Escort cosworth is basically coach built by Karmann on Sierra running gear. The RS2000 had a transverse engine, electronically coupled Haldex style 4wd... hence the smaller tunnel in the RS2000 - gearbox is mounted with the engine, not inline in a mechanical drivetrains. it’s because one is basically a silhouette homologation model for WRC and the other is a warmed-up commuter car.
The problem for me with the RS2000 was Ford sticking the body kit on lesser models and devaluing the car. If I had to choose a RS2000 I would get the one with the power bulge on bonnet which had a great advert on TV, Rocky tune if I remember correctly. Haven't seen one on road in years.
The early rs2000 Mk5 was a different car with unique wheels bonnet and trim etc however still shared the bumpers with xr3i but none the less more special car.
@TeamZSsx Spot on, it really wound me up at the time I had my RS2000 when I spotted that the run out Escort van models shared the same, supposedly special, honeycomb grille!
its weird that you dont see many mk5 escorts of any description out on road, see loads of mk6 but try finding a mk5 for sale or out on the roads, is near impossible
Beautiful cars and great, detailed video. I had an RS2000 4x4 just like yours, I loved it. For me the weak points were, as you mentioned it was underpowered (or maybe under torqued rather) and the brakes were weak. However, the handling and steering (and engine sound) were superb. You could power it into any corner with confidence, if it did lose grip you just got a little bit of satisfying 4 wheel drift. I had an Escort 1.8 Si at the same time, the cars looked almost identical, and despite the Si feeling just as firm as the RS its handling was nowhere near, probably thanks partly to the 4x4's unique multilink rear suspension. The reason the transmission tunnel is so much smaller than the Cosworth's is because the Cosworth's houses the gearbox and transfer box at the front - on the RS2000 they're under the bonnet, seen as the engine is sideways. All that's in the RS2000's tunnel is the propshaft. It annoys me when BMW kill the RWD layout of the 1-series because they say that the packaging isn't good enough with the engine lengthways. When you look at the Escort Cosworth, except for the width of the front footwells, I'd say it has just as much interior length as the regular FWD Escort. If Ford could do that 30 years ago why can't BMW now?
Much prefer the Cosworth, RS2000 wouldn't turn many heads, yes OK for shopping and probably no worries about using it daily. The Cosworth is on the other hand probably on some thieves shopping list unfortunately. If it were mine I wouldn't leave it out of my sight. Cosworth looks the business, I love them.
Omg the two gearbox's are totally different the cosworth uses a mt75 and the rs2000 a mtx75. The cosworth is inline 4cylinder the rs2000 transverse. The gear selectors are totally different just they look similar. The rs2000 was not based on any MK4 escort it is simply a bolt on 4x4 system which is quite weak compared to the cosworth. The floor mats also are not standard they are optional extras if purchased originally. The whole suspension everything is different between the two cars apart from using the same principal type. The clocks in the cosworth are also unique no other model goes to 170mph. The steering wheel and body kit on the rs2000 Mk6 is taken from the GTi. It was also the mirror switch what was the same not the electric window. I like your videos Jamie this was not your best one. You should do a video of the history of the cosworths and why they were produced and how it all happened. Did you know the Sierra cosworth is in the record books it's the first production car to have over 100bhp per litre capacity.!! I can help you with the technical back ground if you wanted to do a tech video on the history. Do you no why the small turbo cars were produced and the did not stay with the large turbo set up?
@@ianbrisland1982 it was originally what was called the Ferguson type. Was used in the 2.8 and 2.9 4x4 sierra modified bell housing shape and uprated transfer box bearing and chain. It has no diff lock system and only uses LSD on each axle. So the mistake can be made if driving onto a beach and you sure won't get of it lol
@@ra52 Excellent cheers, I was thinking it couldnt be the Haldex system as that was used in the RS2000 etc - cars that were originally front wheel drive but had a power off to the back but still prodominatly front wheel drive, any idea of the power split for the cosworth? I'd love to buy one! I've got a 5 GTT I've had for 19 years and would love to expand the collection
@@ianbrisland1982 the Sierra and escort used a 70/30 split unless it's the rouse sport that was modified to 50/50. If your thinking of buying one I could be your man thinking of selling one of my collection. Your right the system used in the rs2000 is taken from the Mondeo. It's nowhere near as strong as the cosworth. The cosworth is good for 330bhp if in good order and you don't slam the gears. The weekday link is 3rd gear then the gear sets separate slightly with the power and it chews the teeth. The linkage is floppy but a short shift part and Polly bushes in the mounts on the cradle make it nice for cheap money around £80.
@R A agree with most of that, but the RS2000 didn't take anything from the GTi - it was the other way around. The GTi was pretty much a run out model that didn't come about until 1997 when the RS2000 had already stopped production. They were probably using up RS2000 trim parts.
Great video & every informative as always Jamie, Your channel is fast becoming one of my favorites.👍 😀 Keep on producing the quality content & enjoying the old skool Fords.👌✌️ P.S - Are you planning on doing a video about the Porsche?
The MK5 looks far, far better, more unique, agree that the MK6 was more refined. A/C and opening rear windows were optional on the RS2000, they were available in the UK The Cossie had an MT75, the RS2000 had the MTX75 The I4 in the RS2000 is transformed by a simple modification… remove the EGR, the difference is night and day
@@grimjimbo2059 A little harsh, it was a nice car, but interestingly the chassis plate on mine said "XR3+"! So the intention might not have been to call it an RS initially.
Looking back the RS2000 was pretty average but I still got excited over the odd one in FastFord, was all about them side-skirts so had to be the MK6 version.
Great presented nostalgic trip both great cars i was surprised at the low bhp on the escort rs i always thought they were around 200 bhp always looked for a race in my RX7 great days.
Both impeccable condition cars and classics ... do you remember they also did a non aero pack without the big wing ? I prefer the whail tail tbh. And btw love the 18s on the cossie ... beautiful colour too aubergine ... nice to see female owners appreciating the cossie and rs cars ... your knowledge of fords is 1st class Jamie... great cars in their own respective right . 👍😊
It's amazing how similar the Cosworth Calibra Turbo engine looks to the Escort Cossie engine. The Coscast C20LET is almost identical, the rocker cover was slightly different, the spark's were in the middle on the C20LET, oops they are on the Escort it's almost the same effing engine just one has a Ford badge the other a Vauxhall. I had a Calibra Turbo 4x4 for over 10 years coz I couldn't afford the Escort Cossie at the time. Real shame it was never graced with the Cosworth badge though as there'd still be loads of them left on the road like the Escorts, but then a 24 year old me wouldn't have been able to afford the Calibra either if it did have the Cosworth badge on the back, swing's and roundabouts I suppose. I can't warrant the Escort Cossie price now though, so traded in my five pot Focus ST n got a BMW M235i instead which is even quicker so who cares! One day!
It's NOT about quicker ,in rallying your car would do nothing ... absolutely NOTHING compared to a escort Cosworth and you don't compare a 28 year old hot hatch with a modern BMW .only a Shithouse on Piston heads would say something that utterly stupid
@@bigjohnfury5662 I compared the Calibra Turbo 4x4 with the Escort Cossie, not the BMW. The only comparison I did recently was with what my finances were spent on. I've always wanted an Escort Cossie, I bought a Calibra Turbo 4x4 (Cosworth) instead 17 years ago coz I couldn't afford an Escort Cossie. I was just randomly explaining why I still don't have one even though technically I can afford one, but not for a daily drive. So I chose a new car with a warranty over a 28 year old car with no warranty, it was my way of making me feel better that I still don't own my dream car. Who with an Escort Cossie has ever used it for Rallying? Yes the car was developed as a rally car and sold to the public due to the rally class rules of the 90's, but no owner ever used them for rallying. They'd be taken to track days, where the BMW would probably beat the Cosworth and they'd also be taken to Santa Pod for 1/4 mile drag race where the BMW would beat it by at least a second or two. No Escort Cosworth owner ever used their car for Rallying!
Nice video, very knowledgeable, also me likes your enthusiasm for the RS badge. My dream car, money no object, is an Escort RS Cosworth. So the fact you have an Escort RS 2000 to is just making me tingle from head to toe. Nice job on presentation, of these gorgeous Machines. You have a new fan & sub here ✌👌
The 4x4 variant of the RS2000 is getting seriously hard to fond these days.....even more so then a Ecos........Won't be long before you can't leave either of them on the car park without worrying.
Sorry, that's completely wrong. The Cosworth uses the Sierra floorpan, all other Escorts and the Mondeo are their own and very different to one another.
Thank you so much for sharing your 2 beautiful cars!! Ford in the U.K truly made nice Ford cars while here in the in the U.S are ugly 😂 i just learned about these cars never heard of them until the Focus RS came to the U.S in 2016 now i know more about the history of the RS and again Escorts in the U.S are so ugly lol Greatings from North Carolina 👋👋
@@markbrook7601 I have owned dozens of Fords including RSs back in the day. I have also owned Vauxhalls, Nova SR and Astra GSi red top. The Fords have character and the Vauxhalls are dull. Always were and still are. IMO the only memorable Vauxhalls were the Lotus Carlton and the Minaro. But credit goes to Lotus and GM for those. Just my opinion.
@@kinada7372 Lotus Carlton what a machine, you had a good array of Motors. Today's Ford and Vauxhall have lost that Passion, now luv me Merc yet needs a Kenwood LOL
@@markbrook7601 Yep, I still love Fords but the only ones I like are out of my price range now. Its BMW for me these days. I've had a dozeen or so. Would give a kidney for that Cosworth though.
The 2wd Mk5 RS2000 was the better looking and better drive over the 4 x 4 mk6 and the mk5 2wd was quicker than the mk6.
God, I wish the US got these. Mk5 has much more cohesive, well-resolved styling. Love those RS2000 rims, though.
Escort cosworth is basically coach built by Karmann on Sierra running gear. The RS2000 had a transverse engine, electronically coupled Haldex style 4wd... hence the smaller tunnel in the RS2000 - gearbox is mounted with the engine, not inline in a mechanical drivetrains. it’s because one is basically a silhouette homologation model for WRC and the other is a warmed-up commuter car.
The Cosworth leaves a wake of shock and awe wherever it goes. ❤
MT75 in the Sierra / escort cosworth.
MTX75 in the TRANSVERSE (Front wheel drive layout) Engined RS2000 shared also with the mk1 mondeo 4x4 👍
I always wanted a cosworth, but being 18 could never afford one used. So ended up with a mk6 escort GTi. And the moved on to a Impreza
The problem for me with the RS2000 was Ford sticking the body kit on lesser models and devaluing the car. If I had to choose a RS2000 I would get the one with the power bulge on bonnet which had a great advert on TV, Rocky tune if I remember correctly. Haven't seen one on road in years.
Yep my Mum had two 1.6 Escort's with the same kit.
The early rs2000 Mk5 was a different car with unique wheels bonnet and trim etc however still shared the bumpers with xr3i but none the less more special car.
@TeamZSsx Spot on, it really wound me up at the time I had my RS2000 when I spotted that the run out Escort van models shared the same, supposedly special, honeycomb grille!
That cosworth is absolutely beautiful 👍
its weird that you dont see many mk5 escorts of any description out on road, see loads of mk6 but try finding a mk5 for sale or out on the roads, is near impossible
Beautiful cars and great, detailed video. I had an RS2000 4x4 just like yours, I loved it. For me the weak points were, as you mentioned it was underpowered (or maybe under torqued rather) and the brakes were weak. However, the handling and steering (and engine sound) were superb. You could power it into any corner with confidence, if it did lose grip you just got a little bit of satisfying 4 wheel drift. I had an Escort 1.8 Si at the same time, the cars looked almost identical, and despite the Si feeling just as firm as the RS its handling was nowhere near, probably thanks partly to the 4x4's unique multilink rear suspension.
The reason the transmission tunnel is so much smaller than the Cosworth's is because the Cosworth's houses the gearbox and transfer box at the front - on the RS2000 they're under the bonnet, seen as the engine is sideways. All that's in the RS2000's tunnel is the propshaft.
It annoys me when BMW kill the RWD layout of the 1-series because they say that the packaging isn't good enough with the engine lengthways. When you look at the Escort Cosworth, except for the width of the front footwells, I'd say it has just as much interior length as the regular FWD Escort. If Ford could do that 30 years ago why can't BMW now?
Much prefer the Cosworth, RS2000 wouldn't turn many heads, yes OK for shopping and probably no worries about using it daily. The Cosworth is on the other hand probably on some thieves shopping list unfortunately. If it were mine I wouldn't leave it out of my sight. Cosworth looks the business, I love them.
I agree with Stevie. From the outside its still a beautiful looking car. If it had an interior upgrade it would work today
Great video, not seen anyone else go into such indepth details regarding the difference between these 2 models 👍
Takes me back to my XR3I days and RS turbo - miss theses cars !
Omg the two gearbox's are totally different the cosworth uses a mt75 and the rs2000 a mtx75. The cosworth is inline 4cylinder the rs2000 transverse. The gear selectors are totally different just they look similar. The rs2000 was not based on any MK4 escort it is simply a bolt on 4x4 system which is quite weak compared to the cosworth.
The floor mats also are not standard they are optional extras if purchased originally.
The whole suspension everything is different between the two cars apart from using the same principal type. The clocks in the cosworth are also unique no other model goes to 170mph. The steering wheel and body kit on the rs2000 Mk6 is taken from the GTi. It was also the mirror switch what was the same not the electric window.
I like your videos Jamie this was not your best one.
You should do a video of the history of the cosworths and why they were produced and how it all happened. Did you know the Sierra cosworth is in the record books it's the first production car to have over 100bhp per litre capacity.!!
I can help you with the technical back ground if you wanted to do a tech video on the history. Do you no why the small turbo cars were produced and the did not stay with the large turbo set up?
What set up 4x4 system does the Cosworth use?
@@ianbrisland1982 it was originally what was called the Ferguson type. Was used in the 2.8 and 2.9 4x4 sierra modified bell housing shape and uprated transfer box bearing and chain. It has no diff lock system and only uses LSD on each axle. So the mistake can be made if driving onto a beach and you sure won't get of it lol
@@ra52 Excellent cheers, I was thinking it couldnt be the Haldex system as that was used in the RS2000 etc - cars that were originally front wheel drive but had a power off to the back but still prodominatly front wheel drive, any idea of the power split for the cosworth? I'd love to buy one! I've got a 5 GTT I've had for 19 years and would love to expand the collection
@@ianbrisland1982 the Sierra and escort used a 70/30 split unless it's the rouse sport that was modified to 50/50. If your thinking of buying one I could be your man thinking of selling one of my collection.
Your right the system used in the rs2000 is taken from the Mondeo. It's nowhere near as strong as the cosworth. The cosworth is good for 330bhp if in good order and you don't slam the gears. The weekday link is 3rd gear then the gear sets separate slightly with the power and it chews the teeth. The linkage is floppy but a short shift part and Polly bushes in the mounts on the cradle make it nice for cheap money around £80.
@R A agree with most of that, but the RS2000 didn't take anything from the GTi - it was the other way around. The GTi was pretty much a run out model that didn't come about until 1997 when the RS2000 had already stopped production. They were probably using up RS2000 trim parts.
Great video & every informative as always Jamie, Your channel is fast becoming one of my favorites.👍 😀
Keep on producing the quality content & enjoying the old skool Fords.👌✌️
P.S - Are you planning on doing a video about the Porsche?
The MK5 looks far, far better, more unique, agree that the MK6 was more refined.
A/C and opening rear windows were optional on the RS2000, they were available in the UK
The Cossie had an MT75, the RS2000 had the MTX75
The I4 in the RS2000 is transformed by a simple modification… remove the EGR, the difference is night and day
I literally bought an Rs2000 in petrol blue because of them seats 😂 very underpowered car and prone to rotting 😬
@@grimjimbo2059 A little harsh, it was a nice car, but interestingly the chassis plate on mine said "XR3+"! So the intention might not have been to call it an RS initially.
Looking back the RS2000 was pretty average but I still got excited over the odd one in FastFord, was all about them side-skirts so had to be the MK6 version.
Great presented nostalgic trip both great cars i was surprised at the low bhp on the escort rs i always thought they were around 200 bhp always looked for a race in my RX7 great days.
And the ford oval was not recessed in to the boot like the rs and oather models. Great tour of the two rs"s
Great video Jamie, you certainly know your stuff about the later RS escorts 👍
That's an impressive pair of cars there, bringing back memories, they look mint, Good on ya!
Like a girl with a love of cars. Mmmmmmm. Nice collection and look stunning
Both impeccable condition cars and classics ... do you remember they also did a non aero pack without the big wing ? I prefer the whail tail tbh. And btw love the 18s on the cossie ... beautiful colour too aubergine ... nice to see female owners appreciating the cossie and rs cars ... your knowledge of fords is 1st class Jamie... great cars in their own respective right . 👍😊
It's amazing how similar the Cosworth Calibra Turbo engine looks to the Escort Cossie engine. The Coscast C20LET is almost identical, the rocker cover was slightly different, the spark's were in the middle on the C20LET, oops they are on the Escort it's almost the same effing engine just one has a Ford badge the other a Vauxhall.
I had a Calibra Turbo 4x4 for over 10 years coz I couldn't afford the Escort Cossie at the time.
Real shame it was never graced with the Cosworth badge though as there'd still be loads of them left on the road like the Escorts, but then a 24 year old me wouldn't have been able to afford the Calibra either if it did have the Cosworth badge on the back, swing's and roundabouts I suppose.
I can't warrant the Escort Cossie price now though, so traded in my five pot Focus ST n got a BMW M235i instead which is even quicker so who cares!
One day!
It's NOT about quicker ,in rallying your car would do nothing ... absolutely NOTHING compared to a escort Cosworth and you don't compare a 28 year old hot hatch with a modern BMW .only a Shithouse on Piston heads would say something that utterly stupid
That’s because they both based on Pinto engines.
@@bigjohnfury5662
I compared the Calibra Turbo 4x4 with the Escort Cossie, not the BMW.
The only comparison I did recently was with what my finances were spent on. I've always wanted an Escort Cossie, I bought a Calibra Turbo 4x4 (Cosworth) instead 17 years ago coz I couldn't afford an Escort Cossie.
I was just randomly explaining why I still don't have one even though technically I can afford one, but not for a daily drive. So I chose a new car with a warranty over a 28 year old car with no warranty, it was my way of making me feel better that I still don't own my dream car.
Who with an Escort Cossie has ever used it for Rallying?
Yes the car was developed as a rally car and sold to the public due to the rally class rules of the 90's, but no owner ever used them for rallying.
They'd be taken to track days, where the BMW would probably beat the Cosworth and they'd also be taken to Santa Pod for 1/4 mile drag race where the BMW would beat it by at least a second or two.
No Escort Cosworth owner ever used their car for Rallying!
@@whynotagain3639 you need mental help not RUclips Answers
@@bigjohnfury5662 maybe, I was drunk with the initial random mind dump tho.
Interesting comparison, i really enjoyed it.
Nice video, very knowledgeable, also me likes your enthusiasm for the RS badge. My dream car, money no object, is an Escort RS Cosworth. So the fact you have an Escort RS 2000 to is just making me tingle from head to toe. Nice job on presentation, of these gorgeous Machines. You have a new fan & sub here ✌👌
Excellent video RS Jamie.Iv'e owned a few RS fords.My favorite was my Mk3 RS1600i,wish I still had it.
Why you can not go for shopping with your Cosworth?Jealous will damage it?Or will be for sure stolen?Or both?
Great video !Thank you
The Escort Cosworth was made by Karmann (as in Karmann Ghia) of Osnabrück, Germany.
Nice toys , FYI the cos uses a MT75 4x4 box and a sierra floorpan the 2000 has a MTX75 and a more std escort shell as the engine is transverse
I love these Escorts...💯🆒️👌🚗💨😀
The 4x4 variant of the RS2000 is getting seriously hard to fond these days.....even more so then a Ecos........Won't be long before you can't leave either of them on the car park without worrying.
I will be coming to the UK for my first time very soon.. I hope to see a few of these while I am there. 😎
Dont get your hopes up.
They are rare there is a one in County Durham and a rs500 where I live the fella as them both
These were everywhere in the 90s, but none left now, the Focus arrived in 98 and the escort quickly disappeared.
See a few sierra cosworths now and again but the escorts are all locked away in garages
You definitely should cam up the rs2000, and you really need to put in a ATB differential. Will then be something really special.
Another enjoyable video Jamie. Interesting comparisons despite the cosworth clearly being the most desirable of the two.
That Cosworth is so clean 😍
Is it true that the cossie is slightly longer than the mk5 as I heard those pop out rear quarters are longer and you can't fit them in anything else?
Jamie where u gone ? Miss ur up loads 👌
The body of the two cars is the same?
Both escorts use the same Sierra 4x4 floor pan that was also used on the mk1 mondeo
Sorry, that's completely wrong. The Cosworth uses the Sierra floorpan, all other Escorts and the Mondeo are their own and very different to one another.
Love your cossie jamie
Very clean and OEM
Correct me if I'm wrong Jamie but wasn't there a Orion test mule running 4x4 running gear, I'm sure it was knocking around Basildon once upon a time.
omg, ford orions. i forgot about the orions
I'm from v
Basildon and wouldve loved to of seen that !
Thank you so much for sharing your 2 beautiful cars!! Ford in the U.K truly made nice Ford cars while here in the in the U.S are ugly 😂 i just learned about these cars never heard of them until the Focus RS came to the U.S in 2016 now i know more about the history of the RS and again Escorts in the U.S are so ugly lol Greatings from North Carolina 👋👋
@Better Than You thats crazy you clearly didnt read it right the ESCORTS IN THE U.S IS TERRIBLE while in the U.K It looks alot better.
Would love to see them both on the track.
Transverse not left to right... @11:18
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Great comparison, both lovely cars, at the end you say you would never sell but now I have heard your selling your cosworth, is this true?
この違い とても 分かりやすいでした。ありがとうございます👍️✨
So you selling the cossie or not?
Your cars are very clean rs cos looks sick 👍🏽
Shame its not the mk5a rs2000 that you compared the cossie to.
Muy Lindos Autos
mk5 looks loads better, i was never a ford guy, i was always mk2 golf owner but my god do i love old fords now,
Need to see it drive or hear the engine rour
Ironic how the pomies love this American designed cars but have a dislike in Americans... double standards 🚮
The RS2000 is a Mk7, I have a Mk6 from 93, same rear end, different nose, interior like the Mk5.
It's mk6, the one you have is known as a mk5b in the UK
Both lovely
Under 7000 miles 😍
Rs 2000 is begging for a st170 blacktop turbo lump.
A design for life and then it’s value will also
Plummet.
I operate on smiles per mile it's never gonna be a mk1 mexico or cosworth status.
Muito.boa
Mine sticks out and pertrudes aswell
Freaking unreal!!!
Great vid.
awesome 👌🏻👏🏻
All you need now is a Cavalier SRI and the GSI, then bat off the blokes.
Wash your mouth out! Blue Oval or die
@@kinada7372 Ford! Real car fenatic should try both, Ford at the time is like anyone seen my Gears, yet Jap box in the Vauxhall select and gone.
@@markbrook7601 I have owned dozens of Fords including RSs back in the day. I have also owned Vauxhalls, Nova SR and Astra GSi red top. The Fords have character and the Vauxhalls are dull. Always were and still are. IMO the only memorable Vauxhalls were the Lotus Carlton and the Minaro. But credit goes to Lotus and GM for those. Just my opinion.
@@kinada7372 Lotus Carlton what a machine, you had a good array of Motors. Today's Ford and Vauxhall have lost that Passion, now luv me Merc yet needs a Kenwood LOL
@@markbrook7601 Yep, I still love Fords but the only ones I like are out of my price range now. Its BMW for me these days. I've had a dozeen or so. Would give a kidney for that Cosworth though.
Nice cars.
I know you've been that good god bless
Sadly I’d take the Rs2000 you wouldn’t feel guilty about daily driving it and much less chance of it being stolen compared to The Cosworth 😂
absolute ear rape intro TTTTTHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNGGGGGS
Top vid
I miss my series 1 escort and my mk4 rs fiesta..... boring BMW driver now lol
227 bhp for the Cosworth.
I prefer your Bentley
Cosworth all day long
throw away that garbage turbo and injectors! They aren't mean to be in coswoth but in some sunday supermarket car😂😂
Black cladding lol
I like the RS2000 more.
Cant stand modern german cars - totally soulless, love older fords
Do one your life must be sad