Can Historical Ottomans Win WW1 In HOI4?
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What if you were FORCED into being historical in Hearts of Iron 4? What if you played the Great War Redux mod in HOI4 as the Ottoman Empire, one of the very worst nation in the game, and could only use the accurate historical designs?
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I've been on a HOI4 binge of using only the historical presets given by Paradox, alongside accurate, historical division organization. Can I do the same as the Ottomans in the wonderful WW1 mod Great War Redux, and see if I can survive my own collapse, plus endless Balkan wars?
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WW1 Ottomans, but only Historical Presets & Divisions In HOI4?
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I know It's not what you intended but that could have been a real legit Turkish grandpa cosplay
I respect the dedication to historical incompetence
The spirit of incompetence just flowed through me and I couldn’t do anything about it :(
Hi Bittersteel!
Synusia winning in Libya is actually historical. IRL they fought against British French and Italy and controlled all of Libya for the majority of the war. They were so good they got a separate peace with the Entente. But they got annihilated by Mussolini later on.
Desert Lion Omar Mukhtar. Sheyh of Senussiyya
I had no idea! That’s so badass
sigma Senusiyya 🗿🗿🗿🗿
I told u like 2 times in. The love chat dude ):@@Aldrahill
@@Weightyloan15 I actually remember that now :( It's hard to remember everything xD
Here’s an idea that I’m not sure you’ve done yet: WW2 Canada. I’ve recently been playing Canada as a pure support nation and have been having a ton of fun capping Italy and the like. I know this is a bit different but I think it would be interesting
Yes! Desperately need to do Canada, and all commonwealth nations really! I think August is when I’m planning it?
Yes!
Canada for the win
@@AldrahillCan’t wait for historical New Zealand
Canada got a buff in the last patch, the navy got doubled in size 😂
23:17 lmao casualy doing war crime in the caucasus like it was nothing silly ottoman
Next: Competitive multiplayer hoi4 with historical preset & division
Oh god what a pain to organise xD
@@Aldrahill you'd most likely need a mod for that. Though I don't see it being all that fun once the novelty wears off.
You should continue this game as Ataturk an recover all the lost territory. That would be fun.
"Grandpa grandpa, skipidi no cap fr fr" "gyat" 💀
I quite literally died filming this 💀
Dude I shit you not there is a translate to English button
@@Whiskers4169 nah, even youtube doesn't take that as english 💀
Way too much railroading in this mod, it would be interesting if you could mitigate the Ottoman's failures more. Not stop them, but make them a little less bad.
I think if I helped Germany push in France could’ve won? But yeah a ton of railroading
@@Aldrahill it wouldn't even be as bad if it weren't for what it does after the mod. Japan and the US can sit the war out but even if they do they get maluses as if they fought in the war.
It is very railroaded, same with regular Kaiserreich
Yeah, I always want to play Ottomans in these kinda games, but so many of them are "The Ottomans sucked, here is your -90% debuff, no you cannot get rid of it."
Even Vic3 does it, where if you don't fix everything in like 2 years i think, it just sticks an unremovable nation ruining debuff on you.
this is exactly why i prefer the original great war mod, far more flexibility, and the post-war modifiers aren't nearly as bad. you can actually...play after 1918. revolutionary, i know.
I hate how little choice this game gives for the ottomans. It wants you to loose and it will go out of its way just so that it can fuck you over. I am surprised that gallipoli isn’t a transfer territory to Britain event like those in the Levantine region. Don’t get me wrong , I appreciate the historical accuracy, I was thought these event in school but if hoi4 was just historical accuracy than it wouldn’t be fun now would it. If I play as the ottomans I expect to be able to reform and to get rewarded for my knowledge of its history not be forced to get destroyed
I think it's because the Ottomans were dying and the War was the final blow, but it would be cool to do a way to save the empire like giving up territory to stabilize then reconquer
this mod feels just a bit too railroaded with the events
You missed the after peace content. After you capitulated you got the "Kuvay-ı Milliye Problem" event with only one option, "Send the Mustafa Kemal Pasha". Historically, this "event" sparked the "Turkish War of Indepence". I really hoped you would continue and become "Ankara Goverment" but yeah it was a great video! And Ottomans becoming a dominion is kinda historical.
Historical? They butchered Anatolia into 5 parts originally!
Win* World War II as Poland, but you can only use infantry
So 30 mins of hel
1936 or 1939 start date?
@@SmallPotato2313 1936
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@@kaptan_davuk losing 13% of your population in 4 years is enough to declare the ottomans as the worst
Naaah austuria hungary performed worse
Austro-Hungarian Empire: *Collaspes*
The whole Central Powers: "Guess we're surrendering now."
Cold war iron curtain. Cold war gone hot with historical American divisions
I actually thought you'd win in the beginning until I realised you were playing as the Sick Man what a shame;if only the Femboyvarians were there to save the Central Axis Powers.....
Mr. Hill, two questions: One, why don't you toggle off decisions that you don't want to do so you can actually be alerted when one that you do want to do becomes available, and two, do you ever use the medal system for divisions? I don't think I've seen a single HoI4 youtuber even touch it.
God I always forget that!
And honestly I rarely use the medal system - it’s far too much micro for too little benefit. I do do it if I’m roleplaying a bit, like with a Soviet guards division or something
Alright here’s a real challenge play yunnan in the new order but only use historical republic of China division templates
You should try playing as the whites in the Russian Civil War with Historical Presets & Divisions.
I love your hoi4 videos alot. I don't have a good enough pc to play this game but I do know it takes hours for making videos and playing this game. Thanks for all the time and effort put into the content 👍 also the fact that u try to use historical units and that makes the game way harder. Much credit for all the content
Great vid man keep up the good work i love your videos and you deserve to have 1 million subs
Thank you so much! Let’s see if I can hit 50k subs first ;)
A Little tip on the Balkan War if you aren't too obsessed with history: Turn your artillryless infantry into shock troops made of 4 infantry (2×2) and 4 artillery (I use 8) and buy a shitton of artillery at discounted German prices. They bust through Bulgarian lines and can be used to encircle their troops. Use the cavalry and irregular cavalry to hold at greece as greece's army is too weak and doesn't often try to push. And don't make your divisions so large. 3×3+1 infantry and 1 or 2 artillery artillery is good enough to hold the line and doesn't put as much strain on your supply lines (Rhodopes is very bad about this).
During the italian ottoman war its best to place the units around the ports and instantly attack when they land
Ive been waiting for this along time
if you win the libyan war and just ignore Asir, theyll push up hejaz but not go into the levant. you can then just naval invade their core territory (its 3 provinces) and capitulate them, extremely easily
My man you are not winning trablusgarp. The best you might get is hold on long enough for a white peace but you need to prepare for that a lot with all those debuffs
@Whiskers4169 there are multiple videos on RUclips where Ottmans win
Biggest frustration with the mod for me. Is how often it just goes "... yeah but history..." and forces a peace deal and such regardless of if you're winning or not. At least it does it to me a lot. Like I could be making good progress into France and it just goes "Yeah but France won my dudes, so peace deal and you lost."
You know, i like seeing someone loosing for once. You only see WC's or victory and expansion. But loosing can be fun, interesting and historical too. Thanks
Agreed! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Do BICE China with historical templates
Reform byzantium using historically accurate byzantine divisions (light horse = cavalry mabye cataphracts are tanks)
55 days at peking. Peak old war movie
Oooo never heard of that movie before that sounds good!
LET'S GO
You sticked to your promise it seems
Thanks youtube algorithm from week ago I've watched so many of your vids.
Blessed RUclips W! Welcome buddy!
New idea: Historical Countries but in Black Ice Mod
XD look at my videos right now :D ones coming out tomorrow!!
Would've loved to hear you struggle more with Turkish words!! I love this series.
Please do Black Ice Finland Historical Division designs, templates and Division amount, (only have the number of divisions that there were historically) also if you cant find sources use A Frozen Hell by William R. Trotter it has all the historic amounts accounts and division structures
You've played with historical armies. But what about winning with historical planes and historical boats?
Sadly the planes don’t really work in this mod! But I usually do ! Next vid is USA in Black Ice, and I’ll be going crazy with historical designs :D
oh look, it's an Ottoman campaign, i wonder what you could do to spice it up in the event, let's say, you hit 50k subs
Hey devs told me there will be an ottoman rework because the ottoman debuffs are a bit ridiculous will you do another try when the update come ?
Cool idea! I’ll keep an eye on it and consider it!
gonna try it myself
*ceddin deden plays*
I think you should do a video like Hystorical Romania.
I got an idea for a vid New Zealand tank only
So I have a fun little challenge Calvary and light tanks only Hungary, yes put light tanks and cav together please I need this
You did worse than historical ottomans, thats impressive
Yıldırım Birlikleri or Yıldırım Ordusu was basically Turkish adaptation of German shocktroopers. They didn't win us the war but were reportedly more capable than regular infantry divisions (well Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was a very capable commander, him being the leader of the army group certainly helped). For everyone, don't blame Turkiye for Ottoman problems. House Osman is lurking in Europe still, go take your hate out of them!
Now, can you please try historical only greece in ww1 because the creator added a masive new focus tree?
Oooo I’ll take a look!
I swear this man has read Fall of the Ottomans by Eugene Rogan.
Losing all that land pissed me off 😭
Is it bad that i enjoy your adds more than the majority of the video
Ohhh shit thank you xD another one next week as well :D
still watching video already know it's a banger though
Nahhhh naahhhh, that's just ultimate torture now
yildirim birlikleri literally translates to stormtroopers
That makes sense!
I am once again asking for artillery only challenge
Clears throat.
Do Bulgarain historical divisions on the ww1 mod.
If you could goo sir,thank you.
Authotarian Latvia video when?
Lawrence of Arabia is coming to theaters again August 11th and 12th
Norway is a nice country you know. you should visit sometime. Anyway, Norway historical division when?
Definitely want to do that! Maybe I’ll do a sort of minor country video and play like 3 minors like Norway?
@@Aldrahill Was just about to suggest Norway! There should be plenty of info out there to make it a possibility, at least. Would love to see it.
Form the Great Romania or survive in WW1 with the historical divisions ❤
Historical WW1 france would he nice to see!
Its not ‘sublime port-e’ its just the normal pronunciation of port
Anyways i love the Ottoman vids 👍👍👍
Can you do historical presets for Bulgaria WW1?
It’s on the plan!!
Hmmmm.. how about historical Barbados in millennium dawn. That autta be fun..
I LOVE MENGKUKUO
I find it a bit shite that no matter how well you perform you're dragged down by the AI failing and are pretty much just forced to lose at the end. It feels like if you aren't playing Germany or maybe Austria-Hungary you get an automatic loss as any of the other Central Powers
Yeah that's the trouble with this mod :(
I like the great war mod, but it makes it way too hard to win as the central powers.
Just 900 subs to go!
I know right?!? Getting so close!
Does pretending to be historical include not even trying to win?
How very dare you! I tried to win - the army modernisation maluses were incredibly punishing against the British tbh
Do the proper hydration challenge next.
Truly impossible :( just woke up with my mouth all dry :(
@@Aldrahill: ((((
You can play Turkish War of Independence, by the way!
I should have!
My Great Grandad fought in the middle eastern front
Pte Thomas Smyth, 1st Connaught Rangers, Mesopotamia and Palestine campaigns 1917-18
Wow , a cooperation with a game i actually love and play
And btw , congrats for torturing yourself again
make the whole world communist in the cold war mod
Pls do the turkish war of independence in great war redux with historical divisions
Can you play persia for once? Thanks 😊
Historical Bhutan please
Hmm, what about historically accurate division templates but in Millenium dawn as Iraq or Russia?
Do you get the sinking of the titanic event in GWR
Yes!
@@Aldrahill can you showcase that maybe?
Across the Dniper ukraine due to how many sources of it
Being an Arab will be thornier than you suppose, Harith!
I call ottoman chairs Turkishman
How about ww1 Greece with historical presets & divisions?
Could be fun for a smaller minor focused video!
you should have played the Turkish War of Independence! We worked really hard on that :)
Awwww damn next time!
Play the next series with mods
What mods? :)
You did your best tho
Tank only Luxembourg’s when???
What if you tried to do the Turkish war of independence from where you left this?
Might be gold for a stream!
You Brits remember Gallipoli, but not Kut. Why is that? Much love from a Trans-Atlantic cousin.
Just learnt about that! Worse defeat of the allies, super interesting!
Where is black ice Poland? I’ve been asking forever.
It’s on its way :) got majors to do first!
@@Aldrahill 😊 good very good and can I please get a shout out
I really wanna know why the German empire AI always gives up when you can very obvious win. Ruined a few Austria Hungary runs for me.
They just don’t realize the buffs on a timer!
Ww2 historical Finland when?
It’s on the list!! :)
@@Aldrahill Awesome!! I am from Finland and i love your videos. They are good to watch before sleep, cuz your voice is so calming :DD
i swear i asked for this like 2 months ago
And I listened! So it’s all your fault!
Which mod is this?
Great War Redux!
@@AldrahillThanks!
Can you play Romania next.
How about WW1 Italy historical divisions?
More Italy… oh god…
@@Aldrahill Tbh, terrain in Alps and rivers also amount of soft attack in Great war Redux, at this point you can just stay in the same place for entire war
could u do greece after pls
Do cold war iron curtain as soviet
no because the couch
Play historical games, get historical results they say, or something like that.
You def could have won this game+ the first Balkan war, the ai doesn't have the soft attack to push you out of positions
I don’t really like when the youtuber goes back to make everything perfect for them though :/. Especially to go against what happened historically in a historical video game
I honestly barely had a chance I got rekt so quickly !!