Why Did Winx Club Change So Much? Honest Thoughts on S8
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- It's here! Took longer than I thought it would to edit this one. I have mixed thoughts on season 8, especially after realizing why Rainbow decided to change target audiences. Here's to hoping the next season is halfway decent!
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Alfea Night
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Suspense Sting
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Speedix, Tracix, Zoomix
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Valtor's Theme
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Sad
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Broken
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Boss Fight
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The Girls of the Winx Club (Instrumental)
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Believix
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00:00 Intro
02:37 Synopsis
03:32 Things I didn't like
04:30 The villains
06:32 The specialists
08:47 Orion's design
09:39 Voice acting
11:14 Riven's return
15:09 The concerts
15:37 The instruments
18:22 Emojix
19:20 The Winx
21:46 The music
22:51 The fashion
24:25 The transformations
26:52 Magic
27:50 The Trix
30:18 Icy
32:08 A defense for Rainbow
36:14 Wrap up
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What did you think about season 8? Are you excited for the next season? And do you think Rainbow was justified in changing their target audience to keep up with the market? 🤔I'm curious what your thoughts are.
I honestly think that Winx Club has overstayed its welcome. It’s revival lasted much longer than the original series. Making a live-action adaptation for adults was just an insult to the now grown up fans of Winx Club, assuming that just because they are adult, they’re too old for cartoons. I think the Winx Club revival was one of the worst cartoon revivals of all time.
This might seem like a mediocre reboot that serves to cash in on nostalgia, destroying the reputation of the original creator’s work, but the unique problem for this revival is that it even fails at being that. Calling this just a cash grab to capitalize on nostalgia or a disgrace to the original creator would give this revival too much credit. In fact, this revival was planned by the creator himself, Iginio Straffi, and he was actually happy with the result. He enjoyed working with Nickelodeon, who was accused of making the storyline childish, while in fact, Straffi changed the target age demographic because of the decrease in older viewers and increase in younger viewers of animation. He even thought it was a good idea to have Brian Young destroy the diversity of the characters, make Alfea into a dark generic castle, turn the characters into complete jerks to each other, and include the typical clichés of a live-action adaptation for young adults. I’ve never seen a serialized cartoon whose storyline became this convoluted, I’ve never seen an animated cartoon whose target age demographic has been lowered that made the revival this terrible, I’ve never even seen a magical girl series that tried to lower the age demographic just to stay successful and keep the company from going bankrupt, I’ve never even expected this to be such an insult to the preschool audience or even be something that the original creator approves, I’ve never seen a cartoon revival that did so much irreversible damage to the IP’s reputation in this way before, I’ve never even seen an animated series whose creator was so ignorant of the fan base who criticized the revival, that they had the audacity to make a live action excuse for an adaptation that even the older fans of the cartoon never asked for that felt like an insult to them, and I have never even seen a cartoon revival that is all of these abysmal qualities combined! I would rather watch Teen Titans Go!, the PowerPuff Girls 2016 Reboot, Sailor Moon Crystal, the seasons as of 2010 of Spongebob and Pokémon, Jellystone!, VeggieTales in the House, I would even rather watch Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon than this abysmal excuse for a soft reboot!
What if people just stopped watching those most viewed videos that you’ve listed, so they can enjoy the videos with less views. Just because the views make the money, doesn’t mean that the videos themselves have content that is even worth that obscene amount of views. Popularity=/= quality. It would be better off if the companies just declared bankruptcy than to keep making more awful seasons of a serialized program that should’ve had a good conclusion just to get more views and money. An end to terror is preferable to a terror with no end. Maybe people viewing these new Winx Club episodes should check out Huntik:Secrets and Seekers or 44 Cats. There are cartoons from Rainbow that are overlooked and don’t get as much appreciation as they should, and they have such good quality that fans should check out. If the views and ratings mattered in the animation industry, so should the quality of the content. There are box office bombs that are actually masterpieces that should’ve had more money and deserved to be watched. Using the under 7 demographic as the primary demographic of animation would be a disgrace to the animation industry. have you seen the latest Oscar’s? They think that animation is a kid’s genre, rather than a medium that can be aimed at any age. Even some adults would find animation much more appealing to them than live-action. We’ve got Family Guy, Terkel in Trouble, Robot Chicken, South Park, Sausage Party, and Drawn Together. All of those are notable examples of cartoons that are almost exclusively to adults.
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season 8 was definitely ALL OVER the place. I just watched the season for the heck of it. I'm not 100% invested in the series anymore. and after hearing how awfully miscast the season was. I'm very glad that I saw it in the original italian version over english for most of the episodes.
My biggest nit pick is the whitewashing. Flora is so much paler than her og design, and don’t even get me started on Aisha. I can also see that Musa has been whitewashed as well.
everyone and everything is paler. bloom and techna's hair for example. the whole palette of the show is way more pastel
@@whitemoonwolf13 doesn’t justify anything
@@Whitemenhavelittledicks but it kinda does? if the entire show is three shades lighter everything is lighter, skin colour included. don't know if you noticed but the other girls are different shades as well. it's just another example of how watered down the show has become that they went from bolds to pastels.
@@whitemoonwolf13 You can work with pastels wouldn’t whitewashing characters. Again, not an excuse.
@@Whitemenhavelittledicks did you mean without? or that it wouldn't? because you're kinda right and kinda wrong. you can work with pastels without washing out a character if the character itself wasn't done in a bold colour style or if you use the cooler pastel palettes. the og colour style of winx was very bold very warm colours. what they did for season eight was lighten all the colours but keep the warm shades. so yeah, everything ends up looking washed out, the colours have no punch and the characters and backgrounds kind of run together. what they should have done was go with cooler colours which would keep everyone closer to their bolder counterparts but it would significantly darken the show and since season eight seems to be digging real deep into the kid demographic there was no way they were going to pass up the brighter colours for a more authentic palette.
i understand their reasoning. but it's still dumb.
I really wish companies would stop dumbing down cartoons we grew up with! Adults can watch cartoons as well not just kids, just cause we've grown up doesn't mean we still don't love the shows we grew up with and no longer watch cartoons
Exactly I still don’t like how they did Enchantix & Sirenix🙄
Maybe people like you are still interested, but there are other people who lost interest in Winx Club.
Don't you think that maybe shows like Winx Club were dumbed down because many of the people who watched the first seasons lost interest in Winx Club, and thus, they needed to appeal to younger generations?.
Iginio Straffi said it himself, they changed the target audience because they had to do that. Fortunately, the reboot will be aimed to the original target audience from the classic era of Winx Club.
Thank you!!
@@eduardoaguilar3421 So that’s what makes Winx Club the definition of a hopeless magical girl cartoon.
There has never been a cartoon that has been dumbed down to a younger age demographic like this one. TTG, the PPG and Ben 10 2016 reboots, and Thundercats Roar don’t count. Those are still different shows from their original counterparts compared to Winx Club.
I like that Icy is a princess, because with the overabundance of fairy princesses it's refreshing to get a witch princess finally
True... Until now we never saw any royal witches
Same! NGL I actually hated it at first considering Icy is probably the most iconic villain aside Baltor, considering she was literally made to be the most powerful witch in Winx Club. And I just hated how it seemed they were trying to “victimize” her by creating this new backstory clearly divorced from the Trix’s original backstory as the descendants of the Ancestresses, the witches that destroyed Sparx/Domino.
But ignoring their canon story, Icy actually used to be one of my favorite characters when I was younger, so I was actually kinda intrigued that she was a princess (maybe even a fairy) who lost her realm to a shaman witch. And Sapphire is so adorable as a little arctic fox, my only complaint is why did Icy abandon her on Diamond instead of taking her with her to Cloud Tower or somewhere close so she didn’t starve to death? And no “magic sustaining her” doesn’t count, considering at least when Sparx died, its citizens were turned to stone (despite it never says how the entirety of Sparx got sucked into Obsidian when I thought it was only Oritel and Miriam?? And even Faragonda says “Anyone who enters Obsidian is lost forever” I get how powerful and willed her parents were considering they wielded the Dragon Flame too, but how did their subjects resist being lost in Obsidian?
But here's the thing,they could've made an entirely new character for a witch princess concept, instead of retconning Icy into being a sympathetic/tragic villain when there was no indication,even in S5 onward,that there was more to her than being power hungry. And if you want to humanize Icy,a better way would've been to actually show how she and the other Trix meet and formed a friendship.
@@infinitedreamer9359 agreed
@@gelmanbegum9934 I'm not against the idea of a witch princess,whether she's an ally/hero or villain. But, I dislike that the writers do a huge asspull for Icy to have that backstory (which goes against her entire character).If were writing,I'd want a witch princess to be either a hero or ally,since WC is lacking in prominent good witches that aren't secondary characters or turned into fairies. Selina(even if every aspect of her character was badly written) could've perfect choice for that,but they turned her into another fairy. Another wasted opportunity to add to the pile in S5.
I honestly cried seeing the new soft reboot and the new art style. Season 8 killed my high expectations, the last 2 seasons really disappointed me some of the storylines were so disappointing.
You're definitely not alone. The last 2 seasons were really hard for me to sit through. I don't know if the new season coming will be any better, but we can always hope!
@@RosieVisionTV Yes it was very hard to watch through, I still can't get over the fact they've changed the art style I absolutely hate it. They were meant to graduate and become teachers, not go back to being 16 again??? Wtf! I pray they change the art style back to normal, and at least give a decent storyline. Please Lord anything better then "star yummies"!!
Changing the art style alone does not necessarily make the season bad. What about the story and the characters?
Same
S8 is still miles better than all Nickelodeon seasons
Kids deserve better content. You can make a show targeted for kids that's also able to he enjoyed by adults.
Look at My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. It was made for kids, and made lots of money, but the writers made sure that the adults watching with the kids could enjoy it too.
Kids deserve shows with good writing.
EXACTLYYYY, and what sucks is when they completely change it on the 8th SEASON. Like if you’re gonna do that might as well start a completely new gen instead of trying to change the og winx. I would’ve rather seen that then this.
Not just that, Phineas and Ferb is also a perfect example of a cartoon that appeals to kids and adults. Some of the P&F jokes are mostly adult humor (the creators previously worked on Family Guy so that kinda make sense lol), it was made for kids yet the creators knew someway to appeal to adults that both different target audience can enjoy together. Phineas & Ferb and Winx Club were both my childhood, i can still enjoy Phineas & Ferb in my adult age now, Winx Club however......
Yeah.
I wish they could’ve created the next/ new generation of the winx like their cousins going to high school and experiencing these things while closing the chapter of the OG winx - people who have watched winx club from the start deserve to see what happens to them at the end whether it’s a cliffhanger or “happily ever after “. I understand they are aiming for younger audience now and still sticking to script e.g I like how they brought riven back but it felt weird 😂
While I can understand why they did it,I feel like they did it in the wrong way. The soft reboot option is half-assed and only makes it harder to differentiate between S1-4 and S5 onwards. The best way they could've made this shift is if they had ended the show at S4 and SotLK,since the latter was the original intended end of the WC's stories and Bloom's Myth Arc and the former makes a good epilogue.Then,after that hard reboot the series and make it clear this series is for a younger crowd. That way,older fans don't have see their favorite characters suddenly regress randomly or the lore being broken/ignored and Rainbow can have their younger demo show. A win win.
I also like the WC Next Gen idea and considering they're going for a younger crowd that wouldn't have gotten attached to the characters,it could've worked. With a new cast,you wouldn't have to reference things and you get the younger kids attached to this new set of characters,given it's done right. Just have the new cast be at Alfea and there you go. I would rather not have any of the new cast be related to the OG cast. Maybe one of them could be,but I would much rather have the new characters be good on their own,than just banking on them being related.And Roxy's character could've easily had a role by having her be in the same year or an upperclassman to the new cast. The problem is that that I think Rainbow thought it was too risky to do and didn't want to let go of milking the WC cast.Why bank on something new,when you could just milk what's already proven?
@@infinitedreamer9359 You're right save for the end of Winx Club's stories, to be exact, Winx Club: Magical Adventure was the original intended end of Winx Club's stories.
@@eduardoaguilar3421 No? Magical Adventure came after Rainbow decided to milk the series, SotLK was Straffi's intended definitive end for both the Winx Club girls individual stories and Bloom's overarching plot of finding out her origins. The WInx Club all graduated and became Guardian Fairies,Bloom found out her origins and saved both her home planet and her parents and Sky proposes to her. Pretty much all of the important plot arcs are wrapped up in that movie and that's important. Magical Adventure always felt like just a self-contained adventure for the Winx. Nothing important for the characters happens or is resolved in the movie. So no SotLK is the defintive end.
@@infinitedreamer9359 Winx Club: Magical Adventure was written just after the first movie and is a direct follow up of Winx Club: The Secret of the Lost Kingdom, which continues where the previous movie left, like the Trix and the Ancestral Witches being defeated for good.
Winx Club: The Secret of the Lost Kingdom ends in a "to be continued" way since we see the Trix and the Ancestral Witches talking about their plans before the credits start rolling.
"Nothing important for the characters happens or is resolved in the movie."
The Trix and the Ancestral Witches are defeated for good.
i’ve been a fan since 2005/2006 and it’s so disappointing to see how much this show has gone downhill. it’ll always remain one of my favorite childhood cartoons but as each season came out over the years, i could recognize a decline in the show’s quality. it annoys me that there is no consistency within the storyline… they are never going to bring back the og quality (artstyle, voice actors, concepts) in the way we want so i really want them to end the show
Am I the only one that feels like the season truly began once Trix showed up?
No, I agree 100%
Yeah me too.
This review was honestly a hidden gem. I don't know how it got onto my recommended, but I'm happy it did. Underrated as all hell
32:50 This just justifies the “cartoons are for kids” stereotype even further, right? Adult cartoons deserved better than this.
I Think there should be a cartoon, poking fun of the shows that are making the most money because the most views are preschoolers, or the show with the most views are for preschoolers. Don’t you think?
Some people think that just because it’s an animated cartoon, that it’s just for children. This only gets supported by the number of views the kid’s cartoon gets and how much money it makes just from those viewers.
And have you seen the Oscars 2022? They say that animation is a medium for “kids” to watch.
Additionally, they did make a darker live-action series.
@@austinreed7343 The video already said so.
honestly what i hated the most about season 8 was probably the specialists. they were the hottest creations ever and if all men looked like they did and acted the way they did... ugh all men would be perfect (Imo) but in s8 they were turned into masc lesbians. and i will agree that in some shots they ended up looking 16 rather than 10 but even then they still had somewhat realistic bodies to what teen boys stereotypically have at that age (16)
The boys literally looked like children who just started puberty lol. They're horrifying to look at
Hey hey dont come for my beautiful masc lesbians. They specialists look like they're in middle school
@@andromeda7758 LMAO
Unrelated but seeing "Mia and Me" mentioned here, even if briefly, was a nice surprise.
It's a very good show (the first 2 season at least) and the fact that it kinda faded into obscurity is a shame.
Yeah it's a shame it's not talked about more. I discovered it only a few years ago, but I really fell in love with the first 2 seasons. I was surprised by how well balanced the live action and animation parts were. Sadly it was kind of downhill from there, but I think it still deserves more recognition.
We’ve had more cartoons gearing towards younger audiences throughout the 2010’s but never was there a cartoon whose age demographic has changed from its preteen-teenage demographic to preschoolers.
I think people missed the overall issue with Musa and Riven. Riven always tried and Musa always expected, she didn't support him (other than maybe s2) or go out of her way to do something for him. Does Riven even have parents? Musa's mom became her personality trait and we saw that repeated but nothing about Riven. We didn't even see Musa show interest in his life outside of her. Riven got hate from fans while Musa got pitty when they didn't really deserve that.
Riven (in some book) was an orphan, but at first he lived with his mother until he was abandoned( Goodle)
I will get hate for this but I actually like Rivusa together so bye haters
Same. I HATE how nearly every stinking story is about how much Musa misses her mother or cringy relationship drama with Riven. I understand her mother holds a very special place in her heart, but she never shuts up about how much she misses her. In S3 it perfectly showed how she was in a way finally able to move past her death, understanding not even the most powerful magic can bring her back, but she is always watching over her and in her heart.
As far as Riven goes, I feel S4 is definitely when they should’ve ended things for good, considering how jealous and insecure he was about her friendships with Andy and his band and especially with Jason, who handled the situation maturely and was a genuine good guy who simply didn’t like Musa that way. I really love S5 when he wrote that song, but the cheating with another music fairy plot was dumb, considering Musa doesn’t actually confront him about it. After the nightmare of S6, I really wish they sat down and talked about their feelings, but in the end ultimately agree to just be friends and stop trying to force a problematic relationship to work. I don’t get why Musa can’t just be single or just be friends and understanding Riven still deeply cares about her, but isn’t the one meant for her
I think you are one of the few people who analyze a bit of Musa's story, and in my opinion I think it is much more interesting than Bloom or Aisha's story.
Most girls have a problem that they have to solve and they solve it by having a happy ending. Bloom manages to find her sister and find out where she comes from, Aisha solves the problem with her kingdom and more, but Musa is never happy since she cannot overcome the loss of her mother and the damage her toxic relationship with Riven did to her.
While the girls are happy, Musa is always sad. I think that if this series were a series for adults, Musa would have depression because that is really what she represents and I really like that idea because she is very different from her friends and from what the series shows its viewers, but of course, being a children's series, they have to hide Musa's story a lot because it is somewhat complex to understand
"Younger audiences", they say? I fear nowadays there are few kids, and plenty of us have grown up.
I really liked the old Winx, I really don't like the new Winx because they look like children especially the specialists. I think that rainbow could've made season 8 more interesting without changing the characters designs.
I love when people talk about Winx, shows that old school fans still care. Great vid!
Not gonna lie, I agree with you it was actually good to see the Trix brought back, I loved Icys backstory. I really loved seeing all the old transformations back, I really missed Sirenx. I still hate the new art style though, it seriously annoys me.
Backstory was just an asspull at literally the last 3 eps. Can we say rushed?
The tone of the revival of Winx Club was so juvenile it made the original 4 seasons of the show look like Sausage Party in comparison.
Damn 💀
2 things that make me unable to give season 8 a chance, the way they handled Valtor and Enchantix. From an actual threat to a boring cliche threat with the downgrade version of a legendary iconic transformation into a colour's mix mess with extra layer for the clothing oh and pink is a must now. (It's a shame that they can't used the original Enchantix song because of copyright and had to go with the movie version instead)
Even so, I still have hope for season 9 (or should we called it a reboot?), I hope they'll finally be able to redeem themselves into making Winx great again, that little last glimpse of hope...
I am glad Rivusa❤ Got back together in season 8 that the only reason I watch season 8 lol
Honestly, that is one, if not the only thing, that made me happy about season 8, it would have been more pleasant to see with the OG art style tho...Because I mean, I could give the new seasons a chance but I just can't bare with the new art style that makes them look like pre-teens instead of grown, young adults.
Uh no. I respect your opinion but I personally was never a fan of Musa and Riven. Riven was always my least favorite guy/character in the show as a kid, but watching it as an adult and the other seasons (specifically 4 and 5, I grew up on 4Kids) I personally wished they broke up in S4. I completely understand why he got nervous about Musa pursuing a career that might limit their time together and she’s been unintentionally ignoring him with all of her duties to the mission and stuff. But it literally takes them forever to FINALLY sort through everything. And in S6, I seriously don’t understand why Riven’s character development was shattered and he basically acted like he was in S1, a judgmental prick who’s constantly ignoring Musa for no reason and is obsessed with training and being a better fighter. It NEVER explains why he got so insecure all of a sudden or why he even forced Sky into a duel for the position of leader of the specialists. Yes its very nice to see him feel awful for how ignorant he was towards Musa and admitting he needs a break from their relationship because he has personal issues he needs some time alone to deal with. When Musa said “And it’s clear now that we’re not meant to be together” it always gave me the impression she meant “I’ve given up on the idea of marriage or a more serious relationship, we’re ending things for good this time. No more trying to force a toxic relationship to work.” And while its cool to see Riven has truly improved and stuff, I think they should’ve stayed separated and simply agreed to be just friends and find other people better suited for them. I don’t understand why we can’t have a couple where they break up and manage to stay good friends while falling in love with another person
Who killed the Winx Club revival
Suspects:
- Iginio Straffi
- Viacom(Paramount Global)
- Nickelodeon Executives
- [ ]
- Rainbow S.p.A
- American Writers
- [ ] Janice Burgess
- [ ] Sascha Paladino
- [ ] Adam Peltzman
- [ ] Carin Greenburg
- Fans of the show
- Streaming Cartoons for ages 6 and under
- [ ] Cocomelon
Clues
- Straffi requested minor changes to the script to make the dialogue more suitable for younger audiences.
- Nickelodeon moves some cartoons to NickToons, which requires extra payment for some cable providers, Dish Network requiring the highest priced package, affecting the shows ratings. Ex: Harvey Beaks, Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and Welcome to the Wayne
- Straffi set the age demographic to ages 4-8 because “the animation audience has skewed younger”
- Straffi can’t monitor Nickelodeon 24/7, and Nickelodeon used the soft reboot for lazy plot development, profit from a successful franchise, and demoted Stella into nothing but a fashion freak.
- Some shows aiming at the under 7 age demographic on streaming services get more views and make more money than those of teens or adults.
Cocomelon is the killer! Proof: trust me pal
Not Helia having an overdrawn bulge and his weapon being a whip I- the pose too! I have to laugh cause wtf?!
Especially when they changed the style to be more for kids, his weapons could've been holographic/lazer fans (Full Kitana mode or Yumi from Code Lyoko style), would've been better than the whip imo.
Nah, Helia’s ponytail needs to comeback lol
Giving Icy backstory and Valtor returning back are retcons and don’t make sense- Bloom killed Valtor with her fairy dust- and season 8 retcons it with excuse- “ooh Valtors essence was still present” - when you know fairy dust is supposed to be powerful with Enchantix- and Icy backstory ruins her character and retcons her being descendant of ancient witches and makes her hypocrite since she went after the Bloom who has lost her kingdom- also new childish artstyle and whitewashing in season 8 - that makes season 8 the worst.
I hope season 9 fixes everything, but thats only my hope and its close to zilch/zero/nothing.
Seasons 5-8 are not mature they are childish and kiddified and I hate nickelodeon for that- nickelodeon completely stripped away mature themes.
Season 9 doesn't need to fix anything, because Season 8 already did! There wasn't a season like this for a long time! Season where fairies are no longer childish and where plot is mature and where transformation sequences are not lazy and horrible!
About Valtor, it totally makes sense, Valtor was never killed, Bloom just shut down his dragon flame, but if you remember the story from Season 3, Valtor was not just made of dragon flame, but also was made of darkness, so he lost his dragon flame, but not his darkness, which means his essence is still here and then Obscurum fullfiled ex-flame's part of his essence with cosmic power!
And Icy's backstory didn't destroy the fact that she is descendant of ancient witches because she could have still been a great great great great... daughter of ancient witch!
And also Trix were never meant to be sisters so S8 didn't destroy that either
So in conclusion, S8 can't be the worst, because just look at that Nickelodeon disaster! Nickelodeon destroyed Winx Club and everything we loved! And Rai tried to do everything they can to bring it back to old feel and you can totally feel the old Winx - there wasn't : Magic Winx Cosmix or Bloom, Fairy of the dragon flame and Winx again had their own style of clothes, each fairy had different clothes depending on her own style and personality, clothes were not just the same with different colors like in seasons 5-7
So S8 is plotwise, transformationwise, qualitywise better than Nickelodeon seasons
@MeduZsa Zsa Um😐 season 8 whitewashed Aisha, Flora, Musa and Stella and uses new ugly artstyle. Cosmix is bit boring transformation because they censor legs. Season 8 is the worst, also I cannot feel anything for Icy because now in season 8 she is made hypocrite because she attacked Bloom also the girl who lost her kingdom- I don’ t feel anything for Icy. If there was atleast small hint of Icy backstory in original seasons 1-3 it would be good but not still not that great- as I like Icy as a villain.
Also yall need to acknowledge that season 8 WHITEWASHED Aisha, Flora, Musa and Stella- thats main reason it sucks- there is less diversity in season 8 because whitewashing- now almost all of the Winx are white in season 8.
I will never stan season 8, even season 7 that is not something great didn’t whitewashed and didn’t used ugly new artstyle, that why season 8 is worser than 7 in that aspect.
Season 8 also massacred Enchantix.
@@Sungod77777 you know, not everything is in whitewashing, you can't judge Season by that, if you judge it by normal things, like plots, transformation sequences, clothes, anything else, it's objectively better than all Nickelodeon seasons together
@MeduZsa Zsa sure, Jan.
Original Winx Club was also about diversity- Aisha is black, Flora is brown hispanic, Musa is asian and Stella could be white passing POC with slight tan.
And for season 8 to remove all that beautiful skintone diversity is just ew. In season 8 they made Aisha lightskin, Flora a white girl, Musa a white girl and they removed Stella’s slight tan- now almost all of Winx are white in season 8 which is disgusting- rainbow should apologize for this and stop whitewashing POC characters.
Just imagine how darkskin girls growing up with Winx Club will feel when they found out they whitewashed/lightened Aisha skin in season 8. I don’t care about “its palette, lighting” excuse because that excuse doesn’t work- season 8 is blatant whitewashing.
@@Sungod77777 flora is white idk wtf y'all are talking about she just had a tan
So for Musa and Bloom singing, does anyone notice in season 4, they’re both voice by the same singer: Elisa Rosselli? That makes the characters sound like they’re just lip syncing to the song, rather than sing the songs themselves.
Didnt even dare try after seeying those specialists
I don't blame you. If I wasn't planning on making a video I'm honestly not sure if I ever would have gotten around to watching it.
@2:33 Oh, Rainbow wasn't trying to cater to older fans. They were, without a doubt aiming for a younger audience like elementary schoolers. The storytelling is completely watered down from the first 4 seasons of Winx Club and the art style was purposely done to draw away older fans. I watched a few episodes for this season, but stopped watching it like I did with Season 7 cause the story was severely immature. I should've stopped watching at Season 6 tbh, but I was braindead back then.
So, you just made me want to give the season a chance. Quite sincerely I wasn't able to complete the animal season without making huge skips so I don't even remember well that season, which was a bummer because I really liked how the butterfly inspired transformation looked and founded the magical animals ideas quite likable, but story wise... I just couldn't, and after that, seeing the huge changes in this season animation, I couldn't really bring myself to see it. With these video I think I'm ready to give it a chance.
Aw glad to hear that. Good luck then! Let me know how it goes. Hopefully it's not too bad?
It is perspective, my love. If they changed their perspective and produced a way more mature version of this show, targeting young adults and adults, like Castlevania or Invincible or Vox Machina, trust me, they would kill it on ANY platforms. Because their target audience would be the same people who watched the Winx Club when they were younger, nostalgia would bring people back, and this drastic change of tone would also keep them engaged. Because we are not kids anymore, we can handle seeing blood, death, dark magic and such... I wouldn't mind if one or two people of the main cast died for example, I wouldn't mind if they touched on sensitive topics like politics, sex, gender, war, violence, abuse... Eg. Trix's back story could alternatively be explained with abusive parents, even worse grandparents, messed up lineage, etc... They could finally say that Riven suffers from Bipolar personality disorder or something that fits him better (I'm not a psychologist, I just remember his mood swings and unbalanced behavior which seem kinda fitting? i mean no offense to anyone with my ignorance) and they could rebound with Musa after she learns about his issues and maybe decides to be more tolerant towards him.... You see, the sky is the limit if they changed their perspective. If they did this, we wouldn't have to endure the bane called Winx Saga, it would be totally unnecessary.
World of winx. That, was seriously amazing.
bipolar personality disorder doesn't exist. bipolar is a mood disorder, and it isn't just moos swings
I actually liked the homages/blatant ripoffs of the sailormoon henshins, lol. When I saw Bloom do the hand thing from Moon Crystal Power Make Up in R, and Stella do the other hand thing from Moon Prism Power Make Up in Crystal, I was like “oh wow I understand that reference” 😂 I do like the original transformations, but just little moments like that almost make me feel like Bloom showed the girls Sailormoon and they all wanted to incorporate their favorite parts
Sailor Moon gets a lot of inspiration from Magical Girl/Shojo animes from the 70s and 80s though…. Picasso says bad artists copy, GREAT artists steal.
Your voice is so nice and sweet, thank you for the video and the work done!
kinda late but i just wanna thank you for putting the pc game music in this video since a wave of nostalgia hit me AAAAAA
Bass is an underrated instrument like drums. I agree.
What’s wrong with falling under? What’s the downside of that? Even a business should sacrifice their greed of money, so that the quality of the shows comes first.
I came for the Winx rant, I stayed for the bass player advocacy. Justice for the four strings! And yes, the instrument suits Flora very well.
The artstyle shift + whites washing of over half the cast makes me so upset especially since not to many cartoons from when I was younger had good representation like winx did but now they are taking it away 😞
Exactly.
Bloom isn't all that nice, people seem to overlook her negative and creepy actions. She started out ok but over time had negative character development
Yeah and the fact that ppl don't notice it and somehow she's braggy
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the white-washing of Aisha, Flora, and Musa
That was indeed noteworthy in terms of design choices I wish they changed. I personally didn't want to go over it in this video since its already been talked about so much within the Winx fandom, and I wanted to bring up new topics. In my opinion I think Fate: The Winx Saga was way more egregious in terms of changing the characters considering it literally changed the races of the main cast.
Season 8 and WoW didn't quite go that far, but I agree that the Winx don't look themselves anymore. I hope that will be changed in the future. Especially since I think the art style has been suffering pretty bad from same face syndrome for quite awhile in general.
And Stella Stella is Also Whitewasch
@@MasterBritannicJess Oh yeah I keep forgetting Stella had tan skin back then... Wow, that is 4/6 Winx members to be white washed or have their skin lightened... That's kinda sad
@@lexis_trash4480 Flora season 8 skin tone is Stella Tan Skin and Aisha season 8 skin is Flora Tan Skin why They Whitewasch is a reason
@@lexis_trash4480 Musa is Whitewasch she dont look like Asian girl
The new winx clubs eyes kinda creep me out. They look like porcelain dolls or American girl dolls. And don't get me started on the white washing!
Yeah I can see the doll thing. Especially with their rounded faces. Plus, I don't think they blinked as often as they should have if I remember correctly.
I feel like Season 9 is going to do it's justice after all of this, they are taking longer for writing and animation and they promise to deliver what it needs to be delivered, also the target audience is the same as the old seasons again!
I really hope so. It'd make me super happy if they can actually deliver. Fingers crossed!
loved briefly seeing princess tutu in there
Now knowing why the seasons are so childish now actually makes sense so I can't really blame Rainbow and Straffi for that. The whole Icy backstory is nice but it doesn't make any sense to me because she, Darcy, and Stormy are descendants of the Ancestral Witches who are sisters which would make them related. Also, this isn't Winx Club related but it's really cool that you've seen Mia and Me I don't really know people who've watched the show.
I still think it was a bad decision but I understand. What I don't understand is why they not only whitewashed Layla, Flora, and Musa but lightened everyone's skin colors, like how was Straffi fine with this especially since Flora's his favorite character.
Yeah I didn't really think that far when it came to the Trix. It does add a lot of confusion. As for Mia and Me, I ended up checking it out since I loved Winx so much and they're both made by Rainbow. I really loved the first season! The quality dipped each season for me personally, but I still really like the show as a whole.
@@RosieVisionTV Ya I watched season 1 of Mia and Me when I was younger, the stoeyline was really good and pretty unique in my opinion, but I agree that the animation changing was weird I got used to it but I prefer season 1s.
Come on! They shouldn’t try to gradually lower the age demographic and make the show so over the top childish just because the animation audience has skewed younger. That just adds salt to the open wound for the “cartoons are for children” stereotype and no other cartoon does that. It’s not difficult to get a 10-year old to watch cartoons, because that just treats them like a total idiot who treats animation as a childish genre rather than a medium to make movies or tv shows.
@@robinsordahl8947 I know I'm just saying I get why he decided that, bad decision but hey maybe he learned.
@@monaalona4744 A much better question to figure out the situation would be “how did it end up being this bad?” This would require some thorough research into the production and development of the revival.
24:42 I actually loved that they can use every transformation
4:04 - ahem, maybe I can answer that question on why they're back at school without screwing up the continuity, it has been confirmed in a book from season 5 when the winx got harmonix that the Winx Club girls are taking post-graduate courses at Alfea.
That would make sense. Too bad it wasn't mentioned in the original series. Do you know what this book is called? I'm curious since I haven't really seen much outside the tv series.
Problem with that is that we're never shown what they're learning or why that justifies them being stuck at school again.
Iginio Straffi: This as gone far enough!
Fans of Winx Club: You already rebooted the show to younger audiences and they’ve already done their adventures, just leave them alone and go do your other projects.
Iginio Straffi: I can’t do that! I have ideas to make Season 9. The show is my ticket to success.
Fans of Winx Club: But the writing, character depth, and plots don’t make sense, besides being childish. I’ve heard that the plot elements about your show were generic and far from creative, they don’t even respect the original series, which actually had original characters and reasons for them to exist.
Iginio Straffi: Too bad, this is my show, my rules. I wanted this show to be a success, so I had to come up with something to commemorate the 10th and 15th anniversaries. Plus, it’s for the children that I had to do this.
Fans of Winx Club: It doesn’t have to be this way. You don’t have to force the writers to rush on writing each episode of your show, and try to pander to young audiences with such childishness, it’ll even make less sense for the show.
Iginio Straffi: I had no choice, we still needed more money and more viewers. Having a good story and serious characters aren’t even enough anymore. The cartoon audience was skewing much younger, so we can’t even get enough viewers with the original demographic.
Winx Club Fans: Listen, We understand you needed a second chance for success in America and I know the animation audience might have gone younger, but overworking very busy writers of Nickelodeon to work on the revival, relying on Hollywood voice actors that put you in serious debt, having to become a major sellout to girls, and saturating the show with pure glamor and cuteness? This is just nonsense. You can’t keep doing his to your show.
Iginio Straffi: You don’t understand, the most viewed animated programs out there are for preschoolers and elementary school children, so they make the most money, This is my company, so I need to make sure it doesn’t go bankrupt or out of business, so I had to aim Winx Club at younger audiences! I can do whatever I want with my show, I created it, so don’t you dare tell me what to do! You know what, I actually want more and I will make more songs, more transformations, more episodes, sell more toys, and even earn more money. I will reboot the show a thousand times and will get more success and power and I will make my people work on the episodes all day long without rest and set a quick deadline if necessary before I let this entire franchise and company die, and I will silence anyone WHO GETS IN MY WAY!!!!!
26:07 wait, how do you mean? Each fairy is different, has her own style and her own way of creating dress, shoes, everything....
It's so much better than all Nickelodeon transformation sequences together!
I think you're right, it isn't the least creative one looking back. What I was trying to say is it wasn't as exciting in terms of imagery compared to Enchantix and Believix. Like for example Musa's wings being formed from a music staff, Bloom being circled by a dragon, the water droplets for Aisha, etc.
@@RosieVisionTV yeah, I know Enchantix and Believix are something best ever!
I love both Winx and princess tutu. So underrated.
16:17 Ahh I wasn't expecting a little dongmyeong cameo in this 🥰 he's so cute
to me, the fashion as a person who knows quite a bit abt it, was really..well..winx? but in a really really cheap not well enough thought about way
Don’t forget that in the first 4 seasons the outfits were literally designed by fashion designers…
@@valtorswife Yess, and that's how it's supposed to be, the style was maintained, the level of design and the quality just went down
@@VALENSlO I wish we had more than what they gave us…
i haven't watched this season yet and currently being at season 7, I was starting to really give up on watching season 8, but this video changed my mind
Great video!
Thank you! This video in particular took a very long time to put together. So glad you enjoyed it!
I discovered Flora played bass earlier today and I thought the same, that suits her perfectly.
what about ranking their VA's? I've seen a few videos on it and i think this along with the songs for transformations, would be so interesting!
That could be a fun idea! My video idea list is kinda scrambled right now, but I'll make not of it at least.
@@RosieVisionTV no worries, just an idea 😊
After years of being a fan of winx club once I found out about season 8 I judged it. Today I watched some of the episodes and honestly I like it and maybe more then the old version. The art style is cute and I love the clothing. and I like that the specialist have jets now. HOWEVER, I don’t like how they changed the skin colors.
I liked season 8 too! The artstyle is absolutely terrible, the clothing is okay for the most part since the Winx always get new clothes for a new season. The changing skin color thing is distracting and bad. I just wish it was animated in the old artstyle since I saw some cosmix reanimations with the old artstyle and it looked way better. Plus, the moves in the transformation was not that good and the enchantix redesign is way too ugly, including sirenix, other people like the sirenix redesign but DEFINITELY NOT ME. The cosmix song is sooo fine. Crystal sirenix is pretty for some part. Especially in the old artstyle. Trix and Valtor, including the lumens or what they are look acceptable in the new artstyle. Thank god season 9 looks better, as of artstyle and character design. Too bad that season 9 is a total reboot I guess :(
I disagree with this idea that cartoons need to 'skew younger' to make money. If anything I feel like animated shows appeal to older audiences like never before. At any rate this was a strategy that failed for Rainbow. Season 8 did not attract audiences back to the brand like Rainbow hoped it would.
No, but its a very negative misconception companies LOVE using “cartoons are for kids!” Despite the first cartoons ever made were actually made for adults, specifically men (there’s a reason why Betty Boop is designed the way she is)
Say with Disney’s newest movie Wish. It had a very different story in the original draft and truly felt like it could be the next Moana. Star himself was fully intended to be a shapeshifter and love interest for Asha, who was originally a princess in the story. But sadly, Star was changed to be a marketing ploy to sell toys, Disney straight up didn’t care about writing a good story. All they cared about was selling toys and making it appropriate for kids. Aside Encanto, I feel a lot of their more recent movies don’t go as dark as movies from say the Renaissance era or even post renaissance.
So my friends were huge winx fans when we were like 5-9 years old and I was never really interested in it, but actually my phase began last year when I was 12 and I am really disappointed to see s8 to be... Like this. But I guess it makes sense. I seem to be the only one in my age that openly likes winx and stuff like that. I guess it's uncool and preteens with a lack of self conciousness need to be cool, I guess. It's sad, both that the older kids don't want to watch it anymore, and that it's like this now. The girls are very cute but what the heck did they do to the boys I died when I saw them
I forgot to say
THEY WHITEWASHED FLORA WTF
My personal opinion… Insted of doing this „ season 8” Rainbow shuld just do re-make of the show.
Younger children would be pleased by look. New style wouldn’t be so shocking as well, becouse a lot of time passed since Winx Club first debut. Winx going back to school would be actualy resonable since season first started from Bloom just starting her magic education as she didn’t even know she was a fairy back then, so there would be a lot space to not only coppy old plot but also to improve story.
After soo many years of Winx Club there is for sure plenty things that were pointed out to late to include/fix them in show (Trix past for example was never touched ever before).
In my opinion it’s a missed oportunity. If Rainbow just changed style while doing a re-make most of the worst ‚mistakes’ that were pointed out wouldn’t be counted as one, becouse if they were to go back to the begining they could solve a lot of things in diferent way relatively easy and actualy have pretty good reason to do so…
The style for s8 is tolerable for me but I still enjoyed it... I hope Icy's back story has a purpose next season
the worst part is tat we cant even watch the episodes anymore in S8
Old winx : very pretty 🥰😍🤩
Now winx : Just eww..
Why does Nex look like James Charles 😭
Now I do like Icy back story but I don't think it works well on Icy specificaly. In the first 3 season the Trix are presented as evil for the sake of being evil, they know than what they are doing is wrong and they like it. Season 2 makes a point to show us how unredemable they are, and it makes sense for them since they are the ancenstral witches successors. If a villan has that kind of back stories they usualy need to show early signs of that otherwise it feels like a big retcon. I don't know if you have seen/red The Hunger Games and The ballade of Songbirds and Snakes but President Snow, the villan of the trilogy, depsait the fact than he is Katniass enemy he still respects her and even helps her when he is about to die. In the prequel we learn than this relationship is due to the fact than when he was young Snow mentored to victory and fell in love with the District 12 femele tribute named Lucy Grey Baird in the 10th Hunger Games, even if by the end of the book they tried to kill eachother Snow still repsected Lucy Grey untill the end, so much so than he strted to poison his political rivals inspired by Lucy Greay's use of poison both in and out of the Hunger Games arena. Icy should have showed at least a litte simphaty for Bloom' situation since the start for this backstory to make senese. I also didn't like the way they showed the Trix's relationship with eachother, it felt too mushy for them. In season 2 and 3 the Trix act like any siblings when they intrect with eachother, moking eachother and joking around in an evil yet warm way, they are quick to join forces against Drak Ray, and the fact than they resisted Valtor atempts to try to devide them showed us how close they where and how much they ment for eachother in a way than is fitting for a villan.
Overall Season 8 is not that bad it has some standout moments and I honestly woudn't mind a re-watch, unlike season 5-6-7 witch I'll gladly never watch agian.
Yeah Its like zoe’s backstories getting slapped on our faces with her “emotional past” unlike chloe. In miraculous ladybug, at least chloe’s backstory doesnt gets slapped right onto our face, they are telling it without telling it- the creator meant to make zoe a good character within her backstory. She needs time to get known.
Ok now my point is The problem with icy’s backstory is to make her be good. Because as you said, It was explained that ice and the other two were evil. Now they want to give icy and her friends some attention, miserably failing at it, because in the latest seasons,the trio have remained trash. To make a good character, they need a good reason to be good or evil, have favorites,dislikes and a interesting plot
35:12 Is this true?? I'm excited!
At least this Season doesn’t have CGI segments, or else they would’ve looked like a mix of Bratz and Foodfight! Mo cap mixed with squash and the designs would range from creepy to pure nightmare fuel.
Thankfully, season 9 is gonna come out in the og style
Can u share the release date ?
7:19 PRINCESS TUTU !!
Comrade! Princess Tutu is probably my favorite anime so I had to include it somehow
Really nice video
I had a rough time getting through season 8 the first time I watched it don't get me wrong I think it was a definite step up from season 7 but like you obscurum was a bit difficult to get through I do think it picked up as the season went on and I'm really mixed on how I feel about the icy revelation partially cuz it messes with what had been set in place before as far as Canon but I do like the parallels to bloom story
16:35 lmao their facial expressions say it all
Everything was great except the drawings, the script was amazing
I agree with a lot of these points. I could binge all of season 3 in one sitting without falling asleep but I cant say the same for season 8.
OMG at 16:40 it's a copy paste in reverse !!!
I did not even seen the second part.
With the guitars, there are 4-string guitars, which is the bass guitar. I personally gave up on Winx after season 6.
Flora and Aisha should not have been whitewashed
I just don't understand. It's not as though Rainbow is re-writing the entire of Winx Club. The later seasons may be 'less good' than the first few, but what do we have to lose? Nothing.
Well..they are rebooting the show from the beginning for season 9. At least we will always have the original.
I would honestly like to know where you watched the new season at bc like …….I didn’t watch the full thing lol
I watched the first few episodes on RUclips and the rest on Dailymotion. I think season 8 is available on Prime Video as well.
Rosie Vision I watched on daily motion to lol but that was right after the full season aired so they didn’t have all the episodes I should’ve checked after a while thank you
Sky’s teeth in the thumbnail I can’t😭
Where did it all go wrong?
People want winx adult theme but I personally think it just be targeted to people who grew up watching it and kids like 9 10 11 12 13 all that jazz but we need something bright pop and also relatable I what to see the characters change and evolve and I want that winx club funny moements and dumb, I feel like it should be targeted to all audiences in a relatable way learning and also good Plots and learning to change and grow I would like to see that please
I think what most fans want out of more adult (not that the original 4 WC seasons weren't that while still being for kids,) WC show is one where the tone and spirit of the original is still intact,but the darker subject matter,like genocide,divorce,politics,family death etc. is made more explicit and expanded on, than just leaving it as subtext. Add in some new plotlines that take the implications of the OG show and run with it(like PGSM to the SM anime/manga) and you got the perfect show made for older fans.
They're never going back to the all ages approach like in S1-4. Rainbow has made it clear that they want WC to be more childish now(even if it ruins what came before). And while the execution is bad,Fate shows that they still want to give something for older fans. So the best way is to let them know that Fate is NOT the right way to do it by not giving it any attention.
At least 4Kids I’d say was PG, considering it did have some adult jokes occasionally. While Nick just doesn’t have anything aside the time in S6 when Stella was putting on the groomsmen outfits on the specialists, she forgot pants and Sky very stupidly said “I think this look might be a little too tropical” when it was so obvious they were in boxers.
Where can you watch winx season 8? Can't find it anywhere
It's on Prime Video for some countries. I watched it on Dailymotion personally, but it looks like someone uploaded all of season 8 to RUclips recently. Might get taken down later but here's a playlist with the whole season
ruclips.net/p/PLuLJ1UfoY9gcMKxnwJROJ70aK2CTKFrpc
tbh if they didn't whitewash the cast i would've maybe given it a try
I like Princess Icy but they should have made the conflict between her and Icy visible. Maybe a flashback of Icy trying to take Sapphire with her but either Sapphire tries to bite her and doesn't want to leave the frozen people behind or she literally can't leave
Yeah I don't think they explained why they needed to be separated. Would have made the stakes higher.
EPİC!!!!!
I know this is kind of unrelated but they’re doing the same thing with monster high and any early 2000s/2010s good ass cartoons even though it’s different companies and different people just making everything so visually childlike it’s not the vide. I couldn’t bring myself to watch season 8 I was truly way too offended but what they did to the specialist.
I love this show💖💖💖💖💖
Actually I enjoyed season 8 as a whole. Yes, the infantilism and new art style are outrageous - especially the pedophilia with the specialists… But at least the series had a plot. Cosmix had a point of existing, the Winx weren’t a hive mind as other seasons, Knut and the Trix were back, the attacks were interesting and we got Enchantix and Sirenix back (although I hate their redesign). Crystal Sirenix was something and the Winx’ casual outfits were so iconic and way better than “school uniforms”. I liked that Valtor was back, even though as a weakling.
Actually I do agree that the Trix being back saved the season - I loved their OG personalities and how they deeply loved and cared for each other (I shed several tears, ok 😭😍).
I adored the finales of the two haves: when Bloom had to made a dangerous choice to safe her loved ones and the Sun or give Cosmix to Valtor and when Icy aided the Winx with the last prime star. The stakes were pretty high, even for a lower demographically made Winx season.
Also what happened to those dark creatures that were talking with Valtor? So much ideas for lore and future villains!
If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic all your dreams can come true
I don't like the Icy hair and magic change but I like the idea behind a back story
my fav is icy she's has a little sister
i love heart of stone.
I don't like how light and bright they made Winx. I miss the scary monsters and masterminds. and the outfits too, I miss the mini skirts and heels.
and the music, the music was so unique in the earlier seasons, it's not like that anymore.
I also feel like the series lost some of its charm once it started using more bright/saturated colours. I liked the mixture of bright with dark that we had in earlier seasons, and it was reflected in the writing as well. That's why personally I don't really like the look of the TV specials. It looks gorgeous, but it feels kind of lifeless too.
at s8 they domt even look 16 they look 13
With that overall tendency to kids shows being more popular it's interesting that on Totally Spies channel TS episodes have 100 times more views than the Amazing Spiez, I guess it was really bad lol
I hoop Roxy be seventh Winx That my most i want
I have watched upto season 4 aired on cartoon network
Am I the only one who actually liked Obscurum and wished he stayed longer?
But I like the confrontation between Obscurum and Dorana
Yes
And for s1 Darcy have already used riven then in s8 she is using him again
I didn’t watch season 8 because a friend of mine showed the voice acting 💀💀
Winx Club season 8 is the worst Season of all because the characters drawing design are a lot different from their usually Nickelodeon Season 5-7 designs drawing and to me the Winx looks like Bratrz doll.
The story it's self is a bit off. First obscurum team up with Valtor half way in the episodes and then later the Trix have returned and team up with Valtor again for the second half of Season 8. But it's not just the episodes it's self but the characters in Winx Club season 8 doesn't make sense.
1. Orion- we only seen him halfway until after episode 13 and never seen Orion again for the rest of the Season 8 like if he's done for good
2. Diaspora- Now I have a lot of issue with Diaspora returning in Season 8. Back in Season 6, Diaspro team up with the Trix after they conqued Eraklyon Institute and was promise to be part of the Trix's team after she succed in taking down Bloom which Diaspro is willing to. However Diaspro suddenly disappeared after the confront with Bloom's sister Daphne and never been seen for the entire Season 6 which doesn't really make sense.
But now Diaspro reappeared in season 8 at Eraklyon Palace instead of attending still at Eraklyon Institute. What I've notice that she wasn't punished for what she had done at Domino or her scheme from Season 3 like if these event never exist in the first place. What bothered me is that Diaspro is still after Prince Sky again and this she tricking him to go on her Eracklyon misson but failed and then left at the beginning of episode 19 which doesn't make any sense either.
What else doesn't make sense is why hasn't Diaspora transform to her fairy form just like she did back on Season 6 in order to help Sky against the black unicorn 🦄 or during their fake mission.
3. Musa and Riven- They've break up their relationship at the near end of season 6 but in season 8 they got back to together again which doesn't make sense at all in the first place or why Riven return in the series.
4. It's a shame Roxy didn't appear again in Season 8 then again neither have Daphne, I just hope that Roxy will return in the new Winx Club Season 9 so she could finally earn her enchantix and become a guardian fairy like Bloom, Stella, Flora , Musa, Tecna and Aishia.
5.The worst of all in Winx Club Season 8 which I felt is unfinished is the abandon story of Icy's kingdom and her sister sapphire still curse as a white fox by the Shamon Witch. I just felt this is wrong and I'm hoping that the upcoming Winx Club Season 9 will continue were Season 8 left off.
You know, it's really stupid to say the season is the worst just because of the artstyle and whitewashing 🤦🤦
Just imagine if there was old artstyle, would you then say S8 was the worst? Try to think and say objectively!
In this season there was no : Magic Winx Cosmix, or : Bloom, fairy of the dragon flame, each fairy got her personality back, we saw their friendship and hanging again, each fairy had again her own style and clothes depending on her own style and personality! Clothes were not just the same with different colors like in seasons 5-7!
Also the plot was more mature than seasons 5-7! Transformation sequences were not lazy and horrible anymore!
So in conclusion, S8 can't be the worst, because just look at that Nickelodeon disaster! Nickelodeon destroyed Winx Club and everything we loved! And Rai tried to do everything they can to remove bad things Nickelodeon brought to the series!
So S8 is plotwise, transformationwise, qualitywise better than Nickelodeon seasons