Great video. I really think Castle is the best when you are new to the game. I introduced this game to about 10 friends through the years and one of my nephew and they all quickly moved to Castle in the first few games.
yeah many people seem to think so, this was not the case for me though, i found castle a bit more challenging to learn than towns like dungeon for example
Excellent stuff. By the way, your English and articulation is that good, that I can play the video at 1.25 speed. Real timesaver. At 1.5 is also possible. Cove at D. That's a pity. I like cove, especially since it's relatively new. And it's hard indeed. #coveislove
Bro I watch a lot of his vids on 2x and it’s easy to understand, he’s honestly got incredible english. The only reason cove is “d” is difficulty. He never said once that cove was bad. Because that’s false
@@alexanderkondratov Agreed - that's why I mentioned it as it needed to be mentioned, but I need to process the tons of information. Also I am a newbie, and am now torn between Dungeon (Minotaur stampede!) and Cove (fun units). I am sure that The Magician has a video on Cove strategy to help us wander cleverly in the swamps.
I wonder how much necros rating would be changed by picking Thant instead of Galthran. With him you don’t have to upgrade your Mage guild, always get enough magic stats for animate and can take some semi-freebie fights. Of course you still need to learn new skills, like how to best use your mana, but it still seems easier overall. I guess the question is how much better a well played Galthran is compared to a well played Thant, people probably pick Galthran for a reason.
The advantage that Galthran brings are the 3 skeletons stacks, which gives you up to 90 skeletons just from him on day 1, and that allows you to tempo very well. Thant is good, but much slower, as it will take a while for you to gather enough spellpower/knowledge and skeletons to be effective. Also Galthran's skeleton specialty and armorer/stats make those skeletons way better than they would be on thant.
@@alex_the_magician9483 That is definitely true. Although it is noteworthy that skeletons are a lot stronger on Thant compared to your average necromancer. Because spell specialties give you 3% per Hero level divided by target creature level and skeletons are level 1, which means Thants specialty is really great on skeletons in particular. In practice this means that means that a level 20 Thant can more than match the power of an opponents implosion with his animate, where other heroes would barely raise 2/3 of the skeletons that died.
To me personally, Castle was (and probably still would be) the easiest. But my reason is completely different from this video. Maybe just me. Creatures in Castle feel closest to real life, thus it's very intuitive to know what they are capable of (more or less) while all others are like from different Universe. Especially Conflict, all of them look scary at the first look.
makes sense, and a lot of other's agree with you, but i personally found castle a bit more challenging to learn than other towns, probably has to do with my playstyle
@@alex_the_magician9483 Oops, I didn't see the response 😅 Yeah, I agree regarding playstyles. Mine is completely different as I'm still stuck in 2000s where there are no 1-stack creatures 😃 Just full stacks with 7 different (level) creatures and thus I measure the difficulty based on these conditions.
😂 dungeon and Necro are definitely the S tier, because of the easy strategy picks, meteoshower magic plus magic Ring and two cheap ranged units; Necro is only about skeleton stack and rush for vampire. Under ground towns are easier to defend, also have higher probability of the critical magics
Castle Inferno is very hard, demon farming is super hard to do, magogs will kill your own units, all the units are squishy, bad overpriced special buildings that make you waste resources on them.
Hmm i have a question. How swamp terrain penalty works then? I used to think you do not get penalty for a (for example) swamp terrain if you're playing fortress and you have only natives in your army. How is it then? You get lesser penalty or...? And, do you have a guide on how to download Hota?
For me conflix has complicated problem with cratures and using their positive and negative points with phoenix and pixies speed . Tower problem (VERY EXPENSIVE) ; normally you buy 5 or 6 tier in tower you could not buy 3 tier unit , problem solved when you have money mines , boosts and another towns . Wyvern are the chepiest creatures and building cost for me , in second or third day you could easily build Wyvern nest . I like Castle and Rampart, my obvious choise to play , stronghood wasnt that hard , without conflux and necropolis I had a really really tuff time playing with tower , I just cant do it its too hard if I dont have enough resources.
It’s easy to feel that, to,play the game properly and enjoy it you should learn all the races . But.. Bouncing from faction to faction before you know the game mechanics well will steepen the learning curve considerably. For most people, choosing a faction and sticking to it until you know all the common game mechanics will make the learning process much easier.
Do new players focus on creature banks like Hives though? When I played back in the day when I knew very little about the game, I only bought units from my own towns pretty much. What do you consider a new players then?
I feel like Dungeon is easier but Castle is the town they strcutured the tutorial to show off and the development team had that sentiment in mind. Dungeon has two melee units. So you have the no retaliation flier in the hags, the two ranged units at level 3 and 4, and both of the 6th and 7th are flying units.
Tower is obviously the easiest one because it is both spells-centered and has three archers, I disagree with it being so low. Dungeon is also S tier because harpies are somewhat archer-like, especially when you haste them. Stronghold also has 3 archers but it is not spell-centered (and orcs suck), so probably A-tier. The thing about archers + spells is that you can mass slow and take down enemies without losing your troops, which I believe addresses the begginner's most crucial problem in Heroes 3 - when am I prepared to take down amount Y of monster X?
I'm looking to start playing some online and I am super happy that my all time favourite Dungeon is the easiest to learn :D. Thank you for these tips. I would also love to check some guide to how to learn to play dungeon PVP.
Hi ! I like the work put thanks for your video but I dont understand at all why Fortress is ''easy'' same goes for Dungeon who except minotaurs and black dragons are pretty mediocre units and can be really hard if you dont start underground. Fortress early can be really hard if you compare most town, the best ''clear'' for 1v1 scenarios is the rush wyvern and if you are lucky to get hive close, but in some games you will not find any and it's not the lizardmens that will do something else. So you put Fortress easy because of hive... but if you have none ? or just 1 ? And if Castle get 2 conservatory ? Yeah they got better units... I dont really understand your point here ! Maybe it's because we are not targeting the same ''newbie'' ? Maybe for you newbie is an experimented player that will go on multiplayer ? For me newbie is a pure beginner that learn the game even against AI. I mean you said in the video ''just gg wp'' and restart but you can't leave like that except against AI ? In the situation you dont get hive you are just fucked and Fortress is hard. Tower can be the same with lamps but not S tier ? Castle with conservatory is not S tier ? Really ? :O I also don't get the argument of ''terrain penality'' for swamp since you can just pick up serpent fly and avoid others races units except for the final battle, yeah sometime it can be annoying if you find some good units like lamps or conservatory but honestly it's not that a thing for me. My tierlist : S : Castle, Rempart, Cove A : Inferno B : Necropolis, Tower C : Conflux D : Stronghold, Dungeon, Fortress I feel the first 3 one just very polyvalent everywhere and it's why for me Cove in bottom of your list is a big error in the ''hard'' tier since they are like Castle in a sence : very strong creatures overhaul. Pirates are absolutly good if you can manage to have sea dogs, the crew mate are just way better zombies/dwarfs IMO. The nymph is a better Pixie... The Aysids are like the wolf rider but easier to manage, probably one of the hardest unit to use here. Both Nix, Sorceress are pretty evident : tanky and ranged damage dealer but squichy, both work well toogether. Haspids are one of the best t7 unit if you can have a lot of them. Not special hard to use, maybe except the fact they are not superfast. Nix is probably the best t6 unit if you can powerstack and you are in late game. Like this town is in a way like Castle, they are good everywhere.
Thanks for the comment! So my videos deal mostly with online play, and I mostly play Jebus Cross, so the list is pretty heavily influenced by that. On Jebus Cross, you usually don't rely on building up your town for army, you rely on farming conservatories, pickets, hives, and experimental shops for army. So this is why dungeon and fortress are easy in a sense, it is easy to start farming hives with them for example, and snowball wyvern. Towns like castle and rampart are not as good at farming hives, and the ranged early game power stack, while easy to use is squishy and very susceptible to morale, so to me they are more difficult to learn. And regarding cove - as I mentioned, the terrain is the biggest problem because while cove can farm pickets and conservatories pretty easily, carrying those units through the swamp is very costly in terms of movement unless you have pathfinding/wings/boots. Fortress has the same penalty, but fortress is good at farming hives, while cove is not. I hope that makes sense!
Just watched the video, and I Am going to express my opinion why several points was wrong with it: First lets settle who is a New player. A: just came for nostalgia and knows nothing about the game. B: watched streamers and wanted to try out the game Netiher of them knows how to play the game, but B actually knows what (s)he should do. Next: netiher player knows how to: Chain army The impirtance if creature banks and how to take those And the most important, how to transfer your lead or turbo. And last: there are actually 2 formats now: jc/jk and jo1. Going town by town from the video: Cove: around middle tier, because For B: building Nixxes is easy and fast (side note, New players break around 1-4-1 maybe 1-3-1 if lucky) For A: ranged creatures are harder to bleed Stornghold: one of the hardest, because if its highrolling nature. You need to know what to do, what you can and cannot take. And what to do if you highroll, and these are things that come with experience. Necro: one of the easiest towns, bevauee you don't know you should take banks generally, you will not go for them, so you play properly by default, the sekelton animte style or vampire lords. In jo, its actually one of the hardest factions. Conflux: Luna and Confi wre 2 different towns. So about Luna first, as A you don't know she is the strongest hero so2 you dont pick her, as B you know it, and its not thst hard to break, I think one of the easiest to learn how to break week 1, but you Need to do some research on it, the problem is, you dont know2 what to do with tempo she gives. Conflux town: one of the hardest, because it has so many decision makeing involved, up to ranged creatures or not to be specific. Tower: you don't really know, thst you have to go for lamps as A, as B its good., I would say A tier, just because it has an easy start with gremlins. Castle: to play properly and to decide whst powerstack you will go, when to give up archers, how to tske curchyard with archers and 4 pikemens, makes it a hard town for me, around C mayb3 low B tier. Rampi, easy to start, hard to finish, insanely hard for jo1. Inferno: I would go for B, bevause even tho tue town is not hard, you just don't get2 the resoults, or hard to get it, for this town specificly beeing the weakest does come in, because beeing weak makes it hard to transfer into the lategame, efreet dwellings are hard to take. Fortress easiest town, same reason as necro, you take hives by default, without knowing it is actually the best way to play in general. Tanky units so not bleeding that much. Dungeon: I would say A tier, bevause you can go for turbo Dragons with dwelling and portal, you still need to know on how to use that tempo, but it is easier with it, maybe the onyl thing that holds it back, from S tier,like fortress, is bevause fakebreath setup is requiered to2 make it happen, and you don't really know how to do it. Before haters, I do respect several points that was made in the video, I might not agree with all of them tho. One more thing I would add to the video, is the heroes, and skill trees, because knew player might not know what to swtich to for main, and end up going for starter hero main, or same town main.
One more sidenote: the reason I considered town stremgth in some cases: for example inferno and fortress, because everybody makes mistakes, new players especially, and the lvl of punishment is diff, for inferno and stronghold you get giga punished, and might lose the game on2 the spot, while fortress can back it up and come back into thr game.
@@richierich5170 PoG really helps. So that's kinda how to do it with Castle. If the map give a PoG near the road then have 2-3 manageable size Cons, it's kinda make it easier to break. Right now I'm getting Training Grounds practicing against computer. Kinda tricky since I have to locate a stable. Then chain it from stable to the creature banks. I'm really not used to chaining heroes and movement efficiency. But thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it. I really don't know what is the strategy for Castle. At least now I have an idea what to look after in a map.
@@peterjohnjimenez Yep, I usually try to go for pogs with castle or at least training grounds. Without that, you'd need to find some additional meat in boxes/side towns/prisons or additional dwellings to do hives. The fun thing about castle is that you can go archangels and be really strong in the late game. I try to look for maps with 1 or more pogs, a couple of consas and utopias, and then just build angels on week 1, farm utopias with the additional angels on 121, get archangels and pwn everything (doesn't always work out though, last time I lost with like 15 archangels on 123 or 124, although it was really close).
Chances are good newer players will play it on easy or normal mode, so more resources to start with. I honestly think castle is the best to start with just simply because its very balanced.
Great analysis, but I have to completely disagree with the philosophy of this video. The title says easiest towns to learn for "newbies"... yet nearly every breakdown referenced advanced competitive strategies. That's not "newbies". This breakdown might be a fantastic tier list for "easiest towns to learn how to be competitive", but it's not good for new players just trying to learn how to play the game. The only tier that even got close to that was the A tier, which mentioned not needing to learn how to kite and other strategies. That's what newbies need. Which towns have the simplest or most intuitive building progression? Which towns have the easiest units to understand, without complicated abilities? Which towns can explore the map and win simple battles without using advanced strategies (no "newbie" is taking high level dwellings on day 1). If you try to teach a player, who is touching this game for the first time, how to do these crazy farming techniques, advanced combat strategies, manage 6 or 8 heroes, working around terrain penalties, etc etc before they even know how to progress their buildings, hire units, and cast spells, you're going to overwhelm and confuse them. Basing a "newbie" tier list off knowing those things is completely contradictory. Again, great list and analysis for learning to be competitive, but not for newbies. Maybe keep this question in mind for a list like this: "I have just installed the game and am playing it for the first time; which town will be the easiest for me to pick up and play to learn the basic mechanics of the game by myself with no one breathing over my shoulder?"
Fair point. However, what you may not realize is that pretty much all of my videos deal with online play (I've mentioned this in some of my early videos, but I'm not going to say this in every single video I make). So what the title really means is that it's for newbies to online play, not complete newbies who have never even played the game before. So yeah, I am assuming that this "newbie" has a certain level of knowledge of the game already and I share what I think is needed, based on my own experience, to transition from casual gameplay to competitive.
@@alex_the_magician9483it is for « newbies »… newbies on the competitive scene… not people who’ve never touched the game. The channel as a whole is not for them. I’m baffled by all these comments.
this rating only makes sense as beginner for competitive level which is actually wuite advanced. there is now way fortress is easier than tower for someone just starting to play. may be with ballance changes of extensions, but in SOD - no way.
i started out playing necros cause i like playing the undead.... boy did i get my ass beat. played mroe games and i was finally able to learn how to get the doom stack of skeletons just to get my ass beat yet again man those players who been playing for years DID NOT PLAY at all when they saw a necro player (even though i said i was new to the game they beat the absolute dog out of me)
I've been playing HOMM since HOMM2 came out in the early 90's, grew up with it, and its really cool seeing people playing HOMM3 again. Lol the other day I was walking by my next door neighbor's house and saw he was playing HOMM3 thru the window. As someone who has been playing HOMM3 for 25 years, IMO the rank of town strength goes from best to worst: Tower, Conflux, Dungeon, Castle, Rampart, Necropolis, Stronghold, Fortress, Cove, Inferno. Tower has the only ranged tier 7 in the game, Giants are actually great melee fighters and cheap to produce, naga queens will wreck your day worse than some tier 7's because of no retaliation, library gives you tons of spells... I put Conflux over Dungeon because of magic elementals and phoenix's. They also have readily available and cheap ranged units for the early game and can force strong magic skills with the university. Dungeon is only OP in the late game.
i really loved to have stack of 1k + on T1 "bowler" the gremlins with upgrade to range, they kill T7 in a shot but die so quickly sadly to 1 bigspell or whatever, still i like to have Solmyr start and tower, i think i install the game today and do a solo session for nostalgia lol
Keep in mind that this video, and this entire channel, is talking about 1v1 competitive HoMM3, as in Jebus Cross map specifically. This is an incredibly specific setting in which only certain aspects of the game are relevant. You talk about Naga Queens and the library for example but these aren't particularly relevant to Jebus Cross where the first 2 weeks are the most important part of the game so you will likely have access to neither for most of it. If you were to talk about general game play on random maps or whatever, which generally means playing single player vs the AI(in whichever setting you choose) than your rankings would have a bit more merit, but even than it's still very much context dependent on which settings you play in. Basically the map and settings(single vs multiplayer, number of players, map, etc) is the most important factor and actually determines how weak or strong each specific town is. some towns are stronger in small maps, others in large maps, some are amazing early game but fall off hard, others take time to bloom but they're unstoppable if you manage to get there, etc.
I really like HOMM3 and its random map generator. Is there a YT channel that has content like this for me? Kind of tired of hearing about pickets and JC as if THAT is what HOMM3 is. But not everybody plays HOTA, JC, and MP. Thanks!
What's up everyone?! My name is Alex, I'm 32 and live in Ukraine. After years and years of working for "the man" I finally realized that it was not for me and decided to give up my successful and well paying career and work on something of my own. So here I am, doing my best to turn streaming/content creation into a career. Currently I stream Heroes of Might and Magic 3: HOTA, but in the future I will likely stream other games as well.
Funny, I played Heroes 3 for a very long time and not once had I ever considered Necro as the Strongest town. If its the Skeleton Exploit, then I am afraid that is nulled by Slow and Ranged Attacks. Vampire Lords are good but a skilled player can simply slow or immobilize them and simply outmaneuver them, nullifying their regeneration. Finally, Necro has very squishy Units aside from the Death Knight and maybe the Ghost Dragon. Maybe (Even though I stomped 100 Ghost Dragons with only 3 Stacks of Cyclops Kings with 30 per stack)
@@ruz54 all 4 are map objectives where you fight and get either resourcers artifacts or creatures in return for fighting them. Pickets are Horn of The Abyss objects, so not in oroginal game, and you can obtain Cyclops from them, i think up to 10 or 12. Crypts are buildings where you fight some undead and get gold and sometimes even some items, depending on how strong the enemy is . In Imp Caches you fight imps and get gold and Mercury and dwarven treasuries are the same exept you fight dwarves for gold and crystal.
121 means month 1 week 2 day 1, break is a tough guard on the Jebus Cross template that separates your starting zone from the desert treasure zone. Have a look at this video of you'd like to learn more: ruclips.net/video/G3PpTGeh0H0/видео.html
Started a couple days ago! Played the game as a kid ofc but playing it efficiently and smart it seems like a total different game. Thank you for this!
Happy to help! Good luck in your games!
Great video. I really think Castle is the best when you are new to the game. I introduced this game to about 10 friends through the years and one of my nephew and they all quickly moved to Castle in the first few games.
yeah many people seem to think so, this was not the case for me though, i found castle a bit more challenging to learn than towns like dungeon for example
This is a brilliant video, one of your best! Thanks for the content, I really appreciate this one. Interesting to hear your thoughts on Necro!
Glad you liked it!
Excellent stuff. By the way, your English and articulation is that good, that I can play the video at 1.25 speed. Real timesaver. At 1.5 is also possible.
Cove at D. That's a pity. I like cove, especially since it's relatively new. And it's hard indeed.
#coveislove
Bro I watch a lot of his vids on 2x and it’s easy to understand, he’s honestly got incredible english. The only reason cove is “d” is difficulty. He never said once that cove was bad. Because that’s false
@@alexanderkondratov Agreed - that's why I mentioned it as it needed to be mentioned, but I need to process the tons of information.
Also I am a newbie, and am now torn between Dungeon (Minotaur stampede!) and Cove (fun units). I am sure that The Magician has a video on Cove strategy to help us wander cleverly in the swamps.
Thanks for the kind words :)
Dude at first i thought he was American until i realised where he really is from. I still think he s living in an English speaking country.
Perfect video for my noob gameplay. As always, top notch content. Thanks Alex.
I wonder how much necros rating would be changed by picking Thant instead of Galthran. With him you don’t have to upgrade your Mage guild, always get enough magic stats for animate and can take some semi-freebie fights. Of course you still need to learn new skills, like how to best use your mana, but it still seems easier overall. I guess the question is how much better a well played Galthran is compared to a well played Thant, people probably pick Galthran for a reason.
The advantage that Galthran brings are the 3 skeletons stacks, which gives you up to 90 skeletons just from him on day 1, and that allows you to tempo very well. Thant is good, but much slower, as it will take a while for you to gather enough spellpower/knowledge and skeletons to be effective. Also Galthran's skeleton specialty and armorer/stats make those skeletons way better than they would be on thant.
@@alex_the_magician9483 That is definitely true. Although it is noteworthy that skeletons are a lot stronger on Thant compared to your average necromancer. Because spell specialties give you 3% per Hero level divided by target creature level and skeletons are level 1, which means Thants specialty is really great on skeletons in particular. In practice this means that means that a level 20 Thant can more than match the power of an opponents implosion with his animate, where other heroes would barely raise 2/3 of the skeletons that died.
@@LaplaceDaemon That's true.
To me personally, Castle was (and probably still would be) the easiest. But my reason is completely different from this video. Maybe just me. Creatures in Castle feel closest to real life, thus it's very intuitive to know what they are capable of (more or less) while all others are like from different Universe. Especially Conflict, all of them look scary at the first look.
makes sense, and a lot of other's agree with you, but i personally found castle a bit more challenging to learn than other towns, probably has to do with my playstyle
@@alex_the_magician9483 Oops, I didn't see the response 😅
Yeah, I agree regarding playstyles. Mine is completely different as I'm still stuck in 2000s where there are no 1-stack creatures 😃 Just full stacks with 7 different (level) creatures and thus I measure the difficulty based on these conditions.
I thought necro was easy because the army builds itself and it's insane outside of hota
Because of the 100 turn limit Lorelei no longer can break 111 so only Luna left
😂 dungeon and Necro are definitely the S tier, because of the easy strategy picks, meteoshower magic plus magic Ring and two cheap ranged units; Necro is only about skeleton stack and rush for vampire. Under ground towns are easier to defend, also have higher probability of the critical magics
when I started to play homm3 in the end of 2018 my nick was 'Galthran' now its beastmaster so I basically degraded from D to S sadge xDD
Next nickname: fairy
Castle
Inferno is very hard, demon farming is super hard to do, magogs will kill your own units, all the units are squishy, bad overpriced special buildings that make you waste resources on them.
For me personally castle was hard to learn.
Do you have a video on town tiers when it comes to PvP auctioning? I.e. how much should I bit between two specific towns?
As a matter of fact I do! ruclips.net/video/BRRdJoo3aOQ/видео.html
Hmm i have a question. How swamp terrain penalty works then? I used to think you do not get penalty for a (for example) swamp terrain if you're playing fortress and you have only natives in your army. How is it then? You get lesser penalty or...?
And, do you have a guide on how to download Hota?
Nice! Thanks for the content.
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Hey Alex can you do a tutorial on how to download different templates
Not sure I'm the expert to ask, but I'll think about it. Thanks for the idea!
For me conflix has complicated problem with cratures and using their positive and negative points with phoenix and pixies speed .
Tower problem (VERY EXPENSIVE) ; normally you buy 5 or 6 tier in tower you could not buy 3 tier unit , problem solved when you have money mines , boosts and another towns .
Wyvern are the chepiest creatures and building cost for me , in second or third day you could easily build Wyvern nest .
I like Castle and Rampart, my obvious choise to play , stronghood wasnt that hard , without conflux and necropolis I had a really really tuff time playing with tower , I just cant do it its too hard if I dont have enough resources.
good points, thx for sharing
It’s easy to feel that, to,play the game properly and enjoy it you should learn all the races . But..
Bouncing from faction to faction before you know the game mechanics well will steepen the learning curve considerably.
For most people, choosing a faction and sticking to it until you know all the common game mechanics will make the learning process much easier.
Do new players focus on creature banks like Hives though? When I played back in the day when I knew very little about the game, I only bought units from my own towns pretty much. What do you consider a new players then?
Castle is and has always been my favourite and I think it's pretty easy, I see you also ranked it as the third easiest.
for me personally it wasn't so easy to learn, but i know a lot of people consider it easy and i can see how
I feel like Dungeon is easier but Castle is the town they strcutured the tutorial to show off and the development team had that sentiment in mind.
Dungeon has two melee units. So you have the no retaliation flier in the hags, the two ranged units at level 3 and 4, and both of the 6th and 7th are flying units.
Necro is the best and was easy to play. I just got hota 2 weeks ago and I understand that placement, and now necro is hard :(
haha, yeah necromancy got nerfed in HotA quite a bit.
Tower is obviously the easiest one because it is both spells-centered and has three archers, I disagree with it being so low. Dungeon is also S tier because harpies are somewhat archer-like, especially when you haste them. Stronghold also has 3 archers but it is not spell-centered (and orcs suck), so probably A-tier. The thing about archers + spells is that you can mass slow and take down enemies without losing your troops, which I believe addresses the begginner's most crucial problem in Heroes 3 - when am I prepared to take down amount Y of monster X?
I'm looking to start playing some online and I am super happy that my all time favourite Dungeon is the easiest to learn :D. Thank you for these tips. I would also love to check some guide to how to learn to play dungeon PVP.
These vids should help :)
basic overview: ruclips.net/video/Fsw668mKmzo/видео.html
full week 1 playthrough: ruclips.net/video/OIcdoblXhKY/видео.html
Hi ! I like the work put thanks for your video but I dont understand at all why Fortress is ''easy'' same goes for Dungeon who except minotaurs and black dragons are pretty mediocre units and can be really hard if you dont start underground. Fortress early can be really hard if you compare most town, the best ''clear'' for 1v1 scenarios is the rush wyvern and if you are lucky to get hive close, but in some games you will not find any and it's not the lizardmens that will do something else. So you put Fortress easy because of hive... but if you have none ? or just 1 ? And if Castle get 2 conservatory ? Yeah they got better units... I dont really understand your point here ! Maybe it's because we are not targeting the same ''newbie'' ? Maybe for you newbie is an experimented player that will go on multiplayer ? For me newbie is a pure beginner that learn the game even against AI.
I mean you said in the video ''just gg wp'' and restart but you can't leave like that except against AI ? In the situation you dont get hive you are just fucked and Fortress is hard. Tower can be the same with lamps but not S tier ? Castle with conservatory is not S tier ? Really ? :O
I also don't get the argument of ''terrain penality'' for swamp since you can just pick up serpent fly and avoid others races units except for the final battle, yeah sometime it can be annoying if you find some good units like lamps or conservatory but honestly it's not that a thing for me.
My tierlist :
S : Castle, Rempart, Cove
A : Inferno
B : Necropolis, Tower
C : Conflux
D : Stronghold, Dungeon, Fortress
I feel the first 3 one just very polyvalent everywhere and it's why for me Cove in bottom of your list is a big error in the ''hard'' tier since they are like Castle in a sence : very strong creatures overhaul. Pirates are absolutly good if you can manage to have sea dogs, the crew mate are just way better zombies/dwarfs IMO. The nymph is a better Pixie... The Aysids are like the wolf rider but easier to manage, probably one of the hardest unit to use here. Both Nix, Sorceress are pretty evident : tanky and ranged damage dealer but squichy, both work well toogether. Haspids are one of the best t7 unit if you can have a lot of them. Not special hard to use, maybe except the fact they are not superfast. Nix is probably the best t6 unit if you can powerstack and you are in late game. Like this town is in a way like Castle, they are good everywhere.
Thanks for the comment!
So my videos deal mostly with online play, and I mostly play Jebus Cross, so the list is pretty heavily influenced by that. On Jebus Cross, you usually don't rely on building up your town for army, you rely on farming conservatories, pickets, hives, and experimental shops for army.
So this is why dungeon and fortress are easy in a sense, it is easy to start farming hives with them for example, and snowball wyvern. Towns like castle and rampart are not as good at farming hives, and the ranged early game power stack, while easy to use is squishy and very susceptible to morale, so to me they are more difficult to learn. And regarding cove - as I mentioned, the terrain is the biggest problem because while cove can farm pickets and conservatories pretty easily, carrying those units through the swamp is very costly in terms of movement unless you have pathfinding/wings/boots. Fortress has the same penalty, but fortress is good at farming hives, while cove is not.
I hope that makes sense!
Just watched the video, and I Am going to express my opinion why several points was wrong with it:
First lets settle who is a New player.
A: just came for nostalgia and knows nothing about the game.
B: watched streamers and wanted to try out the game
Netiher of them knows how to play the game, but B actually knows what (s)he should do.
Next: netiher player knows how to:
Chain army
The impirtance if creature banks and how to take those
And the most important, how to transfer your lead or turbo.
And last: there are actually 2 formats now: jc/jk and jo1.
Going town by town from the video:
Cove: around middle tier, because
For B: building Nixxes is easy and fast (side note, New players break around 1-4-1 maybe 1-3-1 if lucky)
For A: ranged creatures are harder to bleed
Stornghold: one of the hardest, because if its highrolling nature. You need to know what to do, what you can and cannot take. And what to do if you highroll, and these are things that come with experience.
Necro: one of the easiest towns, bevauee you don't know you should take banks generally, you will not go for them, so you play properly by default, the sekelton animte style or vampire lords. In jo, its actually one of the hardest factions.
Conflux: Luna and Confi wre 2 different towns. So about Luna first, as A you don't know she is the strongest hero so2 you dont pick her, as B you know it, and its not thst hard to break, I think one of the easiest to learn how to break week 1, but you Need to do some research on it, the problem is, you dont know2 what to do with tempo she gives.
Conflux town: one of the hardest, because it has so many decision makeing involved, up to ranged creatures or not to be specific.
Tower: you don't really know, thst you have to go for lamps as A, as B its good., I would say A tier, just because it has an easy start with gremlins.
Castle: to play properly and to decide whst powerstack you will go, when to give up archers, how to tske curchyard with archers and 4 pikemens, makes it a hard town for me, around C mayb3 low B tier.
Rampi, easy to start, hard to finish, insanely hard for jo1.
Inferno: I would go for B, bevause even tho tue town is not hard, you just don't get2 the resoults, or hard to get it, for this town specificly beeing the weakest does come in, because beeing weak makes it hard to transfer into the lategame, efreet dwellings are hard to take.
Fortress easiest town, same reason as necro, you take hives by default, without knowing it is actually the best way to play in general. Tanky units so not bleeding that much.
Dungeon: I would say A tier, bevause you can go for turbo Dragons with dwelling and portal, you still need to know on how to use that tempo, but it is easier with it, maybe the onyl thing that holds it back, from S tier,like fortress, is bevause fakebreath setup is requiered to2 make it happen, and you don't really know how to do it.
Before haters, I do respect several points that was made in the video, I might not agree with all of them tho.
One more thing I would add to the video, is the heroes, and skill trees, because knew player might not know what to swtich to for main, and end up going for starter hero main, or same town main.
With not agreeing I meant: I might value some things over others, when talking about starters in general
One more sidenote: the reason I considered town stremgth in some cases: for example inferno and fortress, because everybody makes mistakes, new players especially, and the lvl of punishment is diff, for inferno and stronghold you get giga punished, and might lose the game on2 the spot, while fortress can back it up and come back into thr game.
just so many letters dude)) Looks like you are turk according to your nikname are you our Izmir friend?
About templates: theres plenty of people who play nostalgia 6lm and other ones too
Thank you. This guy gets it.
I'm currently struggling with Castle. Really hard to take pickets/Hives/Cons... Size one experimental shop is all I can take with day 1 army hehehe...
Prioritise dwellings. A size one cons is doable though risky. Everything else isn't worth the losses
@@richierich5170 That's what I have been doing now. But scouting and checking what the map gives you in JC is quite challenging.
@@peterjohnjimenez it definitely is. It can get quite frustrating with castle. Especially if you don't find a pog turn one or two.
@@richierich5170 PoG really helps. So that's kinda how to do it with Castle.
If the map give a PoG near the road then have 2-3 manageable size Cons, it's kinda make it easier to break.
Right now I'm getting Training Grounds practicing against computer. Kinda tricky since I have to locate a stable. Then chain it from stable to the creature banks. I'm really not used to chaining heroes and movement efficiency.
But thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it. I really don't know what is the strategy for Castle. At least now I have an idea what to look after in a map.
@@peterjohnjimenez Yep, I usually try to go for pogs with castle or at least training grounds. Without that, you'd need to find some additional meat in boxes/side towns/prisons or additional dwellings to do hives.
The fun thing about castle is that you can go archangels and be really strong in the late game. I try to look for maps with 1 or more pogs, a couple of consas and utopias, and then just build angels on week 1, farm utopias with the additional angels on 121, get archangels and pwn everything (doesn't always work out though, last time I lost with like 15 archangels on 123 or 124, although it was really close).
What are those 2 castles in the bottom on my version last castle was elemental
Necropolis - Stronghold - Cove
Cove town is from the Horn of the Abyss fanmod
Appreciate this video.
And the video appreciates you too! (and so do I :))
Chances are good newer players will play it on easy or normal mode, so more resources to start with. I honestly think castle is the best to start with just simply because its very balanced.
Great analysis, but I have to completely disagree with the philosophy of this video. The title says easiest towns to learn for "newbies"... yet nearly every breakdown referenced advanced competitive strategies. That's not "newbies". This breakdown might be a fantastic tier list for "easiest towns to learn how to be competitive", but it's not good for new players just trying to learn how to play the game. The only tier that even got close to that was the A tier, which mentioned not needing to learn how to kite and other strategies. That's what newbies need. Which towns have the simplest or most intuitive building progression? Which towns have the easiest units to understand, without complicated abilities? Which towns can explore the map and win simple battles without using advanced strategies (no "newbie" is taking high level dwellings on day 1).
If you try to teach a player, who is touching this game for the first time, how to do these crazy farming techniques, advanced combat strategies, manage 6 or 8 heroes, working around terrain penalties, etc etc before they even know how to progress their buildings, hire units, and cast spells, you're going to overwhelm and confuse them. Basing a "newbie" tier list off knowing those things is completely contradictory.
Again, great list and analysis for learning to be competitive, but not for newbies. Maybe keep this question in mind for a list like this: "I have just installed the game and am playing it for the first time; which town will be the easiest for me to pick up and play to learn the basic mechanics of the game by myself with no one breathing over my shoulder?"
Fair point.
However, what you may not realize is that pretty much all of my videos deal with online play (I've mentioned this in some of my early videos, but I'm not going to say this in every single video I make). So what the title really means is that it's for newbies to online play, not complete newbies who have never even played the game before. So yeah, I am assuming that this "newbie" has a certain level of knowledge of the game already and I share what I think is needed, based on my own experience, to transition from casual gameplay to competitive.
@@alex_the_magician9483it is for « newbies »… newbies on the competitive scene… not people who’ve never touched the game. The channel as a whole is not for them. I’m baffled by all these comments.
Is this based on Jebus cross template ?
Not only, I think this applies to other templates as well (not universally of course, but more or less)
Hi. Great Video. Would you actually recommend buyin the HD Version or the GoG-Version? :-) Want to play with friends also... Ty very much!
Gog version. Hd from steam is trash
@@alex_the_magician9483 and then installing the HD mod + HoTA i guess? :-)
this rating only makes sense as beginner for competitive level which is actually wuite advanced.
there is now way fortress is easier than tower for someone just starting to play.
may be with ballance changes of extensions, but in SOD - no way.
i started out playing necros cause i like playing the undead.... boy did i get my ass beat. played mroe games and i was finally able to learn how to get the doom stack of skeletons just to get my ass beat yet again man those players who been playing for years DID NOT PLAY at all when they saw a necro player (even though i said i was new to the game they beat the absolute dog out of me)
I've been playing HOMM since HOMM2 came out in the early 90's, grew up with it, and its really cool seeing people playing HOMM3 again. Lol the other day I was walking by my next door neighbor's house and saw he was playing HOMM3 thru the window. As someone who has been playing HOMM3 for 25 years, IMO the rank of town strength goes from best to worst: Tower, Conflux, Dungeon, Castle, Rampart, Necropolis, Stronghold, Fortress, Cove, Inferno. Tower has the only ranged tier 7 in the game, Giants are actually great melee fighters and cheap to produce, naga queens will wreck your day worse than some tier 7's because of no retaliation, library gives you tons of spells... I put Conflux over Dungeon because of magic elementals and phoenix's. They also have readily available and cheap ranged units for the early game and can force strong magic skills with the university. Dungeon is only OP in the late game.
i really loved to have stack of 1k + on T1 "bowler" the gremlins with upgrade to range, they kill T7 in a shot but die so quickly sadly to 1 bigspell or whatever, still i like to have Solmyr start and tower, i think i install the game today and do a solo session for nostalgia lol
Keep in mind that this video, and this entire channel, is talking about 1v1 competitive HoMM3, as in Jebus Cross map specifically. This is an incredibly specific setting in which only certain aspects of the game are relevant. You talk about Naga Queens and the library for example but these aren't particularly relevant to Jebus Cross where the first 2 weeks are the most important part of the game so you will likely have access to neither for most of it. If you were to talk about general game play on random maps or whatever, which generally means playing single player vs the AI(in whichever setting you choose) than your rankings would have a bit more merit, but even than it's still very much context dependent on which settings you play in. Basically the map and settings(single vs multiplayer, number of players, map, etc) is the most important factor and actually determines how weak or strong each specific town is. some towns are stronger in small maps, others in large maps, some are amazing early game but fall off hard, others take time to bloom but they're unstoppable if you manage to get there, etc.
I really like HOMM3 and its random map generator. Is there a YT channel that has content like this for me? Kind of tired of hearing about pickets and JC as if THAT is what HOMM3 is. But not everybody plays HOTA, JC, and MP. Thanks!
12:54 i always play with grindan when im playing conflux cause of earth magic
Castle - without watching. Edit - you never wrote "multiplayer" that is completely different game. For multi it is a good analys.
thx, i win against easy A.i. with castle,today.
GJ! Happy to help :)
alternative title: ranking each faction from worst to best
Rempart and Castle are the best for newbies in my opinion.
For some people that may be true, but for me personally I found them more difficult than fortress/dungeon when I was a noob.
I've played this game for over 25 years and never heard of "Cove" what expansion or else where do I get "Cove"?
Horn of the Abyss fanmod
What's up everyone?!
My name is Alex, I'm 32 and live in Ukraine.
After years and years of working for "the man" I finally realized that it was not for me and decided to give up my successful and well paying career and work on something of my own. So here I am, doing my best to turn streaming/content creation into a career.
Currently I stream Heroes of Might and Magic 3: HOTA, but in the future I will likely stream other games as well.
Hope it will work out for you then . Not that i will follow you , since i dont use Twitch but good luck .
Kenny? That you, old boy?
Everyone knows lord heart in the castle version is the best.
Lol
ABH did 111 break vs upg nix as harpy spec hero
Took more than 100 rounds. Wouldn’t work anymore as theres a 100 round limit for combat in hota now.
Do u think this video deserves an update with all the changes ?
Stronghold -> C imho
agree with the rest
Good content!
Thank you! :)
Funny, I played Heroes 3 for a very long time and not once had I ever considered Necro as the Strongest town. If its the Skeleton Exploit, then I am afraid that is nulled by Slow and Ranged Attacks.
Vampire Lords are good but a skilled player can simply slow or immobilize them and simply outmaneuver them, nullifying their regeneration.
Finally, Necro has very squishy Units aside from the Death Knight and maybe the Ghost Dragon. Maybe (Even though I stomped 100 Ghost Dragons with only 3 Stacks of Cyclops Kings with 30 per stack)
i played heroes 3 for probably 200-500 hours and i have no idea what are u talking about LOL is there a dictionary for homm players? hmm
What terms dont you understand ?
@@shadowpriest2574 pickets, crypt, dwarven treasury, inn cashes
@@ruz54 all 4 are map objectives where you fight and get either resourcers artifacts or creatures in return for fighting them. Pickets are Horn of The Abyss objects, so not in oroginal game, and you can obtain Cyclops from them, i think up to 10 or 12.
Crypts are buildings where you fight some undead and get gold and sometimes even some items, depending on how strong the enemy is . In Imp Caches you fight imps and get gold and Mercury and dwarven treasuries are the same exept you fight dwarves for gold and crystal.
@@shadowpriest2574 I guess horn of the abyss expansion is needed too
thx!
What is break on 1 2 1
121 means month 1 week 2 day 1, break is a tough guard on the Jebus Cross template that separates your starting zone from the desert treasure zone.
Have a look at this video of you'd like to learn more: ruclips.net/video/G3PpTGeh0H0/видео.html
nah.. new players dont care about hives unless thought to care.
Where do I get that game?
get it at good old games, and the hota expansion is free just google horn of the abyss download
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some one here who have a girlfriend? if yes you are a legend^^ only single play this game 😂 thanks for the video mate
necropolis is easy as fuck
I don't have the unofficial addon
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yes pasca continue it the good way
Thanks will do
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What are hives and pickets? I'm a new player.