It's strange to me that 1/72 is ultra cheap, and 1/36 (green army man scale) is ultra cheap, but basically no one will make something in the middle (28-32mm) ultra cheap. Even at middling quality a bag of 40 28mm knights or sci-fi soldiers for $10-$15 would be a boon to wargamers/hobbyists. Even if just as cheap bodies to stick all your extra bits from real kits on.
A video on Large Doorways, caves and other large entrances on the board, would be interesting for using larger creatures. Also 3D bridges and tunnel networks. Comparing other sculpts to the standard heroquest ones.
Another great video! Thank you as always both Ash and Shar! Also, thank you for showing off the scale of each miniature. Hopefully it can clear some things up and give ideas for people homebrew. Personally, I would get some 20mm bases to help bring up their height or add 3 onto one 25mm+ as a fun horde or pack mobs. The troll and fairies you can just add a 25mm base and they would be perfect for 2021 HeroQuest.
With the Heroquest furniture and the small mini’s you could make a adventure of war / quest in a giants castle . “ The giant terrorizing the land has died now all forces try to be the first to find his fabled treasure but beware there are still giant dangers and challenges to overcome”
I watched the $10 Dark Alliance video and then I went and was surfing and found a link that showed all of their miniature lines. I thought the orc and worg sets would pass as goblins and worgs quite nicely. Sadly the few links selling the minis were much more expensive than $10. The lowest was $17. I'll wait and find a better deal if I decide to get them for bulking up my small worg calvary minis.
I like the extra scale info. I find that I prefer the heroic scale for the humanoid models. I ended up scooping up one of those unicorn sets from 5 below and keep a look out at dollar stores. Though it only has a few figures, Key to the Kingdom was a favorite board game I had as a kid. Something about how you could use the equipment cards to overcome challenges and the wide variety of creatures and test parameters was really cool. Safari Ltd. have some nice mostly action figure scale creatures, but can be a source for huge monsters. The smaller tubes may be a lot closer though. I run into them at some of the hobby and art stores like Michaels.
Great video Ash! This and the previous video were extremely useful. I would have loved to go full blown and pick up all of the sets offered by Dark Alliance, but I'm very particular. Lol. They have to be 28mm or 28mm Heroic scale to work in my campaigns / games. Nevertheless, I love this review and have decided to pick up a few of the larger 1/72 scale minis from Dark Alliance that may play into the campaigns and games that I run. Very excited about the possibilities. I do hope that Dark Alliance does take notice and rescales a few of these sets for 28mm or 28mm Heroic. If so, I'd own every set. "Take my money!" 😂
Would be nice if they did, but as the world situation is these days there are little chance it will happen this year :( wish the best for dark alliance. Maybe they sell stls or find some one to print the minis in other scales?
Great video again. You did a great job showing the scale and detail of the d a minis. Looking forward see more of this. What other ranges are there in 1/72 / 20mm?
I would love a miniature hq table that also has a spacecrusade board game on it. It could feature as a zargon/mentor foresight element of the far future.
I feel like the castle ravenloft minis work the best for HeroQuest. 2 undead dragons an undead golem and a dwarf cleric not to mention ghouls gargoyles skeletons zombies a giant Ogre Owlbear
17:30 you could just say that due to mumification and other processes they shrank, kinda like how certain tribes on earth shrink heads and collect them
I've been working in 15mm scale (I just like the neatness of close to 1:100), & 1:72 figures are great for bigger, more imposing monsters & characters. Even the humans could be particularly tall Goliath-like individuals.
@@AshQuest Ral Partha, Magister Militum, Alternative Armies are my go-to choices. Splintered Light is great too. For plastic, Joan of Arc: Time of Legends has a lot of great minis.
I made (earlier) some calculations how different 1:72 is from 1:54 (=28mm*/32mm**). Maybe some one could done that math easier way, but I took measurement from 1:54 turned it back to real world size (x*54=y) and then turned it to 1:72 scale (y:72) and noticed that it is exactly 25% smaller. Meaning, that if real world me would stand in T-pose next to 25% smaller me, my hands would barely be top of head of shorter me. And at least for me, this made it much easier to try to understand size difference between models (I do not have Heroic size minies, so it scales bit differently from this video). I also noticed that direcly from Ukraine buying Dark Alliance minies, it may cost something between 6-7 euros (plus transport, and taxes, since EU has now taxes for importing things - except for Chinese people, who are clever enough to find loopholes and deliver things without needing pay those taxes (I don't know how, but it seems like they may have German(?) company in Netherlands(?), and that seems effect on all that. But for everyone else, who do not know how to use loopholes, there these import taxes. No matter is it from UK, Ukraine, USA, or wherever...)). However I do not feel comfortable to name the place, since I do not know at all (and because I do not exactly remember name of it at moment), but I found it by adding in search engine "Dark Alliance Miniatures" and one of result was something like "blog text" which linked four different shop which sells these minies, telling prices of each of them. And the cheapest was the one what I am talking about. But the shop was in Kiev. For me, when I tried to look from Amazon Dark Alliance minies, they were always 20€ per packet (with free delivery). What is not exactly cheap(er than other things). But then again, I never bought anything from Amazon, so maybe it is just lack of my skills to find them...but I would suspect that delivery to this country is just too expensive for most of companies? (I use AliExpress, or in case of miniatures, often German company Fantasywelt, or just buy directly from producer (for example GreenStuffWorld is Spanish company, inside of EU). eBay and Amazon seems to be so often so expensive because of those import taxes, etc..).
For the Dark Alliance, these are available on Amazon and eBay. I got mine from UkrScale, based in Ukraine and was able to receive a substantial discount and combined shipping.
Yeah for these and certain other applications there is such a thing like flush cutters that are much more heavy duty and curved wich would help with this and they are toe nail clippers but not like your normal ones as said they are nearly identical to flush cutters i got them and i almost alway use the over flush cutters now
Don't hate me, don't hate me, but I am wondering why you didn't use the hot water trick before cutting the Dark Alliance minis from their very thick sprues? Wouldn't that have made them more malleable to twist at an angle easier to cut and make the cutting itself easier?
I wouldn't mind seeing how these compare to GW's Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game miniatures, as those are a bit smaller than normal Warhammer guys (of course, maybe that's only because they aren't heroic scale).
You might be in luck looking for some 1/72 furniture in the WWII model range. There's tons of boxes, sand bags and even piles of baggage that's pretty useable. I swapped over to 1/72 for my TTRPGs as the minis are easier to batch paint and storage is less of a hassle. Being much cheaper was also a big draw.
Nice. Have done much in this scale, all my wwii are 15mm/1:100. But thinking about doing some fantasy in 20mm/1:72 for a travel dragon Rampant set, any cool manufacturers about there?
@@andersand6576 Hey sorry for the late reply. As far as 1/72 fantasy, unfortunately a lot of my stuff came second hand. I loaded up on the old Age of Mythology board game which had tons of monsters and varied infantry in 1/72. For most other stuff, since I'm doing Star Wars, I ended up reusing a lot of the old Micro Machines stuff and even made a few recasts of my own to safely cut up, part swap and sculpt over for custom characters.
@@Suiberis Cool. Ill try to find a few copies of age of mythology (: Thinking about having some 3d printed. Found it works better with scaling up, then down and some nice producers of small scale fantasy out there. Like forest dragon or wakes emporium.
Each box is actually less than 10 - these start at 8.50 and came out to closer to 6.50 USD per box. The shipping is combined so obviously the more you get, the better a deal you get. The exact total for this was a few pennies less than $60 USD.
I should add this is if you get them from the seller Ukrscale, there are resellers that upcharge quite a bit that may be more local like Scott's in the US; I get mine from Ukrscale and simply wait a bit longer for shipping
1/72nd is the best scale to collect. very economical and so many historical minis to use in many fantasy, modern, or scifi games.
It's strange to me that 1/72 is ultra cheap, and 1/36 (green army man scale) is ultra cheap, but basically no one will make something in the middle (28-32mm) ultra cheap. Even at middling quality a bag of 40 28mm knights or sci-fi soldiers for $10-$15 would be a boon to wargamers/hobbyists. Even if just as cheap bodies to stick all your extra bits from real kits on.
A video on Large Doorways, caves and other large entrances on the board, would be interesting for using larger creatures. Also 3D bridges and tunnel networks. Comparing other sculpts to the standard heroquest ones.
"Don't Dead Enter Inside" lol
Another great video, Ash.
I really love how you are so open to new ideas and are always thinking creatively.
Keep it up man! Just found your channel today and love your content!
Another great video! Thank you as always both Ash and Shar!
Also, thank you for showing off the scale of each miniature. Hopefully it can clear some things up and give ideas for people homebrew.
Personally, I would get some 20mm bases to help bring up their height or add 3 onto one 25mm+ as a fun horde or pack mobs.
The troll and fairies you can just add a 25mm base and they would be perfect for 2021 HeroQuest.
With the Heroquest furniture and the small mini’s you could make a adventure of war / quest in a giants castle . “ The giant terrorizing the land has died now all forces try to be the first to find his fabled treasure but beware there are still giant dangers and challenges to overcome”
I watched the $10 Dark Alliance video and then I went and was surfing and found a link that showed all of their miniature lines. I thought the orc and worg sets would pass as goblins and worgs quite nicely. Sadly the few links selling the minis were much more expensive than $10. The lowest was $17. I'll wait and find a better deal if I decide to get them for bulking up my small worg calvary minis.
Wow, I just checked the last video again. 38k atm😮 What happened Ash?!?!
Congratulations 😊
I like the extra scale info. I find that I prefer the heroic scale for the humanoid models. I ended up scooping up one of those unicorn sets from 5 below and keep a look out at dollar stores. Though it only has a few figures, Key to the Kingdom was a favorite board game I had as a kid. Something about how you could use the equipment cards to overcome challenges and the wide variety of creatures and test parameters was really cool. Safari Ltd. have some nice mostly action figure scale creatures, but can be a source for huge monsters. The smaller tubes may be a lot closer though. I run into them at some of the hobby and art stores like Michaels.
Great video Ash! This and the previous video were extremely useful. I would have loved to go full blown and pick up all of the sets offered by Dark Alliance, but I'm very particular. Lol. They have to be 28mm or 28mm Heroic scale to work in my campaigns / games.
Nevertheless, I love this review and have decided to pick up a few of the larger 1/72 scale minis from Dark Alliance that may play into the campaigns and games that I run. Very excited about the possibilities.
I do hope that Dark Alliance does take notice and rescales a few of these sets for 28mm or 28mm Heroic. If so, I'd own every set. "Take my money!" 😂
Would be nice if they did, but as the world situation is these days there are little chance it will happen this year
:( wish the best for dark alliance.
Maybe they sell stls or find some one to print the minis in other scales?
@@andersand6576 Agreed. Wouldn't mind picking up the STLs, scaling them and printing them. That would be an enticing option as well. 😃
Great video again. You did a great job showing the scale and detail of the d a minis.
Looking forward see more of this.
What other ranges are there in 1/72 / 20mm?
Thanks! I'm on the hunt to find more minis and games that support this scale (not counting mini agnostic games)!
@@AshQuest searched a bit and found Caesar miniatures that do 20mm fantasy, have not seen any of them in real life though
I would love a miniature hq table that also has a spacecrusade board game on it. It could feature as a zargon/mentor foresight element of the far future.
Sounds cool. Maybe magnetize it for gaming while traveling. Bill makes stuff did a cool one in a backgammon case.
We don’t really worry about scale we use the rule of cool for minis
Some of those models look like scans of the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game minis
Where is the pink dragon from?
HQ First Light pic was uploaded 10 minutes ago on Facebook 👍
I see! We've been talking about it in the Discord!
I feel like the castle ravenloft minis work the best for HeroQuest. 2 undead dragons an undead golem and a dwarf cleric not to mention ghouls gargoyles skeletons zombies a giant Ogre Owlbear
17:30 you could just say that due to mumification and other processes they shrank, kinda like how certain tribes on earth shrink heads and collect them
Do think halfling mummis are pretty scary, but of course i have played a lot of dark sun (:
Those are some lil baby flush cutters, gotta get some beefy boys to get through those CHONKY sprues
Try to get the Fire Demon sets. Only 2 I know of.
I've been working in 15mm scale (I just like the neatness of close to 1:100), & 1:72 figures are great for bigger, more imposing monsters & characters. Even the humans could be particularly tall Goliath-like individuals.
Nice! Have any recommendations for anyone wanting to check out 1:100 scale?
@@AshQuest Ral Partha, Magister Militum, Alternative Armies are my go-to choices. Splintered Light is great too. For plastic, Joan of Arc: Time of Legends has a lot of great minis.
I made (earlier) some calculations how different 1:72 is from 1:54 (=28mm*/32mm**). Maybe some one could done that math easier way, but I took measurement from 1:54 turned it back to real world size (x*54=y) and then turned it to 1:72 scale (y:72) and noticed that it is exactly 25% smaller. Meaning, that if real world me would stand in T-pose next to 25% smaller me, my hands would barely be top of head of shorter me. And at least for me, this made it much easier to try to understand size difference between models (I do not have Heroic size minies, so it scales bit differently from this video).
I also noticed that direcly from Ukraine buying Dark Alliance minies, it may cost something between 6-7 euros (plus transport, and taxes, since EU has now taxes for importing things - except for Chinese people, who are clever enough to find loopholes and deliver things without needing pay those taxes (I don't know how, but it seems like they may have German(?) company in Netherlands(?), and that seems effect on all that. But for everyone else, who do not know how to use loopholes, there these import taxes. No matter is it from UK, Ukraine, USA, or wherever...)). However I do not feel comfortable to name the place, since I do not know at all (and because I do not exactly remember name of it at moment), but I found it by adding in search engine "Dark Alliance Miniatures" and one of result was something like "blog text" which linked four different shop which sells these minies, telling prices of each of them. And the cheapest was the one what I am talking about. But the shop was in Kiev.
For me, when I tried to look from Amazon Dark Alliance minies, they were always 20€ per packet (with free delivery). What is not exactly cheap(er than other things). But then again, I never bought anything from Amazon, so maybe it is just lack of my skills to find them...but I would suspect that delivery to this country is just too expensive for most of companies? (I use AliExpress, or in case of miniatures, often German company Fantasywelt, or just buy directly from producer (for example GreenStuffWorld is Spanish company, inside of EU). eBay and Amazon seems to be so often so expensive because of those import taxes, etc..).
If the bases are too wonky, you could buy 1-inch wood chips (ebay, 10 bucks for 100 pieces) and glue them on.
Depending on where you are in the worlds pennies are an option too. Right size and the metal is nice and heavy.
You also have from Caesar 1/72 miniatures (Fantasy - Adventurers)
May I ask where you get the miniatures?
For the Dark Alliance, these are available on Amazon and eBay. I got mine from UkrScale, based in Ukraine and was able to receive a substantial discount and combined shipping.
Yeah for these and certain other applications there is such a thing like flush cutters that are much more heavy duty and curved wich would help with this and they are toe nail clippers but not like your normal ones as said they are nearly identical to flush cutters i got them and i almost alway use the over flush cutters now
Why not get these minis. With single ones costing $5 a pop and war bands of like 6 costing $45 at game stores these are a steal
Don't hate me, don't hate me, but I am wondering why you didn't use the hot water trick before cutting the Dark Alliance minis from their very thick sprues? Wouldn't that have made them more malleable to twist at an angle easier to cut and make the cutting itself easier?
I never thought of using the trick before unsprueing. Something to keep in mind for part 2...
I wouldn't mind seeing how these compare to GW's Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game miniatures, as those are a bit smaller than normal Warhammer guys (of course, maybe that's only because they aren't heroic scale).
Good idea. Seeing the orks next to a classic hq goblin would be nice too.
You might be in luck looking for some 1/72 furniture in the WWII model range. There's tons of boxes, sand bags and even piles of baggage that's pretty useable.
I swapped over to 1/72 for my TTRPGs as the minis are easier to batch paint and storage is less of a hassle. Being much cheaper was also a big draw.
Nice. Have done much in this scale, all my wwii are 15mm/1:100. But thinking about doing some fantasy in 20mm/1:72 for a travel dragon Rampant set, any cool manufacturers about there?
@@andersand6576 Hey sorry for the late reply. As far as 1/72 fantasy, unfortunately a lot of my stuff came second hand. I loaded up on the old Age of Mythology board game which had tons of monsters and varied infantry in 1/72.
For most other stuff, since I'm doing Star Wars, I ended up reusing a lot of the old Micro Machines stuff and even made a few recasts of my own to safely cut up, part swap and sculpt over for custom characters.
@@Suiberis Cool. Ill try to find a few copies of age of mythology (:
Thinking about having some 3d printed. Found it works better with scaling up, then down and some nice producers of small scale fantasy out there. Like forest dragon or wakes emporium.
ik decided to MAKE a rule set for a skirmish game using this model line
Dark alliance are great for ttrpg minis
Would be nice to see them 1/87 so you could better use HO scale models.
I'm tempted to buy some of these minis, but I'm just worried about painting them and how much detail there is on such a smaller scale.
I'm going to try my hand.
It's going to be laughably bad, probably!
@@AshQuest Heck yeah! I'd love to see these painted up if you do a video!
could those grey orks count as TOW goblins?? hahah I might think about a small goblin army
Have an online friend who made a gobbo warband from these. Ended up cheeper then a box of gee-dubs minis. (:
@@andersand6576 do you happen to know if minotaurs from this brand could work as beatmen? Gors
These are paintable right?
Scrub them with a toothbrush in water and washing-up liquid first and they'll paint up fine.
HeroQuest needs more dragons.
These minis from Red box/dark/light alliance don't have a lot of coverage so your video filled a void.
They’re not $10. They range from $17-$33.
Each box is actually less than 10 - these start at 8.50 and came out to closer to 6.50 USD per box. The shipping is combined so obviously the more you get, the better a deal you get. The exact total for this was a few pennies less than $60 USD.
I should add this is if you get them from the seller Ukrscale, there are resellers that upcharge quite a bit that may be more local like Scott's in the US; I get mine from Ukrscale and simply wait a bit longer for shipping
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