Liegniczer Sword & Buckler - Understanding HEMA
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2016
- Special Guest Kyle Griswold of the Mordhau chapter from the Phoenix society brings us through the six Liegnitczer Sword and Buckler plays.
Weapons Used:
Nicole's - SGT Blades
Kyle - Chlebowski
Bucklers - Cold Steel
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New Technique in End Them Rightly school
Impressive!
jk, good job guys
Always funny to see people using the Buckler in a defensive way :)
Enjoyable watch, thank you!
Great. Thanks for your videos!
Great stuff! Please do more sword and buckler.
Very clear presentation. I recall the fift play actually ends in taking the right leg, and not the left leg as shown here. Do the sturzhau as a feint and change the last thrust direction to get the right leg.
Good stuff, thanks guys
I like the professionalism in your videos, but I think you might want to up the tempo in the example parts. I know it takes some protective gear to go "full tempo" but I'm also quite sure that you got the gear. It's kind of hard to see why you don't hit back in the moves. It would be kind of helpful to see them in speed and a slowmotion of that, more than stop parts. The stopping helps very much on understanding what you are doing but not so much on what it's supposed to look like in action.
Ofcourse I understand that this is a quest video, and you don't want to go through too much hazzle but maybe you want to show these with Sean in more action. Anyways I love your channel 'cos you do this so much more informatevly than other youtube hema channels I'm following.
Also sorry if I'm offensive or something, english isn't definetly my first language. And anyways if you keep doing this, I'm going to keep watching this. Just my thoughts on improving your videos. Have a good time making youtube!
Thanks for the feedback! We agree, that would definitely be a good idea. Honestly a lot of the content is changed by how much time we have for filming. There was something else during this day other than this episode ;)
But it's definitely something we'll keep in mind for the future.
Yeah, I understand that youtube is more a hobby than anything else. But I see a lot of potential in your channel.
can you add a pommel to a buckler? For more rightly endings?
Anyone use the 6th play in competition or sparring? I have a heart for the out of the box plays and techniques.
God, i want to do HEMA now, but i don't know where to start
I am look for a plate of play #6. Do you have a source for a period image? I am looking for an image of someone hitting his opponent with his own buckler.
Holy crap! Look at that mask in the outro. Whoever had their head in that was sure ended rightly.
nice arming swords! who made them?
Actually Nicole's is SGT Blades. But yes, Kyle has a Chlebowski. I'll update the description
Good Video, but i don't get the concept that you can end someone rightly without unscrewing the pommel.
Aren't those synthetic bucklers not supposed to be used with steel swords? I have one that's identical and is says on the back of it not to use metal weapons.
They get chewed up, but they're still the best sparring bucklers we've found since you can go full intensity without damaging your blade like you would with a steel buckler. Much more affordable too
Julian Schuetze
Makes sense.
I really liked Play 6
These techniques look almost identical to German Longsword system which is really interesting.
Same tradition.
Are theese ColdSteel bucklers or do they come from the other manufacturer?
They are Cold Steel bucklers.
nice... just leave a bound with shield is much easier... keep that in mind
Silly man, you can't end someone rightly without throwing a pommel!
Skallagrim intensifies! lol
3:45 is this a 1600N mask?
Its "swiftly" though.
Not "rightly".
Resch or rechlich or sth like that in the german original sources like gladiatoria if i know right(ly)
Great vid! Thanks :)
All seems to rely on someone not stepping back or circling to a 45.
That's for the sake of our camera rig limitations, if they step back you'd step forward. Notice that Kyle does step with the attacks, it would just change on where your opponent goes.
Nice vid!
...you cheated the final thrust in play #4 🤣
Seems like a lot of the counter attacks could be dodged without needing to be professional
yesssssssss
can we see a sparring match?
what are those masks made of? Cardboard?
0/10 no pommel throwing
Nice video, but in my opinion raw drills are useless if not backed with full contact and full pace sparing practice. Good video nonetheless.
We agree completely. Kyle is a 2 time S&B gold medalist for some of the largest tournaments in North America after all.
I never doubted his skills :) Doing sword and shield for over 7 years so I can see He aint fake, but some less experienced people may need proves that stuff You show actually works and isn't just talking. Good luck, subscribed :)
Nordelag Absolutely. We hope to get more sparring footage whenever we get a guest instructor in for the future. We recently invested in some hardware, which should make those bouts more interesting :)
Waiting to see that. We're just about to make bulk order of guards and synthetic swords from thehemashop, well see if its worthy
i guess ending rightly means doing something really really useless. this is almost like bullshido - throwing pommels and stuff.
If I understand correctly, it's a term that was used unironically in a lot of manuscripts, that then became an in-joke among the masters just as it is for us, of suggesting a strange but theoretically possible technique
That last one is ridiculous and would never work. Reminds me of kung fu, and the age old arguments of what martial art was best. THANK GOD, MMA started and now we don't have to argue about technique. Choreographed techniques rarely help in a real situation because, the reaction of an adversary is totally unpredictable. I wish this channel had more straight up sparing. Live action. No bullshit. I'd like to see these techniques done live action...
You have to know what you are doing Before you get creative.
You must be new to the art of ending them rightly.
If I had to guess, I'd say you've never been an advanced fighter in a martial art, at least not boxing, cause some of the things you said are exactly opposite to the truth (this is the internet so please don't bother saying "well actually I have three black belts. Chuck Norris learned most of his moves from me.) I don't know how it carries over to HEMA or any other martial art but as a boxer and later boxing trainer I can say that in boxing, you're wrong. Anytime a I sparred against some of my students or another really advanced fighter sparred against a less experienced fighter, including myself when I was younger (as the newb), it was almost comical how easy they got countered because the reaction of the opponent IS predictable. As you go along and have sparred a thousand+ times you learn that after any move there is only a few, at best, reasonable reactions, with one being far more common than the rest; and knowing how to counter those you gain a natural rhythm. For example, if an opponent throws a straight right at me I know the left is coming. The odds of them throwing another right is very low and if they do it'll take much longer than the left so I'll have time to react, but really after sparring hundreds of hours you build an instinct. If they threw a right and you slipped inside, you duck in and spin out to avoid the left that IS coming. If you slipped outside you can either weave to the left under their left hook and counter with your own or you can counter with a straight right moving inside and spinning out as you do so to avoid their left (much like the great Bernard Hopkins). Point is, there are only a few possible reactions to something in a fight (I can only speak of boxing) and one or two are far more likely than the others, practicing how to counter them individually and most importantly sparring gives an advanced fighter an instinct that to new fighters seems almost supernatural; as if they knew what you were going to do before you even did it (because, guess what, they did).
You hold some truth. Boxing is an art where the repertoire is heavily restricted though.
GhostOfHarrenhal True, and it's all I can speak of with any significant insight. The concept though is that not all moves all equally advantageous. You can throw two right hands in a row in boxing, that's of course allowed, it's just that to throw another right you have to move your right hand back and shift your weight from the front foot to the back; all things you can do while throwing a left hook. You can throw a right-left-right in the same time as two rights. It also has to do with defense, a right comes straight in so an opponent will tend to move their hands in front to fully defend while the hook comes in from the side. So in defending the right they create an opening for the hook and vice versa. If someone fights in a way that doesn't take advantage of these natural things, they will pay a price for it. I assume the same to be true for fencing to some degree. I would expect that if someone threw a downward cut from their right that a cut from their left, possibly an upward cut, would most likely be next; not another downward cut from the right. They would have to do excess movement just as in boxing. There may be a rhythm to it as well, left-right-left up-down-up etc to save time, meaning less time open to attack from the enemy and that you get more attacks/sec. I could be wrong though, I only know boxing, but I see no reason for it to not be the case there as well; whether it's to the same degree or not is something else.