WW1 Germany, but only Historical Presets & Divisions In HOI4?
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2024
- What if you were FORCED into being historical in Hearts of Iron 4? What if you played the Great War Redux mod in HOI4 as Germany, and could only use the regular historical designs?
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I've been on a HOI4 binge of using only the historical presets given by Paradox, alongside accurate, historical division organization. Can I do the same as the Germans in the wonderful WW1 mod Great War Redux, and defeat the Entente?
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The addition of Historical presets into Hearts of Iron IV was an awesome thing for massive history nerds like myself. Now, I play REALLY historically, using only the stupid tanks and planes that happened in real life! I'm aiming to do this with EVERY country in the game (or at least every major) so let me know a good suggestion down in the comments for more countries to play!
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WW1 Germany, but only Historical Presets & Divisions In HOI4?
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Lets make a petition for Poland game to fight against German Empire!
My dragon boy will sweat 2 hell lot lmao that’s a great idea
I agree
Bro, I read “petition for Poland” as “partition for Poland”
Yes
@@winddings351 germanic eyes
i love how its ww1 now and not ww2 i think personaly that ww1 is a bit more interesting and we all saw ww2 like milion times in HOI4
Thank you! Really glad to hear that you don't hate it :D WW2 ones will still continue, absolutely, but I like the idea of mixing it up a bit! :)
If you really want to fight WW1 there is a rts called The Great War
Its by the dudes that made command and conquer
I agree with the above commenter, this was a very enjoyable and unique watch x)
Would you ever consider doing a RT56 or another cold war styled version of this challenge? I personally think that'd be really cool@@Aldrahill
I LOVE RT56! Definitely want to revisit this challenge with that mod, though th next mod to do this with is Black Ice :D
I love The Great War :) beaten it as Entente and Germany on Max difficult, so it's kinda done for me :(
To clarify: Torpedo boats are not the precursor to destroyers. Torpedo boat destroyers are.
Torpedo boats are small fast crafts armed with torpedoes that aim to toss out torpedo spreads against much larger and much, much more expensive ships.
Torpedo boat destroyers were purpose built ships intended to, believe it or not, destroy torpedo boats. To do this they had to be fast enough to keep up and have some reasonable firepower with the range to defend the big boy ships out on missions.
Because torpedo boats largely disappeared and the torpedo boat destroyers expanded their duties to fight subs, aircraft and firing torpedoes themselves the name got changed to just be destroyers.
Indeed, extremely correct!
They become what they fight
So thats the origin of screening ship. Their name makes sense now.
Torpedo boats didnt dissapear! They became patrol boats. Often used as coastal defense by European powers (germany would use them in the English channel during ww2), but also as raiding ships by the US in all of Oceania.
The modern form of them is the Fast Attack Craft.
@@volatile100 yeah thats why I used a qualifier. The successors to the torpedo boat do not pose a credible threat to a fleet so they essentially also have crept towards a different role.
Fun Fact: German General Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck, The "Lion of Africa", led about 14,000 German forces in Southwest Africa. He held up over 300,000 Allied troops in Africa and is revered for never having been captured or losing a battle. He is an interesting general, and I thought of him when Aldra kept forgetting he had African holdings
Indeed! I forgot to mention him, but I wish there was any information about his actual troop composition!
Ah, yes, the battle of the bees
He also participated at the genocide of the herero. So maybe Stop worshiping war criminals Just because it makes a good story
Someone can be an absolute badass, whom did really interesting feats of war, while also being a complete and total bugger in other ways. I can appreciate the military acumen, but hate the literal destruction of peoples @@jochurwa5480
@@Aldrahill you would never call any other murderer a badass or Talk in length about their skills. It is always this gloryfication of old (mostly German) warcriminals.
In an alternate universe "Second Weltkrieg using only historical presets".
the Austria Hungary research you will have to make its going to be so horribleeee, those guys literally had like 3 armies
I've already started and it is HELL I hate it
@@Aldrahill historically accurate
26:42 When Kitchener was going to Russia his ship hit a German mine on the way there and it sank, not from a U-Boat
You are totally right! Though I like the conspiracy theory he was assassinated:P
Probably just the Kings Man movie depicted it. Average Hollywood moment
Im surprised you did this instead of continuing with base game major nations. I cant complain tho, a welcome surprise is something to celebrate.
Tbh, other than France and arguably China, I've done all the majors! Will still be doing some minors in base game, but I just want to try mixing it up a bit :)
I'd like to think that with how historical this is and how perfectly all of the borders and stuff line up this is just basically the backstory to Kiaserreich
My problem with the redux ww1 mod is that at the divisions have a scale of an army and have around 10k in them. Naturally, thus leads to less divisions bring Deployed. This leads to gaps in tge front and makes france run wild in rhine and Russian plan to take East Prussia and Galicia seem incredibly easy, which doesn't make you truly FEEL ww1.
I didn’t really find that was a problem for me! I just had to be constantly recruiting to ensure I have enough :P
You should play the "totally not falling apart Empire that owns Constantinople!"
The Healthy Man of Asia Minor.
I think he should play a historical austria hungary
I wonder why Germany is portrayed as the antagonist in WWI when they were literally just defending themselves and their neighbors from Russian aggression?
Confirmed warcrimes against civilian population is occupied countries (IE : Belgium) +, first use of chemical weapons, first use of flamethrower, first use of civilian fire bombing, first use of submarines against civilian ship, some even neutral.
Most countries have a pretty valid reasons to see them as bad peoples
@@Panzermeiller Even though they were fighting in a defensive war against the Russian+French land grabbing...
@@WimsicleStranger”defensive”😊
As a person who plays mod grom time to time i dont know why you hated that division change like realistically it may have been bad but gameplay wise very good move bcz now you can have more division with art in battle then normal i personally use 22 witdh divs with 2 artis
After having played it I agree! I was worried that the lack of infantry meant my org and def would be too low to hold, but the enemy ai wasn’t aggressive enough for it to be a problem :)
Playing Poland is a great idea! There will be no problems that you need to deal with whatsoever!
It will be so instantly easy :D
I would love to see an ottoman one. The research Will probably be really difficult but it would be a fun one to watch
Maybe try the historical Presets of Austria Hungary for next time.
I think that will be "fun".
I'm dreading it xD
Could you please play Austria-Hungary? Would be very nice if you do.
Definitely on the list! Assuming people don’t totally hate the ww1 reboot :D
I miss howitzer redux: (
(Howitzers were insanity overpowered a couple of months ago they had like 30 or more soft attack per division)
Yeah that would have been nice :( now they’re total dogshit
Do Bulgaria next
You got yourself a new subscriber. Good luck in all your future games.
Ww1 needs more love.
Also, fun fact, the British Mark IV’s, or the mother tanks, had the nickname of “BIG WILLIE”
*BIG WILLIE!*
BIG WILLIE!! and yes agreed :)
Historical ww1 otomans would be crazy
Absolutely, I’m excited for it!
WW1 Russia Presets is pure pain or Austria-Hungary
YES both are coming soon :)
@@Aldrahill Thank you mate, love the pain you put in for well us.
Appreciate it, I'm glad you enjoy them!
Love to see more of these WW1 vids as well as the WW2 ones!
Awesome! Got a new WW1 one as Britain going live tomorrow so hopefully you’ll enjoy that :)
@@Aldrahill I certainly will! Thanks for all the great content!
One thing on the Cavalry in Infantry Divisions: German peacetime Divisions included a brigade of Cavalry but gave them away except for a Squadron (aka a divisional recon company) when they mobilised to form Cavalry Divisions
0:21 when the shiba dog is frowning i really felt the horrors of war and the true depths of man's depravity towards man in the name of abstract political goals and blind nationalism
I’m so glad my meme choice conveyed the abstract horror I was trying to get across
OMG, YEAAS! This is so cool 😎
Yes please, would love more WW1 videos with this format. Also, imo, while being restricted to historical designs given by missions or FTs, you should adjust the templates if they're ridicously inaccurate
Glad you like it! And Definitely, I’ll adapt them if needed in the future :)
More Great War videos!Iconic war as your videos!
I would like to see a play through a Germany where you switch to Poland once you are able to establish it and either cooperate with your German “liberators” or try and side with the entente
I don't know if you were aware during the recording, but for the infantry doctrines you chose both historical options that the Germany Empire used; "Materialschlacht" was a term used in the times and more or less their industrial idea and Defence in Depth which was a defensive tactic developed by the Germans in WW1.
Besides that, I really enjoyed watching the vid, just found you in my recommendations, am looking forward to watching the other videos on your channel :)
I wasn’t aware, thank you :) and welcome, glad you found the videos and enjoyed!
The rubber production comes mainly from the small part of New Guinea we own. Shoulda protected it
Yup, I just totally abandoned it :(
historical ww1 video is cool!
Your historical preset series is pretty interesting and I think I watched them all.
What I also like are historical roleplay series, like one proud bavarian does.
That would mean that you start with historical presets and develop things following your actual situation.
I mean... the historical slimmed their divisions because lack of manpower. If for one reason or another you didn't suffer those losses, why slim down your divisions?
Yeah it’s a cool concept right?
I think the problem with that idea is that that’s just playing regular hoi4, you know? I slim divisions down because I’m low on manpower, nothing particularly interesting about that!
"Wait until 1915, then something horrifying happens" - well, at least he wasn't playing Turkey
When your done doing all the ww2 countrys you should do a challenge of what if they used their ww1 division templates in ww2
That’s so weird, I had the EXACT thought today! Already planning to do Germany and USA just like that :)
Yes, Please play as Kingdom of Poland
Hey german here! It‘s the Schliefenplan not Schleifenplan :) just felt like letting you know amazing video and very creative though!
I understand German is a tough language XD we even pronounce the german r like the french. Check out google translate to know how to say it!
Thank you! I suck at pronounciation, no matter how hard I try xD
Just loved your video mate,please try a ww2 match playing as soviet union using the realistics templates for the divisions and try to take over the world
I’ve actually already done that! Check my videos, I did it a couple months ago :) didn’t take over the world though, just best Germany :)
Cool vid! Just wanted to say that the reason you couldn’t find much info on German division composition in Africa is because Germany dedicated near nothing to their African territories, so (at least as far as I can remember) German forces in Africa were rather unorganized compared to their European forces.
Yup that’s pretty icy what I figured :)
Now play as belgium, good luck
Great video, enjoy the fact you attempt to create it as realistic and historical as possible.
I think you should play as the ottomans in the next playthrough or after the Britan one if you decide to do it.
Thank you! Definitely, really tried to remain as historical as I possibly can! I'm thinking Britain is next, with ottomans as the next WW1 one :)
It seems the biggest difference between the Great War mod and the redux version is that the original has trenches as another defensive building option like forts instead of the entrench buff, that the AI fails to build which makes pushing much easier.
Yup that’s what I concluded as well - definitely seems like GWR is the better option
torpedo boats where infact not earlyer destroyers. torpedo bots where dirt cheap capital ship killers and the reason why "torpedo boat destroyers" where invented. We later droped the "torpedo boat" part of the name and onkly keept the "destroyer" part.
17:04 the what plane💀
Gotta do the reason for the Geneva convention, Canada.
The only nation German soldiers consistently feared :P definitely gotta do this!
To me it seems the mod devs took into acount the problem of accurate numbers of different artillery in a division and left it at just normal artillery for the beginning as you figured out
Yeah I think it was probably easier for them :P but I like accuracy!!
If you want you could try using the accurate generals when possible in these videos.
Damn good idea!
Was the destroyer(slightly larger with more guns but still fast) not created to counter small, nearly unarmed except for torpedos, torpedo boats? You said that destroyer was the old name for them
Nice vid lil bro.
Love the music🗿
Ayy nice me too
Qing would be fun to do.
Blimps… Adorable??!!?
You got me, subscribed, a fellow being of culture!
My subscribers truly are the smartest and most cultured
Don't play HOI4 but Kaiserreich presets only is another challenge. Anyways next up should probably Austria Great War Redux. I hope you don't suffer too much :)
Germany was almost without blame in this war, but they had to go and invade Belgium.
Hey, it's so convenient :(
Please do Ottoman Empire next
2:15 westfront in a nutshell
I think that to make this video, either I hate living, or you want to make hoi4 more difficult and complicated. Which of the two options do you choose?
I love living AND making hoi4 more difficult :D
also oh my god please do austria-hungary in this mod if possible huge austria-hungary mark here
You should play monarhist russia under nicholas 2
its lovely really is i would like to see that poland gameplay :D
Historical presets Russia under Tsar Nicholas II could be interesting
You can tell this guy gets his history lessons from r/historymemes
HEY! Properly sourced memes can be a great source of knowledge!
But nah, other than a few German efficiency memes, this video was alllll nerd learning, babeyyy. Seriously, I spent way too long on the research for this video. Really struggled to find the specific amount of howitzers and it was driving me CRAZY
Play with ottomans they start with -40 Division attack org defense and have debts and not much stability
I usually don’t like ww1 stuff but this was very entertaining. Can’t wait to see more of ww1 and ww2 videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much, super kind of you to say :) yeah I was really worried people wouldn’t like the ww1 stuff !
I love that you are actually holding back for the sake of interesting video, and not just killing everything effortlessly
Thanks! Yeah I want to create at least a semi historical scenario! :)
Can you try france historical presets ?
I would love to see how good/horrible divisions they have xD
Definitely! Want to do them in ww1 and ww2 as well :)
@@Aldrahill Thank you soo much !!!
DO WW1 AUSTRIA-HUNGAY HISTORICAL NEXT!!!❤
Britain in GW redux is simply stupendously strong. 70 days focus that gives 8 civs and another 8 building slots, plus eight provinces gets their infra leveled up. Britain also has a 300% booster onto researching planes, allowing it to build fighters as early as jan-feb 1914.
Ohhhh shit hope I’m not too strong xD
You should do ww1 Italy next.
Italy anything is pain xD
you should do magna europa its got a new update
I’ll check it out!
Cool
There where specific german units for Africa consisting of askari organised in fieldcompanies supported by aditional german Settler militia units and local auxiliary made up of natives but all in all only a few tausend so not really playabel in hoi4
Indeed! There were also schutztruppe, but I failed in my research :(
Try TNO Germany (dc what factions) with the actual Bundeswehr organization.
19:58 I think the British sent troops through Russia and naval invaded through the Black Sea, thanks to the Russian Navy there :D
French WW1 historicals presets would be nice since... they didn't realy had an army from 1940 to 1944
U made me want to play ww1 portugal now, thx for showing me this amazing mod
Ooo that’s a good idea as well! I wonder what their focus tree is like? And your welcome, glad you enjoyed it :)
Amazing video like always
29:55 yea, Romania was peaced out irl but rejoined the war I think literally a day before it ended
Genius brain manuvor
HISTORICAL TANU TUVA OR MONGOLIA TEMPLATES!
What did Germany do in the twentys??
Hey,you could do painful Polish historical divisions.
So much cavalry!
Please make the Same with Austria-Hungary
Doing a historical WW1 Russia game would be extremely entertaining.
You got it ;)
27:58 the fact you look at your own divisions strength, and don't feel disgusted...
Forgive me, senpai :(
@@Aldrahill its alright mate, I love your voice and your videos
Can we see a Kaiserreich version?
Definitely think it'd be a cool idea :D
That's actually NOT the only tank Germany made, they made a super heavy tank as well towards the end of the war..wait this sounds familiar..
Indeed, but it didn't really see action :)
I think the UK invaded Bulgaria by shipping troops into Russia and then walking all the way to their coastline of the Black Sea, then launched a naval invasion.
GOD if that's true, I'm impressed with the AI!
@@Aldrahill Some EU IV AI slipped in.
Next ones : France for both WW1 and WW2 ! Also Poland please !
Definitely need to do that! Trying to decide what would be better for the next ww1 - Britain, France, ottoman, or Austria-Hungary…
One nation I see people hate on but was actually really good is France. Their military was amazing just lacking due to the government. Or do a ottoman empire
Agreed to both of your suggestions!
Germany most definitely could have won the First World War, it’s very little known but France and literally everyone on the entente were close to breaking, with the defeat of Russia it made morale sore throughout the entirety of the central powers, and as time progressed they got further and further cemented, the only factor that made the entente crawl to the finish line was the American entry which gave the entente the much needed resources, relieving the British economy, and all around boosting entente morale, which forced Germany to launch their assaults to possibly reach Paris and capitulate the entente, basically if America didn’t join the central powers would have won
Naaaah I think their lack of focus on logistics and specific, actinoable goals in the Ludendorf offensive meant that it was doomed from the start
American school system in action
Idea : You should try to play hoi how you would normally do in this mod, as Germany. (E.g. trying to get motorized, tanks, basically ww2 tactics)
Oh god so just rush medium tanks and wait xD
You should do the Korean war
Aldrahill wins a Germany campaign 😊
This means the world will be plunged into the cluster fuck that is Kaserreich 😢
Oh god no xD
Try the Ottomans please
It's dumb. The relative growth of more factories will give you more than infrastructure. The only major exception is when playing the US because your maluses are just that bad and because it allows you to get infinite oil and trade more - which isn't an option for Germany. Build civilians, then build military, then build bases and infrastructure as you need it.
Yeahhhh I think you're right, but I was worried that I was gonna run out of resources - turns out, didn't need to worry about that!
It’s just 70 at 25:28
Australia please:)
Pls play as Danzig in road to 56 chalenge
I've just written that down, that sounds HORRIFYING I want to test it soon :D
Thanks
Oh just saying you can form Prussia