I live a long -long way from Grosse Pointe today, but the memories of the early 1960's you have awakened in me are wonderful. And you had me absolutely absorbed or "ENGROSSED" in all the NEW historical facts I've learned. (Excuse my pun... I couldn't resist). NEW Facts like "Michael Cadieux" of 1830. No doubt why there is a street of the same name that runs across "Mack" Ave. And right past the Michigan Bell Telephone Company (Central -Office) that I knew so well that generates the prefixes: 881, 882, 884, 885, and a few others that I don't specifically remember now. My beautiful Aunt Nita's was 884. (I just KNOW everybody wanted to know that). HA! Excuse me again... I couldn't resist. AND... Oh yes... Some of the earliest Grosse Pointe residents were "The Trombleys" Who lived 2 doors down from us in 1974. I didn't know they were celebrities. Also, The "Renault's"... Well, we all know who THEY ARE! But the one thing I really didn't get, was... The name"GROSSE POINTE " derived it's name from some horrible massacre in 1712... "The FOX INDIAN MASSACRE" was it? Having it out with another tribe called "MASS-A-KINS" (did you say)? Well, WHY isn't it called "FOX POINTE"?? The (SIR NAME) "GROSSE" is definitely British! For as many times as the Britts were over here trying to grab on to Detroit, I thought there has to be a connecting story there. But I guess not! Well, it's been very interesting. I'd give you an equally interesting story about the Hell -Place I live in, but I wouldn't want your hair to drop -out for the language I'd have to use. Love you all... My long lost Michigan family, (I wish I'd never left). Jeff 17:51
Very interesting!!! My Grandfather had a tool/die business in Highland Park, Michigan from the 1920's on, making parts for Ford--- My G mother sold it in the 70's, but the business is still operating there----
5:00 The background music you hear is a french canadian tune named ''Un Canadien Errant'' (loosely translated ''A Wandering Canadian''. The lyrics talk about a french canadian banished from his homestead wandering far away in foreign countries saying that he remembers his friends (and misses them).
My 7x’s Great Grandfather Julien Freton dit Nanteis was one of the very fist settlers of Grosse Pointe an and I believe him or a son fought in the Civil War as well..I’m very proud to be his 7x’s great granddaughter.
Very interesting as I was born in Bon Secours Hospital I Grosse Pointe in 1957 and resided as an infant in Grosse Pointe at my father's Aunt Frances Locher's mansion where she wrote classical piano music as well as recorded it n my parents n I lived there in 1957, thru 1959 at the manse where I was attended to by a Mammy. I of course only heard the stories I do not remember much at all, except the grand staircase coming from both sides of the mansion meeting in the middle with the huge pillars n sweeping staircase that branched left n right. I still see it in my dreams, n I am now 65 yrs old!!! Also, my father's mother, my grandmother Locher who remarried my Grandfather Locher back in the 1930's, was the society column editor if the Detroit Free Press newspaper during the 1920's. Wow!!; Grosse Pointe was always special in my family!;
Well I MADE A MISTAKE! So... I came back to beg YOUR pardon, and correct it. 2 days ago I made the brash -blatent exclamation that "The SURNAME "GROSSE " is definitely British". Well it's NOT... It's "GERMAN"! Sure surprised me. I made the presumption that "Maurice Grosse"- a renouned (paranormal investigator... (now deceased) And, a very prim and proper (British acting gentleman) lead me to make an unresearched, cavalier statement that the name "GROSSE" was "BRITISH". Oops... I stand corrected. I hope you'll forgive me. Jeff 17:47
Nice story, but it was whitewashed somewhat---- Narrator Tom Weaver stated at the beginning that Grosse Pointe was uninhabited-- Wrong----- Native tribes had lived there for thousands of years---- Also, he touched on the treaty of 1783--- That was the treaty of Paris-- One of the worst treaties that the sub chiefs ever signed-- They didn't fully realize they were signing over millions of acres of ancestral land to the British--- Tecumseh was enraged with this development and tried to negate the treaty, leading up to the battles of Lake Erie, and Lake St Clair--- Tecumseh was killed at the Battle of the Thames R in 1813-----
The Ethnic Pointe system for potential home buyers emphasized foreignness, rather than income or race. None of the questions seemed to eliminate Black or Latina peoples, but then were they ever in the running back then to buy a home in the pointes? No. And if per chance one was, they'd be steered away to homes in the city proper by GP realtors. I'm sure a realtor could be fired for trying to sell a home to a wealthy Black or Latina person.
It is not a classless comment, just a very real fact and observation and SO true! Further, exclusionary practices evolved and existed right up to the 1980s, although I wouldn't term it WASP precisely ... more white anglo-saxon Christian ...
Great program! Thankyou
I live a long -long way from Grosse Pointe today, but the memories of the early 1960's you have awakened in me are wonderful. And you had me absolutely absorbed or "ENGROSSED" in all the NEW historical facts I've learned. (Excuse my pun... I couldn't resist). NEW Facts like "Michael Cadieux" of 1830. No doubt why there is a street of the same name that runs across "Mack" Ave. And right past the Michigan Bell Telephone Company (Central -Office) that I knew so well that generates the prefixes: 881, 882, 884, 885, and a few others that I don't specifically remember now. My beautiful Aunt Nita's was 884. (I just KNOW everybody wanted to know that). HA! Excuse me again... I couldn't resist. AND... Oh yes... Some of the earliest Grosse Pointe residents were "The Trombleys" Who lived 2 doors down from us in 1974. I didn't know they were celebrities. Also, The "Renault's"... Well, we all know who THEY ARE! But the one thing I really didn't get, was... The name"GROSSE POINTE " derived it's name from some horrible massacre in 1712... "The FOX INDIAN MASSACRE" was it? Having it out with another tribe called "MASS-A-KINS" (did you say)? Well, WHY isn't it called "FOX POINTE"?? The (SIR NAME) "GROSSE" is definitely British! For as many times as the Britts were over here trying to grab on to Detroit, I thought there has to be a connecting story there. But I guess not! Well, it's been very interesting. I'd give you an equally interesting story about the Hell -Place I live in, but I wouldn't want your hair to drop -out for the language I'd have to use. Love you all... My long lost Michigan family, (I wish I'd never left). Jeff 17:51
Very interesting!!! My Grandfather had a tool/die business in Highland Park, Michigan from the 1920's on, making parts for Ford--- My G mother sold it in the 70's, but the business is still operating there----
5:00 The background music you hear is a french canadian tune named ''Un Canadien Errant'' (loosely translated ''A Wandering Canadian''. The lyrics talk about a french canadian banished from his homestead wandering far away in foreign countries saying that he remembers his friends (and misses them).
Great documentary on Grosse Pointe, and more importantly to me, Michigan history. Well done.
Very interesting video! Thanks for sharing! 🎶🤟
My 7x’s Great Grandfather Julien Freton dit Nanteis was one of the very fist settlers of Grosse Pointe an and I believe him or a son fought in the Civil War as well..I’m very proud to be his 7x’s great granddaughter.
Very interesting as I was born in Bon Secours Hospital I Grosse Pointe in 1957 and resided as an infant in Grosse Pointe at my father's Aunt Frances Locher's mansion where she wrote classical piano music as well as recorded it n my parents n I lived there in 1957, thru 1959 at the manse where I was attended to by a Mammy. I of course only heard the stories I do not remember much at all, except the grand staircase coming from both sides of the mansion meeting in the middle with the huge pillars n sweeping staircase that branched left n right. I still see it in my dreams, n I am now 65 yrs old!!! Also, my father's mother, my grandmother Locher who remarried my Grandfather Locher back in the 1930's, was the society column editor if the Detroit Free Press newspaper during the 1920's. Wow!!; Grosse Pointe was always special in my family!;
Fascinating.
Well done.
Well I MADE A MISTAKE! So... I came back to beg YOUR pardon, and correct it. 2 days ago I made the brash -blatent exclamation that "The SURNAME "GROSSE " is definitely British". Well it's NOT... It's "GERMAN"! Sure surprised me. I made the presumption that "Maurice Grosse"- a renouned (paranormal investigator... (now deceased) And, a very prim and proper (British acting gentleman) lead me to make an unresearched, cavalier statement that the name "GROSSE" was "BRITISH". Oops... I stand corrected. I hope you'll forgive me. Jeff 17:47
Sweet get up where can I get me one.
Metro Detroit must-read: The Bark Covered House (by William Nowlin) 👍 👍
Isn't this the place of an Indian curse and later on the mothman sightings?
Nice story, but it was whitewashed somewhat---- Narrator Tom Weaver stated at the beginning that Grosse Pointe was uninhabited-- Wrong-----
Native tribes had lived there for thousands of years---- Also, he touched on the treaty of 1783--- That was the treaty of Paris-- One of the worst treaties that the sub chiefs ever signed-- They didn't fully realize they were signing over millions of acres of ancestral land to the British--- Tecumseh was enraged with this development and tried to negate the treaty, leading up to the battles of Lake Erie, and Lake St Clair--- Tecumseh was killed at the Battle of the Thames R in 1813-----
WRONG. GP was just marsh area. The Indians didn't live in swamp land. LMAO. They aren't stupid. The narrator was correct. The GP area was uninhabited.
A lot of brain washed people in the comments SMDH
The Ethnic Pointe system for potential home buyers emphasized foreignness, rather than income or race. None of the questions seemed to eliminate Black or Latina peoples, but then were they ever in the running back then to buy a home in the pointes? No. And if per chance one was, they'd be steered away to homes in the city proper by GP realtors. I'm sure a realtor could be fired for trying to sell a home to a wealthy Black or Latina person.
Wrong topic cupcake. Did you even watch the video? Irrelevant comment.
Completely ignoring the Native American man behind you, and the other Native man who spoke of a culture you destroyed. And you’re proud.
No Indians lived in the Grosse Pointe Marsh area sweetie.
What an insult to the traditional owners.....
Who the beavers? It was marsh land
It was WASP ville. No blacks, Jews, foreigners
Come on
@@richardavery2894 it’s true though.
@@pangus9563 but true
Come on man !
It is not a classless comment, just a very real fact and observation and SO true! Further, exclusionary practices evolved and existed right up to the 1980s, although I wouldn't term it WASP precisely ... more white anglo-saxon Christian ...
All they no is how to take something what goes around comes around ONEDAY BOY O BOY
Im a proud 1st generation michigander but jesus that first part of the video was racist
Not really