Pretty good list! The only thing I would change is the hydra...would toss it on the last spot just because of how slow it is. Before it reaches the enemy it's either already over or the hydra gets pelted by ranged.
Angels are the best because of their overall power, the fact that you can get them in Griffin Conservatory and that they are good with any army ( you'll almost always see a spot reserved to angels in 1v1 random map match regardless of the starting town ) but the strongest are devils ^^
tbh, if we're talking about unupgraded Behemoths are obviously the best of them all. The whole point about being upgraded is getting yourself a quick start. I tend to go Stronghold and dab in my opponents face when I come knocking on their door 2nd week with my Behemoths, Wolf Riders and Thunderbirds. Gotta love Stronghold. The Offensive skill from Craghack is sooo good.
YOu kinda forgot to put fire breath friendly fire as a con since once i had 26 gold dragons and got 300 of my centaurs decimated by a single kamikaze dragon fly
My next video would probably be best spells or artifacts, tbh I don't wan't to do the unupgraded versions videos like the upgraded ones, the upgradeds ones are much more interesting imo..
From the view of 20y playing heroes i would rank like this (from player vs player view, including more aspects like using spells, siege town, open battlefield etc...) * and from hota view , where is boosted luck decrease and nerfed fire birds to 50% fire magic resist 9. giant 8. behemoth 7.hydra 6.bone dragon 5. fire bird 4. devil 3. angel 2. green dragon 1. red dragon
i`m quite amused of these videos of comparing units! the games is called Heroes3 of might and MAGIC! not heroes of might! is useless to compare units at basic when a single spell can make an average unit a great one!
I dont get why u put behemoth on that position. In right hands it can be amazing beast doing insane damage. Cause of low speed and low attack? The attack doesnt really matter when u have such an armour ignoring
@@fxalexei "Only" 40% ? Duude, because of that, it basically has the highest attack of the unupgraded level 7 units. By far. Level 7 units have between 16 (hydra) and 20 (angel) attack. Level 7 units have between 15 (bone dragon) and 21 (devil) defense. 40% reduction of 15 means -6, while on the devils it would be -8. So a behemoth, when it attacks (17 attack), it's basically like attacking versus 9 def (bone dragon) up to 13 def (devil). So he has between 4 and 8 attack bonus. That's the highest of all level 7 creatures, seconded by angels with -1 to +5 attack bonus. Quite far less. As if that's not enough, it also scales massively with hero stats. Suppose two heroes with 10 attack and 10 defense battle. Now the behemoth has 27 attack, but when attacking other level 7 unupgraded creatures of the other hero, it will ignore between 10 def (bone dragon with 15 def + 10 def bonus = 25 defense. 40% of that is 10 defense) and 12 def (angels/devils with +10 will have 30/31 def and 40% of that is 12). So it's going to be 27 attack vs 15 to 19 def for a total of 8 to 12 attack bonus. That's 40% to 60% extra damage. TL:DR; The behemoth has the highest damage of all level 7 creatures.
Devil is not there to beat angel but be fast hunter of weak and pathetic. Which angels are but devils give them chance to attack first from pure gentlemen mannerisms. In real devils are very fast are good in cherry picking certain units and have high survivabilty. Imo they complement their town very well. Just thought expert offense + bloodlust + expert slayer. They will make ketchup out of all 7 lvl units. If some of them die just use sacrifice…
Indeed. One on one an angel's going to win, but Firebirds are infinitely more cost effective (as is the Conflux town as a whole, which is the biggest reason it's banned in tournaments).
Are you kidding me ? One angel totally does not beat 2 firebirds. With no morale, the firebirds kill the angel even if they do minimum damage. With maximum damage (well, 36 on average, before attack/defense bonuses/penalties, 34 after) they kill the angel without even one of them dying! The angel CAN win if it has morale in the first turn. And if the firebirds deal the minimum damage, the angel can also win if it has morale, but in the second turn, surving with just 4 HP. Which will never happen, unless the firebird has curse. Except that in non-HotA it CANNOT have curse. So basically, no morale in the first round = dead angel. And even with morale in the first round, if the firebirds do equal or more than that 36/34 damage mentioned above, they can still win if the angel doesn't ALSO have morale in the second round. Two phoenixes (unsurprisingly) mop the floor with the angel. With no morale, even on minimum damage, the phoenixes kill the angel without one of the phoenixes dying. With morale, the gets to kill one phoenix, but still dies in the second round, without even getting to see if it can get a second morale. Not to mention that having the higher speed in order to be the first to cast is ultra valuable, more than the attack/defense/hp/damage stats in most situations. So, no, in SoD the angel is not #1, but firebirds/phoenixes are #1 (bullshit OP tier)
Hydra is so low?? She takes no recoil and can attack 4,5 or even more units at once if you can position it well giving it the highest damage output of all level 7 and you give them spot below Behemoths that have no extra properties then just being a big infantry unit? Ridiculous. Because of what? Speed? Pfff.... The stat that can be adusted with a level 1 spell and all number of items and skills? Ridiculous.
I understand, Hydras can definitely go above behemoths and green dragons, but dragons have better all around stats and behemoths are very cheap and you can have access to them very quickly.
Hydra deserves to be low, as much as I love fortress. Unless you have haste or teleport, you'll never get to attack more units, because everybody will run away. Or kill the hydras by the time they get somewhere. A behemoth has much higher damage and is much, much cheaper. Of course it ranks higher.
Pretty good list! The only thing I would change is the hydra...would toss it on the last spot just because of how slow it is. Before it reaches the enemy it's either already over or the hydra gets pelted by ranged.
But giants are literally like tier 6 creatures, nobody recruit them until they become titans. I don’t need to explain about bone dragons.
Angels are the best because of their overall power, the fact that you can get them in Griffin Conservatory and that they are good with any army ( you'll almost always see a spot reserved to angels in 1v1 random map match regardless of the starting town ) but the strongest are devils ^^
tbh, if we're talking about unupgraded Behemoths are obviously the best of them all. The whole point about being upgraded is getting yourself a quick start. I tend to go Stronghold and dab in my opponents face when I come knocking on their door 2nd week with my Behemoths, Wolf Riders and Thunderbirds. Gotta love Stronghold. The Offensive skill from Craghack is sooo good.
You are stupid
Why is he stupid?
YOu kinda forgot to put fire breath friendly fire as a con since once i had 26 gold dragons and got 300 of my centaurs decimated by a single kamikaze dragon fly
oh cool, you're actually doing the non upgraded ones :)
Yeah but I won't do them as consistently as the upgraded ones, the next video I want to do is best spells or artifacts.
fine with me, do it at the pace that's good for you
Nice video!
Thanks !
Are you going to do all of the unupgraded creatures or try something else next like artifacts that are nice to have ?
My next video would probably be best spells or artifacts, tbh I don't wan't to do the unupgraded versions videos like the upgraded ones, the upgradeds ones are much more interesting imo..
Gigants are very bad, but Titans are the best!!! Never use Giants, waiting for uppgrage them
True, probably one of the best creature upgrades in the game.
Actually giants are cheap, and you can build them on first week so theyare not that bad
I think Giants have the highest maximum damage among faction units, whch is at 60....not sure since I haven't played a while
You must be new to the game, eh?
From the view of 20y playing heroes i would rank like this (from player vs player view, including more aspects like using spells, siege town, open battlefield etc...) * and from hota view , where is boosted luck decrease and nerfed fire birds to 50% fire magic resist
9. giant
8. behemoth
7.hydra
6.bone dragon
5. fire bird
4. devil
3. angel
2. green dragon
1. red dragon
i`m quite amused of these videos of comparing units! the games is called Heroes3 of might and MAGIC! not heroes of might! is useless to compare units at basic when a single spell can make an average unit a great one!
I dont get why u put behemoth on that position. In right hands it can be amazing beast doing insane damage. Cause of low speed and low attack? The attack doesnt really matter when u have such an armour ignoring
yeah but normal behemoth only reduce defense by 40% so it's not that great
Just basic spell like slow can eliminate behemoth from a battle and make him killed by archers
@@fxalexei "Only" 40% ? Duude, because of that, it basically has the highest attack of the unupgraded level 7 units. By far.
Level 7 units have between 16 (hydra) and 20 (angel) attack.
Level 7 units have between 15 (bone dragon) and 21 (devil) defense.
40% reduction of 15 means -6, while on the devils it would be -8.
So a behemoth, when it attacks (17 attack), it's basically like attacking versus 9 def (bone dragon) up to 13 def (devil). So he has between 4 and 8 attack bonus. That's the highest of all level 7 creatures, seconded by angels with -1 to +5 attack bonus. Quite far less.
As if that's not enough, it also scales massively with hero stats. Suppose two heroes with 10 attack and 10 defense battle. Now the behemoth has 27 attack, but when attacking other level 7 unupgraded creatures of the other hero, it will ignore between 10 def (bone dragon with 15 def + 10 def bonus = 25 defense. 40% of that is 10 defense) and 12 def (angels/devils with +10 will have 30/31 def and 40% of that is 12). So it's going to be 27 attack vs 15 to 19 def for a total of 8 to 12 attack bonus. That's 40% to 60% extra damage.
TL:DR; The behemoth has the highest damage of all level 7 creatures.
I consider devils only slightly better than bone dragons.
Devils have no retaliation, can beat many other T7 and are generally useful in fights.
Devils' stats are close to Angels, then add the No Retaliation.
Nr 1 are the angels
Agree with all
Can anyone here try duking out an Archangel vs an Archdevil, using heroes with the same atk/def stats..
And similar skills as well?
Archangel wins
Inferno overall are pretty trash, if you compare to its heroes 5 version.
Devil is not there to beat angel but be fast hunter of weak and pathetic. Which angels are but devils give them chance to attack first from pure gentlemen mannerisms. In real devils are very fast are good in cherry picking certain units and have high survivabilty. Imo they complement their town very well. Just thought expert offense + bloodlust + expert slayer. They will make ketchup out of all 7 lvl units. If some of them die just use sacrifice…
Behemots are higher than most lvl 7
How do you get the fire bird faction?
Install the shadow of death or complete version of the game
@@Robina012 Or even better, install HotA expansion. That’s the current standard of Heroes 3!
red dragon immuned 1-4 Level speels
are you kidding me? one Angel beats 2 phoenix easy and beats them if one resurects also. Angel slaughters 2 firebirds. Angel by far is number one.
portal of glory is way too expensive compared to pyre, firebird has faster speed so you can always open the game with a spell cast.
Indeed. One on one an angel's going to win, but Firebirds are infinitely more cost effective (as is the Conflux town as a whole, which is the biggest reason it's banned in tournaments).
Are you kidding me ? One angel totally does not beat 2 firebirds. With no morale, the firebirds kill the angel even if they do minimum damage. With maximum damage (well, 36 on average, before attack/defense bonuses/penalties, 34 after) they kill the angel without even one of them dying!
The angel CAN win if it has morale in the first turn. And if the firebirds deal the minimum damage, the angel can also win if it has morale, but in the second turn, surving with just 4 HP. Which will never happen, unless the firebird has curse. Except that in non-HotA it CANNOT have curse. So basically, no morale in the first round = dead angel. And even with morale in the first round, if the firebirds do equal or more than that 36/34 damage mentioned above, they can still win if the angel doesn't ALSO have morale in the second round.
Two phoenixes (unsurprisingly) mop the floor with the angel. With no morale, even on minimum damage, the phoenixes kill the angel without one of the phoenixes dying. With morale, the gets to kill one phoenix, but still dies in the second round, without even getting to see if it can get a second morale.
Not to mention that having the higher speed in order to be the first to cast is ultra valuable, more than the attack/defense/hp/damage stats in most situations.
So, no, in SoD the angel is not #1, but firebirds/phoenixes are #1 (bullshit OP tier)
@@Winnetou17 make more tests brother!
"Teleporting".... The biggest facepalm I've ever did to myself.
Hydra is so low?? She takes no recoil and can attack 4,5 or even more units at once if you can position it well giving it the highest damage output of all level 7 and you give them spot below Behemoths that have no extra properties then just being a big infantry unit? Ridiculous. Because of what? Speed? Pfff.... The stat that can be adusted with a level 1 spell and all number of items and skills? Ridiculous.
I understand, Hydras can definitely go above behemoths and green dragons, but dragons have better all around stats and behemoths are very cheap and you can have access to them very quickly.
Behemoths (even the unupgraded ones) ignore a portion of the enemy unit's armor while attacking
Hydra deserves to be low, as much as I love fortress. Unless you have haste or teleport, you'll never get to attack more units, because everybody will run away. Or kill the hydras by the time they get somewhere.
A behemoth has much higher damage and is much, much cheaper. Of course it ranks higher.
nonsense
Every 1 knows Archangel are the best
Firebird first?! Good fucking joke XD
Somebody hasn't played through Armageddon s blade...
Yeah it's a joke. People still think numbers > quality in H3. I guess they never played against non-AI players.
Double growth is seriously OP..
@@richiabosuli3193 I got nerfed in HotA. Now you can get 3 firebirds / pheonixes per week. You also need to buy a special building for that.
@@RabianskiTyeah i saw that building and was joking about it as peri peri chicken shop 😂
red dragon immune to level 1-4 spells
No, that would be gold dragon