The Best Guitar Pickup Change Money Can Buy? Prs Dragon 11 vs Bare Knuckle The Mule.

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2019
  • In this video, Paul from The Studio Rats compares the stock pickups in his PRS Custom 22 to Bare Knuckle The Mule Pickups. The Studio Rats are core band members Paul Drew on guitar/production/mixing, drummer James Ivey and Dan Hawkins on bass. They collaborate with singers and musicians to produce radio-ready songs.
    www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk
  • ВидеоклипыВидеоклипы

Комментарии • 189

  • @Studio31Zero
    @Studio31Zero 9 месяцев назад +6

    I'm four years late to this video but man do those Dragon pickups sound fantastic. 🔥

  • @joeykelly5642
    @joeykelly5642 3 года назад +68

    The Bare Knuckles are much louder, and since you didn't adjust for that in the comparison, people will choose them over the Dragon II pickups every time - regardless of clarity or EQ.

    • @helixworld
      @helixworld 3 года назад +4

      Yes they are louder, but the mules are much brighter than the stock pickups so that also means they cut better.

    • @seanmackay6739
      @seanmackay6739 3 года назад +10

      They literally sound like they’re mixed louder.

    • @realtruenorth
      @realtruenorth Год назад

      @@helixworld if you just wanna cut, just use EMG 81s, everybody will hear you.

    • @poison7512
      @poison7512 Год назад +3

      The mules are WAY lower output than any of the Dragons.

    • @Jbeland1
      @Jbeland1 Год назад +1

      I agree with helix., If you want an objective review, they at least have to be the same volume.

  • @freddylopez7536
    @freddylopez7536 3 года назад

    Once again you've brought me to a new place. Killer tones from those new pickups. I'm definitely checking those out for a guitar I have that's lost its luster. Thank you.

  • @zvenx
    @zvenx 3 года назад +2

    Wow. This is exactly the comparison I needed. thank you

  • @abellimages
    @abellimages 4 года назад

    Sounds fantastic… Absoultey stellar playing, as well… First time I have stumbles onto your page. I have an 87 PRS that sounds great acoustically but pretty weak plugged in. It is in unaltered state, but the tone plugged in is average at best. Most of my pickup replacements have Wizz pickups, but I am lookig for a Bare Knuckle replacement for this one, and I am definitely liking what I heard here. I will pull the whole PRS harness and go back with all new wire, pots, switches and such to keep the original parts as perfect as I can, but they are the weakest link for sure.

  • @harrybee3093
    @harrybee3093 4 года назад +49

    I think a PRS should sound like a PRS and not like a Les Paul. For me the pick-ups do not sound better or worse but simply different.

    • @seankinnaman9384
      @seankinnaman9384 4 года назад +14

      Harry Bee I think your PRS or LP should sound like you. Whatever pickups help you get there...

  • @theprisonier
    @theprisonier 4 года назад +2

    I got the mules on a firebird. they are awesome. sometimes a guitar some new pickups to go to the top end.

  • @bradt.3555
    @bradt.3555 2 года назад +6

    Really like the mids from the dragon 2's. If you adjusted for volume I think you would get a better comparison. D2's have an A4 magnet, I have a set I put A5's in and wow, little less mids and more bite and clarity but still PRS sounding. WAY cheaper than new PU's. I haven't liked anything but PRS PU's in my PRS's. The D2 bridge is almost exactly what the Santana model uses and he leans toward more mids and smoother top end. My 2 fav PRS PU's are the 57/08's in my Sunburst 22, and the 245/ Mira pu's.

  • @juanfichtl2011
    @juanfichtl2011 4 года назад +23

    The Bare Knuckle sounds pretty good but I think the demo can be a bit misleading given that the BK are way louder than the PRS, I think that at the same volume the difference probably wouldn't be as great.

    • @MrPatdelisle
      @MrPatdelisle 3 месяца назад

      mixed it wrong indeed that is not the pickups sounding louder :/ that's why you need to take those comparisons with a grain of salt

  • @musicroom98
    @musicroom98 4 года назад +4

    I totally get what OP is doing here - sharing his experience for finding the tone he likes. I want all my guitars to sound in a way that speaks to me as well. Comparing brands is just a way to convey that thought to others. My prs had a paf style pickup change that gave it an improved sound all the way around to my ears for my playing. I haven't owned too many guitars that didn't see pickups mods along the way. That's part of the great guitar experience - being able to shape the guitar's tone to your individual taste using modular electronics that most of us can switch out ourselves. Adds to the joy of ownership. An old friend tells me all the time, the wood doesn't care what hardware you use.

  • @eloysuopunki7926
    @eloysuopunki7926 4 года назад +8

    I on the other hand feel like the Dragon II pickups speak straight to my soul, an awesome comparison.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад +3

      Eloy Suopunki thanks for your comment,a difference in opinion is what makes the world go round.

  • @Teddy-be1wv
    @Teddy-be1wv 10 месяцев назад +2

    I adjust the same volume
    I level on the dragon II volume, same as B.
    BK is more muddy attack, more gain.
    Dragon is clear attack,I prefer dragon

  • @domislegend.
    @domislegend. 4 года назад +2

    Great video! I did a similar thing in my custom 22 about a year ago, swapped out the dragon II for a 57/08 and the difference was extremely noticeable. I was originally after a pair of very hard to find 58/15s but settled for the 57/08. Anyone else done similar?

  • @dan-3268
    @dan-3268 2 года назад

    Great video! Cheers👍🏻

  • @ianchristopher6165
    @ianchristopher6165 2 года назад

    Monty's retrowind are fantastic. I'm going to try full Monty in another guitar, not cheap but these are very good pickups.

  • @TheOneAndOnlyKurtNobrain
    @TheOneAndOnlyKurtNobrain Год назад +5

    The Mule sounds like it has got a lot more presence and punch to them; very vintage. The Dragon 11's sound like they're more compressed (better for heavier rock and jazz).

  • @jordandedomusic
    @jordandedomusic 4 года назад +3

    I completely agree about most PRS pickups. I've always wanted one (and recently got my first - a 2004 McCarty) but have always found that plugged in, they tend to be what I describe as "plinky" and almost plastic sounding on single note lines. My Gibson with Motor City 2nd Degree Blackbelt by comparison is rich, barks and sounds woody. It's not that I want a PRS to sound just like a Gibson but they've always left me a little cold and I never quite connected with the sound
    .
    So far I'm actually enjoying the McCarty pups in my McCarty but the Mule or Riff Raff are the two that I was considering if I swap. Thanks for the great comparison.

    • @ajs808
      @ajs808 4 года назад

      Jordan Dedo I have a LP with a Mule in the neck and a Riff Raff in the bridge, and it’s a great combination!

  • @koenstrobbe8101
    @koenstrobbe8101 2 года назад +5

    Tastes vary I guess. I have a Custom 22 with D2s and I think they're great. Lots of note separation and clarity. The series/series single coil middle position is great for soloing and the neck pickup is not as muddy as most neck humbuckers i've played. The only minus with D2s for me is the bridge pickup alone. Its slightly too harsh to my ears. But in this comparison I think the D2s sound more complex than the BKs.

  • @dragan4658
    @dragan4658 4 года назад +10

    Wow, the bareknuckles sound more alive and have the growl of a LP. The difference is amazing! Thanks for sharing! 👍

  • @lordgraga
    @lordgraga 4 года назад

    Great video! I'm a CE-22 owner. When you said that the new position 4 sounded like the old position 2, that might be because the wiring has swapped the order of the coils, or because the pickups are reversed in some other way.
    I've been through 5 set of pickups for my CE-22. In the neck: Dragon II, Full Shred, Alnico II Pro, and PRS Vintage Bass. In the bridge: Dragon II, Dimarzio Super II, Irongear Blues Engines, Duncan Custom, and PRS HFS. I've finally settled on Seymour Duncan Antiquities, which sound AMAZING. They sound so good that since I've installed them and found a proper overdrive for them, I have not been able to put the guitar down, and I haven't been bored with the sound coming out of it for a second, which is unheard of for ANY guitar that I've ever owned.
    The problem with the Antiquities is that they are microphonic, so I can't play loud/high gain with them. The only logical cause of action? Buy another CE-22 and use it to play with more pickups of course! 😁

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад +1

      Hey Jacob, thanks for your comment. That's odd that the Seymour Duncan Antiquities are microphonic, I think you're right, buy yet another guitar and just keep going. You could be right about the position 2 and 4 on my guitar, I had it wired the same way but something might have gone wrong.

    • @anthonydavella8350
      @anthonydavella8350 4 года назад

      @@TheStudioRats not odd at all, theres a reason for wax potting

  • @aaronblack425
    @aaronblack425 4 года назад +3

    Similar feelings. Looking at SD Seth Lovers, possibly Gepetto Camelots, or Antiquities or something. Anyone else switched to something more classic PAF with good results? I have a couple S2s, specifically the single cut I want to sound more like a classic LP, honestly I like the PRS because of build quality, engineering, and better headstock joint design, but I miss my SG.

  • @jacobbockover1628
    @jacobbockover1628 3 года назад

    Im sold it have an s2 and its a muddy guitar in the neck with a bosomy low e especially compared to my other guitars (god in summit/schecter solo 2) thanks I've been looking at pros pickup comparisons all day

  • @Bognerman14
    @Bognerman14 Год назад +1

    Dragon IIs are amazing. Love them.

  • @tkalbfeld1
    @tkalbfeld1 3 года назад +1

    The Mule Pickups sound outstanding!!!

  • @unit5256
    @unit5256 4 года назад

    After hearing this I started looking into BKM pickups. I have a late 90's Custom 24 with HFS pickups that I never cared for. I have wanted to upgrade for years. Which model BKM pickup did you install, Vintage, Hot, etc.? Just curious

  • @jonathananthony1901
    @jonathananthony1901 3 года назад +2

    I like the tone of the Mules here. But I can honestly say that where the Dragon II pickups really shine is in a full band situation. I have a 2003 PRS Custom 22 with the Dragons and it sits in a mix perfectly when I’m playing with my band. It sits in the mix better than any guitar I own. It’s like it just gets heard without sounding too loud or get lost, it’s just THERE if that makes sense. All of my other guitars need a boost or something depending on the song. Just my experience. Cheers!!

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад

      Thanks Johnathan, all great points and agreed.

  • @guitarfreak585
    @guitarfreak585 4 года назад

    I think you just sold me. I've got a PRS that I already changed the bridge pickup in, been looking for a neck pickup now for the same reasons, and this clinched it I believe.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      CodyMBB that’s great, if you buy it direct from Bare Knuckle let them know about the vid. Enjoy the pickups.

  • @h2ophilter
    @h2ophilter 4 года назад +1

    Was thinking of putting Mules in my PRS SE. This video sold me on it. Was also thinking of the PG Blues.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад +1

      h2ophilter awesome, you won’t regret it.best Paul

    • @h2ophilter
      @h2ophilter 4 года назад

      @@TheStudioRats Im also eyeing the Abraxas set. have any experience with those? I already have Mules in my SG so I want to vary it up a little.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      h2ophilter I don’t know those, let me know hiw it goes.

  • @weaselpopper
    @weaselpopper 4 года назад +8

    Much preferred the dragon II neck.

    • @dzines65
      @dzines65 4 года назад +3

      The Dragons are much better sounding.

  • @stevelegget8454
    @stevelegget8454 3 года назад +1

    Hey man. I’ve got the same guitar and I’m getting a set of Mules (since I saw your video), could you please the spacing? I had a look and it looks 50mm.
    Thanks in advance.

  • @upreydeen
    @upreydeen 2 года назад +1

    PRS guitars sound fantastic to begin with, it makes sense to experiment with different pickups, I wouldn't replace the original pickups myself, I would swap magnets for different tones, some pickups components, maybe install an active preamp to add presence, I like the original pickups on this, as I get old I prefer less aggressive, more mellow tones. I think the secret for a great tone also comes with the string gauges, 11s is where the magic begins

    • @realtruenorth
      @realtruenorth Год назад

      also, the way you pick, what the pick is made out of (I prefer a bone pick) and eq knobs on the amp.

  • @humstrumbangtwang
    @humstrumbangtwang 3 года назад +3

    Oh no, what have you done! An eq pedal would have been better for the flubber? Or adjust the pickup height? Or adjust the amp? Those gorgeous tones have gone forever!

  • @paisteplayer1040
    @paisteplayer1040 5 месяцев назад

    Pickups make enormous difference's
    What you are listening to with the gibson is its pickups.. I put the same Burstbuckers 2 in a PRS sc245 bridge and played it next to my LP that has burst buckers and the sound was about spot on.
    I put the 57/08's back in the sc245 because I like them more

  • @francescobarile4174
    @francescobarile4174 4 года назад

    Do you think the Mules are not suitable for stuff like The Darkness, Guns'n'Roses? Do I need higher output pickups? Thanks, great video.

  • @kodymartens8201
    @kodymartens8201 Год назад +2

    I have to agree with you. I think the BK Mule's sound better and have more personality. I'm suffering the same problem with my PRS CE24 where the 85/15's seem to be too well balanced and perfect to where they're almost boring and have no excitement. The Mule's sound fantastic. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

    • @var_guitar
      @var_guitar Год назад

      I have similar feelings about the pickups in my CE24. Did you end up getting the Mules?

  • @ffrederickskitty214
    @ffrederickskitty214 2 года назад +4

    The dragons on my PRS sound great. I have no issue with them at all.

  • @j.staley7425
    @j.staley7425 2 года назад

    I hope this question has not been asked, but what model LP are you using here? And do you prefer it over the CU22? Both guitars sound great! Thank you.

  • @kitchenguitarshred8587
    @kitchenguitarshred8587 2 года назад

    Any demos of the pickups through a valve amp by anychance ?

  • @jerrycook3273
    @jerrycook3273 День назад

    It’s a personal choice depending on your style ,vibrato,tones you prefer I have three Prs guitars 2 American and 1 se dgt I would consider these in the dgt se thanks for uploading 😊

  • @EdoLeonardi
    @EdoLeonardi 4 месяца назад

    I love the less output of Dragon II. Never changed on my Custom22

  • @michaelsablan8772
    @michaelsablan8772 3 года назад +2

    Sounds like you need to buy a Strat then if you keep trying to compare it to one!? (Super Strat w/humbuckers swapped out with those mules). Your playing is great and clean fingerings. I agree with earlier comment that PRS is just that, with its unique sound. If it was the SE being upgraded then....well. All the pickups demonstrated sounded awesome btw. You could do a gig and several in the audience (guitarists in particular) could think “that guitar sounds kinda blah, blah, blah good/bad!” Sound(tone) is the one the senses that you will get many different opinions. That PRS Model is a great guitar, the whole package, to me at least. It’s like the crowd that buys a perfect sometimes expensive pair of blue jeans only to cut it up....Or the crowd that buys a 4x4 (height )vehicles and turns them into low riders....OR even the crowd that has a perfectly made guitar and “destroys” it to make a relic, let alone paying big money for one over a pristine one, haaaahahahaha! SMH

  • @CrazedFandango
    @CrazedFandango 3 года назад +9

    I liked the Dragon pickups best. The BKPs sound fizzy and the LP just sounds so-so.

  • @ericdenton6664
    @ericdenton6664 4 года назад +1

    I preferred the BKM well over the PRS pups.

  • @elbenja16
    @elbenja16 Год назад

    Not sure about the BK, but by far in my taste, Dragon II. Has the perfect feeling.
    By the way, if you were looking that you PRS sounds like the Gibson, have you tried to modify the wiring diagram?
    Gibson sounds to me is a "modern" wiring diagram and I'm pretty sure this PRS has a treble bleed wiring diagram, but of course I could be wrong. So far sounds to me that you could change the wiring.

  • @PiotrHeczko
    @PiotrHeczko 3 года назад

    Such a great playing! I'm thinking about the same pickups changing but I wondering what spacing do you have on this Mule set? 50 or 53mm? I've measured the actually pickup spacing in my PRS CE24 and now I have something about 49mm but the string spacing is rather 51mm, so I don't know which pickup spacing is better for me.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад +2

      Cheers Piotr, If you get in contact with BareKnuckle they will advise you on what spacing for any guitar.

  • @jessestaton167
    @jessestaton167 2 года назад

    How can I order Pinnacle mule pickups in the u.s.?

  • @moestock1058
    @moestock1058 3 года назад

    Curious how long the swap actually took, repair shop I go to is backed up for months. My 2009 C24 has Dragon IIs but leaving em' in for now. Just swapped the 5 way for a 3 way and two push/pulls.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад

      Hi Moe, the guy wired it up in about 30 mins.

  • @TheBrokvika
    @TheBrokvika 4 года назад

    Which pickups in the Les Paul?

  • @vincenzosgandurra
    @vincenzosgandurra 3 года назад +8

    Everyone does whatever he wants, but the old pickups in my opinion were better.

  • @frantisca
    @frantisca 4 года назад +2

    Yep: sounds pretty good indeed. Beefier & clearer at the same time. Do you have graphite saddles mounted on the bridge ?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      Hi Cool Rene. No I don’t, does that make a difference?

    • @frantisca
      @frantisca 4 года назад

      The Studio Rats Sonically, not a lot. It rather keeps strings from breaking. Titanium saddles are interesting with dark humbuckers. It gives them more clarity and sustain.

  • @stratman9449
    @stratman9449 Месяц назад

    i've got Dragon II pus in my prs SE sc 15 years old.....and it still sounds better than all my other guitars...the neck perhaps a bit wooly...but hey...got some seymour duncan slash 2.0 bridge and a 59 neck in my prs Se 594 mccarty....sounds better now.....maybe some BK PG pus in the future...we'll see...

  • @fabieneldridge3414
    @fabieneldridge3414 8 месяцев назад

    Your guitar is absolutely beautiful ! 👍. There is no comparison the bare knuckles sound great ! I’m going to put a pair in something ! They rock ! Again your guitar is Beautiful ! That finish and color are fantastic and it rocks now , even better !

  • @akeeperofoddknowledge4956
    @akeeperofoddknowledge4956 3 года назад +2

    I get that you want your PRS to sound better, but why do you want it to sound (more?) like a Les Paul - when you HAVE a Les Paul that already sounds like a Les Paul?

  • @donoharm935
    @donoharm935 3 года назад +4

    The volumes aren’t matched it seems. The Mules have a looser bottom end to my ears, the Dragons are just a little boring. If I could combine the two, character of the Mules, tight compression of the Dragons it’d ne great.

  • @MentalMickey999
    @MentalMickey999 Год назад +1

    Well I'm sold 😀😀

  • @hendrix6133
    @hendrix6133 4 года назад

    Good demo, for me the original Pickups are fine for that PRS, but nevertheless I would like to know what you think for the single cut.I have one and I don't like the pickups that it brings from the factory, which are the Pickps treble an Bass.They are well but I know it can be improved.
    Thank you.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      Hi Sully, I’ve never tried the single cut I’m afraid. Prs pickups sell well on eBay, so if you wanted to experiment with different pickups say Seymour Duncan etc you won’t be out of pocket.

    • @hendrix6133
      @hendrix6133 4 года назад

      @@TheStudioRats OK, thank you very much for everything.

  • @GuyNAustin
    @GuyNAustin 5 месяцев назад

    First, great playing, Paul. Very impressive. Now, at first, I thought, dude, 99 out of 100 ears will never detect a difference, since the dragons sounded absolutely fine to me. I was wrong. The bare knuckles were absolutely clearer and tighter, and smoother, and this is with my damaged ears from standing next to 20 ft stacks at an early age, and playing at obnoxious volume levels without ear protection during my younger years. So, for someone with exceptional hearing, like session guys, or producers, the difference could be dramatic … like … thanks for coming, versus you’re a f’ing genius. LOL

  • @TheTmag
    @TheTmag 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video! I am in the the same position like you, i have a custom 22 with dragons 2 and i have been advised from BK about Rebel Yells as i am into hard rock, but i am completely blown away from the Mules. How do you find them after a few months of using them?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад +1

      Hi. I think you should look at the Rebel Yells. I’m happy with the mules but for hard rock I think you’d be making the right choice.

    • @francescobarile4174
      @francescobarile4174 4 года назад

      HI, which pickups did you buy? I play stuff like The Darkness, G'n'R, and I'm undecided between the Black dog, Rebel Yell, The Mule and Riff Raff pickups.

  • @RicardoDiazHimself
    @RicardoDiazHimself 3 года назад

    You should try the Thornbuckers for more of the qualities you were looking for on the Mules.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад +1

      RicardoDiazHimself I’ve got thornbckers on my suhr

    • @RicardoDiazHimself
      @RicardoDiazHimself 3 года назад

      @@TheStudioRats nice! I have both. And while I enjoy the mules on my knaggs SSC, I know they will get replaced for Thornbuckers, at least the neck, as the mule is too muddy compared to my other guitars. The bridge is really nice tho!

  • @scottjamable
    @scottjamable 4 года назад

    Hey what pups are in your LP? they sound great. I have dragon1's in my 95' PRS cu22 and 500t/496r in my 2000 LP Classic. Both bridge pickups are very hot and I am thinking about changing them. BtW Great Video!

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      I don’t know what they are I’m afraid, but the guitar is a custom shop 60s plain top.

  • @David.S.
    @David.S. 4 года назад +1

    Interesting comparison. I'm on the fence with the dragon 2's, but in a live situation..they work really well. I also changed my 5-way rotary to a 3-way toggle, much easier to use.

    • @briancowlishaw2963
      @briancowlishaw2963 2 года назад

      Hi Dave i have a custom 22 with 5 way rotary, I pondered the 3 way toggle is it an easy swap thanks .

    • @David.S.
      @David.S. 2 года назад +1

      @@briancowlishaw2963 I had to slightly enlarge the hole with a reamer. Also used a short Switchcraft 3-way toggle, instead of a long one you'd find in a les paul. Hope that helps.

  • @mattz1686
    @mattz1686 Год назад

    These are unpotted right? How are the Mules live for noise??

  • @luthiervandros
    @luthiervandros 4 года назад

    You would love the abraxas set

  • @daveg4236
    @daveg4236 3 года назад

    I've got two PRS'S that have bareknuckle Holy divers in them. Takes a great guitar and makes them soooooo much better

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад +1

      Nice one, good pickup choice.

    • @ironman1290
      @ironman1290 3 года назад +1

      Have you ever had 2 different BK’s in a PRS? Just started checking out videos and undecided about Mules, Abraxas, VHIII, Holy divers???

    • @daveg4236
      @daveg4236 3 года назад

      @@ironman1290 just the holy divers. One in a Chris Robertson SE bridge and a full set in a Bernie marsden. They sound great and different.

  • @KanonKenneth
    @KanonKenneth 3 года назад

    In The neck I would keep The Dragon 2’s because thet feel more organic to me but i The bridge i Think The Mule is The best.
    I Think i will put The mule in the bridge of my Custom 22 😊

  • @douglasvaughn9349
    @douglasvaughn9349 3 года назад +3

    Dragons sound good too me

  • @Bognerman14
    @Bognerman14 Год назад

    Sucks you can't use BK pickuos with the five way rotary. :(

  • @bennyharderguitar
    @bennyharderguitar 4 года назад +9

    I've always thought that the pickups are where PRS loses me. Bare Knuckle makes my favorite pickups.

    • @stevelegget8454
      @stevelegget8454 3 года назад

      Hey Ben, what I mean is, between E string to E string. I found it 50mm. I just ask you have the same thing I’m doing. Great playing by the way.
      Thanks.

    • @chrisking6695
      @chrisking6695 2 года назад

      The DGT are pretty good pups

  • @paulcowart3174
    @paulcowart3174 2 года назад

    What pup's in the LP ??

  • @dvcustompantera4426
    @dvcustompantera4426 3 года назад

    Hi amp please? Od? Thanks

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd Год назад +2

    I prefer the clarity of the lower output Dragons personally

  • @ironman1290
    @ironman1290 3 года назад

    Do you have a favorite BareKnuckle pickup for a PRS? Been checking out all sorts of videos. I mean to run the gamut thru pop, rock, country blues, 4th dimension?? Haha

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад

      Ive only tried the mules I’m afraid.

  • @foxyfoxtrot4233
    @foxyfoxtrot4233 4 года назад

    Agree that there’s a big improvement in the in-between setting. Bridge was marginal difference to me in crunch but much more noticeable in high gain where the BKPs sounded much better. Crunch on the neck actually seemed to lose a bit of clarity to my ears. I‘ve also switched PRS pickups (57/08s) against BKP Juggernauts and they were an instant improvement. In your case I think the guitar sounded very good with both pickup sets and the improvement wasn’t as night and day as I had expected.

  • @BradRocker
    @BradRocker 2 года назад

    What year is your PRS ?

  • @koolkat808hawaii
    @koolkat808hawaii 4 года назад

    2020 -- 85/15 TCI Pickups

  • @rtbmusic1135
    @rtbmusic1135 3 года назад +4

    Maybe a Mcarthy or DGT would have been more to your taste.

  • @bm7760
    @bm7760 4 года назад +1

    The Dragon 1 the bridge of my 96 C22 is indistinguishable from the BK Mule in the bridge of my PRS SC. Never liked the Dragon II though I have to say.

    • @AnchovyRun
      @AnchovyRun 4 года назад

      BKP Blackdog sounds indistinguishable from the stock pickups in my PRS McCarty as well

    • @ericsabbath
      @ericsabbath 4 года назад

      @@AnchovyRun the newer and cheaper Boot Camp Old Guards sound a lot like improved but less hot McCarties
      The Black Dog I had was a lot middier and tighter sounding than the McCarty Treble, but similar in output

  • @BradRocker
    @BradRocker 2 года назад

    The Dragon's were certainly tame in comparison. Mules do make it close to the Gibson.

  • @gitarowydominik
    @gitarowydominik 4 года назад +2

    This video is one of the main reasons I ordered the Mules for my Custom 22 Piezo. :)
    One thing that interests me a lot is: Are your Mules wax potted or not?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      Hi Dom. Great thanks! Not as far as I know.

    • @gitarowydominik
      @gitarowydominik 4 года назад +1

      The Studio Rats Cool! Thanks for your response. I ordered potted for me, I guess I will need to check them out, hopefully they will sound as good as your pickups. 😃

    • @Shashli4ok
      @Shashli4ok 4 года назад

      @@gitarowydominik So what is your opinion on Mules? Do you like them in your PRS?

  • @gaz0463
    @gaz0463 4 года назад +7

    Why would you buy a PRS and then spend £250 to make it sound like a LP?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад +3

      Because I like the sound of my Les Paul but be able to use a trem.

  • @geezberry8889
    @geezberry8889 Год назад

    the Dragon II's are the most underwhelming pickups PRS makes. I swapped mine for 57/08's which are like the Mules (non-potted)

  • @johnshepherd7340
    @johnshepherd7340 5 месяцев назад

    The Mule injected PRS sounds better than the LP. I'd take that sound all day, every day. Oddly, everyone is saying the Mule is louder than the Dragon. Wiring/pots may have been changed to the Bareknuckle kit (did you, Paul?). Tonally, there is a huge difference that volume holds no factor in. It's not that they're brighter, tbut that the honkin' mids of the Dragons aren't nearly as present in the Mules - thank God. Consider - If louder is what you notice, but don't hear the frequency curve being markedly different ( and better imho) in the Mule set, and claim volume's what makes people think they're better - I'd venture you're in that group persuaded past hearing tone by volume. My new Tremonti 10 Top is getting this treatment as fast as I can get em here. I know I'm late to this party, but thanks for this, Paul. .02

  • @paisteplayer1040
    @paisteplayer1040 5 месяцев назад

    From this era PRS I far prefer the HFS and vinatge bass to the dragon II's

  • @1119kg
    @1119kg Год назад

    Do you still have the Bare Knuckle pickups in your custom 22?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  Год назад

      I don’t have the guitar anymore I’m afraid.

  • @JohnPerryMusic
    @JohnPerryMusic 4 года назад

    Loved the tones from both pickups. Before = snarly PRS tone, After = Thicker LP tone.

  • @ashleyjackson8538
    @ashleyjackson8538 Год назад

    It seems like prs pickups aren’t always lining up with the their level of guitar build .

  • @MrMariodraiby1
    @MrMariodraiby1 3 года назад

    U should try Tremonti treble pups 👌🏻

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад

      Yeah I’ve heard great things about them although I’m told they are quite hot.

  • @Pete_Harris
    @Pete_Harris 4 года назад +11

    Sounds far better with the Mules. More clarity, girth, character, dynamics, and a fatter more pleasing tone.

  • @pskemster
    @pskemster 4 года назад

    The bare knuckle pickups sound great they had better. But the dragon ll sound great also. So if you want to part with them I’d love to put a set in my project build!
    Sounding great by the way!

  • @michaeltrust5121
    @michaeltrust5121 5 месяцев назад

    the dragon II's sound better much more balanced better string balance sweeter sustain. Don't get me wrong I have a few sets of Bare-Knuckle Pickups, The Polymath set and the VH II set, both are crush. But if you're buying a custom 22 keep the dragon II's in them, they really do sound the best for that guitar. The Mules are to Chonky and sit nice in a Plexi, I see your plugged into a dual rectumfryer at least pony up for a Soldano SLO 100, it's what the cheap Recto was based off of but nowhere near the fidelity and muscle. Sorry man the Recto is Flubber. Dragon II's in a PRS custom 22!

  • @sorenahlback
    @sorenahlback 3 года назад

    No pickups can sound best for everything. IMO the PRS were better on the clean tones while Knuckles had more punch when distorted.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад

      I agree with everything you said.

    • @sorenahlback
      @sorenahlback 3 года назад

      @@TheStudioRats and I love your channel. Had so much help how to get good tones out of my Katana 50II. Combo of Gain, Tube Screamer and Compressor on the clean channel get the tone I like.

  • @AllCarsUnited
    @AllCarsUnited 2 года назад +1

    Complains that the PRS literally sounds like wellll a PRS and then says he wants it to sound like his Le Paul 😂 uhmmm . Enjoy them both for wait they are. The drags are a very distinctive prs sound. I own two lespauls and one PRS and certainly don't eajt the ors to sound like the Les Paul. Two different vibes

  • @MikMech
    @MikMech 4 года назад

    Much Better. Sounds like a Brawler now.
    I've never liked PRS Guitars, but that sounds Pretty Good..

    • @Dad-Gad
      @Dad-Gad 4 года назад

      Have you ever owned one ? Or are you just making a huge generalisation ? I've got a PRS a Strat and a LP Copy . So I disagree .

  • @ReinhartSchneider
    @ReinhartSchneider 4 года назад +4

    Honest opinion, the Dragons sounded great and you didn't need to change. Bare Knuckle Mules are no slouch but the question is: was the swap justified? Probably not. It's a lot of money for a lateral move imo.

    • @ReinhartSchneider
      @ReinhartSchneider 4 года назад +2

      But having said that Mules are a standout choice from an already impressive pickup winder, so enjoy your guitar and enjoy your new pickups. Just that the Dragon II pickups were not just fine but actually really good.

    • @abellimages
      @abellimages 4 года назад +1

      @@ReinhartSchneider That is absoutely a subjective opinion and one that may be different amont every player. This guy can play, and if he feels it was worth it, that is anbout all that matters. The difference is clear even on a compressed RUclips video. In the room, and when he is playing, I am sure it is a huge difference. A lot of how great a pickup is stands in how well it responds to your playing.

    • @BobK5
      @BobK5 4 года назад

      Paul Abell if you’ve just spent £250 on new pickups you’re going to want to like them but are they better, doubtful.

  • @PopGunEnt
    @PopGunEnt 3 года назад +4

    yeah i just turned the volume down when you switched to BN and the difference is nearly impossibly negligible. for anyone else watching do the same and then judge. :)

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  3 года назад +1

      Hi Dustin try listening on proper speakers or headphones.

    • @PopGunEnt
      @PopGunEnt 3 года назад

      @@TheStudioRats Would you consider Barefoot Footprint 01's "proper" enough?

  • @12breacher82
    @12breacher82 3 года назад +1

    The Mules are a phenomenal pickup set. Tim NAILED the hot PAF tone we all love with those. Dragons sound fine; they are a familiar tone. But I vote Mules.

  • @Deebz270
    @Deebz270 4 года назад +1

    I agree with quite a few people here...
    I think BKP, although excellent pickups are way overbloated in price. (In fact most aftermarket pickups are over priced, for what they intrinsically contain...).
    .
    Now I'm in the opposite corner - I've got a lovely S2 CU22 Semi-hollow, that does sound a tad 'hollow' electrically, essentially because these US made guitars are actually fitted with Asian pickups (#7s) (although it does ring beautifully unplugged...). And I'm looking to upgrade my pickups to Dragon IIs. Why? Because it's a PRS and I want to keep it PRS in every way. If it were a good 'Chibson' or Epiphone, or Tokai etc... Then I'd be looking to upgrade with BKP or SD, Tesla, Lace or whatever....
    .
    By-the-by - I had a PRS SE CU24 recently and I have to say, that the pickups on that guitar were simply 'bitchin' ! So to give PRS their dues, at least they've sourced a good Asian manufacturer of pickups for their Asian built guitars. But on a US made instrument... I like to have US pups.
    .
    I think this was a waste of money, for what amounts to a slight increase in over-driven ability.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    That *is* a particularly lovely CU22 though, I have to admit.

  • @BillyRiffinDaTube
    @BillyRiffinDaTube Год назад

    BKP sound sloppier to me and a bit harsh. Dragon ii are a very hated pickup as they have a very flat EQ. I always liked them though. Sometimes it’s nice finding your tune with a pickup that has a flat curve to it. I find that with the Dragons you have to adjust your amp EQ differently to make them shine. Never played the mules but on this vid it sounded like you lost output though the louder mix is trying to hide that. There is def less gain. More of a vintage tone with the mules where the dragons have a better modern sound. The mules sound like they are pushing the guitar into a territory it shouldn’t even sound like, a les Paul.

  • @oscarmorales-cn3hz
    @oscarmorales-cn3hz 2 года назад

    You just want the classic sound that we all know, I have my PRS not to sound like a classic but different in a good way.

  • @mike_aiton
    @mike_aiton 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting video. I agree the BNs sound more articulate and certainly much more full. The pick ups that I liked (in a PRS) were in the Paul's Guitar here ruclips.net/video/CW4Odw3eAa8/видео.html . I have watched many pickup change videos, and often I think things sound - well for want of a better word (even as an audio engineer), just different. But here the difference to my ears was clearly night and day better. Your LP certainly growls and sounds ferocious and with the BNs the custom 22 is much closer and also makes nice Fender-esque tones too - but is it both but neither? or am I being a philosophical twat :-)

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  4 года назад

      Completely agree Mike, it is much closer to the les Paul. I always felt I had to fight the guitar to get more tone out of it, I had to hit the strings harder. Now it’s much more dynamic with picking. Personally I couldn’t be happier with the change.