It’s not you, it’s my hormones Testosterone Influences | Lisa Welling | TEDxOaklandUniversity

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  • My research finds that increases in testosterone is associated with increased preferences for sexually dimorphic (i.e., masculinity in males and femininity in females) characteristics and changes in self-perception. Specifically, research shows that testosterone influences perceptions by increasing preferences for masculine men and feminine women, and influencing men's perceptions of their own dominance. This research demonstrates that, far from being arbitrary, our preferences and perceptions are at least in part governed by biological processes and that beauty is not just in the eye of the beholder.
    Dr. Lisa Welling is an Assistant Professor at Oakland University. Her Ph.D., entitled Individual Differences in Face Preferences, was completed in 2008 and was funded by the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada. Grounded in evolutionary reasoning, Dr. Welling’s research generally surrounds three related areas: hormonal influences on behavior, sources of adaptive mate preferences, and interpersonal relationships. In addition to having co-edited a book entitled Evolutionary Perspectives on Social Psychology, Dr. Welling has published five book chapters and more than fifty scientific journal articles. Her research has been featured in the media multiple times on programs including lthe Oprah Winfrey Show and the Discovery Channel documentary Curiosity.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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  • @jamiewilson2550
    @jamiewilson2550 7 лет назад +856

    may the hormones ever be in your favor

  • @MrBeiragua
    @MrBeiragua 7 лет назад +511

    For everyone saying "but I am X and am not like that", studies like these are studies of generalities. Most people will have their behavior reasonably explained by what she said, the rest are normal statistical deviations expected in complex things like humans.

  • @ShawnRavenfire
    @ShawnRavenfire 7 лет назад +1378

    Tedx talks needs a new microphone. That breathy popping is really annoying.

    • @LegalAutomation
      @LegalAutomation 6 лет назад +44

      Shawn Ravenfire tedx are independently organized. Each one will be of different quality, dependent on the organizer and their finances

    • @Helga-fe5xl
      @Helga-fe5xl 6 лет назад +18

      And the volume is all over the place

    • @InsanePorcupine
      @InsanePorcupine 6 лет назад +11

      It lacks that little foam cover to stop buffetting.

    •  6 лет назад +9

      It doesn't stop the presenters from deepthroating them.

    • @ausintune9014
      @ausintune9014 6 лет назад +5

      just needs a pop filter

  • @Kibitserr
    @Kibitserr 6 лет назад +114

    Oh yeah, the picture on the left is more attractive.
    Lisa: "The picture on the right is the more attractive one."

  • @andrasfogarasi5014
    @andrasfogarasi5014 7 лет назад +460

    Man are attracted to the signs of fertility.
    Women are attracted to the sign of of genetic fitness.
    So basically boobs and muscles.

    • @amandasmith3504
      @amandasmith3504 6 лет назад +23

      This is an acceptable tl;dr. Thanks.

    • @bxsed
      @bxsed 6 лет назад +14

      Genetic fitness + high status

    • @MrBlancify
      @MrBlancify 6 лет назад +12

      So basicly big ol bumps on the body

    • @Rueyful
      @Rueyful 6 лет назад +25

      Not just muscles for men, but also bone structure, skin thickness, body and facial hair, height, skin tone, voice, shoulder width, etc.

    • @Trazynn
      @Trazynn 6 лет назад +23

      @@Rueyful academic degree, bank account, real estate, career momentum, cars and other luxury items etc.

  • @Zgembo121
    @Zgembo121 8 лет назад +690

    new life goal: look more like Male Prototype

    • @LittleDubSteps
      @LittleDubSteps 7 лет назад +117

      Zgembo121 Easy, just manipulate the points of your vector.

    • @diana.diamond
      @diana.diamond 7 лет назад +4

      hahahaha

    • @mikuspalmis
      @mikuspalmis 7 лет назад +12

      Michael Young
      But is his body ready?

    • @relentless5321
      @relentless5321 6 лет назад +7

      Zgembo121, you're profile pic though..

    • @megnemo6403
      @megnemo6403 6 лет назад +7

      although what she says about how the world in general behaves towards attractive people i personally refuse to mess with people who are attractive but emotional or intellectual sows ears. and rest assured while my point of veiw is not typical am not the only one who feels this way

  • @lawrenceworrell2493
    @lawrenceworrell2493 7 лет назад +53

    Yes, in truth this study does miss out on the psychological aspects, such as using clothing and hair style and other such things to create the illusion of masculinity or femininity. Its not all lost people, you can trick people into thinking you are more "attractive" than you really are.

    • @Donnah1979
      @Donnah1979 7 лет назад +10

      Grooming in it self shows some surplus, which is attractive, so...

    • @lawrenceworrell2493
      @lawrenceworrell2493 7 лет назад +3

      ...in the end you can become more attractive through various artificial means, and sometimes those means, in themselves, make you even more attractive.

    • @lawrenceworrell2493
      @lawrenceworrell2493 7 лет назад +10

      In conclusion, not only does attractiveness have a natural element, it also has a skill element, which can be learned.

    • @missarissa1000
      @missarissa1000 7 лет назад +2

      Lawrence Worrell i agree... i once date an ugly unattractive guy because i was frustrated with my previos boyfriend that was attractive.. and i thought the main problem was he was attractive.. and i thought i need to be like a type of person that can see a person beyond just looks.. because my previos attractive boyfriend (that for me i thought was out of my league) has issues that i thought only attractive people have.. so.. this ugly unattractive guy, he 1st and foremost are sick,, he has kidney disease and his sickness are see through his physical which he looks skinny malnourished and physically smaller than me as an average guy.. and i have a normal average body of a female.. not just that.. he looks like he didnt even care to try to groom himself to make himself presented better.. his clothing always 2 times bigger than his size.. and when talks about clothing sizing he seems like to detest people that wear tight fitting clothes.. he says it looks uncomfortable and didnt like it.. but the problem is.. his clothing are just way bigger than his size.. like he didnt care! and he also has some kind of hatred towards people that take care of their appearance.. he thought he was being a better person by not focusing on appearance but the problem is.. his appearance are just making me want to puke.. he sorta trying to push his idealogies into me aswell probably because he realise that im out of his league and trying to make me think that appearance is not important and just accept him as it is.. i do believe that theres no such thing as ugly people.. just people that didnt take care of their appearance.. i almost falls into his bullshit ideologies.. he keeps saying to me.. "just accept me just aaccept me" asking me to accept him as he is no matter how unattracted i am in his apppearance and have told him many2 times.. the only things that his selling are his attitude.. and he thinks his attitude sells more to compensate his unattractiveness.. the more i spend time with him.. the more i discovered disgustissness in him.. like the way he walks are unattractive.. the way he drive are unattractive.. the way he eats are messy.. just gross me out.. in the end i really have to end it.. and the lesson i learned from that.. i do need to be with a person that i find attractive no matter what.. issues can come in both traits.. either attractive or unattractive.. and theres nothing wrong in that and nothing wrong to have a preferences.. and i am 100persent more than willing to be and deal with attractive ppl with issues than with an unattractive one..

    • @marcinszymanek3894
      @marcinszymanek3894 6 лет назад +11

      Your formatting is incredibly unattractive.

  • @nodecafplz
    @nodecafplz 7 лет назад +424

    No sweat. I'll be reincarnated as a Brazilian soccer star next go around.

  • @kittendivine1
    @kittendivine1 6 лет назад +57

    One thing I don't get is this: high testosterone in women makes them attracted to masculine men, but high testosterone makes women's faces more masculine and thus less attractive to those men?

    • @mcdonaldsprotienpowder1375
      @mcdonaldsprotienpowder1375 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah that is interesting

    • @MaddieNiec
      @MaddieNiec 5 лет назад +21

      It's over a short period of time, though. Women with more masculine features might not have a higher testosterone level than women with less masculine features.

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel 5 лет назад +15

      "High" is relative. "High" testosterone for a woman is still only like 1/40th of the testosterone of a man, and not enough to cause a woman to look masculine.
      We're not talking about women taking steroids.

    • @Slumpthemenace
      @Slumpthemenace 4 года назад +1

      What Not To Do At a Stoplight it does the ratchet chiks at my school tend to have wider faces

    • @ishthefish9006
      @ishthefish9006 4 года назад +1

      @What Not To Do At a Stoplight actually it does have younseen women bodybuilder?

  • @punkyoliverio
    @punkyoliverio 6 лет назад +13

    I get excited physically with masculinity and get excited mentally and emotionally with a man's ability to communicate.

  • @Hiphop101ize
    @Hiphop101ize 7 лет назад +441

    moral of the story, if you're ugly then take steroids

    • @MilosObilic123
      @MilosObilic123 7 лет назад +73

      Hiphop101ize no, just make money

    • @AL-sd7uz
      @AL-sd7uz 7 лет назад +3

      Lisa Ilic tru moneh is bryngs happiness

    • @ticktockbam
      @ticktockbam 6 лет назад +13

      God bless roids.

    • @Mylada
      @Mylada 6 лет назад +14

      It would be easier to take roids than make a lot of money

    • @pavlecurcin
      @pavlecurcin 6 лет назад +7

      Taking Testosterone in a responsible manner can benefit your life greatly.

  • @macmcleod1188
    @macmcleod1188 6 лет назад +10

    As a testicular cancer survivor, who uses testosterone supplementation, my testosterone level varies from under 200 to over 1500 in a few cases. It had no effect on what I was attracted to. It did affect my morning wood... but also the quality of my sleep, the clarity or foginess of my thinking, whether or not I felt constant dread all the time, whether or not I had night sweats.
    So at the least.. I'm a counter example.
    I suspect height and income are more important than testosterone levels.

    • @imzjustplayin
      @imzjustplayin 5 лет назад +5

      "had no effect on what I was attracted to" That's subjective and this study specifically shows that it does have an effect, subconsciously or not. They were showing small differences in people's appearance and the preference people had when subjected to different T levels and it shows their biases depending on hormone level. You probably just didn't notice and or were not specifically looking/dating and being subjected to different faces, picking out which ones you preferred.

  • @lifeguy3000
    @lifeguy3000 7 лет назад +81

    TED, step up your audio game. Hearing a mic pop every 3 seconds is not pleasant

    • @joannecarroll5504
      @joannecarroll5504 5 лет назад +2

      that has more to do with the person sticking it down their own throat than TED

  • @infintecatvids8860
    @infintecatvids8860 7 лет назад +1011

    "Vote for physically attractive people"
    But trump tho

    • @Amateur_Pianist_472
      @Amateur_Pianist_472 7 лет назад +66

      Yeah but desperation for change makes that happen.

    • @Redflowers9
      @Redflowers9 7 лет назад +19

      He looks like a Jaffa cake

    • @Redflowers9
      @Redflowers9 7 лет назад +28

      I'm commenting on the guy's orange characteristics, based on his hair and tan, which I personally don't deem very attractive, and you're commenting on the idea that I or another person is a 'snowflake' (at the worst, a narcissist) turned 'snivelling mentalist' (neurotic), and a 'nappy wearer' (immature person) based on what?

    • @Redflowers9
      @Redflowers9 7 лет назад +8

      Again, just out of curiosity, assuming you like Trump, why do you like him?

    • @amertysoN
      @amertysoN 7 лет назад +70

      Do you know many 71 year olds better looking than him?

  • @charmagne2102
    @charmagne2102 7 лет назад +436

    What if you are not attracted to hyper masculine men? or Hyper feminine women?what is the explanation for it? (depending on your sexual orientation)

    • @TheMegalusDoomslayer
      @TheMegalusDoomslayer 7 лет назад +111

      It means you're being authentic.

    • @313Violator313
      @313Violator313 7 лет назад +224

      based on what she said:
      1.it means that your testosterone levels are not very high just normal.
      2.another reason maybe that you subconsciously tuned your preference to desire those that are not out of your league. For example, if you're an average guy you know that a hot super model is out of your league so your desire learns to lean towards woman that you can get.

    • @WickedNPC
      @WickedNPC 7 лет назад +105

      +Charle Magne Personal preferenses are affected by many other things than hormones.

    • @lawrenceworrell2493
      @lawrenceworrell2493 7 лет назад +94

      She also failed to report that depending on what the person is looking for in regards to a relationship is a factor too. I.e when women and men are after just sex they look for the features that are most masculine/feminine, however when the goal is a long term relationship, those same factors become negative attractors i.e they are avoided.

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 7 лет назад +16

      Lawrence Worrell why would I avoid them if looking for a relationship? that makes no sense

  • @deletevil
    @deletevil 6 лет назад +10

    I disagree with the symmetrical vs asymmetrical shape. Asymmetrical shaped people (if limited to face cuts only) do look very attractive and even surpass most symmetrical face cuts in attractiveness.

  • @seraphilight
    @seraphilight 6 лет назад +7

    The newborn thing would just be the nurse's survival instincts kicking in and going, "These ones are more likely to attract mates and propagate the species so my finite effort is more valuable here." Like an animal mother leaving the weakest of the litter to distract hunters while she gets away with the rest of them.

  • @RonanAquilius
    @RonanAquilius 6 лет назад +4

    whenever you disagree with the majority on what is an attractive face, 90% of the time, it's because you are trying to defend their personality, of course there are exceptions though when you truly think a face is physically attractive but most people don't agree, but this is rare.

  • @DrevorReal
    @DrevorReal 7 лет назад +93

    It's both frightening and fascination the extent these hormones dictate so many aspects of our personality, even the effects are more dramatic only if you're on any far end of the spectrum. It's already been mentioned by others but I would be interested to know how this applies to homosexual and bisexual. Would higher testo levels make men attracted to other men with more typical masculine characteristics?
    Or is it the complete opposite? After all, and I realize that this is just a stereotype so I have no idea if this is true at all, but the gay community seems to consist of tops and bottoms, and it would make more sense if the "tops" so to speak had higher levels of testosterone, but that would also suggest they wouldn't necessarily be attracted to more feminine bottoms?
    Would also be interesting to know more about the relationship between testosterone and depression. Is there a correlation?

    • @MusicaDelCaribe
      @MusicaDelCaribe 7 лет назад +17

      Carl Minez most hyper masculine gays I've met have been bottoms or versatile lol.. it doesn't make sense to.associate such male-female binary roles to same sex couples

    • @DrevorReal
      @DrevorReal 7 лет назад +2

      You're probably right about that.

    • @paulh.9526
      @paulh.9526 7 лет назад +9

      I would like to suggest an amendment:
      Replace "dictate" with "influence".

    • @goodingwashington6099
      @goodingwashington6099 6 лет назад +5

      IMHO like many things the moment you observe it (consciously) it changes.

    • @rockstar2PL
      @rockstar2PL 6 лет назад +1

      I was wondering same thing, since I'm attracted more towards femine or 'neutral' girls & guys & I don't like masculine people, but sometimes this kinda changes and this is weird XD

  • @wilhelmbeck8498
    @wilhelmbeck8498 4 года назад +17

    Sounds interesting - could you call back when there's new data on how to spot a person that has above average levels of empathy, humour and social intelligence ?

  • @Spiqen
    @Spiqen 5 лет назад +3

    For people strongly emotionally effected by this: Cindy Crawford, Ryan Gosling and Marilyn Monroe are all people with strong asymatry, called by some the most attractive people in the world. Hope you have a great day!

  • @Daniel-xp1jy
    @Daniel-xp1jy 7 лет назад +217

    the people saying "but what about the trans gendered and homosexuals etc." listen sometimes people aren't forgetting about those people its just that in the current conversation its irrelevant or not the objective of the talk.

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX 7 лет назад +34

      On point.
      It's like you aren't allowed anymore to make any generalizations ever, without explicitly stating that it 'only' applies to the average joes, i.e. the majority.
      That it might _not_ be true for certain minorities that make up single digit percentiles in the population, if even that.
      Not saying they are irrelevant, but that they are merely the exception to the rule. Not the antithesis.
      Just because your group doesn't get mentioned does not imply that it has been ignored out of malice.

    • @_teddy__8731
      @_teddy__8731 7 лет назад +27

      i agree with you, it's not always the topic of the talk, but if you talk about attraction etc. it would be interessting to know how it applies and works with other sexualitys. but that's just my opinion.

    • @Welther47
      @Welther47 7 лет назад +8

      They you can expand on it yourself. They have around 20 mins on ted, she got to keep it focused

    • @dylanflynn1895
      @dylanflynn1895 7 лет назад +4

      let alone being a significant statistical anomaly that they identify as such

    • @MaxwellsWitch
      @MaxwellsWitch 7 лет назад +9

      Daniel I know, we are talking about the standard human. Though, lgbt are a divergence, so they are hard to perform statistical studies on.

  • @naskrajuciszy
    @naskrajuciszy 6 лет назад +16

    a lot of hurt feelings in the comment section, because reality doesn't agree with their preconceived notions of people being blank slates, and because of lack of understanding of statistics. just because you know a tall woman that dwarfs men doesn't mean that women are no longer ON AVERAGE shorter than men. just because our hard wiring has influence on our behavior doesn't mean it's the determining factor, but just the envioronment isn't determining as well. it's an interplay of both.
    sigh.

    • @hallo-mt5tx
      @hallo-mt5tx 5 лет назад +2

      its really really scary that there are people that unironically are incapable of accepting facts even if they are shown the evidence
      their feelings are always worth more which makes them sheep to be manipulated

  • @patuskert9554
    @patuskert9554 6 лет назад +108

    This doesn't explain the success of Sarah Jessica Parker.

    • @violet-trash
      @violet-trash 6 лет назад +16

      I don't know any men that find her attractive though.

    • @briannabombshell1921
      @briannabombshell1921 5 лет назад +6

      Kikuyu Kiiru Whoa, a bit anti-Semitic much?

    • @czos9239
      @czos9239 5 лет назад +2

      Women being contrarian. Chaos is feminine.

    • @alicheri7880
      @alicheri7880 5 лет назад +8

      @@czos9239 From my experience, it's quite the opposite- most women I know are more organised and more reliable than men, probably due to the fact that many women I know have a lot of very different chores, so in order to maintain a balance between work, family, friends and taking care of home they need to be both organized and flexible. I would even say, the more traditionally feminine woman is, the greater chance is that she is also very well-organised person.

    • @alicheri7880
      @alicheri7880 5 лет назад +1

      Not a fan of her either, but have to admit that she has always had quite nice bod.

  • @guillaumebourgault5532
    @guillaumebourgault5532 7 лет назад +363

    Death to graph whose y-axis does not start at zero

    • @andrestifyable
      @andrestifyable 7 лет назад +62

      nononononono what's the point of drawing a graph that comes from 0 to 600 if your interest it's between 500 and 600? Do you get what I mean? It's way better to adjust your axis acording to your data!

    • @RainbowFishSaysHello
      @RainbowFishSaysHello 7 лет назад +10

      Lies, damn lies and statistics. I'm all for labelling the axis so you can fit everything on one page, but even though I do it myself I assumed it went from zero. Just goes to show, always read the labels.

    • @joelikesthings
      @joelikesthings 7 лет назад +20

      a graph must always start on a zero and then have a squiggly line to jump as it indicates to the person reading the graph that numbers were skipped (otherwise the scale is wrong)

    • @bookguitarguy
      @bookguitarguy 7 лет назад +17

      I agree... it's deceptive, manipulative bullshit to create a certain impression, usually.

    • @wolfgangouille
      @wolfgangouille 7 лет назад +4

      Yes, the difference is 0.5 % ans she says "through the roof" lol.

  • @Divided_Highway
    @Divided_Highway 4 года назад +4

    I’m a masculine man but find, and always have found, extremely muscular women attractive with more masculine features. Have always wondered why.

    • @muskanhira763
      @muskanhira763 3 года назад +2

      Lol. A masculine man would never call himself 'masculine' and being a lil tall with some muscles doesn't make you 'masculine' bud

    • @Divided_Highway
      @Divided_Highway 3 года назад +2

      @@muskanhira763 sounds good, big guy 👍

    • @abhishekchavhan2018
      @abhishekchavhan2018 2 года назад +3

      You are more interested in companionship/bonding as opposed to breeding. Look up r/k selection in evolutionary biology.

  • @croaklikeatoad4384
    @croaklikeatoad4384 6 лет назад +4

    What if masculine women and feminine men are more likely to be victims of constant, minor acts of discrimination? This would increase stress and decrease things like immune system function.

  • @pariketthakkar2687
    @pariketthakkar2687 2 года назад +1

    All this is great to know, and honestly, what i take away is just to take care of yourself. Ensure you eat, sleep well and that physical and mental health is good as these things will guide the hormonal balance in your body. Hope this video doesnt make people feel inadequate, cz it shouldn't.

  • @kerenton5897
    @kerenton5897 6 лет назад +27

    Looks > Everything.

  • @jasoncragg5607
    @jasoncragg5607 7 лет назад +2

    Finally a TED I can get behind!

  • @Nicole-rq8ix
    @Nicole-rq8ix 6 лет назад +4

    In addition to intelligence and social status, I am physically attracted to tall, muscular guys. Now I can say "it;s not you, it;s my hormones" thanks lol

  • @youfoundwaldo77
    @youfoundwaldo77 6 лет назад +1

    I love that Ted has videos like this that has science behind why people look good and then they have Ted talks that say the complete opposite.

    • @demonreturns4336
      @demonreturns4336 3 года назад

      I mean even in the face of scientific facts and proof people still believe what they wanna believe
      There are some people that think the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese :-I

  • @rebeccasmith7432
    @rebeccasmith7432 7 лет назад +12

    This was very Interesting. I would be interested in seeing the similarities and differences in individuals with same sex attractions.

  • @actsrv9
    @actsrv9 8 лет назад +12

    So the date / person clicking is often a case of coinciding testosterone peaks when you are emotionally open to pursuing a relationship ?!?! This means you need an app on your smartphone that somehow measures your key hormones and tells you what your present hormonal profile is and that you should adjust your dating / mating decisions accordingly in order to minimise interference in decision making from hormones ... I guess...?
    On some reflection the bit about preferring attractive people seems anecdotally true - often you feel just that very slight bit better in the presence of an attractive person and that predisposes you to behave well with them or treat them preferentially. It's almost the same effect as if attractive people invisibly shooting "you love me" hypnosis rays into their surroundings all the time...

    • @oonmm
      @oonmm 6 лет назад

      There's no need to fight nature. If one is attracted to hypermasculine/hyperfemenine people because of biology, so be it.

    • @proudtitanicdenier4300
      @proudtitanicdenier4300 6 лет назад

      They have actual scientific evidence, you spazmoid.

  • @natclo9229
    @natclo9229 6 лет назад +3

    So learn to change your state of mind depending on the other person, powerful stuff

  • @LapisGarter
    @LapisGarter 7 лет назад +42

    Masculine women and feminine men, which is the rooster and which is the hen?

  • @jocelynm3900
    @jocelynm3900 6 лет назад +115

    I find really masculine men to be really annoying and irritating. I also find super feminine women to be annoying.

    • @Satan666Official
      @Satan666Official 6 лет назад +8

      Jocelyn M
      To each their own.

    • @abdirisakmussevids
      @abdirisakmussevids 6 лет назад +7

      Oh cool we have an outlier

    • @user-yk5xu8gr1e
      @user-yk5xu8gr1e 6 лет назад +9

      @@abdirisakmussevids not really....balance is the key

    • @Vyxia
      @Vyxia 6 лет назад +3

      you're just jelly lmao 😇😇

    • @EmiTheLoomistar
      @EmiTheLoomistar 6 лет назад +2

      ​@@user-yk5xu8gr1e Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

  • @anandsharma7430
    @anandsharma7430 3 года назад +3

    In other words, the fabled "love potion" from medieval stories is testosterone.

  • @Bagunka
    @Bagunka 6 лет назад +2

    Very interesting and exactly what I have concluded prior to watching this.

  • @michaelbirdsall3228
    @michaelbirdsall3228 7 лет назад +187

    Really poorly reasoned. People with these traits report better immunity, therefore that reported immunity is caused by genetics? It could simply be that their life is easier because they are more attractive and as a result experience fewer stress related illnesses. There is zero evidence given that the cause of reported increased immunity.

    • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
      @AlbertBalbastreMorte 7 лет назад +30

      Do you say there's zero evidence because you read into this and related studies and concluded there was none or because you didn't nother doing so?

    • @michaelbirdsall3228
      @michaelbirdsall3228 7 лет назад +36

      Albert Balbastre-Morte It is the burden of the person making the argument to produce the evidence. I could research this and provide counter evidence but it is equally effectual to just point out that this is poorly reasoned. Because I didn't provide counter evidence doesn't make this any better. It is still nonsense.

    • @noct8225
      @noct8225 7 лет назад +6

      Michael Birdsall I agree. I don't feel like the argument was strong enough to be convincing.

    • @GOREilla.
      @GOREilla. 7 лет назад +11

      Izzy you don't FEEL?! Lmao

    • @noct8225
      @noct8225 7 лет назад +8

      GORE illa have you never heard someone say that before or what. If you'd prefer, It's "I don't think" but really they are pretty similar.

  • @jessicarobyns843
    @jessicarobyns843 6 лет назад +21

    Some of the claims she's making seem really questionable. Masculine men have "less interest in children" but how are you defining "masculine"? What was your sample size and what groups were you sampling from?

    • @silviafox78
      @silviafox78 5 лет назад +1

      mas·cu·line
      1. Having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with men, especially strength and aggressiveness.
      I'm pretty sure aggressive people in general have less interest in children. Since that is a defined masculine trait it makes sense.

    • @cg675
      @cg675 5 лет назад

      @@silviafox78 The two troubling key words I notice in that definition are "traditionally associated." it adds a bit of wiggle room, an "eye of the beholder" effect to the definition when I feel a published dictionary should word it more concretely. For instance, it sounds like, through your eyes, you see the topic of aggression only at its extreme, as in someone who can just put their fist through a wall when upset. Yeah, someone like that wouldn't want to be around kids and probably shouldn't be. The thing is aggression is not a mood or emotion, it's a measuring scale for the degree of intensity behind an action. Like negotiating aggressively. That doesn't mean you hate the person across from you at the business table and want to get violent. Let's take aggressiveness in playtime with your children. A Father might take their kid by one arm and leg, helicopter spin them, and throw them into a pool. It's a truly aggressive act, but not a damaging one. Odds are you'll just end up with a dad and a kid next to each other laughing their heads off afterwards.
      When it comes to attentiveness and nurturing, women and men are about the same when it comes to children. It just comes in different flavors between the two. Women tend to focus on protection and preservation, men tend to focus imparting and strengthening. All of it important. Another case of aggressiveness, one sibling shoves another and that one starts to cry. A father would step in at that time and lay it out, that was too much power used, so the kid learns to dial back at play and apologize. Pushing for the apology imparts humility and empathy, keeping in mind how you effect others and especially how that can mean a penalty on you.
      So, as a man, I get where Jess Rob is coming from. I hear that line in the presentation and it strikes that chord inside of "Ummm No. That's not a masculine man." That's the stereotype of a hyper macho manly man. I'm pretty sure that's what she's nodding to since she immediately follows that up describing guys who go out and sleep with as many girls as possible. Yeah, those types don't care about children. Pick up artist aren't going to commit to anyone. Last, you notice the word that came to mind there, "stereotype". And that loops us right back to "Traditionally associated". Putting so much weight on what a lot of people happen to think versus what something actually is.

    • @silviafox78
      @silviafox78 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@cg675 - ag·gres·sive
      adjective
      1. ready or likely to attack or confront; characterized by or resulting from aggression.
      2. pursuing one's aims and interests forcefully, sometimes unduly so.
      I would not call spinning a kid around and throwing them into a pool as aggressive behavior if the goal is to play. However take that same situation but use an actually aggressive man who throws their kid into a pool as a personal attack or maybe enforced punishment and you'll have aggressive behavior.

    • @k_tess
      @k_tess 5 лет назад

      @@silviafox78 Depends? If the point of the exercise is for the child to have fun, then isn't the man aggressively pursuing that goal?

    • @silviafox78
      @silviafox78 5 лет назад

      @@k_tess - Masculine aggression in the video is referring to the more violent instance rather than the forceful or determined definition.

  • @sheledon3272
    @sheledon3272 7 лет назад +3

    I always have wondered what my taste means. It's weird but I like smaller framed girls, as in not sticks and bones, but not curveylicious, and shy or quirky. I wish she went into how hormones affect personality or maybe that's just environment speaking.

  • @katy9569
    @katy9569 2 года назад +1

    It’s weird how many POC seemed to have been excluded from this study

  • @jameswhitleyart
    @jameswhitleyart 6 лет назад +5

    What I find fascinating about this is right at the end... That merely percieving to be superior increased men's testosterone! That is very interesting indeed, and empowering! Because that means it's all in our minds.

    • @imzjustplayin
      @imzjustplayin 5 лет назад +2

      It doesn't mean it's all in our minds, it means when you win, your body gives you a dose of testosterone. Can't be a winner all the time just like you can't be pleasure seeking all the time either which would give you a dopamine kick as well.

  • @Gryronaut
    @Gryronaut 7 лет назад +19

    Thank God for my good looks.

  • @gewgulkansuhckitt9086
    @gewgulkansuhckitt9086 7 лет назад +252

    I sexually identify as an attack helicopter, but when my testosterone is high, I really go for fighter jets.

  • @titanscar2183
    @titanscar2183 7 лет назад +24

    She looks more feminized to me in the standard picture

  • @coldwelthsimms5958
    @coldwelthsimms5958 7 лет назад +55

    This makes me feel so ugly and deppressed 😢 pocs ruined my life 😢

    • @suspiciousbird487
      @suspiciousbird487 7 лет назад +10

      same gal. same. biology fd us up and didn't want us to reproduce. lol.

    • @CasLee
      @CasLee 7 лет назад

      Coldwelth Simms same

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 7 лет назад

      Coldwelth Simms awe 😞. I'm sorry it's like that and you feel that way. I hope things go well for you.

    • @GlorifyYahweh
      @GlorifyYahweh 7 лет назад +4

      Coldwelth Simms Are you talking about Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome? I have that too I think. I was able to get periods once a month though by only eating 25 grams of sugar or less per day and eating healthier, but I'm still basically growing a beard :(((( I'm going to see an endocrinologist in a few months though and I am determined to fix this somehow!!! My testosterone is normal, but my sex hormone binding globulin is only a 7, when it should be at least 30 for women at my age of 20. I don't know what to do

    • @teelakod8902
      @teelakod8902 7 лет назад +2

      franie4456895 I really hope all goes well Franie... do you have regs periods?? i have always looked more manly than female i would say (like my dad). i have just had a baby and hes 4 months though dare i say it my periods havent arrived and NO i have not had nookie waiting to see if i get it this month....wondering do you think my testosterone hormones are up causing no periods???

  • @Cornerstanding
    @Cornerstanding 4 года назад +2

    The better Example would have been Cherlize Theron, The movie Monster. Should of ultra feminize the character from the film as well as the more masculine and vs. her regular self.

  • @GeneWillowMusic
    @GeneWillowMusic 6 лет назад +17

    So if you like a woman before approaching her find out the details of her menstruation cycle and calculate on what day you should approach her, depending on how masculine you are. You will have more chances to be liked back.If you are a feminine man, make her pregnant first and then approach. Women prefer feminine traits more during the period of pregnancy.

  • @manusha1349
    @manusha1349 2 года назад +1

    There is NO POINT in the menstrual cycle when the average woman prefers more feminised men. We always prefer more masculine men. We're just more honest when we're ovulating....

  • @LecherousLizard
    @LecherousLizard 5 лет назад +8

    3:38 With that laugh, I'm sure it's the experience talking.

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 5 лет назад +3

    Why am I watching this. I don't need someone to tell me why I deserve to die alone due to poor genetics.

  • @sarcasm-83
    @sarcasm-83 5 лет назад +4

    So, on the days when I pass a mirror, look at myself and think "Damn, I look kinda good today" are the days my testosterone is on it's lowest.
    (I'm a guy, if that wasn't obvious)

  • @timdunk7278
    @timdunk7278 7 лет назад +2

    Fascinating and it kind of makes sense, in a subconscious way.

  • @AJ5
    @AJ5 7 лет назад +26

    She cuts the graphs from below. Instead of starting from 0, they start from a higher number to make the differences look bigger, when they're actually small.
    THIS IS A PERFECT REPRESENTATION OF BAD RESEARCH

    • @warptens5652
      @warptens5652 5 лет назад

      "to make the differences look bigger"
      yeah, it's outrageous, she even had the graphs displayed on a big screen so that people could see them
      when really on a4 paper the graphs would be small

  • @robertarmitage1899
    @robertarmitage1899 7 лет назад

    How we are v how we are told we should be. The battle is within us and within society. It's the human condition.

  • @jacknorris5989
    @jacknorris5989 8 лет назад +178

    16:00 that dad in the top right corner doesn't GAF. He's just like "eh...those kids will learn...gravity will teach them...let nature sort 'em out...I'm gonna pretend these two pieces of pancake are airplanes crashing into each other!"

    • @colinrodale
      @colinrodale 7 лет назад +10

      That is a beautiful photograph, thank you for pointing it out.

    • @bookguitarguy
      @bookguitarguy 7 лет назад +4

      It's disturbing to hear what passes through people's minds when they project their most disjointed mentally or emotionally unhealthy thoughts onto others, and decide to tell us about it!!! ;O))

    • @willsmiths6542
      @willsmiths6542 7 лет назад +1

      Jack Norris your imagination...

    • @bishamontenrozy5241
      @bishamontenrozy5241 5 лет назад +1

      I am not the only one who makes weird backstorys about random pictures as a joke. Praise the lord.

  • @hermansohier7643
    @hermansohier7643 5 лет назад

    Attraction is just what it is,the moment you ask your self why you're attracted ,the attraction is not pure anymore .So mind has no clue.

  • @TheTimba011
    @TheTimba011 5 лет назад +8

    "There is evidence that...", "Studies have shown..." I love that

  • @havek23
    @havek23 6 лет назад +1

    Her original photograph (and herself in this talk) is way more attractive than either of the simulated ones

  • @SydneyCarton2085
    @SydneyCarton2085 7 лет назад +332

    I am a pansexual unicorn so how does this apply to me?
    I am above this.

  • @denisblack9897
    @denisblack9897 5 лет назад +5

    new life goal: study behavioral endocrinology, the real power

  • @andrerothweiler9191
    @andrerothweiler9191 7 лет назад +187

    most depressed video of my life

    • @Gunrun808
      @Gunrun808 7 лет назад +60

      The fact you think that lowers your testosterone.

    • @jessewright870
      @jessewright870 6 лет назад +6

      yeah, very deterministic

    • @habibsspirit
      @habibsspirit 6 лет назад +6

      yall haven't heard and/or read the denial of death then

    • @hushedtones7168
      @hushedtones7168 6 лет назад +2

      on the contrary I think it gives lots of insight on unsuccesful relationships expectations and why it doesnt work
      we live in the Low T era of manhood, just look at the music that's popular and what men are portrayed in the media.

    • @hushedtones7168
      @hushedtones7168 6 лет назад +1

      Golden Maximo thanks very much I've looked into it just looking at the wikipedia page was enlightening. nothing depressing I think it helps to know the rules then just do what you can with the hand you were dealt in life. it helps give a better direction

  • @jefgir
    @jefgir 6 лет назад +1

    I want to send this video to a friend that doesn't speak english. Please allow the viewers to subtitle the video.

  • @ElizabethRudderow13
    @ElizabethRudderow13 7 лет назад +816

    this is cool but I'm gay

    • @neverfearingdifficulty8915
      @neverfearingdifficulty8915 7 лет назад +63

      YourMother 3-4% of the population is LGBT. It's not really quite rare.

    • @ElizabethRudderow13
      @ElizabethRudderow13 7 лет назад +92

      YourMother everybody's a little gay Martha don't be a bigot

    • @GeckoHiker
      @GeckoHiker 7 лет назад +10

      I'm pretty somber, for a cat, actually. >^;^

    • @minorcat
      @minorcat 7 лет назад +75

      right? as a fellow gay-this raises more questions for me than gives me a more nuanced understanding of sexual dimorphism. like, being attracted to all gendered shades of lady-does this mean my hormones are in a chronic state of queer equilibrium? or does it mean that when i ovulate or win my videogames im more prone to be gaga over butch and hard femmes? so many questions...also when it comes to straight people that date eachother and dont want kids-are they a hormonal and evolutionary biological anomole? is it queer in and of itself to choose to date based on non-reproductive partnerships?

    • @oliverparkerisadad8526
      @oliverparkerisadad8526 7 лет назад +3

      my exact thought

  • @sabinawojtasiak9943
    @sabinawojtasiak9943 4 года назад +2

    rise your hand whoever died inside a little bit on that "sorry to break it to ya" joke

  • @nodecafplz
    @nodecafplz 7 лет назад +626

    Stop the world, I want to get off.

    • @ernisato
      @ernisato 7 лет назад +10

      Curiosity Bye bye

    • @nikitanosov8159
      @nikitanosov8159 7 лет назад +59

      There is light at the end of the tunnel. Nine times out of ten its a moth, but sometimes its just another train.

    • @soyboynpc8236
      @soyboynpc8236 7 лет назад +2

      Yeah,that was tuff

    • @joelikesthings
      @joelikesthings 7 лет назад +15

      Please don't do that. It would cause every living person to die if the world came to an abrupt halt. People wouldn't even die from the impact of flying into things, they'd probably die from the g-force first. I think if someone made an example simulation of what it would look like it would be very interesting: I think seeing what would happen to the bodies of water would be the strangest. It could be possible that the water would be travelling fast enough (compared to the still Earth) that it would fly into space, creating a stranger whirlpool of water floating away from the Earth. I think it would also be just as interesting to see what would happen if the world slowed down over time, meaning that we would see the effects of the Earth being still on the environmental side (rather than everything being sweeped of the surface of Earth and into space) of things with people there to interact with the new environment. Honestly that's a great novel idea, there is a lot of research that would need to be done to write it. What would happen to the weather? Could it rain? Would there be tides? And if there were would it only be in the part of the Earth that is dark? Would the ozone layer still stay and have a breathable atmosphere? Would everyone die anyway? Or would it still be habitable? OR, would the Earth stop spinning AND stop moving (around the sun) OR just stop spinning OR just stop moving? Cause if it stopped moving that would mean it wouldn't be in orbit and would be gravitated into the sun and we'd definitely all die. BUT, if it just stopped spinning would it still be habitable? Or would everything die due to the new weathers and season cycles and eventually (over many thousands of years) adapt and life would start spreading again? Would the seasons be the same but there was no night and day? In fact, wouldn't certain parts never be bright or always be bright (the north and south poles) cause the Earth is on an axis and the north pole isn't lined up with the north of the sun and the south pole isn't' lined up with the south of the sun? Would there be months when it's always sunny and months when it's always dark in many places? Also due to the changed weather patterns would there be extreme weather or no weather?
      I have more questions but no one is going to read all that junk above this but a couple people might read this little bit at the end. So for the couple people who read this bit: it's 02:56AM were (or is it where) I am and I'm not bored... Surprisingly... Actually I am wanting to watch something but for some reason I keep typing this. I should stop. Okay. It's done. I'm done. Sorry. For anyone who read this cause this is a waste of time.
      55.0658 / 55°3'56"N
      -3.5783 / 3°34'41"W
      30/07/17 3:00AM BST

    • @soyboynpc8236
      @soyboynpc8236 7 лет назад

      Joe Adam I personaly dont care what would hapend,I just want to get of(+its imposible that Terra would stop spinning aroundvthe sun and its own axis)

  • @ShavaNerad
    @ShavaNerad 2 года назад +1

    I'd be interested to see a study that compares the reactions of the face blind (e.g. lots of people on the autism spectrum) to this. I wonder if we make better or worse decisions given that we have to get to know the book, not just the cover?

  • @yohopirate
    @yohopirate 7 лет назад +15

    Testosterone, the hormone of the gods

  • @khaliffoster3777
    @khaliffoster3777 6 лет назад +2

    It tells you that from within the most beautiful and handsome that is feminine and masculinity as visually most important base on your hormones, but it is inside that count that most and you work hard against to your natural programming and adjust your hormones after all, hormones affect behavior, so it is not natural as automatically, it is about work that we must do to feel attract forever to friends, babies, anything, so behavior is the dominance over hormones, that is why there is problem because they rely hormones more than work there are divorce, ignoring friends, etc, this is good proof that we must work unlike animals are in control of themselves thru hormones, we are in control of ourselves thru our work that beat the hormones to success. So, it is not natural, but nurture that we pick behavior that is new which it becomes learns and keep what we learn, not lost what we learn, because we can unlearn the negative by action or un-except unlearn the positive by action or non-action so it becomes negative, like divorce, not interest in friends, etc, so best to keep it. So, it depends by action, positive or negative. So, it is good title that will help to understand love and to change from hate to love, or non-love to love, well, to range of positive that is like to love. So, those hormones do affect transmitter in our brains that is positive and negative. It is good that is need for people that are in jail and people that are mean in jail, that is guards or visual stuff in jail like bathroom in open, and other stuff. So, all is connect, not separate as one issue, but other issues. One issue that is attract to beauty, but attract to right and wrong by our action.

  • @Keon994
    @Keon994 6 лет назад +10

    I'm attracted to hyper feminine-hyper masculine women. So basically really pretty feminine women who are tall, work out with weights and have muscle.

    • @silviafox78
      @silviafox78 5 лет назад

      I think you just have a muscle fetish and otherwise normal.

    • @simon4082
      @simon4082 4 года назад +2

      Weirdo

  • @WilliamSmith-gj8wc
    @WilliamSmith-gj8wc 4 года назад

    Anyone else not getting in audio, but heard the ad before it just fine?

  • @MoniBahaa
    @MoniBahaa 6 лет назад +3

    I don't need this kind of negativity in my life.

  • @jackthompson7929
    @jackthompson7929 4 года назад +2

    She’s very attractive

  • @MandySuju
    @MandySuju 5 лет назад +36

    I feel like I lost 16min of my life... OK, I understand her point, but... How to use this information? How to apply it? It doesnt seem useful at all.

    • @JoshuaTorresBerrocal
      @JoshuaTorresBerrocal 5 лет назад +9

      That's the problem with this video. Usually we expect to learn and apply something from a TED video. You can't apply anything from this video, just ack the fact that if you are not high 'hormone' you are f*** up.

    • @1992jamo
      @1992jamo 5 лет назад +9

      Why should it be useful? It's interesting because it provides insight into how we think...

    • @matthewaleman4401
      @matthewaleman4401 4 года назад +4

      It’s science most knowledge is completely useless but people still find it interesting for example history is completely useless for the most part but I still love history

    • @mnomiq
      @mnomiq 4 года назад +1

      New knowledge change your thinking pattern, with or without your noticing of it. That's how people evolved. It's not a training session.

  • @jackdaniel8628
    @jackdaniel8628 6 лет назад +2

    So in other words, always look for a partner you can develop a non-physical relationship with, even if you're hormone crazy.

  • @MewWolf5
    @MewWolf5 6 лет назад +19

    Anyone else notice that the "prototype" faces are white?

    • @SomeoneBeginingWithI
      @SomeoneBeginingWithI 6 лет назад +9

      yeah. these kinds of studies are often biased to only look at white people. That kind of bias is a big problem in academia.

    • @Mechadroid-ki7jr
      @Mechadroid-ki7jr 6 лет назад +26

      SomeoneBeginingWithI No way. The study was done in the USA, a white majority nation so it’s no surprise the models will be white. If it was done in China the models would be Chinese.

    • @ag2407
      @ag2407 5 лет назад

      Mechadroid 3000 I know right it’s almost impossible to find a minority in America (sarcasm)

  • @canadianslumbaparty
    @canadianslumbaparty 7 лет назад +2

    Wait a second, wouldn't the claim that being more hyperfeminine or hypermasculine within your gender leads to better health outcomes be a bit confounded due to the fact that those individuals receive preferential treatment in almost every culture?

    • @warptens5652
      @warptens5652 5 лет назад +2

      if masculine men get preferential treatment and are therefore more healthy, then masculine men are more healthy.
      It doesn't have to be a direct causal link in order to be selected by evolution.

  • @thehypercasual385
    @thehypercasual385 6 лет назад +5

    I'M TRIGGERED

  • @lauraj4435
    @lauraj4435 7 лет назад +1

    Wow, what a fascinating topic!

  • @unho126
    @unho126 6 лет назад +13

    **quiet suffering**

  • @RK-su4hs
    @RK-su4hs Год назад

    Astute lady who communicates very well
    Bottom line: the primary drive is survival
    The secondary is procreation
    Which of course leads back to survival
    Better looking equals better health equals greater desirability
    Feeds back to primary sldrive

  • @uzefulvideos3440
    @uzefulvideos3440 6 лет назад +4

    flipping a coin is not a competitive task.

    • @warptens5652
      @warptens5652 5 лет назад +2

      if you're flipping a coin against someone it's competitive

  • @user-xw1yh2py4j
    @user-xw1yh2py4j 6 лет назад +9

    Honestly, I find the ones rated the "most attractive" to often be the least attractive. I was always a fan of the more androgynous looks than anything.

    • @ST-yc7uj
      @ST-yc7uj 4 года назад

      Hello, Pi :)

  • @mistymouse1039
    @mistymouse1039 7 лет назад +3

    What if I like women? Then do I feel more attracted to masculine women when my testosterone is high?

  • @leleeevibss9363
    @leleeevibss9363 4 года назад

    So being masculine doesn’t have much to do with attraction, but level of compatibility.

  • @carotadeel
    @carotadeel 7 лет назад +4

    Can you artificially increase your estrogen and progesterone levels (f.e. taking drugs that increase certain hormone levels) to look more feminine? Will it change the physical appearance of a person taking such drugs?

  • @marialevkovytska3606
    @marialevkovytska3606 7 лет назад +2

    and may the hormones be ever in your favor....

  • @TheRealValus
    @TheRealValus 7 лет назад +39

    This upsets my political ideology, ergo untrue!

    • @NeglectedField
      @NeglectedField 6 лет назад +2

      Sadly that's the sort of level of comments we're gonna get with such a touchy subject.

    • @synonymous_
      @synonymous_ 6 лет назад +2

      I dunno, I don't see how this has to do with politics... I do think the research is flawed though, sort of disregarding the fact that literally every human has a different hormonal profile...

  • @welewele3
    @welewele3 7 лет назад +1

    though our sexual dimorphisms are becoming less and less as time goes on..

  • @DallasPricegraphicdesign
    @DallasPricegraphicdesign 7 лет назад +12

    Short story shorter? ... We already knew that Testosterone influences judgement ... You have a long conversation for nothing

    • @amonyubo1305
      @amonyubo1305 6 лет назад +1

      Maybe you knew. I'm sure there are people out there that didn't and still don't know this.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena 7 лет назад

    This subject could not be explained properly in a short video which is why some in the comments section have disagreement with the lecturer despite presenting evidences resulted from years of research.

  • @somethingfunnyandcreative4854
    @somethingfunnyandcreative4854 7 лет назад +88

    I always go for feminine men and im a very feminine women I've been told before that my estrogen levels are high and it seems like the guys I date have low T so I wonder what that means plus ive always been told im very attractive and i model but my health is very bad so idk

    • @Donnah1979
      @Donnah1979 7 лет назад +65

      It could also be because of birth control pills, if you take those.

    • @mirzamay
      @mirzamay 7 лет назад +10

      Somethingfunny Andcreative I like feminine and masculine men. It just depends.

    • @paulh.9526
      @paulh.9526 7 лет назад +42

      Your actual health doesn't matter, only your PERCIEVED health.
      Odds are you look very healthy, even if you're not.

    • @haiiithereee30
      @haiiithereee30 7 лет назад +14

      that's like my friend. she has very high estrogen levels and very feminine features, low testosterone levels and she finds feminine men very attractive. she also has very bad health, but you couldn't tell by looking at her

    • @plokijuh5830
      @plokijuh5830 7 лет назад +18

      Watch the video. It answer your question. Low T = attracted to low T men

  • @paulthompson9668
    @paulthompson9668 5 лет назад

    Interesting to see so many people offended by facts.

  • @bookguitarguy
    @bookguitarguy 7 лет назад +16

    Um... duh. SUMMARY: When people (men OR women) have higher testosterone levels, they are more attracted to the opposite sex (men for the feminine, women for the masculine), and when they have lower testosterone levels, they're less attracted. No doubt butch lesbians follow male patterns (attracted towards feminine lesbians), and feminized gay men follow female ones (attracted to masculine gays).
    That's pretty much the entire video, and you're welcome for the 16 minutes of your life I saved you. ;O))

  • @samclay2613
    @samclay2613 6 лет назад +1

    i like how when she told a joke no one laughed

    • @thereisnosanctuary6184
      @thereisnosanctuary6184 5 лет назад +2

      Sam Clay it took 10 months for someone to like your comment. But I can retract it at anytime.

  • @0live0wire0
    @0live0wire0 6 лет назад +6

    It's over for you if you're not Chad.

  • @indiciaobscure
    @indiciaobscure 6 лет назад +1

    hmm...that's interesting. I usually prefer somewhere between left and middle male face, and my tests indicate low testosterone.

  • @mnaftw
    @mnaftw 7 лет назад +8

    I like middle of the road people - androgynous