modules from my old Roland to this one, everything works great all my hits sound good and accurate but when I open SSD5 or even Addictive Drums in reaper it plays back what I'm playing exactly when im recording, but when i go to listen back to the actual midi track i just recorded it starts missing hits especially on double kick drum patterns, its almost like it only allows every second hit, even with fast tom fills. I can see it not picking up on the midi map even though i can hear the audio while playing live....I know its picking all of these hits up perfectly before it goes into reaper If I run addictive drums standalone outside of Reaper everything records fine I've never had this problem with past modules!?? please help
It's a combination of things. Most likely it's the threshold settings. I tend to get a lot of unwanted extra kick drum hits so I crank my threshold up when playing non-double-bass stuff.
So hooked up usb. The transport part of the drum module will trigger the transport function on the recording software?
That’s a good question, I’m going to try that out. I’d assume you could midi map those controls in your DAW.
@@cleverdood im trying to move into recording drums like normal instead of the keybord layout. So whenever I would like to trigger from behind the drums instead of running back and forth. If u watch my video it might give u an idea to what im trying to accomplish. Thanks for any insight. Good video as well.
@@gringoonthabeat cool, I’ll check it out. Offhand, I record with Logic Pro X so I use the mobile app so I can control it from my phone when behind the kit. Reaper has a mobile app built in as well if you use that.
Doesn't Alesis furnish plugins for DAWs that would default to what the controllers does? Do any of the other electronic kit manufacturers furnish MIDI plugins for their kits?
I don’t think any of them have midi plugins. Most comply to the general midi set but for sets with extra pieces and/or multi-zone pads, they use different channels. I actually set my Alesis to a VDrum patch in Logic or the hi hat articulation doesn’t work right.
I have the Alesis Strike Pro SE and I've plugged my USB cable from the module to my laptop. When I record on Audacity, I can hear me hitting the pads about as loud as I hear the instruments. Why can I hear me hitting my pads? Thanks
I'd guess the audio is being recorded from your laptop mic as well. Maybe the input source is set to your mic instead of just USB?
@@cleverdood I was thinking the same but it only gives me 2 input options on the drop down, and they both record the pad hits. Not sure what to do, this is a big reason for buying the surface 3 laptop in the first place UGH 🤔!
@@JoshuaWCU try downloading the ASIO 4 ALL driver (google it) and that should allow you to have more customization for setting up inputs and outputs.
How the hell does this video not have a single comment. I have the strike pro se and this video is helping. So, does USB have any better performance than midi out to a scarlett 18i20 3rd gen?
I didn't try with a midi cable, the USB connection was instant so I didn't bother!
So if I'm gonna record each drum individual, do use the usb or the strike modul?
If you connect it via USB and record to a midi track you’ll have all the drum parts on one midi track. If you want, you can copy and paste each drum to its own track.
@@cleverdood Ok, cool.. Would you recommend using a Jack cable for each pad instead?
@@CREA9TURE I always record audio with the individual pad outputs so as long as you have an audio interface with 8 or more inputs, you can do that.
@@cleverdood Thanks man! Just bought the kit so looking forward to testing it out.
So when i’m recording the snare drum and kick drum sound can still be heard. Any tip on why or how to turn the sound off? I like to just be able to hear the click track. This is when i’m recording each track individual.
input monitoring is probably turned on. Or, in my case, my Focusrite interface has its own app (Focusrite Control) so I can setup whatever I want to hear in my headphones. I turn it all off when recording, I don't like hearing anything other than the click and a scratch track.
@@cleverdood ok.
Cool. I’m using the Focusrite Clarett 8pro. I’ll try that.
@@cleverdood Going through everything nothing is changed for each track all the same.. Only happens on channel 1 and 2. Do I need to change something on the module? Perhaps that's why I hear the sound
@@CREA9TURE what audio interface are you using?
@@cleverdood I'm using the Focusrite Clarett 8Pre
Can I record without using midi and if so.... how do I approach that?
yes, but you'd need an audio interface. I have another video on the channel about recording with the audio outputs.
Hey Jason, thanks for the great video tutorial! Any advice for getting my Alesis Strike Pro SE Hi Hat to map cleanly to Logic Pro X? The CC values don't seem to line up for playing the hi-hat open and closed.
I'm having the same problem. In Kontakt, closed is read as open and I don't understand why the module doesn't let you actually map all the midi data. So frustrating.
I want to be friends with Jason. What a lifesaver.
I don’t care about recording, I just want to hear my vst samples. I had an alesis surge and had this working in five minutes. Now I have a strike pro se and spent an entire day trying to connect to addictive drums 2 and no dice. The software recognizes my strikes, but sound is coming from strike module. I use reaper. Opened reaper and loaded AD2, there isn’t a local on and off in the module, but I enabled. Still nothing. And nobody is talking about this.
that's weird, I've only used Logic's drummer and SSD.5 and they work fine, but I did have to re-map stuff.
@@cleverdood it’s all good. I downloaded sdse and imported all of the samples into the module. Now I don’t even need to hook up the computer.