Toyota RAV4 Hybrid v Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV v Nissan X-Trail ePower: 2023 comparison review test

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • Hybrid SUVs are all the rage at the moment, so we've pitted the 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid mid-sizer against its two latest challengers, the related Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and Nissan X-Trail ePower.
    That's right; it's a family SUV showroom with a hybrid twist! The RAV4 Hybrid has a 'self-charging' series-parallel hybrid system, while the Outlander PHEV has a plug-in version of the same set-up that drives the wheels via a petrol engine and/or electric motor, albeit with a much larger battery that enables a long electric-only driving range.
    But then there's the X-Trail ePower, which goes it alone with a self-charging series hybrid system that only uses its petrol engine as a power generator for its relatively small battery, meaning its wheels are exclusively driven by its dual electric motors, just like a proper electric car.
    Confused? Fear not, because in this expert comparison review, CarsGuide Senior Journalist Richard Berry goes through all the hybrid ins and outs while on his way to finding out which of the three family SUVs has the best hybrid system, from both driving and fuel efficiency perspectives.
    #Toyota #RAV4 #Mitsubishi #Outlander #Nissan #XTrail #Review
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    00:00 Intro
    00:48 Pricing and features
    01:47 Practicality
    02:39 Under the bonnet
    02:46 RAV4 - Under the bonnet
    03:15 Outlander - Under the bonnet
    04:10 X-Trail - Under the bonnet
    04:37 RAV4 - Driving
    05:52 Outlander - Driving
    08:29 X-Trail - Driving
    12:13 Outlander - Driving
    12:40 X-Trail - Driving
    13:02 RAV4 - Driving
    13:29 Fuel efficiency
    14:54 Verdict
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  • @e.e.williams1039
    @e.e.williams1039 8 месяцев назад +24

    Another good advantage the outlander has is the 7 seater capacity no one is talking about. As parent with 4 little kids, this is very important to me, and I believe it is important for other parents with kids out there. So, the Outlander is a pure winner. Going for it. Went to the dealership yesterday, couldn't make up my mind. But with this review and comments from real owners, I'm going for the Outlander tomorrow. Thank you one and all.

    • @ToolHombre
      @ToolHombre 8 месяцев назад

      Right? 2-row is a dealbreaker for me as well. Hope you get a good deal!

    • @EstrellaPolux
      @EstrellaPolux 8 месяцев назад +5

      7 saeter also for Nissan X-Ttrail available !

  • @rapide12345
    @rapide12345 Год назад +57

    I'd take the Outlander, it's the most versatile out of the 3.

  • @peltotalo
    @peltotalo Год назад +58

    Nice review. I've owned my outlander phev for almost a month. I've gone about 920km with just a over a quarter tank of fuel used. I think that's amazing. Love it so far.

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад +2

      yeah but how many times have you plugged it in? think about it this way, every charge topped it up with 80ks.

    • @peltotalo
      @peltotalo 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi I plug it in nightly. Easy peasy.

    • @andyhawkins7988
      @andyhawkins7988 11 месяцев назад

      @@peltotalo how much does it increase your bill, if you have noticed

    • @peltotalo
      @peltotalo 11 месяцев назад +4

      @andyhawkins7988 in Ontario it almost doubled my electricity bill from $75 to $140 monthly. About the same as one tank of gas, and I get way more kms than I used to on my one tank of gas. About $2 a day roughly.

    • @goranjurkovic6796
      @goranjurkovic6796 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah I have rav4 phev than has better economy than outlander it has more power it has much better acceleration and handling. And costs the same

  • @OlyMar83
    @OlyMar83 11 месяцев назад +33

    I would take the x trail. Purely on driving experience. 5.9 is not bad as well

  • @stephenberry1205
    @stephenberry1205 4 месяца назад +4

    My brother hired a RAV4 hybrid.
    Drove an XTrail E Force.
    Blown away by the driving experience.
    Got delivery last April. Awesome machine that does not have to be plugged in to get the EV like driving experience.

  • @EstrellaPolux
    @EstrellaPolux 8 месяцев назад +11

    For me, the Nissan X-Trail is the winner here. Justification:
    The Outlander with the plugin system is not for me because of the constant search for a socket ... that is not worth the 1.5 L/100 km consumption to me
    Yes, the Toyota has a better consumption than the Nissan, but with only 221 Nm according to the data sheet, an absolutely insufficient engine performance; with that i would fall asleep. The Nissan has 330 Nm for the front engine + 195 for the rear engine; that´s a really accetable performance. In addition the RAV4 is far more expensive than the Nissan, you´ll need to make around 50.000 km until the lower consumption has compensated for the higher acquisition costs.
    Conclusion: If I want a low consumption I´ll buy a bicycle; and if I'm looking for a balanced SUV that makes fun and looks good, then currently i would buy the Nissan X-Trail 4orce

    • @abdullahbinshahid3199
      @abdullahbinshahid3199 4 месяца назад +1

      The Toyotas torque figure is just the engine because they don't quote total torque figures. The motor torque figures are more than the engine. The RAV4 can also be had with e4wd like the other two and the HP figures at least are more than the xtrail. While driving it, it feels very different to the xtrail but in terms of performance is right on there with the xtrail e4orce. Both feel like high 6 seconds to 60

  • @thejedaru1383
    @thejedaru1383 Год назад +22

    I have my outlander exceed tourer phev for more than 3 months and drove 4000 km averaging 1.5L/100km. I love the luxurious drive experienced with very efficient fuel economy. Highly recommended and can be delivered within months.

    • @Mububban23
      @Mububban23 11 месяцев назад +1

      Are you in Oz? What was your wait time? Last time I test drove I was told 12-18 months.

    • @TonyRunko
      @TonyRunko 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Mububban23 8-10 months. I am in Melbourne

    • @ecrush5080
      @ecrush5080 9 месяцев назад

      With those Avg fuel, I am assuming U always charge up the battery every night right ?

    • @WinnieBlue
      @WinnieBlue 9 месяцев назад

      We have to remember that the Outlander is charged on a daily basis and that power has to come from somewhere. Unfortunately the majority of our grid power is still fossil fuels, as well as some of that saved money will be in your power bill. Still cheaper and probably better for the environment than the fuel pump though.
      Also, I talked to my local Mitsubishi dealer today and was given a 12 month wait time.

    • @marshallmarthes
      @marshallmarthes 5 месяцев назад

      How much did it cost you to charge it?

  • @judithgould4363
    @judithgould4363 9 месяцев назад +4

    I own an outlander in the UK and I endorse and agree with this review! I absolutely love the Outlander.

  • @legambaz
    @legambaz 11 месяцев назад +9

    And..... to enjoy motoring, I believe I'll pick the X-Trail

  • @tehsuingpai8248
    @tehsuingpai8248 6 месяцев назад +6

    E power E force its so quiet, so smooth, accelerate fast, even gas mileage is average, in a long term this new technology is reliable combine ratio14: 1 and 8 : 1, and the small pack of battery much cheaper to replace, driving to hills, mountain roads and off road drive is effortless, for me Nissan E Power

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 Год назад +13

    I would choose the Outlander 😊

  • @andremcamara3120
    @andremcamara3120 Год назад +3

    On the Outlander PHEV, the Electric motors turn the wheels. When the Battery Charge is low or you press the Save Mode, the Ice come on and merely charges the Battery, Elect Motors still turn the wheels
    At speeds over 70km/h and and you step on pedal, the ICE actually drives the front wheels, assisted by the Electric Motors.
    At highway speeds, the Outlander turns into a FWD powered by the ICE and any access power produced, charges the batteries.
    Great to have a full battery to drive in EV Mode thru the next rown or City you get to.
    I love my 2022 Outlander PHEV 13.8kWh and get 60kms per charge in Summer and 45 kms in Winter (-20 to -35'C),

  • @therealjeffg
    @therealjeffg Год назад +28

    Great review as usual Richard thank you. These comparison reviews are really useful. One thing I’d like to see for the fuel use is the actual dollar value of fuel used including the cost of the electricity used to charge the PHEV. I find just quoting a 1ltr/100km figure is a bit meaningless as it is also costing you the power used to charge the battery. Also, as you know, different cars may need different RON fuel so a dollar cost of fuel used on test including electricity used would be very interesting and useful to see.

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly, i was trying to do it the other day and worked out about $5.30 for the full charge at medium australian wholesale 23c/kw and factoring in roughly 23kws of charging and efficency losses charging the battery.
      So the fact they can say its 1.3/100 is rubbish unless you are driving very short trips and topping it up every single time, with electricity, which invalidates the 1.3l/100 claim.

    • @paulblackwood3960
      @paulblackwood3960 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi I can get 100km on a charge, Mitsi actually under quoting (for once)
      Charge input is 19kw (I put on my propeller hat and measured it) as they don't fully drain the battery. So $4.37.
      So 2.5L in gas money

  • @RichardJoashTan
    @RichardJoashTan Год назад +25

    Personally for me, it's the Outlander PHEV, in Excced Tourer form because ALL OF THE ABOVE.

  • @kirillivanilov1593
    @kirillivanilov1593 11 месяцев назад +13

    I've had the opportunity to drive an Outlander, and I found it to be a pleasant experience. It truly gives you a luxurious feel and, in my opinion, it's the most comfortable car among all the models in Mitsubishi's lineup. However, I do not like an idea of carrying around a heavy combustion engine that is not in use. Alternatively, if the engine does work, you have to carry on a 200 kg battery, which reduces the overall efficiency of the vehicle. Either way, there's an extra burden of weight to contend with all the time.
    While you do save money on fuel by utilizing electricity, when considering the price difference between the Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle and the Hybrid or petrol versions, it's not really worth it unless you drive long distances on a daily basis. Moreover, you pay a lot of money for a vehicle that you have to charge every night. In my opinion, it's better to opt for a fully electric vehicle and charge it once a week or so, rather than dealing with the inconvenience of frequent charging.
    On the other hand, Nissan offers an intriguing solution, but it's a relatively new technology. Nissan is known for having battery issues with their cars, as evident from the numerous complaints from Leaf owners who experienced premature battery failure. Therefore, this new e-power technology needs to prove its reliability over time.

    • @paulblackwood3960
      @paulblackwood3960 9 месяцев назад +2

      Pure EV has to lug around a massive battery where as the Outlander has to lug an engine (no transmission though) but only a small battery so the weight balances out really. Daily that EV only uses bits of a battery so why carry around a large battery? It's better to use the correctly sized battery and have that engine ready to go, at a moments notice, to drive you great distances without a second thought.
      Plus the peace of mind that the ICE will get you home if ever needed.
      Also, when you do need to charge that EV it's a right drama, have you seen the hordes of them gathered around charging stations like hungry wasps?
      The least efficient motoring is engine to battery, that's where the Nissan falls short for me. The outlander will directly drive the front wheels and charge on the motorway and of course motorway is the most efficient use of an ICE.
      Charging at night is not a big deal...step out and plug in...close the door.
      Outlander...easy winner and worth the month (and yes, I do have one :)

    • @lusvus5445
      @lusvus5445 5 месяцев назад

      This sister of epower proved long time ago. In Japan they sell note epower with 1.2 engine. Awesome to drive.

    • @snowbelton3253
      @snowbelton3253 5 месяцев назад

      What does the weight of the engine matter when you are using so little fuel?

  • @jeffstryker1454
    @jeffstryker1454 Год назад +11

    I’d go the Nissan .

  • @SergioCastillo87
    @SergioCastillo87 5 месяцев назад +6

    Nissan is sending the 7 seater x-trail to Latin America with 4wd, independent electric motors for front and rear. What you didn't mention is that the e-power drives effectively as an EV 100% of the time, unlike the others, so you can enjoy true linear acceleration and 0-100 kmh in less than 7s. So, if you want an electric car but don't wanna have to ever plug it in, the x-trail is the choice.

  • @wrath8183
    @wrath8183 9 месяцев назад

    Great review. Plz Can you do test with all suv of distance with 1 tank(and battery fully charged) of fuel (or same measurement of fuel) of which can travel further to get a real distance reading.

  • @RogerLanteDarklantern
    @RogerLanteDarklantern Год назад +7

    You can put the outlander in charge mode if you can't charge from a wall socket. yes it would decrease the mileage.

  • @LylesJoseph
    @LylesJoseph 8 месяцев назад +4

    Correction- The Outlander can be charged through regenerative power,braking,plug in, or charge mode through engine. It is also the only vehicle that also has a fast charger.

  • @f50koenigg
    @f50koenigg 10 месяцев назад

    Damn we have the new outlander phev, and how did you get 1.4/100k in 140 km driving? Is it because the outlander has the capability of ev only? What are the other variables?

  • @alibathawab2502
    @alibathawab2502 10 месяцев назад

    the best comparison view test which changed my mind to AWD ? thank you.

  • @twinjuke
    @twinjuke 4 месяца назад +1

    The best comparison onYT ever. I wish there was a simiral comparison for Qashqai e-Power and Corolla Cross Hybrid.

  • @snowbelton3253
    @snowbelton3253 5 месяцев назад +1

    What does it cost to charge? What level of charge does the engine take the battery to? 2 important factors not covered

  • @zaamuro8408
    @zaamuro8408 Год назад +1

    Should've included the performance figures as well Richard.

  • @lukeclifton4392
    @lukeclifton4392 Год назад +7

    A friend used to have one of the first Chevy Volt’s in Australia. It worked the almost the same way as the Xtrail. You would charge it from the wall overnight but if it ran out of battery, the engine was solely there to generate energy.
    We’ve had numerous BBQ’s where we would crank tunes from the Volt for hours (after it had already depleted the battery from long journeys)… and it was always mesmerising how it would ever so very quietly spin up the engine intermittently to keep the night going!

  • @karl6203
    @karl6203 Год назад

    How many Richard Berrys long are they though? Bring back that test! Lol

  • @gippy101
    @gippy101 Год назад +9

    my Outlander coming in 4 weeks!

  • @vincentdeepak
    @vincentdeepak Год назад +1

    Forgot to compare Haval H6 Ultra Hybrid?

  • @allanbernabe5189
    @allanbernabe5189 10 месяцев назад +3

    The regular maintenance of a car will always be a substantial fraction of the total operating cost of a vehicle. In the absence of a transmission system, and the complicated ICE & electric motor interface, I think e-Power will win overall.

  • @argent10k
    @argent10k Год назад +32

    I've got an Outlander arriving hopefully by Dec this year and I chose it over all other hybrids because of the ability to run purely in EV mode for likely 90% of my drives. It's been really well rated over many different reviews in Aust as well as over the other side of the ponds in Europe/US/Canada. The other times, I'll need to run long distance, at least I don't need to worry about the generally woeful charging infrastructure.

    • @mindfreeze0838
      @mindfreeze0838 Год назад

      And that is the point of a good PHEV, EV in the city and gas on the highway. Best of both worlds, you just have to charge it to make sense.

    • @asharamex3557
      @asharamex3557 Год назад +6

      Had my outlander Phev for 3 months and after 3500kms fueled up for the 1st time with economy averaging 1.3km/100km.

    • @therealjeffg
      @therealjeffg Год назад +1

      @@asharamex3557 do you know what it has cost you to charge your outlander over that period?

    • @asharamex3557
      @asharamex3557 Год назад +6

      It has cost approximately $80 in electricity and $60 in fuel as through the day it’s charged via household solar and overnight on household battery and grid @ 19.5c/kW. Our previous vehicle which averaged 8L/100km would have cost about $700 in fuel.

    • @argent10k
      @argent10k Год назад

      @@asharamex3557 Perhaps you can answer this question I have… have you ever tried to see how much fuel it takes to charge the outlander battery to full while simply idling the engine? I’d hazard a guess it’s considerably more efficient to do the charging while driving…

  • @rsoul7282
    @rsoul7282 Год назад

    I am mildly interested in these vehicles, however, the real headline is a Richard Berry review. Best presenter ever.

  • @yaulkwong3775
    @yaulkwong3775 9 месяцев назад

    I think if you travel to community frequently then PHEV is long term saver, if you put it to long term daily commercial/uber kind use, then RAV4 is quite good. if you go with family travel longer distance frequently, ePower could be a good choice.

  • @PeterK153
    @PeterK153 10 месяцев назад

    Another consideration with the different types of Hybrids is where you live. I live in a small country town and I am into 100 kmph driving almost straight away. Curious to know what car would be better for someone in my situation.

    • @richlawrence4160
      @richlawrence4160 3 месяца назад

      Hybrids generally give value by regenerative brakes charging the battery, so storing the energy then reusing it to boost acceleration. Acceleration and hill climbing use loads more fuel (energy) than crusing or down hill. Around town with stop start, this works, to save fuel by storing and reusing the braking energy otherwise wasted by heat in a conventional car. On the flat or undulating highway at constant speed, there is no regenerative braking, so the battery is gradually depleted and the car travels 100% on the ICE, not saving much fuel at all. The plug in would let you get the first 50 to 80 K on electric around town and at the start of the journey, and would save some fuel, but this would be minimised with long trips, as eventually it would run mostly on fuel. The regenerative only cars, would not save much fuel at all on a long highway trip, as there is no charge put into the battery other than by braking.

  • @loumyasitcomes700
    @loumyasitcomes700 Год назад +2

    Nice reviews and I’ll definitely go with RAF4

  • @gureno19
    @gureno19 7 месяцев назад

    Im more interested in pure range with no plug in top ups on the outlander, how far can you go on one tank of fuel?

    • @Elemblue2
      @Elemblue2 7 месяцев назад

      650km abouts.
      With no electric charge, it gets 6.5L/100km

  • @kcpncfs9234
    @kcpncfs9234 11 месяцев назад

    How about the Honda CRV Hybrid?

  • @timtunbridge
    @timtunbridge Год назад

    Great review and I appreciate reading everyone's comments and experiences.

  • @stendecstretcher5678
    @stendecstretcher5678 Год назад +1

    Maybe tell us how long before you can get one.

    • @Mububban23
      @Mububban23 Год назад

      Yeah it'd be relevant to say "at the time of filming, wait times were 12-18 months..." I'd love an Outlander, but if I ordered one today I likely wouldn't see it until 2025

  • @mathieularocque1953
    @mathieularocque1953 8 месяцев назад

    The Nissan X-trail most likely start the gas engine when you are below X% on the battery and keep going until it can use the brake to regen, I'm guessing it cant regen with both the engine and the regen tech at the same time so it fire up the engine and continue until it has to stop or when you are stopped so it know it can use the engine more efficiently

  • @vicksajnani80
    @vicksajnani80 16 дней назад

    For those who own the outlander PHEV, can it be driven on hybrid mode similar to Rav4? If yes what's the fuel efficiency are you getting and does it mean it doesn't have to be charged all the time?

  • @ejohnson3131
    @ejohnson3131 4 месяца назад +1

    The Outlander has different drive modes, including “Tarmac” which tightens the suspension, makes the car faster and overall more sporty, which addresses the issues you bring up about the car feeling big and “boaty”. The best option in my opinion!

  • @timmywoodward9333
    @timmywoodward9333 Год назад

    Cupra formentor hybrid????

  • @arthurmcalister1454
    @arthurmcalister1454 7 месяцев назад

    I can't find an answer to this, maybe here. With the Mitsubishi and Nissan they both have maximum regeneration mode and you can stop just by taking your foot off the accelerator. My safety question, does the brake light come on?

  • @jobanjitsingh6989
    @jobanjitsingh6989 Год назад

    What is your opinion for 😂Haval h6 ultra hybrid 2022

  • @paulblackwood3960
    @paulblackwood3960 9 месяцев назад +4

    Different opinions for different folks I guess. I found the Outlander the most premium feeling and the best handling.

    • @ejohnson3131
      @ejohnson3131 4 месяца назад +1

      That’s what every reviewer says. With the Outlander you can choose different drive modes, including Tarmac, which tightens the suspension and makes the car faster, addressing the issues this reviewer brings up.

  • @Mububban23
    @Mububban23 Год назад +23

    I could be wrong, but I believe the Outlander is the only one of these 3 to qualify for the current Fringe Benefits Tax rebate, which cuts $20,000 off the price, IF you're able to lease it through your work. So the $70k price becomes $50k effectively, plus you still get all the benefits of the Mitsubishi PHEV system.

    • @joelcolgate3683
      @joelcolgate3683 Год назад +1

      You are correct, except in our circumstances it actually saved even more than that using the FBT exemption. $40k over a 5 year lease.

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад

      @@joelcolgate3683 we are looking at doing the same, did you have a good accountant to work all this stuff out for you or just the lease company? were stuck iwth crappy lendlease i think it is, but wanted to make sure they give us the best possible deal and rebate tax wise.

    • @Bangyourbirdnumb
      @Bangyourbirdnumb 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@joelcolgate3683is there extended wait times for the Outlander through leasing as well that you experienced?

    • @citydweller4856
      @citydweller4856 10 месяцев назад

      If only. I got it priced through one of the leasing companies, they add such a massive mark up on top, they completely absorb the tax benefit. It was through Auopia. 66k PHEV Oulander would have cost me over 90k (with on road cost) over 5 years after tax.

    • @neehalkhan2926
      @neehalkhan2926 9 месяцев назад

      @@joelcolgate3683which is the leasing company u went through?

  • @cornbaby1982
    @cornbaby1982 Год назад +1

    Should compare with RAV4 phev

  • @mikesamaro
    @mikesamaro 3 месяца назад

    There is no point comparing fuel economy if the initial state of charge of the battery is different. In this case it would have made more sense to compare values with an empty battery

  • @barrythomson8770
    @barrythomson8770 Год назад +2

    Put the outlander in Tarmac mode to enhance handling.

  • @warcrabcyber9908
    @warcrabcyber9908 Год назад +13

    The conclusion on the outlander is accurate, I have seen many reviewers criticize the outlander for fuel economy. However the people reviewing the outlander don't understand how it works.
    The outlander is meant to be charged everyday and in that way you use minimal fuel. It beats the x trail and rav 4 in fuel efficiency, however ,if you don't charge the outlander it gets 27mpg functioning as a full time hybrid. On a full charge you get 80km of electric range. That's enough to take most people to work and back without even affecting the fuel.

    • @razorSH
      @razorSH Год назад

      It's not really fair to compare PHEV and HEV. Completely different concepts.

    • @warcrabcyber9908
      @warcrabcyber9908 Год назад

      @Razor# if that is the case you can't compare any hybrid vehicle at all because each company uses a different hybrid system.
      These Units are compared because, these vehicles are currently available at similar prices.

    • @razorSH
      @razorSH Год назад

      @@warcrabcyber9908 Rav4 Prime is a similar price to the Outlander. Not the regular hybrid. And of course plug ins are completely different and shouldn't be compared to regular hybrids. Because obviously the longer you go beyond the battery range the worse fuel economy you will get, unlike the regular hybrids

    • @warcrabcyber9908
      @warcrabcyber9908 Год назад

      @Razor# they are comparing what is available in that region at similar prices , the rav 4 prime is not available, even in the US the rav 4 prime is extremely difficult to get. With most people having to wait 5 - 6 months after placing an order
      Why would you compare something that is not even available to most people?
      The point is comparing what is available in that region at similar prices.
      A person can purchase an outlander and get 60 km range on electric power
      Then get 27mpg In hybrid mode with no charge.
      The Rav 4 hybrid and nissan x trail function as a hybrid full time with no plug in options.
      It's not Mitsubishi fault or the reviewers fault nissan and toyota don't have a plug in hybrid in that region for the Same price.

    • @razorSH
      @razorSH Год назад

      @@warcrabcyber9908 But what makes you say it is the same price ? Even the reviewer said that the Outlander is the most expensive. And that's completely normal, plugins have bigger batteries and more powerful electric motors. By the same logic why not include petrol vehicles in the comparison. They are available at even lower cost ?

  • @theodociocozanitis5437
    @theodociocozanitis5437 Месяц назад

    No one talked about the size of the car and how much extra it can carry inside

  • @markuc
    @markuc 10 месяцев назад

    I guess including the MG or Haval hybrids will make this setup or outcome unpalatable... Would've been much more practical, feature packed, and best value.

  • @royjulius7433
    @royjulius7433 11 месяцев назад +2

    There is an awd version of the rav 4 hybrid. It would have been beeter if you brought that version but all in all. The mitsubishi takes the day. But I also like the nissan x trail.

    • @goranjurkovic6796
      @goranjurkovic6796 9 месяцев назад +1

      There is phev awdi version of rav4 plugin hybrid. And it is over 300hp

  • @fenflyer
    @fenflyer Год назад +4

    I want to buy a Mitsubishi Delicia D5 with this Mitsi bombproof PHEV running gear 😎👏

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад

      yeah so you and your filipino wife and your wife basher singlet tops can drive aroudn town with speed dealer sunnies on... hahahah thats who buys delicas in australia.

    • @fenflyer
      @fenflyer 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Sounds like you been in the sun to long 🤣

  • @351tgv
    @351tgv 9 месяцев назад

    can confirm a few things with regards to the X-trail E:Power, even though it has about 250kg more weight over the petrol version due to the instant torque from the electric motors you won't notice it in terms of pulling power, that said ride balance is firmer over speed bumps and potholes, steering is virtually the same as petrol spec, obviously a mechanical AWD X-Trail is not as fast as electric AWD that said both offer Torque Vectoring it's just that the mechanical AWD version is slower to react, brakes rotors are a key difference, the X-trail petrol brake rotors are tiny by comparison to the X-trail E:Power.
    Fuel consumption? many reports from E:Power owners are showing around 6.5L per 100km which is respectable, not Rav4 Hybrid like but again decent enough considering its from the factory electric AWD whereas Rav4 Hybrid could be FWD or electric AWD,, petrol X-Trail reports show around 7.5L for a larger petrol NA engine, CVT and mechanical AWD, I think that is also respectable

  • @wrath8183
    @wrath8183 10 месяцев назад +2

    When you getting a Hybrid you go for fuel efficiency. No point getting one that uses heaps of fuel just to power the batteries. Otherwise you'd go full EV

  • @snoopy13946
    @snoopy13946 Год назад +15

    I’d go the Nissan. That electric acceleration and torque beats them all. And yes I’ve driven it.

    • @radissimo1
      @radissimo1 Год назад +5

      so did you drive other two as well?

    • @TYPICALTRYHARD_
      @TYPICALTRYHARD_ Год назад

      I wouldn't. Just purely based the engine itself it's too small of an engine and it's fairly new so the reliability factor is a bit iffy especially since the French own them

    • @Malc664
      @Malc664 Год назад

      @@TYPICALTRYHARD_ Yeah but the engine isn't working hard, just charging. So the size is ok but the reliability is unknown. Wait for the guinea pigs to test it 😎

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад

      @@TYPICALTRYHARD_ not only that, look at how nissan pissed all over the leaf owners and their battery packs that have died and they said meh to their customers. Nissans customer service is total rubbish, but hey thats what comes from a scumbag company.

    • @tboy5443
      @tboy5443 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TYPICALTRYHARD_hope you know that Nissan own 34 percent stake in Mitsubishi since 2016

  • @I_hate_Vegemite
    @I_hate_Vegemite 4 месяца назад

    Fuel economy is one thing, performance is another. Need to test the performance of the 4x4 on demand Outlander PHEV vs the AWD X-Trail E:Power vs the 4x4 on demand RAV-4 eFour (not the slower 2WD as tested here). Lugging a full load and overtaking times on country roads matter.

  • @kenchung126
    @kenchung126 Год назад

    when test AC not turn on

  • @yogomitsu
    @yogomitsu Год назад +2

    I like Mitsubishi Outlander

  • @arianasefzadeh564
    @arianasefzadeh564 Год назад +2

    Is the Outlander really different in Australia vs North America? How is it possible that here everybody is talking about 64 km of EV range while in Australia all reviewers are claiming 84 km. Also the fuel economy in Hybrid mode is way higher here in North America at around 9 L/100 km!!! Can you please comment on this? Much appreciated!

    • @dphilips4788
      @dphilips4788 Год назад

      I think Battery Tech + North American Winters = Less Pure EV Range. Unless they are talking about the 1st Gen Outlander PHEV which has a smaller battery.

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад

      the fuel economy in hybrid mode here is similar, jsut the fanboys are all covering it up by topping up with power all the time and not taking those charges into account.

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад

      however the australian version is a 20kw battery pack i think yours are smaller

    • @richlawrence4160
      @richlawrence4160 3 месяца назад

      Really hard to compare across markets, the manufacturers make so many changes to the specs, trim, accessories and engines etc. I have experience with UK and OZ markets, the UK equivalents seem to have smaller engines, manual transmissions and even have different names for the same car and/or trim levels. A Kia GT Sportage I hired in UK last year had different features to the same car here in Australia.

  • @dandandan3515
    @dandandan3515 Год назад +2

    70k plus on road cost. I think you can get fanny RAV4 - NX 350h base model and almost same specs with Mitsubishi.

    • @RichardJoashTan
      @RichardJoashTan Год назад +1

      Not me, I prefer the Outlander PHEV.

    • @dandandan3515
      @dandandan3515 11 месяцев назад

      @@RichardJoashTan good for you. I am worried about after 5-7 years, the battery life of the plug EV and resale value are almost the same as a normal Outlander.

  • @trudgyhd
    @trudgyhd 4 месяца назад

    Did anyone catch what mode the outlander was in for the test?

    • @carsguide
      @carsguide  4 месяца назад +1

      It was a long time ago now, but I would have had it in the Normal driving mode so that the best combination of the engine, motor and batteries could be optimised by the car's computer.
      -Richard

    • @trudgyhd
      @trudgyhd 4 месяца назад

      @@carsguide great thanks. I just wasn't sure if pure ev mode was used at any point

  • @rumax3440
    @rumax3440 9 дней назад +1

    That's not a fair test with 100 km. range, you did not count how much electricity was consumed and how much it costed comparing to petrol. A fair test would be to drive at least 500 km or even better fully charge and fill with petrol all and see how long each can drive and what will be the real consumption and costs.

  • @clubber1265
    @clubber1265 8 месяцев назад +3

    If fuel economy was the only deciding factor then it would be good to mention how many years of driving would it take for the cost of hybrids to break even with their petrol counterparts. It is here where the Outlander fails given it's high cost (not considering charging costs, charging time, capped price service and overall quality of ride).
    RAV4 has this sorted in every aspect.

  • @kbmblizz1940
    @kbmblizz1940 9 месяцев назад

    It is all about compromises btwn EV/ICE balance. If I didn't have longterm home charging (it really must be L2 req electrician dedic wiring - $2-4k USD), I'd not go BEV only. Car is just transportion, I'll not plan my life around charging. As is, we own a BEV & a phev, I use the phev for short trips, errands. I don't remember when I last put ⛽ in. Long range BEV: Carry 1000# extra 🔋 wt most days. Phev: carry 1000# extra ICE most days.

  • @aussiedeplorable8670
    @aussiedeplorable8670 Год назад +3

    You should for a fair comparison be comparing them to the plug in Rav 4 Prime, which is unavailable in Australia.

    • @Mububban23
      @Mububban23 Год назад +4

      Bit irrelevant then isn't it, for an Aussie channel?

    • @Karl-Benny
      @Karl-Benny Год назад +1

      the why if you can`t get it

  • @Xunxunism
    @Xunxunism 10 месяцев назад +1

    I doubt the fuel number of RAV 4.

  • @user-fn9el6xf1g
    @user-fn9el6xf1g 3 месяца назад +1

    Why didn’t you take the RAV4 plug in for comparison?

    • @kdegraa
      @kdegraa 18 часов назад

      They are not sold in Australia.

  • @mihaiachim244
    @mihaiachim244 Год назад +6

    I don't understand why all the time people take into account the fuel efficiency of a PHEV with battery fully charged or worse, compare a PHEV with a HEV on a relatively short distance. Ok, in a real life the PHEV will drink 1.4 l/100km on an average day but not because it's stellar technology compare with others but because it's bigger battery. And you pay this electricity also, especially in a public quick charger (in my country we pay 3 times for 1 kwh compared with a domestic socket). Let make a 500 miles test with all of 3 and see what happens.
    Or if we compare a PHEV with an EV, that means PHEV is crap because it still consumes 1.4l when EV consumes nothing?

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад

      exactly, real world distances show the mitsushitty is the worst for fuel economy.

  • @williaml6083
    @williaml6083 Год назад +4

    My 2022 RAV4 hybrid won’t perform better than 6.2L/100km. Mostly suburban Sydney driving. No matter how much I go soft on accelerator and braking. I’ve reset and tested again but won’t go down. Not sure how you got 3.7L!

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад +1

      see thats the thing, they dont get anywhere near that close on any of them, I cant understand how back in 2012 I had a 2012 hyundai i30 crdi turbo diesel 1.6l hatch that would easily do 5l/100kms WAYYY better than the prius of the time and still today. I dont understand how they were able to build such a frugal everyday vehicle yet all these years later we still cant get close to that.

    • @brokenSnake
      @brokenSnake 11 месяцев назад

      Same with me

    • @johns2262
      @johns2262 10 месяцев назад

      I know someone with a CH-R (smaller) and even they can't get 3.7, so it seems a little...odd.

    • @Elemblue2
      @Elemblue2 7 месяцев назад

      Its 3.7L per your first 100km with a full battery.
      The Outlander gets 6.5L/100km with no charge.

  • @ffotograffydd
    @ffotograffydd 5 месяцев назад +1

    Comparing a plug-in hybrid with a standard hybrid isn’t really a fair comparison. The plug-in RAV4 drives mostly in EV at lower speeds too.

  • @Uzaair
    @Uzaair 3 месяца назад

    You can configure the Xtrail as a 7 seater

  • @sahanasahana4146
    @sahanasahana4146 Год назад +3

    outlander is best of best

  • @t8polestarcyan22
    @t8polestarcyan22 10 месяцев назад

    I'll take the plug in hybrid which can go proper ev mode but off course for up to 80km ish but that's still fine. However what's not fine is the "electric mode only" top speed is only 70kmh compared Volvo's S/V/XC 60/90 T8s which can do 100kmh but for a very short time. Nevertheless, plugins hybrids and pure evs are ideal in cities, short drives, congestions and anywhere that require frequent stops.

    • @gmilne13
      @gmilne13 10 месяцев назад

      Not true - owned the Gen 4 Outlander PHEV for about a year now, and you can drive at 100kmph in pure EV. Do it regularly. When visiting parents, we have 30 km trip (one way - 60 return) of which over half is motorway. Can get there and back in EV on 2/3 of a battery.

    • @t8polestarcyan22
      @t8polestarcyan22 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@gmilne13 Glad to know. So it's not what this vid has said. Thank you.

  • @paulbonifacio901
    @paulbonifacio901 10 месяцев назад +1

    E-power ❤

  • @HDvids101
    @HDvids101 Год назад +4

    3.7 per 100 for the RAV ? After 60K I've got 6.3 at all types of driving mostly urban.

    • @mihaiachim244
      @mihaiachim244 Год назад

      Of course, you are much closer to reality. And probably if you had the Nissan all this time, you were around 7.5. They didn't include the highway in their test where the hybrids are a lot penalised.

    • @dragoncraft5781
      @dragoncraft5781 10 месяцев назад

      After 40k we are around 5.8L. Not sure how you could get 3.7? Don't get me wrong I'm pretty happy getting around 800km range regardless of city or highway driving but 3.7 would be amazing.

    • @johns2262
      @johns2262 10 месяцев назад

      @@mihaiachim244 I have the Nissan X Trail e-4ORCE and it manages around 5.9/6.0 on the highway. Where it seems to suffer is on rougher surfaces or dirt tracks. I did 20km on a rather unpleasant series of roads at the weekend and it was at 10 for it, even though I wasn't going over 50. City driving is also fine with 4.5 or so IF (and it is a big IF) you use the E Pedal.

  • @kalengkong
    @kalengkong Год назад +3

    I have test drive RAV4 Hybrid and Outlander PHEV , Ride quality definitely Outlander wins. also Who can wait 3 years for RAV4 Hybrid anyway? its an Unobtainable .

    • @AustinPetDetective
      @AustinPetDetective 9 месяцев назад

      I was told 15 months to 2 years for the rav4 depending on model and colour.

    • @BluePandaa284
      @BluePandaa284 3 месяца назад

      Ride quality ???? I have watched maybe 10 different comparison video. All of them say rav4 has better ride quality. You must be genious or anyway.

  • @Mdpjs
    @Mdpjs Год назад +7

    The only thing not mentioned is the outlander being so reliant on a battery system, what life will batteries last compared to the Toyota. Because at least with the Toyota we know based on previous models you will get about 20 years even though Toyota does not give a guarantee. Will the Nissan and the outlander still run like a normal car if their batteries pack it in?

    • @davidroberts5199
      @davidroberts5199 Год назад +4

      The battery isn't likely to stop working entirely. No more likely than the small battery in the Toyota system. EV only range will drop over time though for sure. But with a reduced battery capacity it'll still deliver the same performance, just running the engine more frequently. The 'new' Outlander PHEV system is fundamentally the same as the old ones so there's more than ten years of real world data on reliability. They don't seem to fail but loss of EV range was quite bad for some cars. This model uses a better chemistry and should do better. The good thing is the engine is a very basic type and there's no gearbox/transmission or diffs to worry about.

    • @airestocky
      @airestocky Год назад

      the battery will last over the car itself…

    • @davidyang577
      @davidyang577 Год назад +5

      The new Gen outlander uses the latest lithium cell technology with water cooled system and its made by Panasonic. Its Different to the previous gen, so the battery degrade SOH will be much better than what Toyota are using as they are still using the littium battery pack from the previous generation.

    • @adamcoe
      @adamcoe 11 месяцев назад +4

      For what it's worth, Mitsu offers a 10 year warranty on the batteries so there's that.

    • @Munyabrwn
      @Munyabrwn 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@adamcoesame as toyota

  • @JJ-mc8lu
    @JJ-mc8lu Год назад

    The RAV 4 is about to replaced with a new model in the next year or so. Not sure I want to be driving the old model by time its delivered.

  • @miningbooms
    @miningbooms Год назад +1

    Why Rav4 Prime wasn't included in this test? It has a long range battery.

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 11 месяцев назад +1

      not available in australia mate, or if it is its rare as hens teeth.

  • @thomascaseyhart4103
    @thomascaseyhart4103 6 месяцев назад

    How much did the Mitsubishi cost to charge the out lander cost of running is the true over all cost petrol and electricity and did that equal the same amount of money spent as the rav and plus the extra cost of the perchance I've the rav that's slot of fuel for the rav and the Toyota is the king of hybrids so will definitely out last the other two and have better resale

  • @BoopSnoot
    @BoopSnoot 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Outlander's efficiency is misleading. Its actually horrifically inefficient IF you don't charge the battery. Obviously, if you're running 99% of the time on battery power, your fuel efficiency will be amazing, but that isn't going to happen on a highway trip from Houston, TX to Daytona FL.

  • @kelvpoon
    @kelvpoon Год назад +2

    Who else went straight to verdicts?

  • @Malc664
    @Malc664 Год назад +2

    I almost walked in front of a RAV4 Hybrid and couldn't hear the thing so I like that the Mits & Nissan make a sound.

  • @TYPICALTRYHARD_
    @TYPICALTRYHARD_ Год назад +3

    Isn't the underlying platform of both the xtrail/rouge the same as the outlander also an important factor that wasn't mentioned in the video is that the previous year of the outlander was a little longer than the new one making the 3rd row a little more usable if you're looking for the phev version and the new outlander the 3rd row is actually unusable unless you're hauling exclusively toddlers in the the car

    • @keyner111
      @keyner111 Год назад

      The new Outlander is bigger than the old one in every way, the Outlander is bigger than the Rogue/X-Trail, the previous Outlander PHEV didn't come with a 3rd row seats.

    • @TYPICALTRYHARD_
      @TYPICALTRYHARD_ Год назад

      @@keyner111 you're right but the previous gen non phev did have 3rd rows and they we're more usable than the current gen

    • @keyner111
      @keyner111 Год назад

      @@TYPICALTRYHARD_ no, the newer one has more room.

    • @warcrabcyber9908
      @warcrabcyber9908 Год назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/mXdbrRqedhY/видео.html
      Certainly does not look like only toddlers to me. Also the outlander and x trail share the same structure frame , however the interior, engine, electric motors are totally different.
      Infact the tucson and the sportage are more identical in parts than the outlander and the x trail. Which no reviewer highlights ever. Kia and Hyundai has been sharing platforms for years now and no one mentions it.

    • @TYPICALTRYHARD_
      @TYPICALTRYHARD_ Год назад

      @@warcrabcyber9908 everyone mentions kia and Hyundai share platforms and everyone knows they are practically the same company under different logos

  • @kbling2946
    @kbling2946 Год назад

    Jesus!! STILL no 2023 RAV4 Cruiser review in Australia.
    My god, I own one, come to my house, test drive it 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @leoayaladezobeltansy8708
    @leoayaladezobeltansy8708 8 месяцев назад

    I don’t have any of those, so I just choose the mitsu rav4 x-trail.

  • @friscosbt.2408
    @friscosbt.2408 Год назад

    look, untill somebody makes measuring on 400 km I do not trust these results.make pl. part 02.

  • @goranjurkovic6796
    @goranjurkovic6796 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why would you compare outlander phev vs rav4 hev when you also have much better rav4 phev?

    • @goranjurkovic6796
      @goranjurkovic6796 9 месяцев назад +1

      Did you know that rav4 has phev version that is actually killer of outlanders phev in every way.

    • @351tgv
      @351tgv 9 месяцев назад

      because Toyota Australia don't sell the Rav4 Prime for the AU market.

    • @allensoofian7632
      @allensoofian7632 8 месяцев назад

      Rav4 Prime is a smaller car, medium drive quality, poor 4-drive system that everyone talks about vs outlander, bland interior. Look up Outlander phev All-wheel drive test vs Prime. Outlander easily won.

    • @goranjurkovic6796
      @goranjurkovic6796 8 месяцев назад

      @@allensoofian7632 in what category is outlander better than rav4 prime xse tech package?
      It is much slower to 62mph or quarter mile.
      It has worse mpg than rav4.
      It has worse obsolete ice.
      It has worse obsolete hybrid system.
      It has less ev range.
      It has slower on board charger.
      It has less tech inside.
      It has unusable 3rd row.
      It has less reliable reputation.
      So in what thing or category does outlander beat rav4 prime easily?

  • @percyhomodza120
    @percyhomodza120 Год назад +2

    Mitsubishi is my take from what you preached

  • @anthonypagano6384
    @anthonypagano6384 Год назад

    Where is the ford escape phev and the Subaru Forester hybrid and mg hs ev and haval H6 hybrid and Peugeot 3008 phev and Mazda MX30

    • @mihaiachim244
      @mihaiachim244 Год назад

      They are in their garage. What do you expect, someone will put together all the hybrids on this planet to make a drive test? Is there a title saying "The best hybrid on earth" or something? It's about those 3 cars and that's all. Stop complaining.

    • @nephilimdj
      @nephilimdj Год назад

      Mx30 is a hatchback, it's Mazda's Suzuki ignis, and ignis use to be 18k before COVID

  • @user-bi3ys3ho3d
    @user-bi3ys3ho3d 7 месяцев назад

    Mitsubishi outlander because Mitsubishi Technology is the oldest and Advance in automotive industries and heavy industries also become the world champion ever by Guinness world record

  • @marshallmarthes
    @marshallmarthes 5 месяцев назад

    3.7/100 fuel economy is amazing considering you never have to charge it coz youre not paying for a higher electricity bill

  • @BrucePotter
    @BrucePotter 3 месяца назад +1

    Mitsi PHEV only used 1.4l petrol but how much electric energy did you use? Electricity is not free energy and quite expense at fast charge stations, so it needs to be factored in. Also the if you drive the PHEV on a long trip you do use all the elec energy and all the petrol energy for highway speeds. How much of a pain will that be having to fill the tank and also recharge on long haul trips :/

  • @davidyang577
    @davidyang577 Год назад

    A FWD Rav4.. Well how do you compare that with fulltime AWD? 😅

    • @goranjurkovic6796
      @goranjurkovic6796 9 месяцев назад

      How do you compare hev to phev?
      Rav4 has full time awd phev with much better performance and economy.
      How can a guy call himself a car guy if he doesn't know that 😂😂

  • @davidroberts5199
    @davidroberts5199 Год назад +11

    Not sure I'd agree with the Rav being more 'sporty' than the Outlander PHEV. Neither are really sporty but the Outlander is a fair bit faster to 100kph and waaaaaay faster to accelerate at lower speeds. And having driven both I think the Outlander turns in better, has less understeer and actually a bit of oversteer in power/tarmac mode. Plus instant torque. All in all much more fun to drive IMO.

    • @artempavlov4599
      @artempavlov4599 Год назад +8

      Regarding sporty thing - outlander have active yaw control. I was surprised how playful it becomes, when you step on a pedal in a turn. Harder you step, better it turns

    • @davidyang577
      @davidyang577 Год назад +4

      How can the rav4 be sportier if the outlander would literally destroy the Rav4 on tarmac track, gravel and snow?
      This guy seems to have a grudge with Mitsi like he's not use to Mitsi been a better performance overall vehicle for the first time .

    • @goranjurkovic6796
      @goranjurkovic6796 9 месяцев назад

      Rav4 phev has 5 seconds to 60mph and 14 secondsquartermile. Yeah faster lol.

    • @paulblackwood3960
      @paulblackwood3960 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@goranjurkovic6796 Thats a Rav4 prime (5.8sec) and you cant get them here anyway. But its using battery and direct drive at the same time to do it and its a bit of a useless party trick . Outlander is all electric and uses battery and engine generator. Outlander does 0-60 6.5 seconds and is waaaaay smoother and much more drivable after that

    • @austin.2716
      @austin.2716 8 месяцев назад +1

      Outlander from what I’ve heard is more refined than the Rav4 across the board (road noise, interior materials etc). However, the reason the Rav4 sells is because Toyota and everything that comes with that (most the time). Rav4 feels basically the same as a petrol vehicle to drive and ‘sportiness’ is acceptable for me. I feel the reviews praise the handling a bit too much on the Rav4 but that’s just me. Owner of a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid.

  • @zydrunasnormaliai6997
    @zydrunasnormaliai6997 7 месяцев назад

    Rav 4 Hybrid is awinner and best car in this video

  • @cycloopnl
    @cycloopnl 5 месяцев назад

    You should have taken the RAV4 Hybrid AWDi!