Mosiah 11-17 Part 1 • Dr. Ryan Sharp • May 13-19 • Come Follow Me
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- What do you do with prophets? Dr. Ryan Sharp teaches the parallels between Abinadi and modern-day prophets, who teach, warn, and encourage us to increase our ability to receive revelation, follow God's commands, and follow Jesus Christ and invites us to consider how we receive the words of prophets.
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TIMECODE
00:00 Part 1-Dr. Ryan Sharp
00:03 What to expect in this episode
01:21 Introduction of Dr. Ryan Sharp
03:20 Abinadi “fans the flame of testimony and courage”
05:20 President Packer’s “Therefore what?”
06:31 Mosiah 11:1-5,15 - Noah’s character and actions
07:35 Mosiah 11:20-26- Abinadi cries repentance (a chiasmus)
10:31 Mosiah 11:270-29 - Abinadi and Moses
12:45 Mosiah 11:22-27 - The Lord’s people
13:55 1 Kings 18 - “How long will ye halt between two opinions?”
14:34 What do you do with prophets?
20:05 President Nelson “Increase your capacity to receive personal revelation.”
24:43 “Not being ashamed of the prophets of Jesus Christ.”
27:16 President Nelson and revelation
29:44 “We must learn how to distinguish between the King Noahs and Abinadis”
33:53 Mosiah 12:1, 19 - Abinadi boldly returns
35:33 Mosiah 13:3-7 Abinadi is safe until he completes his message
37:41 Mosiah 17-18 Alma preaches Abinadi’s words
39:05 Abinadi and Alma’s influence
41:33 Did Abinadi know he was successful?
42:32 Mosiah 13:9 - Did Abinadi know he would die for his testimony?
43:09 Dr. Sharp shares a story of a single convert Neli
10:03:53 The macro and micro plan of salvation
01:05:57 End of Part 1 - Dr. Ryan Sharp
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Nels served in Airdrie, Alberta when I was 16. I would go out with him and his companion multiple times a week. They brought a passion and love for the gospel that has stayed with me and helped me on my mission.
Nele sounds like one of the coolest guys on the planet
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Ohhhhhh!!!! Nels Sasulu and his incredible family were our very best friends while we were able to serve a dental humanitarian mission in Samoa recently. How he touched our lives and continues to touch everyone’s lives around him. Greatest example of loving God and always putting the Lord at the forefront of all his decisions and life. His glow and spiritual power continue through him and his beautiful family. Nels….love ya man. Our lives will forever be changed from knowing you!!! ❤
Love you titensors legends of Samoa
Dr Sharp’s story on Mele had me crying. Tears of joy, the awe and the wonder of the gospel of Jesus Christ!
Same for me ❤️
Winter 1977, summer in the Southern Hemisphere; I was hitch hiking all over New Zealand staying in youth hostels; just before Christmas I was leaving either Gisborne or Napier and I met two missionaries, one from Roy, and one from Hooper Utah. I was living in Roy at the time and the one missionary and I were both from Roy 18th Ward; we talked briefly and I haven’t seen either one of them again. I always thought that was not a coincidence but an admonition to return to the Gospel; eventually I did. Thanks for the New Zealand stories!
I really want Nelly to know how touching his story is. I listened yesterday’s and can’t stop thinking of how his wonderful spirit has touched so many people and how in his dark moment he was able to reach out for help. Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing his story.
Neli Sasulu is in our ward. He's one of the best! We teach his two amazing sons in seminary. Hope to interview Neli soon to get his side of his conversion story. Subscribe to GATHER IN PODCASTS to be notified when it's available.
I no doubt Abinadi knew he was walking into his death. The courage and faith it took him to knowingly carry out the Lords work is so profound.
That missionary experience of knocking doors is my own parent’s experience. The third religious knock was our missionaries. My mother, being a bit overwhelmed by this point sent them away but said they could come back to speak to my father. They did and he listened. I’m so grateful the missionaries kept knocking! This was in Masterton NZ in 1963.
A great episode of personal conversion and being brave enough to share our testimonies.
Thank you! Once again I felt the spirit testifying strongly to me about President Nelson being a prophet of God.
The story of the dead area and Neli came just as I'm preparing to teach a sunday school lesson on family history this week, by special request. I'm not a called sunday school teacher. I've given classes and workshops on this subject before, though. But Dr Ryan Sharp's experience in that dead area, and Abinidi's story, connect to my late husband's story and mission, and to mine. He is a convert--the only one in his family--and he was a lively character. Where spirits live is not a "dead area" for missionaries. Very much alive... I have so many stories. Thanks for sharing this great one!
The power of the testimony of one! ❤ We all can be that one.
Wow that’s amazing, very inspiring story. They are our best family friends here in Melbs Australia..beautiful family indeed
Dr. Ryan Sharp, I, too, served in New Zealand North Mission from 71-73. We chewed some of the same dirt. The people there are awesome, like all missions, there are those who prepared. I had a very similar experience in Papakura. It's great to hear about your experience there.
I really like Ryan, too, Hank! What a great story teller! Thanks to all of your guests. I love them all ❤️
Such a wonderful missionary story! Thank you for sharing!! Nelly sounds like an awesome person! ❤🇨🇦
Loved this message - I cried hearing the story of Neli - i agree that your guest are "the best" but only because of The Book of Mormon. Earlier when you talked of how pictures should not be our inspiration of what someone looks like - I always had a mental picture of King Noah looking just Like King Henry the VIII . History does repeat itself, the "Pride Cycle", generations falling into "pits". Parents not holding up the banner of truth or planting the seeds. I love learning! and am so grateful for you, Hank & John and staff. Oh, By The Way, two of my friends family are serving in South Korea and I told them to look up your "market".. Blessings & love
This I’ve learned from the shadow of a tree (Abinadi)
My light will fall where I will never be.
Way to go! I'm from Auckland, NZ.
Me too
Yes Auckland represent. Woot woot. I grew up and onehunga and mangere the missionaries found me in mangere
Great episode, I was a missionary in NZ a year or so before you. Your stories brought back some fond memories of a truly magical place. Ofa Atu!
Thank you Nelly....you're the exemple of the lover of Christ. Thank you Elder Sharp Ryan
What a wonderful way to study the Book of Mormon.
What an incredible part I, with an inspirational story at the end. I want to be like Nelle!
Thank you sharing this wonderful story of god work, one micro plan among many in the great plan of God
This has impacted me very deeply, thanks so much from the bottom of my heart for all that you do for humanity 🙏💗
In a talk at church, Blanding Ut. 7th Ward.
I don’t remember the speaker, what is top was about stoning the profits. Which we do not do nowadays. But how often do we flick pebbles whenever they say something that rubs us the wrong way.
To answer the question: what will we do with the Prophet?
As for me and my house, we will fallow the Prophet😁
What an inspiring story about Neli! I listened to it a couple times this week while preparing my Sunday School lesson and decided to share it in my class today. Not only did this story remind me of many similar experiences I had during my mission in Guatemala, but you could tell how much it impacted these 14-15 year olds. How could you finish hearing a story like that and not feel estatic to serve a mission and be a positive example!!
I loved hearing this story of Neli! I also served in Calgary so I just loved hearing about his story, and seeing we had a connection!
Beautiful lesson❤❤
My daughter was in the same mission in NZ. Loved the story.
You always have the best elder Holland quotes.
Best episode I have watched so far
Amazing story!
That was absolutely amazing. I loved this episode
Enjoy listening here in New Zealand. My study of the BOM has increased along with my understanding with your Podcasts. Thank you.
Such a very sweet episode. Such spiritual men. Thank you, Hank, John and Ryan.
Wow amazing story. Thank you so much for you three brothers.
Love it!
The German word “Wachmanner” literally means security guards. I like to think of the prophets and apostles in that way.
❤️❤️❤️ this story!
I Love The Stories
Hank, do you remember the 2014 "18 Lives & The Book of Mormon" youth conference in Grand Jct, CO? That event was very impactful for my grandsons, one of whom, Danny Fairbanks, was chosen for the part of Abinidi. Because of the unusual, inspired way in which he was chosen, I never think of Abinidi without thinking about that life-changing even for him. Your part in that conference continues to have meaning in their lives. Thank you!
Great lesson definitely love our Prophet and all previous ones 🙏🙏💗
Love this thx!!! Is there a way to listen online besides RUclips? YT has too much pornography traps.
I have a Deep & abiding testimony of beloved prophets, however I struggle with the council regarding the jab.
I already want to be better because of Nelli. ❤️
Thinking of one person making a difference, I wonder if Dr. Sharp ever found out who Neli’s friend was who was on a mission at the time that they knocked on his door. They were the example to Neli that made him want to hear more. Beautiful story!
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The prophet Mormon saw the last days as if he were present. Mor 8:35 He addresses his reader and asks why we have transfigured the holy word of God v33 and declares that we have polluted the holy church of God v38. In order to wake us up to this situation (Ether 8:24) because he knew most of us would be blind and hard hearted, he cherry picked specific characters and events in his abridgment to serve as allegorical prophecy that would mean something to his readers in the last days.
In Mosiah 9, we see a parallel with Zeniff representing Joseph Smith and the King of the Lamanites with the Governor of Missouri. We also get a warning in Jacob 1:15 “under the reign of the SECOND king, began to grow hard in their hearts, and indulge themselves somewhat in wicked practices, such as like unto David of old desiring many wives and concubines, and also Solomon, his son.”
Mormon further emphasizes this in the next chapter 2:23-24 “This people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David, and Solomon his son. Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.”
Now here in Mosiah 11, Mormon gives us the example of another 2nd king, after Zeniff. How does he describe him?
- V1 “he did not walk in the ways of his father” [predecessor]
- V2 “For behold, he did not keep the commandments of God, but he did walk after the desires of his own heart. And he had many wives and concubines.”
- V2 “And he did cause his people to commit sin, and do that which was abominable”
- V3 “He taxed [tithed] them”
- V4 Used this money “to support himself and his wives and his concubines and also his priests and their wives and concubines”
- V4 “thus he had changed the affairs of the kingdom”
- V8 Built helping many elegant and spacious buildings
- V9 Built himself a spacious place
- V10 Built and adorned a temple
- V12-13 Built a tower on the hill north of the land
- V14 Place his heart upon riches
- V15 Built wine presses
- V16 Fought against the Lamanites in the local area
What is Mormon trying to tell his latter day reader. What connection is he trying to get them to see by describing this “2nd king” and the preceding chapters as mentioned above?
If it isn’t obvious, Mormon is warning us about ourselves and what we would do in our church history.
- Brigham had 56 wives and only 57 children. The wife to children ratio in polygamous relationships defeats the notion that it is to raise up a lot of children. If those polygamous wives had had their own husband it would have resulted in more children born into the covenant. The US Censes also shows that there were actually more men in Utah territory than women.
- Joseph Smith repeatedly taught polygamy was a form of adultery, but after Joseph died, Brigham had Joseph’s journals edited to change his words to support this new affair and had women many years later lie and say they were sealed to Joseph in an attempt to win the Temple Lot court case to prove they were the sole successors to Joseph’s church instead of the others that formed. See ruclips.net/video/eJtpqVAVPjA/видео.html for a start
- Brigham changed tithing and declared in History of the Church pg 257 “I want my support and living by the church hereafter, so that I can give my whole time to the business of the church” This is contrary to what Mormon tells us about King Benjamin. “And even I, myself, have labored with mine own hands that I might serve you, and that ye should not be laden with taxes” Mosiah 2:14 And witnessed again in Alma 30:32-33 “Thou knowest that we do not glut ourselves upon the labors of this people; for behold I have labored…And notwithstanding the many labors which I have performed in the church, I have never received so much as even one senine for my labor; neither has any of my brethren.”
- Plural marriage was not taught or practiced by Joseph Smith. See YT channels, 132 Problems, Rob Fotheringham and so when Brigham made plural/temple marriage the highest ordinance he fulfilled prophecy in Isaiah 24:5 and D&C 1:15 by changing the ordinances and breaking the everlasting covenant, which if you do a keyword search for that phrase you will come to see it is obviously not temple marriage.
- He cause his people to error by also participating in this practice which the Lord declared as an abomination in Jacob 2:24
- Brigham built the largest and richest homes in the west. The “Gardo house” was called the palace of the west and rivaled the interior of any temple.
- He introduced a modified freemasonry for the temple ceremony, which included their secret signs and words as well as the penalty oath of promising to slit your throat if you tell the details of the temple ceremony. The scriptures warn us of these very things in Hellman 6:22 “they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant” and Moses 5:29 “And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die”
- Ensign Peak has a tower on it and is located on the north hill of the SLC temple and served as a lookout for the surrounding area
- Brigham became the richest man in the west. How does the prophet become rich? He took from the tithes. He bragged about this. In today’s money it would be estimated around $7 million. In Malachi 3:8 the leaders have twisted this verse to apply to the people when it is actually Malachi leavening these charges agains the priests of his day. “Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.”
- He also built many wineries and bars in Utah
- And lastly he had the Timpangos Indians killed in a massacre in Utah county.
One can continue through the chapters to find even more prophetic parallels that Mormon is giving us. For a quick example see the next chapter, Mosiah 12:6 “and insects shall pester their land also, and devour their grain.” Remember the grasshoppers plague that came during the early pioneer’s time? That was a covenant curse because of the abominations the saints were living.
Thankyou for the List from Abinadi and his Influence. Do you have the List to Print?
And…where can i find more Info what Mormon all Write? You Said Mormon Write also Alma and Mosia? Or did i understood something wrong? Thankyou for your help with my questions
Abinadis Influence was for Alma sen. Alma jun. and…,,,,,,,to moroni
Nelly stud!
Could one of the 3 Nephites be be Nephi and further the influence of Abinadi into our day
I know the Smibert family and would have known Dr Sharp's mission president. Where does Nelly live now 💗🙏
If you're on the MP, he's across the bay from you 😊
Hi there everyone thank you for your comments this is Neli Sasulu aka Nelly if you prefer. I hear ya and just wanted to say hello I don’t know you personally but I already love you guys.
I appreciate you all listening into these 3 soldiers share my story with you. I am honored and truly blessed to finally start to come to know Jesus Christ cos I didn’t know I’m growing up. I’m thankful for 2 young missionaries in fact I always say I am eternally indebted to Ryan Sharp & Grant Bell for the choice they made to Serve to put everything in life on hold to Serve. AND THEY WERE LED BY GOD TO ME. They along with President and sister Smibert rescued me from a life and path that was leading down to Hell. How could I not why would not then put on the black badge and get on the front line and help bring others to come to know their Saviour and therefore unknowingly receive the countless blessing like I have since becoming a member and serving a mission 12 months later because I knew for myself the Gospel of Jesus Christ was restored and its sweeping the Earth. What other name under Heaven matters? Jesus Christ is coming soon that’s all that matters. I said to Dr one day I’ll come to Utah and share my version of the story there is so much that has happened since. Besides my beautiful wife Zoe and our 5 beautiful children those 4 names will be ushered into heaven when he returns & I will
Be there cheering for them applauding them - Ryan Sharp from Utah Grant Bell from Idaho and President Dirk & Kerry Smibert from Melbourne Australia blessed my life forever
Since reading about Gideon pursuing King Noah upon the tower i have not been able to view him as a fat drunk king. Usually people like that can't run up to the top of towers with a sword in hand to fight the best warrior. So anyway i came to the conclusion (in my mind anyway) that Noah was fit and charismatic and maybe even handsome. Yeah, it probably sounds nuts, but that's the way I would paint him if I could.
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We are seeing in our day, people who say the truth is anger. Even when the truth is taught in soberness, kindness, and in love. This is a recycled deception from the adversary.
For behold, did not Moses prophesy unto them concerning the coming of the Messiah, and that God should redeem his people? Yea, and even all the prophets who have prophesied ever since the world began-have they not spoken more or less concerning these things?
A few times this year, either you or your guests have said things like the Nephites didn't know about the coming of the Savior or the coming of a Messiah. But this verse shows that they did know and that they knew that all the prophets always spoke of the coming and mission of Christ. There are similar verses that are said by Nephi and Jacob and others up to this point in the Book of Mormon and there are more afterward. All the prophets, meaning since Adam, had been given the same knowledge and hope and joy.
ALMA 11
38 Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: IS THE SON OF GOD THE VERY ETERNAL FATHER?
39 And Amulek said unto him: Yea, HE IS THE VERY ETERNAL FATHER OF HEAVEN and of earth, and all things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last;
MOSIAH 16
15 TEACH THEM THAT redemption cometh through CHRIST the Lord, who IS THE VERY ETERNAL FATHER. Amen.
According to Merriam Dictionary, the text “VERY” MEANS TRUE OR REAL.
ETHER 3
12 And he answered: Yea, Lord, I know that thou speakest the truth, for thou art a God of truth, and canst not lie.
14 …Behold, I AM JESUS CHRIST. I AM THE FATHER AND THE SON…
3 NEPHI 1
14 Behold, I come unto my own, to fulfil all things which I have made known unto the children of men from the foundation of the world, and to do the will, both of the Father and of the Son-of THE FATHER BECAUSE OF ME, and of THE SON BECAUSE OF MY FLESH…
3 NEPHI 11
36 And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for THE FATHER, AND I, AND THE HOLY GHOST ARE ONE.
ALMA 11
44 …the bar of CHRIST THE SON, AND GOD THE FATHER, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHICH IS ONE ETERNAL GOD…
2 NEPHI 26
12 …Jesus is the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be CONVINCED ALSO THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE ETERNAL GOD;
13 And that he manifesteth himself unto all those who believe in him, by the power of the Holy Ghost..
ALMA 11
26 And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest THERE IS A TRUE AND LIVING GOD?
27 And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God.
28 Now Zeezrom said: IS THERE MORE THAN ONE GOD?
29 And he answered, NO.
2 NEPHI 15
7 For IF THERE BE NO CHRIST THERE BE NO GOD; and if there be no God we are not, for there could have been no creation. But THERE IS A GOD, AND HE IS CHRIST, and HE COME…
MOSIAH 15
1 …I would that YE SHOULD UNDERSTAND that GOD HIMSELF SHALL COME…
2 …BEING THE FATHER AND THE SON-
3 …BECOMING THE FATHER AND SON-
4 And they are ONE GOD, YEA, THE VERY ETERNAL FATHER of heaven and of earth.
5 And thus the FLESH becoming subject TO THE SPIRIT, or the SON TO THE FATHER, BEING ONE GOD…
TITLE PAGE OF THE BOOK OF MORMON
…Written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel; and also to Jew and Gentile- … to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE ETERNAL GOD…
Fantastic story! Thank you! 🥹 I want to share this with my brother who is about to serve a mission!