This is probably a much better solution than the Land Rover one! Making a new spare wheel centre cap that duplicates as the quick release would be the icing on the cake for this wonderful solution. Brilliant idea!!
Nice design, with regards to the quick release I would recommend adding a standoff pipe to move the quick release to be the same depth as the wheel sits.
Might be a less pretty solution, but you could jimmy up an center cap adapter that's actually a female connection point to the ARB, that way you don't have to fish it through (put the coupler on the center cap, feed in like 5-6 inches of additional hose so when you have to take the wheel off you can have some slack to the compressor). I think that'd be a pretty slick connection point on the actual wheel.
Hi Simon, Happy New Year, firstly theres no fitting link at 1.45, and just a thought maybe find a stand off extension for the air connector to bring it out level with the wheel mount, to make it easier to reach.
I guess the voltage would be to high to just plug it into the domestic socket below the fuse box for those of as that have them. This could possibly remove the need for a switch? Brilliant idea, well done!
Epic idea Never understood why you would buy the LR compressor over the twin arb Probably would have the 1gallon tank as well But obviously not on the defender I’d have it on my disco 3
So a few months later how is it running? Much better than inside the boot. I have had a ARB single under the hood of our jeep for 13+ years now and it has been flawless. I am a little skeptical of it sitting outside in the TX heat all year around but love the out of the way, wasted space solution. Please post a follow up soon.
I may have missed it somhow, but did you also show how the electrical supply connection is made? Maybe in another video? .... I'm assuming you poke the cables through the grommit / remove variious covers and tap into the rear compartment 'fuse box', but over here in Australia we dont have good access to technical info (i.e. schematics etc) from JLR... and so while I'm mechanically and electrically savvy, at the moment I am not too keen on performing 'exploratory surgery' on my new toy 🙂. Thanks in advance for any advice you may be able to provide.
@@PELOSC Not so far. And I'm not too keen on trying to pull apart my new toy to find out for myself... at least not yet 🙂 Any advice would be very welcome....
This location is very dusty, and the filter will get clogged up in no time. I would suggest to add the remote air intake kit and locate the intake inside the car
I travel as often as possible to Central Kalahari and Okavango in Botswana. The dust is a next level powder in the dry season. In Southern Africa I would hesitate to mount anything there 😳 Maybe UK/Europe would be fine?
Great video - Maybe add some sort of ‘soft’ washer (nylon?) between the stainless steel bracket and the car? I’d be a bit worried about bolting the bracket directly to the vehicle body w/o protecting the paint etc, it could create a potential corrosion / rust issue downstream if this isn’t done.
Will this be the straw that breaks the rear door’s back? I had an early classic Discovery three door and its door hinges would droop if I so much as looked at it less than kindly. Excellent location and kit if it works. Would like to see it wired up of course and maybe you could sell the bracket with a wiring kit included as standard
In real life you’re exposing the compressor to dust and mud which is not good at all. In addition, the access point is beyond horrible. When we travel, we sometimes air down and up several times a day! I would be super discouraged to use this system, not practical at all! You should check out the solution we created for our dual ARB compressor.
Hi Simon how about you extend the air release nozzle so it is almost flush with the outer wheel holder making it easy to release as when there is air in the hose it is very very tight to release
Yes just ordered these - the thread is 1/4" NPT ! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122643142005?hash=item1c8e19d575:g:bsMAAOSwo~Bgt0Th&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4Nyqo1aNBuh1B%2BwKvFRcXvY8P5yPZeYFScQPQSk3h3taw9VwDv%2FuN8JlIQDjuG4iD%2BMw8fKFXxY8qmCHlk%2BNOgTTNfihycvPzJBhZG6o6bbm%2By111X4YO8t7NAMv5sRRzIy9fRjEM7o2eoG6xBeJ%2B6BuohpOgX6biJ95DfTmA%2FZcYE2vLLsPBa1yRZs3G2aIdfxO7pWtcqfpybfcRJSA%2BGonAvOolmPhG48cqKlK9K0mWHs3CQl9vF9UVkrXEIlPxk4nKFMRau7KDWxTmGglPROa0f2SfqR2%2B5Zt71xeh%2B1l%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_Dyi7-wYQ
Great idea, just two things first one are the screws that connect the compressor to the plate are they going into nylock nuts as the vibration may make them come loose. Second one where the outlet is on the compressor is it not possible to make up and extension piece to bring the quick release connector nearly flush with the spare wheel. I.e. a piece of stainless steel pipe about 6inch or so with the same thread to connect to the compressor then fix the quick release to the other end. Just a thought..
Hi Gordon - good points - some threadlock on the nuts would be a good idea - I dont think they are nylocs. I like the idea of the extension piece - this would make it just that bit easier to use. Now all i have to do is work out the wiring !
I will check the thread tomorrow but this seems ideal www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FThread-Extension-Female-Chrome-Brass%2Fdp%2FB00LGJJX52&psig=AOvVaw32FzoCzcyTpzyjSSkuebpY&ust=1673041450091000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA8QjRxqFwoTCLCbsJyzsfwCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN
Brilliant ! No more to say. _ Actually there is ... I think it's possible to mount these compressors into the engine bay of a Disco 3 and 4 - so, how about doing a mounting plate and details of mounting this into a Discovery 3/4....
I have seen many a video where people have installed these units (and the single compressor version), into engine bays. I believe that this will lead to premature failure due to the heat. Stories of motor bearing failure etc are being told. These units run hot when operating and have a fan installed to try and keep the heat at bay. But if the fan is moving hot air, or very little air due to it's installation location, then it's going to fail.
Briljant! I will order one! Any option to squeeze the ARB air tank in there as well? :) The ARB kit is much better than the crazy expensive Land Rover compressor.
Great idea. Would love to see the wiring video when able. 2023 110 owner here in the US. Would you recommend the ARB or the LR integrated compressor? Also will the smaller ARB fit on the same mounting bracket? Thanks for all you folks are doing.
Hi 👋 very nice and professionally upgrade but I think need small cover top of compressor to protect from rain 🌧️ and small tool to release air hose. You are professional but this is my idea. ❤❤👌👌👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧
Greetings mr Virdi - the ARB is supposed to be splash proof and it needs air for cooling. The spare wheel will cover the compressor from most rain. I like the idea of a release tool !
Splash proof won’t really cut it then living behind the wheel in U.K. weather. I personally think it’s a stupid place to mount it and would be a pain to use.
Did I miss a video or option announcement on those two super clean cubby / doors above each tail light? Is that a JLR option, or is Simon sneaking a new product into the world? 👀
@@L663 Need to ensure that you select a fuse that is live only when the car is running. If you run a compressor off just the battery it will drain very quickly. The other issue to point out is that hose connector gets very hot after use, even with the rubber covering. Just another issue to make people aware of.
Are you able to release the video without the speaker removal section? Lots of other vids out there showing the speaker removal for the unscrupulous characters
Excellent idea! Do you think it's possible to install a couple of right-angle air hose brackets to the outlet so a hose could come out of the bottom/side of the wheel bracket? That way a hose could be stored behind the wheel (wound-up), and doesn't require removal of the spare wheel cover. Could it also be possible to power the thing with a 12V lighter plug?
Yes the wind up hose outside would work - the thread is 1/4" NPT but i would rather keep the hose in the car - keep it clean ? I agree with S2S below - the ARB compressor takes some current - I will do a video on the wiring.
@@L663 That's a fair point about the dirt... Maybe a cover or hose bag or something would be necessary. And yes to be fair the ARB looks pretty heavy duty so no surprise really! I have a P400e myself so I'm very intrigued by the problems that arise from it and the solutions involved. A contoured boot mat would be ideal...
@@L663 sorry to bare the bad news guys, hopefully this is an exception. But fuses and bearings seem to go quite fast and regular. Even if connected to a tank. Which is real shame for a couple reasons. The price, the looks and of course arb is normally quality
@@grahameroberts8109 sadly not mate, I watch a lot of the Australian boys it’s pretty much only reason I knew. I was so close to getting one myself, from my own research the singles seem more reliable
@@Discoveryjamie I am pretty sure the installation has a lot to do with it. These units generate a lot of heat and there's even a cooling fan that runs continually when power is applied. A lot of guys here is Oz fit them in engine bays and under the false floor of their Land Cruisers and Patrols. The engine bay is continual heat and hot air and under the floor there will be limited airflow. I think this is a primary cause of premature failure. I have installed the dual compressor unit in my Y62 Patrol - it operates the load-assist airbags on the rear suspension and provides an outlet for air-up of the tyres. It is installed inside the vehicle in a large cavity in the boot where they install the Sub-woofer in higher spec models. So far no problems.
This is probably a much better solution than the Land Rover one! Making a new spare wheel centre cap that duplicates as the quick release would be the icing on the cake for this wonderful solution. Brilliant idea!!
It really needs an extension that places the quick release further out, so that is protrudes from the center cap position.
should be quite easy to achieve, with some 1/4 BSP threaded pipe cut to the relivent length, would extend the quick release through the wheel centre.
Utter genius. Also very impressed how LR predicted power would be required in that area, so no drilling holes 👌👍😊
Nice design, with regards to the quick release I would recommend adding a standoff pipe to move the quick release to be the same depth as the wheel sits.
Yes I have now purchased some of these. For reference the thread is 1/2" NPT
Looks like you need an extension for that quick connect. Very smart install.
Might be a less pretty solution, but you could jimmy up an center cap adapter that's actually a female connection point to the ARB, that way you don't have to fish it through (put the coupler on the center cap, feed in like 5-6 inches of additional hose so when you have to take the wheel off you can have some slack to the compressor). I think that'd be a pretty slick connection point on the actual wheel.
I thought the same thing
A very neat job Simon…lots of work and measuring to get it to fit so well. I hope it sells well for you! 🙂🙂🙂
Far better than the Land Rover option. Perhaps a spacer between the hose connector and the compressor, bringing the connector further out?
You need a 3d printed sleeve to put over airline to remove it. Just a tube with slit up it so it will slot over the line then push in to release it
nice video Simon, maybe supply with the kit a rubber spacer to fill the wheel carrier space.
Hi Simon, Happy New Year, firstly theres no fitting link at 1.45, and just a thought maybe find a stand off extension for the air connector to bring it out level with the wheel mount, to make it easier to reach.
I guess the voltage would be to high to just plug it into the domestic socket below the fuse box for those of as that have them. This could possibly remove the need for a switch? Brilliant idea, well done!
IIRC a cig lighter / power socket is max 10 amps , those twin pump ARB's are about 50 amps
Epic idea
Never understood why you would buy the LR compressor over the twin arb
Probably would have the 1gallon tank as well
But obviously not on the defender I’d have it on my disco 3
So a few months later how is it running? Much better than inside the boot. I have had a ARB single under the hood of our jeep for 13+ years now and it has been flawless. I am a little skeptical of it sitting outside in the TX heat all year around but love the out of the way, wasted space solution. Please post a follow up soon.
Another good video 🚗🚙🚘⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
It can’t be beyond possibility to get a fixed air line extension so the quick release sits level or protrudes slightly of the spare wheel.
Yes this would make a nice final touch !
I may have missed it somhow, but did you also show how the electrical supply connection is made? Maybe in another video? .... I'm assuming you poke the cables through the grommit / remove variious covers and tap into the rear compartment 'fuse box', but over here in Australia we dont have good access to technical info (i.e. schematics etc) from JLR... and so while I'm mechanically and electrically savvy, at the moment I am not too keen on performing 'exploratory surgery' on my new toy 🙂.
Thanks in advance for any advice you may be able to provide.
Hi, did you get any help with the wirering?
@@PELOSC Not so far. And I'm not too keen on trying to pull apart my new toy to find out for myself... at least not yet 🙂
Any advice would be very welcome....
This location is very dusty, and the filter will get clogged up in no time. I would suggest to add the remote air intake kit and locate the intake inside the car
I travel as often as possible to Central Kalahari and Okavango in Botswana. The dust is a next level powder in the dry season. In Southern Africa I would hesitate to mount anything there 😳 Maybe UK/Europe would be fine?
Great video - Maybe add some sort of ‘soft’ washer (nylon?) between the stainless steel bracket and the car? I’d be a bit worried about bolting the bracket directly to the vehicle body w/o protecting the paint etc, it could create a potential corrosion / rust issue downstream if this isn’t done.
Will this be the straw that breaks the rear door’s back? I had an early classic Discovery three door and its door hinges would droop if I so much as looked at it less than kindly.
Excellent location and kit if it works. Would like to see it wired up of course and maybe you could sell the bracket with a wiring kit included as standard
You raise a valid point but this seems a well engineered rear door - credit to Land Rover !
In real life you’re exposing the compressor to dust and mud which is not good at all. In addition, the access point is beyond horrible. When we travel, we sometimes air down and up several times a day! I would be super discouraged to use this system, not practical at all!
You should check out the solution we created for our dual ARB compressor.
Hi Simon how about you extend the air release nozzle so it is almost flush with the outer wheel holder making it easy to release as when there is air in the hose it is very very tight to release
Yes just ordered these - the thread is 1/4" NPT !
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122643142005?hash=item1c8e19d575:g:bsMAAOSwo~Bgt0Th&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4Nyqo1aNBuh1B%2BwKvFRcXvY8P5yPZeYFScQPQSk3h3taw9VwDv%2FuN8JlIQDjuG4iD%2BMw8fKFXxY8qmCHlk%2BNOgTTNfihycvPzJBhZG6o6bbm%2By111X4YO8t7NAMv5sRRzIy9fRjEM7o2eoG6xBeJ%2B6BuohpOgX6biJ95DfTmA%2FZcYE2vLLsPBa1yRZs3G2aIdfxO7pWtcqfpybfcRJSA%2BGonAvOolmPhG48cqKlK9K0mWHs3CQl9vF9UVkrXEIlPxk4nKFMRau7KDWxTmGglPROa0f2SfqR2%2B5Zt71xeh%2B1l%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_Dyi7-wYQ
Great idea, just two things first one are the screws that connect the compressor to the plate are they going into nylock nuts as the vibration may make them come loose. Second one where the outlet is on the compressor is it not possible to make up and extension piece to bring the quick release connector nearly flush with the spare wheel. I.e. a piece of stainless steel pipe about 6inch or so with the same thread to connect to the compressor then fix the quick release to the other end. Just a thought..
Hi Gordon - good points - some threadlock on the nuts would be a good idea - I dont think they are nylocs.
I like the idea of the extension piece - this would make it just that bit easier to use.
Now all i have to do is work out the wiring !
I will check the thread tomorrow but this seems ideal
www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FThread-Extension-Female-Chrome-Brass%2Fdp%2FB00LGJJX52&psig=AOvVaw32FzoCzcyTpzyjSSkuebpY&ust=1673041450091000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA8QjRxqFwoTCLCbsJyzsfwCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN
In one word: Brilliant!
Thanks.... not 100% my idea.... Maarten needs some credit for the idea !
Thank you for working with this brilliant idea and making it work 👏👏👏👏
Brilliant ! No more to say. _ Actually there is ... I think it's possible to mount these compressors into the engine bay of a Disco 3 and 4 - so, how about doing a mounting plate and details of mounting this into a Discovery 3/4....
I have seen many a video where people have installed these units (and the single compressor version), into engine bays. I believe that this will lead to premature failure due to the heat. Stories of motor bearing failure etc are being told. These units run hot when operating and have a fan installed to try and keep the heat at bay. But if the fan is moving hot air, or very little air due to it's installation location, then it's going to fail.
a cylinder 3d printed that goes in the center of the wheel that you push to release the hose is a simple solution to engange the quick disconnect
Great solution Simon. I wonder what the longevity of the ARB compressor will be like over time when exposed to lots of salt and rain?
It is sheltered to a degree - but a good point you raise.
Simon please do a spare tire delete/ Jerry cans holder. Please please please
Can you provide a plug information squematics please
Briljant! I will order one! Any option to squeeze the ARB air tank in there as well? :) The ARB kit is much better than the crazy expensive Land Rover compressor.
Not sure there is room for the tank - mixed reports on the ARB compressor - looks good to me
Yeah not too sure about that it seems to have a pretty good reputation down here ....
Great idea. Would love to see the wiring video when able. 2023 110 owner here in the US. Would you recommend the ARB or the LR integrated compressor? Also will the smaller ARB fit on the same mounting bracket? Thanks for all you folks are doing.
Brilliant. I like that a lot 👍 Something else to add. 😃
will the mounting plate also work with the smaller single cylinder ARB compressor? Also is there a wiring video?
Hi 👋 very nice and professionally upgrade but I think need small cover top of compressor to protect from rain 🌧️ and small tool to release air hose. You are professional but this is my idea.
❤❤👌👌👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧
Greetings mr Virdi - the ARB is supposed to be splash proof and it needs air for cooling. The spare wheel will cover the compressor from most rain. I like the idea of a release tool !
Splash proof won’t really cut it then living behind the wheel in U.K. weather. I personally think it’s a stupid place to mount it and would be a pain to use.
Did I miss a video or option announcement on those two super clean cubby / doors above each tail light? Is that a JLR option, or is Simon sneaking a new product into the world? 👀
Found it, one month ago! Plumb. I need to keep up!
I did delete it for a while - struggling with PLUMB - they are not supporting me !
Boom... But, was out playing on the tractor! Arenas don't drag themselves..
Now I still need to fix my French Tractor.... but i did buy a water dowser to tow behind my Range Rover Fire truck today!
@@L663 Awesome 👌 My Massey Ferguson is the little tractor that could and can lol So abused over the years but still keeps chugging along!
Amazing!!!!🎉
Is there any electrical points to power off the cars power supply or a new cable run needed from the battery?
Working on this - but the rear fusebox should provide a feed of sufficient power.
@@L663 Need to ensure that you select a fuse that is live only when the car is running. If you run a compressor off just the battery it will drain very quickly. The other issue to point out is that hose connector gets very hot after use, even with the rubber covering. Just another issue to make people aware of.
Excellent idea!
I cannot take the credit for the idea - but we did design the bracket !
What happened to the AirTag vid? Was looking forward to watching that!
In the video I showed how to disable the buzzer and some one was concerned perverts may use this "heck" to track women !
Are you able to release the video without the speaker removal section? Lots of other vids out there showing the speaker removal for the unscrupulous characters
@@adventuredronebiker Yes let me edit that bit out
Excellent idea! Do you think it's possible to install a couple of right-angle air hose brackets to the outlet so a hose could come out of the bottom/side of the wheel bracket? That way a hose could be stored behind the wheel (wound-up), and doesn't require removal of the spare wheel cover.
Could it also be possible to power the thing with a 12V lighter plug?
To answer your second question, the answer is no. According to ARB, it draws 56A under full load. Most 12V plugs are only in the 10-20A range.
Yes the wind up hose outside would work - the thread is 1/4" NPT but i would rather keep the hose in the car - keep it clean ? I agree with S2S below - the ARB compressor takes some current - I will do a video on the wiring.
@@L663 That's a fair point about the dirt... Maybe a cover or hose bag or something would be necessary. And yes to be fair the ARB looks pretty heavy duty so no surprise really!
I have a P400e myself so I'm very intrigued by the problems that arise from it and the solutions involved. A contoured boot mat would be ideal...
@@L663 Hi! I just ordered the kit+compressor and I'm interested in how to do the wiring on P400e. Do you have vidoe for that?
Thank you!
@@SpaceScope0714 We have not launched this yet - we are working it !
Can the compressor put up with road spray ect , The rear of flat backed vehicles always seems to get into a mess quite easy . Kindest Regards Simon
Hi Mike - good point - I think although dirty this area should escape most of the weather and road salt.
@@L663 Love the 90 , Still struggling being Roverless .Kindest Regards
Hi Simon, Can you give us a link for a wiring setup, pls? Coz I can't find it anywhere...I'd love to buy the whole kit once back available..
Hi - I am working on this ...
ruclips.net/video/I0Fwsjv-s1g/видео.html
thx
Hi Simon, Any luck on the wiring setup, yet?@@L663
Awesome
Can you get these compressors wet?
Clearly they cant be used underwater but I see no reason why they cannot be exposed to water..
A class
this is brilliant 🤩
Not totally our idea ... but its a neat solution !
Genius
Can the new big screen be fitted in defenders with the smaller screens?
Yes there are some people doing this !
@@L663 may you do a video on it please?
A little google will tell you these arb twins aren’t that reliable sadly 😢
Oh no !
@@L663 sorry to bare the bad news guys, hopefully this is an exception. But fuses and bearings seem to go quite fast and regular. Even if connected to a tank. Which is real shame for a couple reasons. The price, the looks and of course arb is normally quality
@@Discoveryjamie
But what model? This is 2022 model. Surely ARB would have done R&R on faults. 👍🏻🙏🦘
@@grahameroberts8109 sadly not mate, I watch a lot of the Australian boys it’s pretty much only reason I knew. I was so close to getting one myself, from my own research the singles seem more reliable
@@Discoveryjamie I am pretty sure the installation has a lot to do with it. These units generate a lot of heat and there's even a cooling fan that runs continually when power is applied. A lot of guys here is Oz fit them in engine bays and under the false floor of their Land Cruisers and Patrols. The engine bay is continual heat and hot air and under the floor there will be limited airflow. I think this is a primary cause of premature failure. I have installed the dual compressor unit in my Y62 Patrol - it operates the load-assist airbags on the rear suspension and provides an outlet for air-up of the tyres. It is installed inside the vehicle in a large cavity in the boot where they install the Sub-woofer in higher spec models. So far no problems.
Have no idea what this is or does
Доброго здоров'я привіт з Одеси Україна.
Can i order from your website if im in the USA?
We ship products to USA every day! You guys are great customers!
No link at around 2:00?
Nice bit of kit. 👍🏻🙏🦘
Thanks - added now... are you feeling the Ausie love from me in this video ?