Why do guitar players change pickups? | PRS 85/15 bridge vs Tremonti Treble humbucker
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Today I try to answer the question, why guitar players still change pickups. There's no miracle when it comes to pickups, especially passive humbuckers, but most guitar players prefer certain humbuckers over others.
As an example I showcase the PRS 85/15 bridge humbucker and the PRS Mark Tremonti Treble humbucker.
00:00 Intro
02:11 Clean
03:13 Crunch
04:43 Hi Gain
06:42 pickups in a mix
10:50 Outro
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Your song writing is pretty good! The Tremonti cut through the mix way better than the 85/15.
very nice channel and guitar playing bro keep up the good work !
Woww the sound and tone is absolutely huge!!! Love it I'm getting the Tremonti Bridge for my guitar also. 😊🤘🎸🔥
Through You tube I cannot tell the difference myself. I have the whale blue version of that guitar. Love it.
Great Video!!! and many thanks for comparison....
Just acquired a new Cu24 with the 85/15's, I don't dislike nor particularly drool over them......today, I did a comparison between one of my Tremonti Sig's, a Cu24 with the Metal pups and the 85/15's.....all 3 run through a modded Friedman SmallBox 50 with a 2x12 Port City cab loaded with v30's.
The neck pup 85/15 is actually damn good for that split coil strat tone (think Stevie Ray Vaughn type tone). The bridge pup just didn't have that lower end I prefer, as compared to my Tremonti's and Metal pups (also weaker low end than Tremonti's).
I felt that adding a dash of EQ to make up for low end missing in the 85/15's affected the Mid and Treble zone making it too fuzzy bright/harsher/raspy/muddy (all in one). Tremont's have a more mid-level treble that is tighter, more controllable, and better low end. Then again, it's ceramics vs. alnicos as well.
Thank you so much for your comment. I still like 85 bridge pickup for rock, but for heavy stuff it doesn’t have the beef and aggressiveness you need. The tremonti has all you need and is more focused on the low mids and bass, but still is a very versatile pickup. I love it for PRS guitars.
Great video. I swapped a Tremonti bridge into my CE24. Pleased with the outcome. Unexpectedly I really like the combo of 85/15 neck + Tremonti bridge for cleans. In humbucker and single coil mode.
Yes, I think the combo sounds really good. And there's actually no volume drop between the Tremonti bridge and 85/15 neck humbucker.
85/15 bass + Tremonti treble is versatile combination
Well that’s good news as I’m looking at doing just this
Great video! The bridge pickup is great for rock no doubt, but for heavier stuff, yeah I just can’t seem to get the “snarl” or the “bite” that I want on 85/15 TCI. The difference shown in your video really helped to understand.
Great playing by the way!
Thank you very much! ☺️
Both great, but the PRS 58/15 LT pickups are still the king for me.
totally different PU, 58/15LT are basically PAF replicas
Great video!
Love both however the Tremonti has that articulate high mid focus that really cuts through to my ears. Either way you can't go wrong in MHO.
For me, the Tremonti Bridge sounds darker and fatter for clean to mediegain to high gain. Sounds better to me across the board. If I need less output or an EQ adjustment I can adjust the volume knob and or tone knob. Thanks for this video.
The Tremonti's have a more better punch to them when chugging. See comparison of the chugs between 7:10 to 9:14.
Yes, that's why I installed it. And it harmonizes very well the 85/15 in the neck position.
I like chorus from dead memories you threw in there.
Never noticed that I played a Slipknot song here. 😅
Hello nice comparison . Did you feel that with the 85/15 you loose attack ? Did you feel they lack power for metal ?
Yes, not very suitable for metal. It’s not the attack that is missing. It is the density.
@@JulianDaniels thank you... So what pickups you finally put on your prs m8?
I have 59/09s but might switch the bridge to a tremonti
So, how much of a difference did it make in feel and sound in the room?(not talking about in a mix).
You really feel the aggressiveness of the tremonti in the room. More pressure, more punch and a thicker tone. Played clean it stays beefy with prominent bass response and rolled back highs, but in a good way. Reminds me of the Bare Knuckle Painkiller. The 85/15 feels airy and more cautious. It is the pickup that behaves. Both make a lot of fun to play with.
Tremonti bridge pickup is so far and full. I wonder if it is ceramic or some custom magnet as PRS mentions.
I want to either get a Tremonti for my McCarty or order a Wolfetone Timbre Wolf or Monkey Bucker. Hopefully it is as fat as the Tremonti.
I think output plays a big part as well. My 17k Alnico V based Suhr Aldrich bridge humbucker seems just as fat as the Tremonti or SC250, but maybe a bit sweeter.
I like my prs 245s pick ups way more than the 85/15s
I couldn’t tell a difference worthy enough to justify a swap….
Interesting. I have a CE with 85/15 p/u and I love them. I also have the PRS \m/ p/u in another PRS which are my favorite. I had the Tremonti p/u’s in a Tremonti and I replaced them with S/D Invaders, and sold the Tremonti p/u’s. The Tremonti p/u’s were nice, but I felt I more than covered this sound with the set up between the PRS 85/15, and \m/ Metal pickups. The Invaders gave my LP body Tremonti a slightly darker tone which made this guitar sound even heavier. It subjective as we know. My vote for my favorite pickups are the PRS Metal, 85/15, and S/D Invaders. Tremonti pickups are awesome, but just didn’t fit my top three guitars.
hey bro, how is the metal compared to 85/15. I want to be close to the 85/15s but no one is selling them in Canada lol. Can you please tell me if their mids are similar?
love tremonti pick ups
I’m sure that different people can hear things differently but there is so much going on in an actual mix and so many adjustments that can be made, different pedals, different amps, different speakers but I’m going to just give my response- I’m listening thru RUclips and I’m sure I’m not getting the same sound you’re getting in person, but there really isn’t 15 cents worth of difference in 99% of all pickups that are similar wound, hum buckers and single coil. There are so many places in the signal chain and then the mix that I just think we’re fooling ourselves. And I know what you think you hear is important because it’s your music but I just think that 99.99999% of the people that hear a recorded or especially a live venue couldn’t tell what pickup your using or if your using a Chinese made guitar or a $20,000 custom shop guitar. Hendricks, SRV, Clapton, all the greats, they could grab an axe in a pawnshop and make it sing. But there again if you were blindfolded you really wouldn’t be able to pick them out from just another good player copying their style. Just play.
Nice and thoughtful comment. I think in a live situation as you said you won’t hear any difference at all. In a studio recording I think differently. Pickups CAN make a difference. Maybe you watched my video where I played the same song with the same amp settings with 3 different guitars. The difference there is, I wouldn’t say huge, but big enough to think about and to make a good decision for the right choice. But for live I admit that pickups are the last thing to worry about.
85/15 is a bit more suited for modern distortion tones... u get more note separation clarity with chords... notes are beautifully dispersed 👍🏻
I would say the exact opposite. I guess everyone has unique ears and taste.
@ShaneStoneOfficial I think Tremonti pickups pretty old compared to 85/15 TCI pickups... check out Filip Ficho Boshevski channel. He did a comparison of the HFS/VB vs 85/15
The guitar lives in the mid range so to me the more balanced your pick ups are the better. The
Tremonti sound more tremble which there suppose to be but to me they sound like
Duncan’s But I do like them.
The tremonti actually has less treble and focuses more on the low-mids and bass frequencies.
@@JulianDaniels Tremonti is the darkest pickup PRS makes.
Awesome! What's the Tuning and string gauge you're using?
Thank you so much! It's a dropped C tuning and the strings I use is the Ernie Ball Beefy Slinky set.
@@JulianDaniels thanks man! I thought it was... Your tone sounds fantastic 👏
I’m considering getting rid of my 85/15’s cause I feel like they get crushed when I plug in my Les Paul’s for heavy rhythm tones.
Yes, that's what I felt too. Great for rock, but not designed for heavy tones.
@@JulianDaniels I was determined to get to the bottom of it and I went back on my garage for several hours twisting knobs and I believe I sort of solved the issue. So my custom 24 needed a drastic EQ change compared to the Gibson. I was using a Splawn Quickrod for reference. The LP sounds great with everything around noon. Anyways, to my surprise the PRS needed to drastically have the bass knob turned down, the mids moderately pushed and the the highs slightly higher and a bit more gain as well. After this, the guitar sounded much more aggressive and mid focused. Not quite LP, but much closer. Its almost as if the PRS actually has more bass and is more mid scooped than the LPs and the LPs have a ton of low mids which tricks the ears into thinking it has a lot more low end.
@@brandonbryson3317 I have two Custom 24s with the 85/15 pickups and other PRS guitars with a mix of Suhr Aldrich pickups and the BKP Holy Diver. The 85/15s are relatively low output at around 8-9K Ohms I believe and have a lot of mids/bass. That's why you have to wildly adjust your EQ. I notice it as well going between those guitars and the ones with Aldrich/Holy Diver pickups which are much higher output and have some scooped mids, but increased clarity. The original 58/15 pickups I had in my other guitars are the same way. They have a lot of bass and mids. Most PRS stock pickups are like that because they're going after a vintage tone. The exception is the PRS Metal pickups which have the best clarity of any PRS pickups and are high output, but versatile. The Tremonti's have clarity too, but they're usually geared towards specific downtuned metal and probably aren't as versatile as the Metal pickups.
I also have a Les Paul as well with a Classic 57+ and that's also low output at around 8-9K Ohms as well. Not sure what pickup you have in yours, but I plan to change mine out for BKP Rebel Yells.
@@JJDon5150 it's easier dialing a Tremonti back for versatility vs. dialing in the 85/15's....I like the Metal's can't stand the Floyd, but prefer the Tremonti's cuz they're a tad fatter yet very controllable.
Which tuning did you use?
It’s in dropped C.
Tremonti is so versatile.
Who win?
Tremonti for me. The 85/15 sound fuzzy because the mids are scooped. Tremonti likes a lot of mids and that's exactly my taste as well. I like a guitar sound that's mid heavy.
Nice. Thx bro. @@chrisking6695
Tremonti for the W 🎸
Tremonti was fuller more punchy and just better for metal.
I don't care what anyone says, low output pickups for heavy distorted tones suck. I feel like they're too stringy, not saturated enough, and lack grunt and oomph in the low end.
Yes, that’s my man! You nailed my thoughts!
TREMONTI MUCH BETTER I NEVER LIKED THE 85/15S to me FOR METAL AND ROCK they are hi pitched and shallow/scratchy/irritating sounding as opposed to full and powerful sounding. FOR MY TASTE Duncans are superior in every way for metal and darker full fat sounds even at the high range...what im interested in is the difference between the TRMONTI and the TRMONTI ''6''
Tremonti’s PRS looks just like a Les Paul. If Paul wants to pay me and make me custom guitars, I would be more than happy to help him out.
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@@JulianDaniels Every guitarist Paul pays and send them custom guitars sounds worse Mayer sounded better on a Strat. Santana had the greatest tone on an SG (watch Woodstock). Neil Schon sounded better on a Les Paul. I admit PRS has the prettiest wood. How come Strats don’t have that beautiful wood?
Buy tremonti pickups? Or just vuy a tremonti 😅 ?
Yes, that was the question for me as bought this guitar. I still prefer the double cutaways over the singles.
@@JulianDanielsI was on the metal tone hunt.
And rather than spend ona new tremonti, ive decided to try a Horizon Precision Drive with my existing guitars.
Should go well with my nice SE's and cheaper C tuned LTD..
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