The moment these ninjas stepped upon the surface of the Rishi Moon, I knew I was gonna dread seeing them every time they're on screen because they were something rare. Not just competent, which is scary enough in minions, but overwhelmingly skilled enough for just one to make someone wary of them.
I don’t think cost would be a factor because we saw during the clone wars that both sides really didn’t care too much about budget. It’s most likely because of palpatine he probably saw how op they are and said some bs reasons to the confederacy that they shouldn’t mass produce them because it would end the war way too early than he liked.
I think the live action B2 and the HMP droid gunship in the flashbacks during the Mandalorian Season 1 really show how formidable and scary droids really were to noncombatants.
A shame they didnt expand on that further, instead focussing on retelling the same stupid story of a small rebel group punching a much larger Empire for eternity.
@@gerrittwesselink1147 Magnaguard wins unlike the BX series Magnaguards are designed to go up against Jedi and win granted despite what were shown are actually tougher than they look
@@traviskopplinger3515 Yeah, magnaguards are just built different. Literally, they were not Baktoid products like the rest of the more common droids. Also their design was supervised by Grievous, being the only droids he considered reliable as he took a part in designing their abilities and physique. Also also very advanced programming providing expertise in both melee and ranged weapons, and 2 built-in CPUs nullifying the danger of headshots.
It's a shame that General Kalani didn't join the Rebel Alliance as he would have helped formulate strategies and tactics, and leading his own Rebel cell of Battle Droids he found and reactivated at abandoned Separatist bases. And also have a sitcom nemesis banter with Captain Rex as fellow old relics of the Clone Wars while working together.
IIRC, Filoni said that after finding out about the Death Star's destruction, Kalani would recalculate the Rebels' chances of victory. He didn't say whether that recalculation would make the odds high enough for him to consider it worth joining the fight. But on the other hand, by that point the Rebels had also firmly designated themselves the "Alliance to Restore the Republic", and Kalani's entire reason for existence was to destroy the Republic. Kalani would've been a better fit for the Partisans, who simply want to destroy the Empire and don't give a damn about the Republic.
The Clones may have become veterans during the war as they survive battles against the Droid Armies, but what made the Droids deadly was that they didn’t need all of its individual droids to survive to update their protocols to make all of their new droids deadlier with new tactics and programs that made them much more effective on the battlefield.
Sounds like the Code Bullet method It didn't start with him, but he's the one guy I watched use it (which doesn't say much, since he's the only coding guy I watch), so I'm calling it that
And I'm pretty sure damaged B-1s were salvaged when possible meaning some had died multiple times. There's a few times when the occasional B-1 just gives up (or in 1 case tells the others not to shoot as the bullets would be reflected back at them) when they see a jedi which could be from past experiences.
it takes months if not years to train a soldier, not to mention 2 decades of growing up and all the resources needed to raise them to that point. you can make a droid in a few days to a few hours depending on how good your factory is, and you can download combat software onto it in a couple seconds. it's really no contest, if palpatine didn't design the clone wars to have no winner, the CIS would have won hands down.
Imagine how cool it would be to find an old battle droid factory, get it up and running again, and start a mercenary company or something. I love battle droids so much man I'm not even kidding.
The Commando droid is one of my absolute favorite soldiers of all of Star Wars. Just so incredibly badass and absolutely terrifying. They may not have been jedi killers 1-on-1, but for how "competent" they are for droids cannot be ignored.
kinda makes me wonder why the seperatists didn't just dress up a whole battalion of them like clones and send them to corusant to kill the entire republic high command.
B1 clankas: remained the same until the end Commando droids + magnaguards: got progressively scarier even at war's end (though this never lasted very long)
B1s actually got worse over time due to not being regularly maintained and stretching their processing past their intended limits with updates over the war
@@happysamoan97 the lack of maintenance got worse as the Separatists were losing the war. Maintenance only stopped when the guy who hates sand gave the shutdown order to all battle droids in the Separatist Army
I think one of the reasons they got more dreadful was that, if they weren’t regularly wiped, they could have actually learned. They could have become like clones, the more they lived, the better they got at destroying.
Regular memory wipes to keep them docile and obedient, but pair that with regular software updates based on their experiences, so they acquire new tactics and skills and more over, those skills and tactics are being uploaded to BX droids in other units, as well as new-built ones too. The keep getting smarter and deadlier with each new software patch
@@nicktechnubyte1184Eh. Commando droids were really expensive to produce besides they could’ve won the war with B1’s and B2’s. The reason they lost is because Palpatine made them lose. If Dooku killed Palpatine then the separatists would win.
@nicktechnubyte1184 no they wouldn't because the war was rigged from the start. The only way the CIS could have won is of Dooku betrayed sidious. And the BX is overrated. It's just an up armoured B1 with more advanced programming. You can (and characters have) upgraded B1s to be just as deadly. The BX is mostly super expensive due to the strong but light armour it is made from cortosis-titanium alloy and it's overated infiltration programming. You would get a much more cost effective droid by simpling useing the combat programing from BX series in standard B1s, and only used regular BXs for commando raids.
@matthiuskoenig3378 I mean to some extent, but battle droids were still extremely fragile, and with none of the agility that commando droids had. B1 programming was certainly extremely flawed, but the upgrades to servo motors certainly helped. Especially since B1s could be literally just knocked over. There's definitely a happy medium though if you made a B1 with an armored chest area and minor improvements so that battle droids could have an organic reflex speed with BX programming.
the B1 will always be iconic. people give them alot of shit, some of it deserved, but you have to keep in mind it probably costs literally nothing to make these things, the metal even looks cheap. for the cost of one clone you could probably make an entire battalion of B1s. honestly, if the CIS had spent more money on B1s while they were still getting free money from the banking clan, they could probably have just opened up as many fronts across the galaxy as possible and drained the republic through attrition.
These guys have always been my favorite battle droid variant out there and I am nearly hyped that a Commando Droid in a trench coat named ND-5 is gonna be in Star Wars Outlaws.
These things if they were somehow mass produced would be a nightmare for the clone to fight on the battlefield. If I was part of the rebel alliance, I’d be trying to find leftover commando droid models and get them back to functionality.
The BX is just an up armoured B1 chassis with new programing. And the cost was mostly with its armour. You could get regular B1s with commando droid programing and you'd get something almost as deadly while still being relatively cheap.
The rebels had no desire to field battle droids. The trauma dealt by the Droid Army was still relatively fresh throughout the Galaxy. Aside from toppling the Empire, the Rebellion was adamant about maintaining an image of humanity and compassion. Unleashing an army of cold, lifeless murder machines that already had wrought death and destruction 20 years earlier wasn't applicable with that. Plus it would have given legitimacy to Imperial propaganda which had adamantly been trying to equate the Rebellion with the Seperatists.
@@Whoopu2in legends the Rebel alliance did actually make small usage of old separatist droids in battle, as far we know they didn’t in canon, but in canon they did manage to make use of some separatist ships and other vehicles.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 in this very video it is explained they have different joints to allow them to move faster and be more agile then B1s. They are very obviously not just B1s with armour and different programing.
my reason for them being able to use the fingers when their disguised is because they can split their fingers and shrink them by retracting parts of it
A video on the Commando Droids! Finally! YES! :) 2:08-2:12: That's where the Magna Guards have them beat, even taking out their head can't stop them. 5:07-5:13: Miss opportunity, Geetsly. Here's how that line should have gone: And they would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids. And that is accurate because technically Clones are kids because of the accelerating aging as these ones would only be anywhere between 9 and 11. 5:49-6:05: One of the best arcs and a cool hallway fight.
Commandos are awesome I just wish they kept the old blaster sound for them , but I’d imagine commando’s take a certain attention divide to deal with whenever they appeared , BXs scare me due to they are tall in scale and are able to move so quickly
Commando Droids have always been an amazing droid that I feel like (if reprogrammed correctly) would make great bounty hunters. Fast, agile, deadly, feared, and able to disguise their voices (and wear human armor) to infiltrate places. Also, just want to remind everyone that there was a citadel commando that headbutted Obi-Wan at 5:58 (what a madlad)
Gather round and imagine a sentient turbolaset tower was given steroids so that it had a ridiculous rate of fire and that monstrosity was fused with a hailfire Droid but hovered like an AAT. Now give that the ability to cause Shockwaves via a seismic generator. You are now beginning to get the picture.
I think they would have been better served to have a percentage of their numbers distributed as battlefield commanders and officers amongst the standard battle droid units that made up the bulk of the army and other military forces of the separatist.
@@alexpokrandt4378 the seperatist's were already making droids to lead the b-1's, and they have enough droids that making that kind of redundancy would only cost the seperatist's time and money
Squad tactics do not equal battlefield tactics... if bx on battlefield, it would be as exampled in the video: snipers or dispatched to high priority or secondary cqc targets such as facilities/installations in proximation of the field. They are special use, not general purpose... They wouldn't necessarily serve better than commanders, because there really was little need or difference to commanders, especially on battlefield, because more commonly directives are broadcast from tactical, so commanders were already simply a redundancy in case of comms loss or lower priority, routine functions, off battlefield, such as patrols/security...
I think you guys are missing the obvious. I did not say replace the tactical droids that are commanding the entire army in a particular theater. I said distributed among the basic battledroid as a battlefield commander. Those basic units have not displayed in any way, shape, or form any tactical comprehension at all. At this point, any droid that possesses any form of tactical understanding, even if it is as a special forces unit, would be capable of doing a better job of making sure the objectives are achieved. As well as having the actual intent of the tactical droids orders carried out. Basically, the tactical droids seem to require something resembling a common sense officer unit between them and the basic droids.
As we saw in the bad batch season 2 with Cody and Crosshairs just how effective regular b1’s were as a unit when properly maintained; as well as a good tactical droid.
The biggest thing about production is that they work on producing both cheaper and easier to produce. If they learned how to produce these lethal commando droids into a mass produced infantry with their advance combat abilities they could have overwhelmed the clones with sheer skill. The fact that not only were they fighting an all out War but they never fully utilized the advantages that their designs offered that could have saved them countless amount of money.
This was by design, the sith hindered the separatists in numerous stories. Including improving the programing if the mass produced droids. The BX is just an up armoured B1 with better programing. Mister bones proves you can get soemthing almost as deadly from a regular B1 (ie a B1 with BX programing)
I remember hearing that the battle droids were modeled after insects. You can clearly see this, especially in the B1 and Droidekas.. B2s a little less, I'd say. It's good to see that they kept the continuity with this in the Commando droids as well. I can't recall the first time I saw them (would be nice, I'd like to be able to remember my reaction). As the TV-series advanced, I was glad to see more variety in the droids and their abilities. Of course, the B1s I think remain my favorites to this day. I know, I know, they got a little annoying in the show. With personalities and all that. But the small child in me enjoyed that thoroughly! Good and very informative video! Thanks for this one :)
Wouldn't change anything, it would maybe make it a little harder for the Sith to have a GAR victory, but where there is a will (and total control over the inhibition modules and tactics of the Battle droids) there's a way.
I mean. Commando’s were much more expensive to make and represented a significant investment in terms of hardware and price. It wouldn’t have been that simple. But even for the argument that the CIS should’ve adopted them as the main model and forgoing quantity as its main strength, it ignores that the separatists were primarily fighting a defensive war against an industrially superior opponent. B1s have a lot of value in holding large swaths of ground because of their numbers. Commandos aren’t as useful on the defensive as they are on the offensive, and the CIS would struggle to defend their worlds with much fewer droids
@@vibechecktsundere4912 exactly. the B1 did everything it needed to. they were cheap, easy to make alot of, and needed very little logistics to keep in the fight. instead of needing to feed and water and entertain an entire army, you just have to make sure you have a power source. in a world where FUSION exists and is widespread.
My favorite part about the BX was their adaptability. They setup ambushes, rushed enemies when they knew they were outnumbered, and took control of surrounding weapons. These guys fought dirty, and used everything around them to win.
I always said when we played Battlefront with my friends that while they were easy picking for Jedi, B2s were probably absolutely horrifying from the clones perspecitve. I mean, imagine a murder machine twice your size and probably 3 times your weight closing in on you fearlessly while spewing lazers from its hand.
Seems like the two of us are men of culture. Swear to God playing on kashyyyk with 1-2 good commando droid players is basically the equivalent of the entire Vietcong on the ho chi minh trail.
When they were introduced it took two of the very best clone commanders and several normal clones to take out a single squad of the mfs, then they gradually got nerfed into slightly higher level bad guys, remember how they could stomach several direct blaster hits like it was nothing? Yeah that went away later on because plot armor
a question? what if the CIS secretly found the Starforge (it's fragments, or a similar Rakatan station capable of rapid autonomous production), and used it or multiple stations in unison, to create enormous battlions and armadas of droids (all types CIS droids) and warships for the CIS?
@@JamesMDavis1You must enjoy making bad comments 😂. You seemed to have missed their comment completely- notice they mentioned fragments of it or a station with similar capabilities.
@@JamesMDavis1 it's a what if thought, so it's a good starting point for something, maybe a what if story oneshot, a fanfic, or some really hilarious art comission. i just want some ideas for consideration.
The CIS already had that. You do understand that the CIS was holding back most of their forces as part of the Sith Grand Plan right? There were trillions of battle droids on Geonosis alone, and yet only 3 million CIS personnel are actually are involved in the battle.
I'm frequently perplexed as to why the Clone Army did not use Ion weaponry far more frequently when fighting the Droids. Even if only one member of a squad carried an Ion pulse weapon, either blaster, rifle, whatever, they could have shut down Droids en mass making dispatch of them a LOT easier.
in a mod called Republic at War (for Star Wars Empire at War), I had only a handful commando droids and they WIPED OUT a entire battalion of Clone Troopers Even I (the one controlling the Commando Droids) was like, "These things need a nerf"
Besides from the Magna Guards, these guys were the most deadly droid on any battle field. These guys were a jack of trades. The CIS had a big advantage in terms of creating deadly droids on their side. But Palpatine made sure the Separatist and Republic never have an advantage over the other.
If the commando droids were real I’d definitely keep a group of them around as bodyguards. It’s what surprises me about the SW universe that you don’t see them in pirate armies and ships etc.
My personal head canon is that the BX is so expensive to produce because they require highly precise quality control, fabrication tolerances and easy access to replacement parts to keep up their high agility maneuvres and ability to take a couple of hits and maintain combat capabilities. Great for high risk - high reward missions, bad for a general purpose droid that yes, might charge a heavily defended line but more likely will be on guard duty or man a console on a ship.
I think people are forgetting that Cad Bane got two of these on one of the biggest missions ever; capturing extremely important senators in the heart of the republic. Goes to show how effective they really are and that Cad got them for a reason
Disney kind of missed out on a story about one or more of these guys escaping the shutdown command at the end of the Clone Wars and becoming assassins or bounty hunters. Perhaps they became smart enough to figure out how to upgrade their bodies and thus became deadlier.
While I do like the B1’s (cause they’re somewhat relatable). BX droids are pretty awesome I. Their own right .watching them skillfully dodge blaster shots while easily taking out clones is quite cool. Their designs are pretty neat too.
Always on the par when it comes to the perfect ideal of covert special ops and the aesthetic of coldness, calculated perfectionism, and fearmongering. Damn shame they don't seem to fully exist in the Legends-verse, though. All those recorded files saying otherwise just don't seem right with those incongruous mentions of a traitorous Barriss Offee (stayed loyal and died on Felucia) and the death of Adi Gallia by one Savage Oppress (K.I.A. by General Grievous in Boz Pity; should have died above the skies regardless).
The BX commando droids were certainly more advanced and more sophisticated than the standard B1 battle droids but were better suited for guarding high profile locations and special missions. Capturing the Republic’s moon base was a perfect way of introducing the BX commando droids, as they were more designed for missions such as that which would allow the B1 battle droids to move in and take over.
I agree that the BX was not meant to serve as mass produced canon fodder, I do still feel the CIS should have phased out the B1, put the B2 production on the B1's budget, and add the B2's original production budget to the BX's budget. At that point, you wouldn't have to change seppie tactics all that much, just use the B2 as the overwhelming numbers and the BX would fill specialist roles and fill the command gap between the T-series and the basic infantry. An army like that would give the clones a MUCH harder time and still play into Palpies plan, since the Jedi would be needed on far more fronts and be stretched even thinner
Wouldn’t putting the B2 (who would be far more expensive) on the B1 budget mean either worse quality B2s, or simply less B2s? Rather have the B2 as the main force (they look to be deployed in somewhat equal numbers after all), and add the B1 budget to the BX budget
@@jasutinborchert4418 there would be SLIGHTLY less B2's but it wouldn't be as much of a difference as you would think. I don't remember if the B2 is the same price or slightly more expensive, but I remember that the bugs used mostly the same parts on both models (except armor and weapons of course) specifically so the B2 could be built cheaply Edit: tried to get confirmation on Wookiepedia, but prices for each model were either removed or the version of the app I have doesn't show it. If anyone can confirm or deny with citation, I would appreciate it
@@etazeta674 I think the base frame is similar so similar parts, but B2s have more/better armor. We often see them needing several blaster shots to be taken down. Plus the internal weapons. So it’s probably the B1 budget plus some for for better armor and weapons
Pretty cool to see an advert for the 2024 RoboBusiness conference being held in California, during an ad break in this vid. Some of the displayed robots, had designs eerily similar to the SW: B1 Battle Droids! p.s. Great vid Geetsly's. :)
How I effectively used them on Battlefront 2: “SMOKE GRENADE!!!! Ok good done that, now to use the BX’s jump to get up high and devastate the enemy from above.”
As for the 3 finger 5 finger situation in my opinion it’s a sinister reasoning how they do it. They pull off the fingers and slide them into the gloves to fill them in. Funny to imagine a commando droid keeping clone fingers as trophy’s similar to the clone in Slick’s squad who had a necklace of droid fingers.
9:10 I feel you Lawrence. I miss the Jedi knight games. Classic battlefield. Even the janky old jango fett game for the PlayStation. We had it good growing up :/
Great video I also add that sure the separatists could've used more effective droids in every battle but palatine deliberately didn't to drag out the war on both sides for his ultimate plan of taking over the republic and turning it into a empire to rule the Galaxy.
Commando droids are terrifying i still remember that stars wars the clone wars episode were those commando droids are so infiltrated the base they were smart and ruthless
For the most part, the Separatists in the 2008 Clone Wars felt so unthreatening compared to pirates and witches. I love the 2003 Clone Wars for making the Separatists a real threat.
Idk man, they were most terrifying right after being introduced when they attacked Eeth Koth's ship. This was my first time seeing them and i was like "WHAT ARE THESE MFERS" But its quite a testiment to the clones, how they were even able to keep up sometimes. When Saw Gerrera's rebels encountered commandoes, they got completely annihilated and had to rely on Steela and just straight blowing them up with thermal detonators.
I've always wondered how the CIS army would look if the standard frontline trooper was upgraded to the B2 Supers and B1s were only found as vehicle operators/logistics instead of being the default riflemen of the confederacy How would the difference in cost and effectiveness between the B1 and B2 affect the clone war?
It would severly hamper the CIS. The only advantage of the B2 is its superior armour, which was still weak enough for heavy blaster rifles to kill easily. And canonically their programing was the same. B2s exist to force their oponents to invest in more expensive higher power blasters incase they have to face B2s and thus be less efficient against the numerous B1s. This loses its value the higher % B2s become.
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The moment these ninjas stepped upon the surface of the Rishi Moon, I knew I was gonna dread seeing them every time they're on screen because they were something rare. Not just competent, which is scary enough in minions, but overwhelmingly skilled enough for just one to make someone wary of them.
Ninjas! Robots! Ninja robots!!!
Ninja Go
For 300 years, we infiltrated, we grew stronger. And now THE BX EMPIRE shall RISE!
They are an absolute terror when you're playing jedi survivor.
Zane lego ninjago
Reasons the BX didn’t replace the B1
1)Too expensive
2)Looses number advantage
3)Palpatine
Yeah 3 is the most obvious one because he's playing both sides of the war
I don’t think cost would be a factor because we saw during the clone wars that both sides really didn’t care too much about budget. It’s most likely because of palpatine he probably saw how op they are and said some bs reasons to the confederacy that they shouldn’t mass produce them because it would end the war way too early than he liked.
3 is incorrect. If Palpatine wasn't involved B1s wouldn't be as 'bad' as they seemed to be. They would have used better strategies and stuff.
Loses*
Droids would have easily won the war if both sides fought fairly.
I think the live action B2 and the HMP droid gunship in the flashbacks during the Mandalorian Season 1 really show how formidable and scary droids really were to noncombatants.
A shame they didnt expand on that further, instead focussing on retelling the same stupid story of a small rebel group punching a much larger Empire for eternity.
I'm honestly surprised the Commando Droids use as diplomatic escorts was not mentioned.
Speak softly and carry a big stick.
They where way to underpowered.
I want to see an IG-100 go up against a BX
@@gerrittwesselink1147 Magnaguard wins unlike the BX series Magnaguards are designed to go up against Jedi and win granted despite what were shown are actually tougher than they look
@@traviskopplinger3515 Yeah, magnaguards are just built different. Literally, they were not Baktoid products like the rest of the more common droids. Also their design was supervised by Grievous, being the only droids he considered reliable as he took a part in designing their abilities and physique. Also also very advanced programming providing expertise in both melee and ranged weapons, and 2 built-in CPUs nullifying the danger of headshots.
It's a shame that General Kalani didn't join the Rebel Alliance as he would have helped formulate strategies and tactics, and leading his own Rebel cell of Battle Droids he found and reactivated at abandoned Separatist bases.
And also have a sitcom nemesis banter with Captain Rex as fellow old relics of the Clone Wars while working together.
Would love to see that so bad
I know right? He’d be a great asset.
The rebellion probably wouldn't use too many separatist droids to avoid falling into imperial propaganda.
There were Separatist hold out factions that did join the rebel alliance. But I would also like to see General Kalani join the rebels.
IIRC, Filoni said that after finding out about the Death Star's destruction, Kalani would recalculate the Rebels' chances of victory. He didn't say whether that recalculation would make the odds high enough for him to consider it worth joining the fight.
But on the other hand, by that point the Rebels had also firmly designated themselves the "Alliance to Restore the Republic", and Kalani's entire reason for existence was to destroy the Republic. Kalani would've been a better fit for the Partisans, who simply want to destroy the Empire and don't give a damn about the Republic.
The Clones may have become veterans during the war as they survive battles against the Droid Armies, but what made the Droids deadly was that they didn’t need all of its individual droids to survive to update their protocols to make all of their new droids deadlier with new tactics and programs that made them much more effective on the battlefield.
Ah, the old throw-your-corpse-at-it-until-you-learn-what-works technique, or as I call it, _"Ol' Reliable."_
Sounds like the Code Bullet method
It didn't start with him, but he's the one guy I watched use it (which doesn't say much, since he's the only coding guy I watch), so I'm calling it that
A clever man learns from his mistakes.
A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
And I'm pretty sure damaged B-1s were salvaged when possible meaning some had died multiple times. There's a few times when the occasional B-1 just gives up (or in 1 case tells the others not to shoot as the bullets would be reflected back at them) when they see a jedi which could be from past experiences.
it takes months if not years to train a soldier, not to mention 2 decades of growing up and all the resources needed to raise them to that point. you can make a droid in a few days to a few hours depending on how good your factory is, and you can download combat software onto it in a couple seconds. it's really no contest, if palpatine didn't design the clone wars to have no winner, the CIS would have won hands down.
Imagine how cool it would be to find an old battle droid factory, get it up and running again, and start a mercenary company or something. I love battle droids so much man I'm not even kidding.
it would be really cool yeah
In Star wars empire at war expansion, (which is about a pirate faction rising in power) they do just that - take control of an old droid works factory
@@jimjamjimjam7700 YO THAT IS SO RAD
@@WretchedRedoran it's in the Star wars empire at war: forces of corruption add-on
Settle down, Rayvis
The Commando droid is one of my absolute favorite soldiers of all of Star Wars. Just so incredibly badass and absolutely terrifying. They may not have been jedi killers 1-on-1, but for how "competent" they are for droids cannot be ignored.
Same bro, commando droids are super cool, and there my favourite too
kinda makes me wonder why the seperatists didn't just dress up a whole battalion of them like clones and send them to corusant to kill the entire republic high command.
B1 clankas: remained the same until the end
Commando droids + magnaguards: got progressively scarier even at war's end (though this never lasted very long)
B1s actually got worse over time due to not being regularly maintained and stretching their processing past their intended limits with updates over the war
@@happysamoan97 the lack of maintenance got worse as the Separatists were losing the war. Maintenance only stopped when the guy who hates sand gave the shutdown order to all battle droids in the Separatist Army
Roger Roger hey clankas our word you can’t use that you organic
@@tristynbishop6158 They where winning acording to Kalani.
@@KrissFliss he thought that way for over 20 years
I think one of the reasons they got more dreadful was that, if they weren’t regularly wiped, they could have actually learned. They could have become like clones, the more they lived, the better they got at destroying.
And eventually they might get smart enough to question why they should follow orders.
@@twistedyogertwell of outlaws is anything to go by one such commando droid may have done just that
@@ALUCARD-us3ilehhh, more likely it got reprogrammed
@@TY-km8hjRules and Exceptions.
Regular memory wipes to keep them docile and obedient, but pair that with regular software updates based on their experiences, so they acquire new tactics and skills and more over, those skills and tactics are being uploaded to BX droids in other units, as well as new-built ones too. The keep getting smarter and deadlier with each new software patch
I love the commando droids they are so freaking cool one my droid variants in star wars
If they replaced all the b1, b2 and droideka battle droids with the Bx commando droids, they could have won the war!
@@nicktechnubyte1184Eh. Commando droids were really expensive to produce besides they could’ve won the war with B1’s and B2’s. The reason they lost is because Palpatine made them lose. If Dooku killed Palpatine then the separatists would win.
@nicktechnubyte1184 no they wouldn't because the war was rigged from the start. The only way the CIS could have won is of Dooku betrayed sidious.
And the BX is overrated. It's just an up armoured B1 with more advanced programming. You can (and characters have) upgraded B1s to be just as deadly. The BX is mostly super expensive due to the strong but light armour it is made from cortosis-titanium alloy and it's overated infiltration programming.
You would get a much more cost effective droid by simpling useing the combat programing from BX series in standard B1s, and only used regular BXs for commando raids.
@matthiuskoenig3378 I mean to some extent, but battle droids were still extremely fragile, and with none of the agility that commando droids had.
B1 programming was certainly extremely flawed, but the upgrades to servo motors certainly helped. Especially since B1s could be literally just knocked over.
There's definitely a happy medium though if you made a B1 with an armored chest area and minor improvements so that battle droids could have an organic reflex speed with BX programming.
These guys are so terrifying but so cool! I still like the B1s more, but the BXs will still hold a place in my heart, and fill that heart with dread.
the B1 will always be iconic. people give them alot of shit, some of it deserved, but you have to keep in mind it probably costs literally nothing to make these things, the metal even looks cheap. for the cost of one clone you could probably make an entire battalion of B1s. honestly, if the CIS had spent more money on B1s while they were still getting free money from the banking clan, they could probably have just opened up as many fronts across the galaxy as possible and drained the republic through attrition.
These guys have always been my favorite battle droid variant out there and I am nearly hyped that a Commando Droid in a trench coat named ND-5 is gonna be in Star Wars Outlaws.
5:09 I thought for sure he was gonna say "they would've gotten away with it if weren't for you meddling clones" 😂😂😂
These things if they were somehow mass produced would be a nightmare for the clone to fight on the battlefield.
If I was part of the rebel alliance, I’d be trying to find leftover commando droid models and get them back to functionality.
The BX is just an up armoured B1 chassis with new programing. And the cost was mostly with its armour.
You could get regular B1s with commando droid programing and you'd get something almost as deadly while still being relatively cheap.
The rebels had no desire to field battle droids. The trauma dealt by the Droid Army was still relatively fresh throughout the Galaxy. Aside from toppling the Empire, the Rebellion was adamant about maintaining an image of humanity and compassion. Unleashing an army of cold, lifeless murder machines that already had wrought death and destruction 20 years earlier wasn't applicable with that. Plus it would have given legitimacy to Imperial propaganda which had adamantly been trying to equate the Rebellion with the Seperatists.
@@Whoopu2in legends the Rebel alliance did actually make small usage of old separatist droids in battle, as far we know they didn’t in canon, but in canon they did manage to make use of some separatist ships and other vehicles.
@@ALUCARD-us3ilprecisely. I mean they weren’t exactly fighting a fair battle so you gotta take what you can.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 in this very video it is explained they have different joints to allow them to move faster and be more agile then B1s. They are very obviously not just B1s with armour and different programing.
my reason for them being able to use the fingers when their disguised is because they can split their fingers and shrink them by retracting parts of it
A video on the Commando Droids! Finally! YES! :)
2:08-2:12: That's where the Magna Guards have them beat, even taking out their head can't stop them.
5:07-5:13: Miss opportunity, Geetsly. Here's how that line should have gone: And they would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids. And that is accurate because technically Clones are kids because of the accelerating aging as these ones would only be anywhere between 9 and 11.
5:49-6:05: One of the best arcs and a cool hallway fight.
Commandos are awesome I just wish they kept the old blaster sound for them , but I’d imagine commando’s take a certain attention divide to deal with whenever they appeared , BXs scare me due to they are tall in scale and are able to move so quickly
Commando Droids have always been an amazing droid that I feel like (if reprogrammed correctly) would make great bounty hunters. Fast, agile, deadly, feared, and able to disguise their voices (and wear human armor) to infiltrate places.
Also, just want to remind everyone that there was a citadel commando that headbutted Obi-Wan at 5:58 (what a madlad)
For the love of God, please cover the Protodeka. The most intimidating thing the collicoids made
YES. Would be interesting
The what?
The WHAT?!?
Gather round and imagine a sentient turbolaset tower was given steroids so that it had a ridiculous rate of fire and that monstrosity was fused with a hailfire Droid but hovered like an AAT. Now give that the ability to cause Shockwaves via a seismic generator. You are now beginning to get the picture.
@@Gegengrupenfuhrursounds like a fucking nightmare to face.
6:47 i dont think bxs are better in every way. b1's humor is outstanding in the galaxy
Thanks for giving the B1 some love at the end
I think they would have been better served to have a percentage of their numbers distributed as battlefield commanders and officers amongst the standard battle droid units that made up the bulk of the army and other military forces of the separatist.
No they wouldn't. They are not command droids. They are commandos. Better at fighting does not mean better at leading/commanding.
@@alexpokrandt4378 the seperatist's were already making droids to lead the b-1's, and they have enough droids that making that kind of redundancy would only cost the seperatist's time and money
Squad tactics do not equal battlefield tactics... if bx on battlefield, it would be as exampled in the video: snipers or dispatched to high priority or secondary cqc targets such as facilities/installations in proximation of the field. They are special use, not general purpose... They wouldn't necessarily serve better than commanders, because there really was little need or difference to commanders, especially on battlefield, because more commonly directives are broadcast from tactical, so commanders were already simply a redundancy in case of comms loss or lower priority, routine functions, off battlefield, such as patrols/security...
I think you guys are missing the obvious. I did not say replace the tactical droids that are commanding the entire army in a particular theater. I said distributed among the basic battledroid as a battlefield commander. Those basic units have not displayed in any way, shape, or form any tactical comprehension at all. At this point, any droid that possesses any form of tactical understanding, even if it is as a special forces unit, would be capable of doing a better job of making sure the objectives are achieved. As well as having the actual intent of the tactical droids orders carried out.
Basically, the tactical droids seem to require something resembling a common sense officer unit between them and the basic droids.
@@dawall3732 oh, yeah that does sound good, although it des add a few more links in the chain of command.
I'm soo glad that, by the time "Republic commandos" game was released, these guys weren't introduced yet. I have enough B2 nightmares already
As a kid, I for one was always concerned when I saw a Commando Droid on screen. Those things are dangerous.
As we saw in the bad batch season 2 with Cody and Crosshairs just how effective regular b1’s were as a unit when properly maintained; as well as a good tactical droid.
Droideka and the Droid Commandos are two of my favorite. Right up there with the Buzz droids
The biggest thing about production is that they work on producing both cheaper and easier to produce. If they learned how to produce these lethal commando droids into a mass produced infantry with their advance combat abilities they could have overwhelmed the clones with sheer skill.
The fact that not only were they fighting an all out War but they never fully utilized the advantages that their designs offered that could have saved them countless amount of money.
This was by design, the sith hindered the separatists in numerous stories. Including improving the programing if the mass produced droids.
The BX is just an up armoured B1 with better programing. Mister bones proves you can get soemthing almost as deadly from a regular B1 (ie a B1 with BX programing)
Headcanon- two of those fingers split.
I remember hearing that the battle droids were modeled after insects. You can clearly see this, especially in the B1 and Droidekas.. B2s a little less, I'd say. It's good to see that they kept the continuity with this in the Commando droids as well. I can't recall the first time I saw them (would be nice, I'd like to be able to remember my reaction). As the TV-series advanced, I was glad to see more variety in the droids and their abilities. Of course, the B1s I think remain my favorites to this day. I know, I know, they got a little annoying in the show. With personalities and all that. But the small child in me enjoyed that thoroughly!
Good and very informative video! Thanks for this one :)
remember who designed them, Geonosians.
Your companion droid in Star Wars Outlaws is reprogrammed Commando Droid. That will be fun to see!
7:46 Filoni caring whether standard goons are still a threat 😂 😮 How mighty have fallen to clowning on death troopers.
It´s funny when you hear the BX and B1´s talk to each in Jedi Survivor.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the b2s that were lightsaber and blaster resistant mentioned in thrawn: alliances
Cortosis B2s?
@@moderndemon84 That's a thing?
@@DromusTH Yes,in both Legends and Canon.
So much of my favourite droid, my laat flight crew consists of 5
Imagine if all the b1s were replaced with commando droids. That is a scary thought.
Wouldn't change anything, it would maybe make it a little harder for the Sith to have a GAR victory, but where there is a will (and total control over the inhibition modules and tactics of the Battle droids) there's a way.
I mean. Commando’s were much more expensive to make and represented a significant investment in terms of hardware and price. It wouldn’t have been that simple.
But even for the argument that the CIS should’ve adopted them as the main model and forgoing quantity as its main strength, it ignores that the separatists were primarily fighting a defensive war against an industrially superior opponent. B1s have a lot of value in holding large swaths of ground because of their numbers. Commandos aren’t as useful on the defensive as they are on the offensive, and the CIS would struggle to defend their worlds with much fewer droids
@@vibechecktsundere4912 exactly. the B1 did everything it needed to. they were cheap, easy to make alot of, and needed very little logistics to keep in the fight. instead of needing to feed and water and entertain an entire army, you just have to make sure you have a power source. in a world where FUSION exists and is widespread.
I always took it as the BX essentially meant 10. Meaning they had the power and effectiveness of 10 B1s. Cool, little number naming details
I would personally love to hear about the Corporate Alliance Tank Droid, I remember always seeing them in the backgrounds.
Been wanting to see a live action version of the commando droid since 2008
The blaster sounds for em are just perfect I love em
The best droid model in Separatist Droid Army
I must confess, if I was a clone or a jedi I would be more terrified to meet commando droids than droidekas.
4:11 Yooo! The stun stick!
My favorite part about the BX was their adaptability. They setup ambushes, rushed enemies when they knew they were outnumbered, and took control of surrounding weapons. These guys fought dirty, and used everything around them to win.
I always said when we played Battlefront with my friends that while they were easy picking for Jedi, B2s were probably absolutely horrifying from the clones perspecitve. I mean, imagine a murder machine twice your size and probably 3 times your weight closing in on you fearlessly while spewing lazers from its hand.
The commando droid is basically a clone trooper their smart, well equipped, and it could be used for multiple task
My all time favourite killer droids, they threw a helpless B1 at a clone trooper to kill them.. love them !!
Droid Commandos are my favorite Battle Droid variant of all time.
Few droids make me legitimately nervous like the commando droids
Imagine all B2 droids were replaced for commando droids.
I love commander droids there easily my favorite new battle droids of the clone wars
I used to hold entire servers by the balls with the Commando droid in Battlefront 2 Utilising the infinite dash technique
Seems like the two of us are men of culture. Swear to God playing on kashyyyk with 1-2 good commando droid players is basically the equivalent of the entire Vietcong on the ho chi minh trail.
5:07 you missed the perfect chance to say, "and they would've gotten away with t too, If it weren't for those meddling routine inspectors."
When they were introduced it took two of the very best clone commanders and several normal clones to take out a single squad of the mfs, then they gradually got nerfed into slightly higher level bad guys, remember how they could stomach several direct blaster hits like it was nothing? Yeah that went away later on because plot armor
This and the K2 droids are my favorites!
These guys are my favorite. I’ve always wanted a model or an action figure.
Imagine being a Republic Senator and having to worry about one of the Coruscant Guard troopers in your escort being a Commando Droid in disguise.
The CIS: (produces advanced Commando Droids capable of taking down Clone Troopers)
The Republic: This is Captain Rex. He goes "Roger - roger".
a question?
what if the CIS secretly found the Starforge (it's fragments, or a similar Rakatan station capable of rapid autonomous production), and used it or multiple stations in unison, to create enormous battlions and armadas of droids (all types CIS droids) and warships for the CIS?
The Starforge was destroyed way before the Clone Wars so that would be impossible.
@@JamesMDavis1You must enjoy making bad comments 😂. You seemed to have missed their comment completely- notice they mentioned fragments of it or a station with similar capabilities.
@@JamesMDavis1 it's a what if thought, so it's a good starting point for something,
maybe a what if story oneshot,
a fanfic, or some really hilarious art comission.
i just want some ideas for consideration.
The CIS already had that. You do understand that the CIS was holding back most of their forces as part of the Sith Grand Plan right? There were trillions of battle droids on Geonosis alone, and yet only 3 million CIS personnel are actually are involved in the battle.
I'm frequently perplexed as to why the Clone Army did not use Ion weaponry far more frequently when fighting the Droids. Even if only one member of a squad carried an Ion pulse weapon, either blaster, rifle, whatever, they could have shut down Droids en mass making dispatch of them a LOT easier.
in a mod called Republic at War (for Star Wars Empire at War), I had only a handful commando droids and they WIPED OUT a entire battalion of Clone Troopers
Even I (the one controlling the Commando Droids) was like, "These things need a nerf"
B1’s also weren’t the most effective on their own, but it was basically like every time one died, three more were built
Besides from the Magna Guards, these guys were the most deadly droid on any battle field. These guys were a jack of trades. The CIS had a big advantage in terms of creating deadly droids on their side. But Palpatine made sure the Separatist and Republic never have an advantage over the other.
Damn the droid commandos were badass and scary, just a nightmare.
A few HMP gunships each toting BKs & a pair of Droidekas would have been terrifying.
If the commando droids were real I’d definitely keep a group of them around as bodyguards.
It’s what surprises me about the SW universe that you don’t see them in pirate armies and ships etc.
The empire was surprising pretty thorough with disposal. Only thing they didn't dispose is long abandon outpost
I love watching your battle droid videos! It would be super cool to hear you talk about the t-series tactical droids.
My personal head canon is that the BX is so expensive to produce because they require highly precise quality control, fabrication tolerances and easy access to replacement parts to keep up their high agility maneuvres and ability to take a couple of hits and maintain combat capabilities. Great for high risk - high reward missions, bad for a general purpose droid that yes, might charge a heavily defended line but more likely will be on guard duty or man a console on a ship.
I think people are forgetting that Cad Bane got two of these on one of the biggest missions ever; capturing extremely important senators in the heart of the republic. Goes to show how effective they really are and that Cad got them for a reason
Disney kind of missed out on a story about one or more of these guys escaping the shutdown command at the end of the Clone Wars and becoming assassins or bounty hunters. Perhaps they became smart enough to figure out how to upgrade their bodies and thus became deadlier.
I'm looking forward to learning more about ND-5 (The Commando Droid turned Smuggler) when Star Wars: Outlaws comes out
If the BX-series Droid Commandos have their own series like the Bad Batch, will anyone watched such a series?
5:08 he should have said “and they would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling clones.”
While I do like the B1’s (cause they’re somewhat relatable). BX droids are pretty awesome I. Their own right .watching them skillfully dodge blaster shots while easily taking out clones is quite cool. Their designs are pretty neat too.
Always on the par when it comes to the perfect ideal of covert special ops and the aesthetic of coldness, calculated perfectionism, and fearmongering.
Damn shame they don't seem to fully exist in the Legends-verse, though. All those recorded files saying otherwise just don't seem right with those incongruous mentions of a traitorous Barriss Offee (stayed loyal and died on Felucia) and the death of Adi Gallia by one Savage Oppress (K.I.A. by General Grievous in Boz Pity; should have died above the skies regardless).
The BX commando droids were certainly more advanced and more sophisticated than the standard B1 battle droids but were better suited for guarding high profile locations and special missions. Capturing the Republic’s moon base was a perfect way of introducing the BX commando droids, as they were more designed for missions such as that which would allow the B1 battle droids to move in and take over.
I agree that the BX was not meant to serve as mass produced canon fodder, I do still feel the CIS should have phased out the B1, put the B2 production on the B1's budget, and add the B2's original production budget to the BX's budget. At that point, you wouldn't have to change seppie tactics all that much, just use the B2 as the overwhelming numbers and the BX would fill specialist roles and fill the command gap between the T-series and the basic infantry. An army like that would give the clones a MUCH harder time and still play into Palpies plan, since the Jedi would be needed on far more fronts and be stretched even thinner
Wouldn’t putting the B2 (who would be far more expensive) on the B1 budget mean either worse quality B2s, or simply less B2s? Rather have the B2 as the main force (they look to be deployed in somewhat equal numbers after all), and add the B1 budget to the BX budget
@@jasutinborchert4418 there would be SLIGHTLY less B2's but it wouldn't be as much of a difference as you would think. I don't remember if the B2 is the same price or slightly more expensive, but I remember that the bugs used mostly the same parts on both models (except armor and weapons of course) specifically so the B2 could be built cheaply
Edit: tried to get confirmation on Wookiepedia, but prices for each model were either removed or the version of the app I have doesn't show it. If anyone can confirm or deny with citation, I would appreciate it
@@etazeta674 I think the base frame is similar so similar parts, but B2s have more/better armor. We often see them needing several blaster shots to be taken down. Plus the internal weapons. So it’s probably the B1 budget plus some for for better armor and weapons
Pretty cool to see an advert for the 2024 RoboBusiness conference being held in California, during an ad break in this vid. Some of the displayed robots, had designs eerily similar to the SW: B1 Battle Droids! p.s. Great vid Geetsly's. :)
How I effectively used them on Battlefront 2: “SMOKE GRENADE!!!! Ok good done that, now to use the BX’s jump to get up high and devastate the enemy from above.”
I still remember how deadly these things were on the moon episode.
As for the 3 finger 5 finger situation in my opinion it’s a sinister reasoning how they do it. They pull off the fingers and slide them into the gloves to fill them in. Funny to imagine a commando droid keeping clone fingers as trophy’s similar to the clone in Slick’s squad who had a necklace of droid fingers.
9:10 I feel you Lawrence. I miss the Jedi knight games. Classic battlefield. Even the janky old jango fett game for the PlayStation. We had it good growing up :/
They also mopped up squads of rebels on Onderon with some sick backflips.
Great video I also add that sure the separatists could've used more effective droids in every battle but palatine deliberately didn't to drag out the war on both sides for his ultimate plan of taking over the republic and turning it into a empire to rule the Galaxy.
I think I've got a solution to the BX Commando Droid Finger problem. What if the fingers split to mimic organic beings?
I think a few commando droids were still around even after the clone wars. Possibly as assassins or mercenaries. Others just went into hiding.
Commando droids are terrifying i still remember that stars wars the clone wars episode were those commando droids are so infiltrated the base they were smart and ruthless
For the most part, the Separatists in the 2008 Clone Wars felt so unthreatening compared to pirates and witches. I love the 2003 Clone Wars for making the Separatists a real threat.
2:50 My headcanon was that the live action design of the BX Commando Droid had four fingers, but Battlefront II ruined that.
Idk man, they were most terrifying right after being introduced when they attacked Eeth Koth's ship.
This was my first time seeing them and i was like "WHAT ARE THESE MFERS"
But its quite a testiment to the clones, how they were even able to keep up sometimes.
When Saw Gerrera's rebels encountered commandoes, they got completely annihilated and had to rely on Steela and just straight blowing them up with thermal detonators.
Love running these guys in Star Wars Legion
This is why we would have slapped the republic if Palpitine didn't intervene!
I've always wondered how the CIS army would look if the standard frontline trooper was upgraded to the B2 Supers and B1s were only found as vehicle operators/logistics instead of being the default riflemen of the confederacy
How would the difference in cost and effectiveness between the B1 and B2 affect the clone war?
It would severly hamper the CIS. The only advantage of the B2 is its superior armour, which was still weak enough for heavy blaster rifles to kill easily. And canonically their programing was the same.
B2s exist to force their oponents to invest in more expensive higher power blasters incase they have to face B2s and thus be less efficient against the numerous B1s. This loses its value the higher % B2s become.
Imagine if that machine hivemind thing managed to find a cache of BXes in deep space
😢the Star Wars battlefront sound brought back memories.
My headcanon is that the commandos' fingers split in 2, similarly to grievous' arms
I always found it weird that these droids with 3 fingers wore the clone troopers 5 fingered glove when disguising as one
Yeah you should see the ones that are 10 feet tall and have laser chainsaws. (Helldivers reference)
Me: **hits elbow**
My entire nervous system: 6:18
Essentially a sw T-800